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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 21/04/2021 05:06:26 »

Yes, but you don't "consume" it like you consume oxygen. It's a waste product, not a vital gas. Besides, following your logic, shouldn't the face mask increase carbon dioxide consumption instead of decreasing it?

i believe both O2 and CO2 are essential particles that are being inhaled during normal respiration.

Correct me if im wrong.

smart

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 20/04/2021 08:56:34 »

Well, you don't consume carbon dioxide, so that says a lot about that "fact check" of yours...

Thats incorrect. Even without rebreathing through a surgical mask a small percentage of CO2 will get inhaled.

If your question is whether people will willingly stop wearing masks once the pandemic is over, the answer is obviously yes. I take my mask off whenever I get home.

Thank you for your input.

I recall to had many interesting talks with you back in the days.

I noticed as well that many people are dreaming that this pandemic scam will end someday.

Just for your info i don't wear mask outside except when mandatory in local stores. I believe this type of stress-dependent conditioning do promotes pathological social avoidance as excessive (hypoxic) stress does stimulate inhibitory dopamine activity in the ventral striatum.

Likewise, striatal dopamine signaling can also prime the amygdala and hippocampus towards instrumental learning of avoidance.

In other words, the hypoxia-mediated overstimulation of dopaminergic cells in the striatum may potentially act as partial/selective dopamine agonists thereby promoting antipsychotic activity.

Unfortunately, that novel mechanisms is poorly understood and most people don't understand science enough to notice any subliminal changes in their behavior since the beginning of the "pandemic".

smart

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 19/04/2021 23:40:48 »

3. Myth: Wearing a mask will increase the amount of carbon dioxide I breathe and will make me sick.

Fact check: Breathing through a face respirator or surgical mask will decrease oxygen and carbon dioxide consumption.

Note that this is out of scope from the original thread.

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 19/04/2021 14:07:27 »

For people interested in stress-induced avoidance conditioning a separate thread about this topic is available here: <<<link removed>>>

[Spoiler:]

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 19/04/2021 13:57:16 »

This post contains False News and a bogus study.
Please read https://www.factcheck.org/2021/04/scicheck-stories-falsely-cite-stanford-study-to-misinform-on-face-masks/ before deciding whether to read the post

WARNING - THIS POST IS FALSE NEWS - CLICK AND BE BRAINWASHED AT YOUR OWN RISK

Spoiler: show

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From "Facemasks in the COVID-19 era: A health hypothesis": https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

Physiological effects of wearing facemasks

Wearing facemask mechanically restricts breathing by increasing the resistance of air movement during both inhalation and exhalation process [12], [13]. Although, intermittent (several times a week) and repetitive (10–15 breaths for 2–4 sets) increase in respiration resistance may be adaptive for strengthening respiratory muscles [33], [34], prolonged and continues effect of wearing facemask is maladaptive and could be detrimental for health [11], [12], [13]. In normal conditions at the sea level, air contains 20.93% O2 and 0.03% CO2, providing partial pressures of 100 mmHg and 40 mmHg for these gases in the arterial blood, respectively. These gas concentrations significantly altered when breathing occurs through facemask. A trapped air remaining between the mouth, nose and the facemask is rebreathed repeatedly in and out of the body, containing low O2 and high CO2 concentrations, causing hypoxemia and hypercapnia [35], [36], [11], [12], [13]. Severe hypoxemia may also provoke cardiopulmonary and neurological complications and is considered an important clinical sign in cardiopulmonary medicine [37], [38], [39], [40], [41], [42]. Low oxygen content in the arterial blood can cause myocardial ischemia, serious arrhythmias, right or left ventricular dysfunction, dizziness, hypotension, syncope and pulmonary hypertension [43]. Chronic low-grade hypoxemia and hypercapnia as result of using facemask can cause exacerbation of existing cardiopulmonary, metabolic, vascular and neurological conditions [37], [38], [39], [40], [41], [42].

Notice im not posting a random low-level video link to provide real evidences. 

smart

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 14/04/2021 23:42:17 »

that simply blocking your nose and mouth do affect breathing.

Except that the kind of masks encouraged during the pandemic are not "blocking" your nose and mouth. They are porous. They allow gases in and out.

Yes they do allow O2 and CO2 exchanges except they also alter the respiratory rate accordingly. OT.

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 14/04/2021 23:30:08 »

hypobaric hypoxia

What is hypobaric about it?
Or are you just stitching "sciencey sounding words" together?

Chronic/intermittent mask wearing does alter systemic oxygen and CO2 i

The evidence makes it clear that your claim is false.

Anyway, my research found reliable evidences

Cite it , or shut it.

You and Kryptid are deceitfully short-minded, perhaps because it goes inline with the policies on this forum. I have no motivations in trying to discuss science with people not able to understand that 2+2=4 or that simply blocking your nose and mouth do affect breathing. There is basic science manuals for this online and elsewhere.

Moreover its very unfortunate that this forum is being condemned to such evil deceptive thread hijackings by people that try to convince me that 2+2=5.

smart

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 14/04/2021 22:03:45 »

That is not the subject of this thread.

Masks producing hypoxia is a necessary component of your idea, is it not? If masks don't produce hypoxia, then your idea is wrong.

In contrast, there is sufficient peer-reviewed studies on the effects of mask wearing on oxygen and carbon dioxide consumption.

Care to post them?

There was no need to hijack this post with a low-level brainwashing video....

How are those videos brain washing?

Anyway, my research found reliable evidences

Then please post that evidence.

Likewise, hypoxic stress may drives dopaminergic signaling thereby enhancing instrumental conditioning of avoidance behavior: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1074742711000931

Which is irrelevant if masks don't cause hypoxia.

ps: please stop the low-level ad hominem thread hijacking 

I never used ad hominem.

Did you ever attempted to hold your breath while underwater? Chronic/intermittent mask wearing does alter systemic oxygen and CO2 input in such ways that your brain cannot notice any differences. This is known as hypobaric hypoxia and its well-known scientific phenomenon. 

Anyway, if you insist on discussing about chronic hypoxia here i should probably mute you off, since thread hijacking is definitely not my cup of tea.. . 

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 14/04/2021 21:48:51 »

In contrast, chronic/intermittent mask wearing do obviously alter normoxic oxygenation levels

If it's "obvious", then you should be able to supply evidence showing that it is so.

That is not the subject of this thread. I was hoping to discuss about the relevant association between chronic mask wearing and avoidance learning. In contrast, there is sufficient peer-reviewed studies on the effects of mask wearing on oxygen and carbon dioxide consumption. There was no need to hijack this post with a low-level brainwashing video....

Predator avoidance conditioning is a real problem associated to the etiology of dysfunctional surgical mask use and very few people are aware of the psychological effects associated to long-term mask wearing.

Anyway, my research found reliable evidences that stress-dependent cortisol overexpression may mediates avoidance response conditioning in people wearing a face mask on long-term basis by stimulating inhibitory dopamine signaling in the striatum, thereby promoting avoidance behavior, a lesser-known type of instrumental/safety conditioning.

Likewise, hypoxic stress may drives dopaminergic signaling thereby enhancing instrumental conditioning of avoidance behavior: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1074742711000931

smart

ps: please stop the low-level ad hominem thread hijacking 

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 12/04/2021 08:47:49 »

A great amount of documentation is fully available on the effects of intermittent hypoxic stress

And because masks do not produce hypoxia, that research is irrelevant, isn't it?


If you think this

many healthcare workers do suffers from mild/intermittent hypoxic stress

 is true then you need to show evidence.

Because, in the real world, the facts show that they do not.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nhs-doctor-begs-people-wear-22366171
https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Wellness/doctor-runs-22-miles-face-mask-prove-impair/story?id=72353323

This wishful thinking is not appropriate scientific discussion as its not relevant to discuss hypoxia-related topics in this thread.

In contrast, chronic/intermittent mask wearing do obviously alter normoxic oxygenation levels (ie: SpO2/PAO2) but this is out of scope and COVID19-related misinformation is not helpful here.

Please help yourself and go read some online books.

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 12/04/2021 08:12:18 »

I wear a mask for hours while doing physical labor at work. I don't experience hypoxic stress from it, so I don't know why you are bringing that up.

I guess you never considered the fact that many healthcare workers do suffers from mild/intermittent hypoxic stress associated with chronic surgical mask wearing at work... These acute physiological effects are well known among scientists working on human metabolism and hypoxia. 

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 12/04/2021 07:47:45 »

Compulsory mask-wearing is to reduce the spread of COViD. There's nothing subliminal involved.

A great amount of documentation is fully available on the effects of intermittent hypoxic stress on neuronal activity, arousal and human metabolism. Safety conditioning (Active avoidance) is just another paradigm associated to the psychological outcomes of chronic surgical mask wearing.

I believe a subliminal (or passive) outcome associated with chronic mask wearing is in the avoidance paradigm as there is nothing in COVID19 theory that may suggest a direct threat cue, thereby this compulsory behavior could be the result of instrumental (fear) conditioning.


Anyway, your typical avoidance of the initial question is largely insufficient to surprise me.

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New Theories / Re: What is safety conditioning?

« on: 12/04/2021 07:02:07 »

I think you are joking...

lol... 

Thanks for sharing!

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New Theories / What is safety conditioning?

« on: 11/04/2021 23:33:24 »

Hi all,

Compulsory mask wearing is a subliminal method to stimulate stress-mediated dopamine transmission in the striatum thereby enhancing post-synaptic D2 receptors connectivity from the central amygdala and nucleus accumbens. This extracellular dopamine activity in the striatum may prime neuronal (chemo)signaling associated to active avoidance conditioning, a Pavlovian type of instrumental learning.

Consequently, is dopamine-mediated avoidance conditioning a reversible fear-extinction learning paradigm?

What do you think?

smart

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Just Chat! / How to create a lipid peroxidation assay?

« on: 11/04/2021 22:56:21 »

Hi all,

I am trying to design an experimental assay to verify whether it is possible to oxidize glucagon synthesis in vitro using H2O2 reagent and plain water solution. How may i confirm glucagon elimination when using H2O2 as a oxidative reagent in a water solution?

What do you think?


smart

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Just Chat! / My Twitter experience

« on: 05/07/2019 10:51:55 »

delete

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New Theories / Re: What is Project STREET WISE?

« on: 05/07/2019 10:13:56 »

This thread is outdated ! 

For the latest info on Project STREET WISE the official website
is : https://www.projectstreetwise.org
and the public wiki is here : https://www.isotoperesearch.ca/wiki/index.php?title=User:Tkadm30/Notebook/Psychoenergetics


Please note also we no longer use Twitter because we dont want to be associated to Twitter and Co
for obvious reasons .

tk

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why is neurodiversity a controversial subject?

« on: 15/03/2019 21:44:48 »

Please define what you think does define our behaviour, apart from genetics and environment.

i think human behavior is mostly influenced from our cognitive thinking skills. The human genome has nothing to do with how someone can learn (and train) to become better at thinking in order to self-improve his/her own neurosecurity.

Labeling someone with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder because of a few DNA variations is soft-eugenics agaisnt human populations with unspecified neurological variations and/or brain dynamics in the (peer-reviewed) human genome.

Thank you.

tk

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why is neurodiversity a controversial subject?

« on: 15/03/2019 21:27:54 »

We need people to accept that human behavior is determined by our genetic code and is independent from our brain....
...Nice thread hijack attempt...

You obviously don't believe that brains are constructed from a genetic code and influenced by our environment? And that brains don't affect behavior?

Please define what you think does define our behaviour, apart from genetics and environment.

lol.... okay but lets not confuse brain (neurology, etc) and consciousness (theology, etc).

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Physiology & Medicine / Re: Why is neurodiversity a controversial subject?

« on: 15/03/2019 21:06:03 »

schizophrenia or ADHD is not curable...  We need people to accept that human behavior is determined by our genetic code and is independent from our brain.

It is estimated that schizophrenia is 80% linked to genetics.
However, it is not the only factor, and factors like infection during pregnancy and allergies may also play a part.

These environmental and genetic factors do affect the gut, immune system and brain of sufferers. Some of the symptoms may be treatable after symptoms appear.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia#Environment

Nice thread hijack attempt @evan_au but please try to stay on topic next time.

Thank you.

tk