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How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?

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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #20 on: 08/05/2016 02:01:59 »
Quote from: jeffreyH on 08/05/2016 01:57:29
So in your opinion are they right to couple the Poisson equation to the equation of hydrostatic equilibrium? Does this really help with the problem of asymmetrical potential? What about the axisymmetric potential? Are they handlling that in the right way? What about their proposed sigma values? Do they match with observational data? I await your analysis with enthusiasm.

The equations of general relativity which apply to curved spacetime aslo apply to the state of displacement of the strongly interacting dark matter because the geometrical representation of gravity as curved spacetime physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the dark matter matter.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #21 on: 08/05/2016 02:25:22 »
In other words you don't understand the document that you yourself posted in support of your argument. So you don't even know if it does support your argument or not. Not a very tenable position.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #22 on: 08/05/2016 02:42:29 »
I understand curved spacetime is a pseudo force. I understand the geometrical representation of gravity of curved spacetime physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of of the strongly interacting dark matter which fills 'empty' space.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #23 on: 08/05/2016 03:02:04 »
OK so we have a central galactic black hole in our galaxy. Can we state with certainty that 243dc5ba3cf70888338b2826ce0b50df.gif where S = entropy? If so then do you agree that 78c0b6f7af17648d399800e2be7d7c49.gif then relates to the radius of the horizon? How then does dark matter and or dark energy relate to entropy and Hawking radiation via entanglement?
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #24 on: 08/05/2016 03:40:30 »
The question asks if Hawking radiation is key to a theory of everything. It is if it is related to the energy associated with supermassive black holes which cause the gas to be pushed far beyond the extent of their host galaxies. This is evidence of the strongly interacting dark matter the supermassive black holes continuously emit. This is evidence dark matter fills 'empty' space and strongly interacts with matter. From this we can relate general relativity and quantum mechanics. It is the strongly interacting dark matter which ripples when galaxy clusters collide and is what waves in terms of wave-particle duality.

Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's wave of wave-particle duality, both are waves in the strongly interacting dark matter which fills 'empty' space.

The strongly interacting dark matter displaced by matter relates general relativity and quantum mechanics.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #25 on: 08/05/2016 05:50:57 »
Quote from: stacyjones on 07/05/2016 11:37:12
Quote from: Colin2B on 07/05/2016 09:02:32
Stacy, Jeff is right, in this section you should make it clear, in new theories you can discuss what you like.

The question is asking about a theory of everything. A theory of everything is a new theory.
But it would be helpful to the op to make it clear, yes
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #26 on: 08/05/2016 10:56:25 »
Quote from: Colin2B on 08/05/2016 05:50:57
But it would be helpful to the op to make it clear, yes

I would think the OP realizes by stating "figuring out" a theory of everything that we are discussing a new theory.

In order to start figuring out a theory of everything we need to understand 'empty' space has mass which is displaced by matter. We can then relate general relativity and quantum mechanics as both Einstein's gravitational wave and de Broglie's wave-particle duality wave are waves in the mass that fills 'empty' space.

The first step in figuring out a theory of everything is to relate general relativity and quantum mechanics. The first step in relating general relativity and quantum mechanics is to understand 'empty' space has mass which is displaced by matter.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #27 on: 08/05/2016 12:37:37 »
Not a peep about the mathematics. Mathematics is central to physics. In fact you could say mathematics IS physics. Your lack of use of such a crucial tool highlights your ignorance of the subject you are making such bold pronouncements on. That is deceitful.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #28 on: 08/05/2016 14:00:53 »
Or, you could work toward answering the question which is to figure out a theory of everything.

The first step in figuring out a theory of everything is to relate general relativity and quantum mechanics. The way to relate general relativity and quantum mechanics is to understand 'empty' space has mass which is displaced by matter and that both Einstein's gravitational wave and de Broglie's wave of wave-particle duality are both waves in it.

Your avoidance of answering the question is deceitful.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #29 on: 08/05/2016 14:19:14 »
Quote from: stacyjones on 06/05/2016 18:05:21
Quote from: Dr Amrutha on 06/05/2016 17:57:32
Does Hawking's really hold the key to the lock of all unexplained theories of the universe?
 [:)]

No, it doesn't. Unless it is related to the dark matter continuously emitted by supermassive black holes which cause particles of matter, the gas, to be pushed far beyond the extent of their host galaxies.

'Supermassive Black Holes Transport Matter into Cosmic Voids'
http://www.sci-news.com/astronomy/supermassive-black-holes-matter-cosmic-voids-03658.html

Here you simply dismissed the question in order to divert the thread onto your pet theory.

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“Some of the matter falling towards the holes is converted into energy. This energy is delivered to the surrounding gas, and leads to large outflows of matter, which stretch for hundreds of thousands of light years from the black holes, reaching far beyond the extent of their host galaxies,” the astronomers explained.

Below you introduce a speculative and unfounded "Universal black hole". This will in no way help the poster get a clear impression of how mainstream physics sees this. It is again an attempt at self promotion.

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The energy referred to above at the scale of our Universe is dark energy. A Universal black hole is emitting dark matter which flows through our visible Universe, pushing the galaxy clusters, causing them to accelerate away from us.

Dark matter fills 'empty' space. Dark matter strongly interacts with matter. Dark matter is displaced by matter.

What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double slit experiment, the strongly interacting dark matter which fills 'empty' space.

Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's wave of wave-particle duality, both are waves in the strongly interacting dark matter.

Dark matter displaced by matter relates general relativity and quantum mechanics.

The key to moving physics forward is to understand 'empty' space has mass which is displaced by matter.

The last part I expect you keep in a file on your PC for easy cut N paste it is repeated so often. This is again misleading as it fails to address the original question.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #30 on: 08/05/2016 14:38:17 »
The original question is:

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Does Hawking's really hold the key to the lock of all unexplained theories of the universe?

I answered it does if it has anything to do with the energy associated with supermassive black holes which cause the gas to be pushed far beyond the extent of their host galaxies. That's because supermassive black holes are emitting dark matter which pushes the gas.

The key to a theory of everything is to first relate general relativity and quantum mechanics. The key to relating general relativity and quantum mechanics is to understand dark matter fills 'empty' space, strongly interacts with matter, is displaced by matter and it also displaces the matter.

This allows for the relationship between general relativity and quantum mechanics to be understood as both Einstein's gravitational wave and de Broglie's wave of wave-particle duality are waves in it.

So, you are either participating in helping determine the theory of everything or you are not. And until you are willing to understand 'empty' space has mass which is displaced by matter then you are not as it is the mass which fills 'empty' space which is displaced by matter which relates general relativity and quantum mechanics.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #31 on: 08/05/2016 15:00:19 »
Besides Einstein's gravitational wave and de Broglie's wave of wave-particle duality both being waves in the mass which fills 'empty' space, the state of displacement of the mass which fills 'empty' space is gravity. So, to have any chance at a theory of everything is to understand 'empty' space has mass which is displaced by matter.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #32 on: 08/05/2016 15:03:31 »
Quote from: stacyjones on 08/05/2016 14:38:17
The original question is:

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Does Hawking's really hold the key to the lock of all unexplained theories of the universe?

I answered it does if it has anything to do with the energy associated with supermassive black holes which cause the gas to be pushed far beyond the extent of their host galaxies. That's because supermassive black holes are emitting dark matter which pushes the gas.

Then prove it. You posted a link which you refused to comment on directly. You posted this in support of your claims so you should at least have some understanding of the supporting evidence otherwise how can you say it indeed does support your assertions?

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The key to a theory of everything is to first relate general relativity and quantum mechanics. The key to relating general relativity and quantum mechanics is to understand dark matter fills 'empty' space, strongly interacts with matter, is displaced by matter and it also displaces the matter.

Then the only honest thing to do is show the mathematics that supports this speculation. It will likely fall under the remit of quantum field theory so let us all see your equations.

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This allows for the relationship between general relativity and quantum mechanics to be understood as both Einstein's gravitational wave and de Broglie's wave of wave-particle duality are waves in it.

So, you are either participating in helping determine the theory of everything or you are not. And until you are willing to understand 'empty' space has mass which is displaced by matter then you are not as it is the mass which fills 'empty' space which is displaced by matter which relates general relativity and quantum mechanics.

Since you know the solution show it to us. Surely you have the formula to back up such grandiose claims?
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #33 on: 08/05/2016 15:05:30 »
Quote from: stacyjones on 08/05/2016 15:00:19
Besides Einstein's gravitational wave and de Broglie's wave of wave-particle duality both being waves in the mass which fills 'empty' space, the state of displacement of the mass which fills 'empty' space is gravity. So, to have any chance at a theory of everything is to understand 'empty' space has mass which is displaced by matter.

Poppycock and drivel.
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« Reply #34 on: 08/05/2016 15:19:30 »
Or, you could understand the first step in figuring out a theory of everything is to understand 'empty' space has mass which is displaced by matter.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #35 on: 08/05/2016 18:24:48 »
OK put a figure on the energy per cubic volume of this mass. Then we can compare this to the vacuum energy. What type of particles comprise this extra mass? Since you mention mass it has to be particulate matter. Can you also supply any kinetic energy terms that would apply. Once you have done this you can then rid yourself of the appearance of a charlatan.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #36 on: 08/05/2016 19:26:18 »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aether_theories#Quantum_vacuum

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Robert B. Laughlin, Nobel Laureate in Physics, endowed chair in physics, Stanford University, had this to say about ether in contemporary theoretical physics:
The modern concept of the vacuum of space, confirmed every day by experiment, is a relativistic ether. But we do not call it this because it is taboo.
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Re: How does Hawking's radiation helps in figuring out "the theory of everything"?
« Reply #37 on: 08/05/2016 19:35:59 »
So again you can't provide an answer and simply post some link. You are likely worried that your lack of mathematics would open you to ridicule if you attempted to formulate an answer. You are in a hole so my best advice to you is to stop digging.
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« Reply #38 on: 08/05/2016 19:59:18 »
Your inability to even consider the possibility that a Nobel Laureate is correct means any attempt at any sort of an actual conversation is pointless.
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« Reply #39 on: 08/05/2016 21:28:09 »
I haven't seen Robert for several years, but if you'd care to tell me his measurements of the viscosity, density and elastic modulus of the aether, I'm prepared to believe them. If not, I must continue to assume that you haven't understood what he is talking about.
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