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My point is that without a universal terminal goal, there is no universal moral standard, and we can't say if a moral rule is universally good or bad.
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 26/05/2021 17:35:53My point is that without a universal terminal goal, there is no universal moral standard, and we can't say if a moral rule is universally good or bad. And there being no possibility of a UTG, there is no UMS.
How do you proof that there is no possibility of universal terminal goal?
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 27/05/2021 10:19:56How do you proof that there is no possibility of universal terminal goal?Because plants and animals are inherently on opposite sides, and life requires both.
Do you think that all animals are in the same side?Do you think that bees and flowering plants are on opposite sides?What should plants do if they want to survive the event when the earth merge with the sun?
Some animals eat plants, some animals eat animals. A few plants eat animals.
No amount of hypothetical evolution can escape the fact that most plants absorb CO2 and exhale oxygen, and all animals do the opposite. Without some dynamic balance between the two, all living things would die. Therefore the fundamental enmity between plants and animals is essential for the survival of both..
I rather feel that if you stopped a cow eating grass, it wouldn't be a cow. It wouldn't inhale oxygen, so the grass would gradually poison itself, and it wouldn't exhale CO2, so trees couldn't grow. You require a wholly different ecology in which no living thing eliminates waste. Not sure this is thermodynamically achievable.
We should be aware that our descendants/successors may have completely different shapes or forms than us, they may not even be similar to one another.
You are looking for a degree of symbiosis that has only been observed in lichens. No problem from my point of view, but you may be disappointed to realise that by your definition the stuff growing on your roof has a higher level of consciousness than yourself!
Apparently. They colonised you, regulated their population to a sustainable level, and determined almost everything about your mood and behavior: when they are hungry or thirsty, they tell you to eat and drink, and if they don't like your choice of food, they encourage you to get rid of it. You can vote Labour as often as you like, but you can't get rid of a bad government.
But now we can decide which microbiome should live inside us, which one should die,
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 02/06/2021 23:42:57But now we can decide which microbiome should live inside us, which one should die, So there is an inevitable conflict of interests, and only human vanity decides which should win. No sign of a universal goal!