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Is CoV2 finding new ways to kill?

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Is CoV2 finding new ways to kill?
« on: 05/08/2022 19:52:22 »
See from 4 minutes in to 5 minutes in
deaths within 28 days of a positive covid test are high, higher than for instance during the Delta wave. But deaths with covid on he death certificate are up but not nearly so much - below Delta levels (in the UK).

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus excess mortality is also higher, now, than during the BA.2 wave but "covid" deaths lower for BA.5 compared to BA.2. Excess mortality looked like it was lagging behind covid deaths during BA.2, but I may be reading more than is justifiable into the graphs in this last instance.
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Re: Is CoV2 finding new ways to kill?
« Reply #1 on: 06/10/2022 13:19:36 »
I'm unable to Understand your Query.

Is Covid finding new ways to kill?

Are you referring or pointing out that post vaccination deaths are increasing?
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Re: Is CoV2 finding new ways to kill?
« Reply #2 on: 06/10/2022 15:13:53 »
No - I didn't mention vaccinations.  What I'm saying is - the fact that deaths within 28 days of a positive test are rising relative to deaths with covid on the death certificate might indicate that covid is increasingly contributing to deaths from other causes eg due to accumulative heart scar tissue from successive infections, and asking if anyone has seen any evidence or studies about this or alternative explanations for the relative change in death rates.
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Re: Is CoV2 finding new ways to kill?
« Reply #3 on: 06/10/2022 23:38:23 »
As you say, COVID causes damage to heart cells directly, and also to small blood vessels providing oxygen to the heart. This will increase deaths attributed to heart disease.

COVID causes damage to small blood vessels providing oxygen to the brain, and also to nerve-supporting cells in the brain. This will reduce spare mental capacity, and increase deaths attributed to dementia.

COVID causes damage to kidneys, which will increase deaths attributed to kidney failure and diabetes (diabetes contributes to kidney failure).

Overall, excess deaths are up in Australia, and part of this is the long-term impact of long COVID.
- Anti-vaxxers with whom I communicate* attribute the excess deaths to the impact of vaccination, but the statistics I see suggest that risks from each COVID infection are about 2 orders of magnitude greater than the risks from each COVID vaccination.

*Anti-vaxxers are very common on various Social Media platforms; not so much on the TNS discussion board...
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Re: Is CoV2 finding new ways to kill?
« Reply #4 on: 07/10/2022 02:22:29 »
Thanks for Clarifying & Setting it Fair.
Sorry i couldn't grasp it before.

Well, i did watch much of the 1 hour video, and i did see that the Graphs the Gentleman was presenting in his explanations seemed to be Official Government Medical Statistics.

It wasn't an independent observer or third party, so it seems Genuine Information.

And Evan has already mentioned a detailed explanation, & not left room to add anything further, hence i won't be commenting.

P.S. - In the beginning of Covid, i used to term/brand Anti-Vaxxers at par with Terrorists, who were trying to spread a biological weapon.
Now i have a much lenient approach, as they have the Right to Suicide, but i still feel they should stay at home n do it.
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