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You're absolutely right. To talk about time as a singularity as a "moment" can only work talking about the parameters within which that singularity exists, like in between time-before and time-after, both of which would represent a "relativity" cradling the time-now singularity....somehow.

Quote from: opportunity on 05/02/2018 01:36:04You're absolutely right. To talk about time as a singularity as a "moment" can only work talking about the parameters within which that singularity exists, like in between time-before and time-after, both of which would represent a "relativity" cradling the time-now singularity....somehow..You lost me after the first three words. (Two and five-sevenths of a word, to be precise--this being a forum for scientists.)

Quote from: Thebox on 04/02/2018 13:54:59Quote from: scherado on 04/02/2018 13:27:34What is the duration of a moment in 'Time'? (Given: the answer will be the decimal-portion of 0.______..., where the unit is Second.) In other words, some fraction of a second.absolute time t=Δ→0It is a continuous constantStrangely the Box is pretty close.The question you are trying to answer is similar to asking where am i on a distance line. A point on a line is defined as having zero width. If it has any value eg 0.000....1 then it is no longer a point but a range.A singularity is a mathematical term that refers to a point at which a mathematical object is undefined, either because it is infinite or degenerate. A simple example is the function 1/x. This function has a singularity at x = 0 because the fraction 1/0 is undefined. Individual ‘moments’ of distance or time are points having 0 width. If you wish to redefine those points as being a range that’s up to you.

Quote from: scherado on 04/02/2018 13:27:34What is the duration of a moment in 'Time'? (Given: the answer will be the decimal-portion of 0.______..., where the unit is Second.) In other words, some fraction of a second.absolute time t=Δ→0It is a continuous constant

What is the duration of a moment in 'Time'? (Given: the answer will be the decimal-portion of 0.______..., where the unit is Second.) In other words, some fraction of a second.

Quote from: Colin2B on 05/02/2018 09:33:12Quote from: Thebox on 04/02/2018 13:54:59Quote from: scherado on 04/02/2018 13:27:34What is the duration of a moment in 'Time'? (Given: the answer will be the decimal-portion of 0.______..., where the unit is Second.) In other words, some fraction of a second.absolute time t=Δ→0It is a continuous constantStrangely the Box is pretty close.The question you are trying to answer is similar to asking where am i on a distance line. A point on a line is defined as having zero width. If it has any value eg 0.000....1 then it is no longer a point but a range.A singularity is a mathematical term that refers to a point at which a mathematical object is undefined, either because it is infinite or degenerate. A simple example is the function 1/x. This function has a singularity at x = 0 because the fraction 1/0 is undefined. Individual ‘moments’ of distance or time are points having 0 width. If you wish to redefine those points as being a range that’s up to you.You give them an answer and they ignore it lol. 0+0=1x is the smallest measurement. 0 being a 0 point, by specifying +0 we are specifying there is 2 , 0 points . So 0 point plus a 0 point is a really really small dimension of 1x and describes a continuous change. So I suppose we can say Δt=0+0 which is also about the time is takes for the second photon of a stream to arrive at object or your eyes.

Quote from: Thebox on 06/02/2018 13:04:35Quote from: Colin2B on 05/02/2018 09:33:12Quote from: Thebox on 04/02/2018 13:54:59Quote from: scherado on 04/02/2018 13:27:34What is the duration of a moment in 'Time'? (Given: the answer will be the decimal-portion of 0.______..., where the unit is Second.) In other words, some fraction of a second.absolute time t=Δ→0It is a continuous constantStrangely the Box is pretty close.The question you are trying to answer is similar to asking where am i on a distance line. A point on a line is defined as having zero width. If it has any value eg 0.000....1 then it is no longer a point but a range.A singularity is a mathematical term that refers to a point at which a mathematical object is undefined, either because it is infinite or degenerate. A simple example is the function 1/x. This function has a singularity at x = 0 because the fraction 1/0 is undefined. Individual ‘moments’ of distance or time are points having 0 width. If you wish to redefine those points as being a range that’s up to you.You give them an answer and they ignore it lol. 0+0=1x is the smallest measurement. 0 being a 0 point, by specifying +0 we are specifying there is 2 , 0 points . So 0 point plus a 0 point is a really really small dimension of 1x and describes a continuous change. So I suppose we can say Δt=0+0 which is also about the time is takes for the second photon of a stream to arrive at object or your eyes....it collapses.3-d space....it makes sense.It could-be 50-d space but without the algorithms of Pythagoras it is 3-d.Stuff seems to happen as we observe between different points in space.The big question is how each space reference of "event" is warranted as an event......"enter the idea of time, a type of cause and effect of each reference of space and its own peculiarity effecting the other".Is it because of a fundamental feature of the idea of cause and effect, an arrow of time for each spatial reference?

You give them an answer and they ignore it lol.

I'm ok with answers days after. These are big subjects and take thought. I look back on one of my answers and know it took days to put simply. This is a big field.

Once again apologies for not making that clearer. Just wondering therefore if you have another way of approaching the time-singularity issue? It’s a hard one given the Planck-scale space-time singularity dogma.

Quote from: Thebox on 06/02/2018 13:04:35You give them an answer and they ignore it lol. .I am NOT ignoring anything, I am in the middle of composing my reply, which is near completion. While I'm doing that, I will determine whether this forum has an "ignore" or "block" feature.

Do not like constructive criticism? You made a post after Colin's post, therefore you made a reply to opportunity ignoring the moderators content of his post.

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Quote from: Thebox on 08/02/2018 14:37:34Do not like constructive criticism? You made a post after Colin's post, therefore you made a reply to opportunity ignoring the moderators content of his post. .Do not read (comprehend) well? I've told you what I am doing with respect to replies. There is no there to your therefore, therefore, you are incorrect. I will now reveal another part of my plan:I am going to post a quote that is relevant to some content in this thread in the next few hours; it was intended for the "main" post, but I am, now, responding to gratuitous criticism. You can put that into your pipe and get good use out if it.

For every point in space as we perceive it, time is shape of change. How do we know exactly if we are moving ahead in time? Where's a start point of time and an end point to qualify that? Sounds stupid, but its not. Can we assume our ability to recall things?

How do we know exactly if we are moving ahead in time?

Quote from: opportunity on 09/02/2018 14:25:08For every point in space as we perceive it, time is shape of change. How do we know exactly if we are moving ahead in time? Where's a start point of time and an end point to qualify that? Sounds stupid, but its not. Can we assume our ability to recall things?Every point in space is timeless and without time, it is absolute and arbitrary. Time begins at a point in space when the point space gains dimensions and mass. Time begins for you from moment you are conceived, relative to you, when you are dead and decayed , time stops.

how we can set that standard for time mathematically, "actually" using an algorithm that defines time-before and time-after. We do with linear algebra, and yes that's a very simple and tested way to do that. On the quantum scale though things get a bit tricky.

Quote from: Thebox on 09/02/2018 14:34:48Quote from: opportunity on 09/02/2018 14:25:08For every point in space as we perceive it, time is shape of change. How do we know exactly if we are moving ahead in time? Where's a start point of time and an end point to qualify that? Sounds stupid, but its not. Can we assume our ability to recall things?Every point in space is timeless and without time, it is absolute and arbitrary. Time begins at a point in space when the point space gains dimensions and mass. Time begins for you from moment you are conceived, relative to you, when you are dead and decayed , time stops.I agree. I think what I was presenting was a case for how we can set that standard for time mathematically, "actually" using an algorithm that defines time-before and time-after. We do with linear algebra, and yes that's a very simple and tested way to do that. On the quantum scale though things get a bit tricky.