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(After writing this post and registering I noticed that the forum rules specify no sexual content. I was going to stop, but I did a search and found another post about it. I hope this type of discussion won't be deemed inappropriate.)Hi. I would like to relate my very personal story of an unusual condition that I have been plagued with. I am close to 40 years old now, and ever since puberty I have had serious problems in the days immediately following ejaculation. My first symptom was acute back pain in the days following, at whatever age it was, perhaps around 14. After a few years it changed to an impaired cognitive condition, which I would describe as definite mental illness, in which thinking becomes very difficult, and it feels horrible in a way that can not be described. I'm sure specific neurotransmitters are depleted or something, but the cause of such a reaction is what I have never been able to understand. This has occurred following both nocturnal emissions and sexual activity. I avoid sex to keep my mind healthy, which means staying single and avoiding sexual imagery that might lead to a sexual dream and a nocturnal emission (they occur easily for me due to pronounced PE).My biggest improvement in the condition occurred about 5 years ago when I stopped consuming milk products. I have no idea why or how this could be related, another weird piece of puzzle that I can not put together. I have searched the internet and haven't really found much to assist my understanding of this. I have found reference to reports of “post orgasmic illness syndrome” which sounds similar, but I don’t know the details of the cases involved. John
Quote from: Michael8028 on 17/08/2008 19:04:22Its good you didnt stay on Trt for long as you could of shut down your natural T production and then you would have to be on T shots for lifebut that is, if your T levels were ok to begin with.Now you're scaring me. I was on TRT for some months. I was told by a top urologist that it could take 6+ months for my natural T production to come back strong. But I think there are complicating factors since I was low in libido due to depression and inactivity. I don't think numbers tell the whole story, and certainly not over the internet without a physician.
Its good you didnt stay on Trt for long as you could of shut down your natural T production and then you would have to be on T shots for lifebut that is, if your T levels were ok to begin with.
Welcome Questforlife. Thnaks your for your very very good post. About your cortisol test :Did you made it days following after ejaculation ?I think the flu-like state can be a sign of cortisol depletion.My current diet help me to reduce symptoms.Michael talked about a very interesting supplment : cortitrol. I think we should test only one supplement at time if possible. Scientific study on cortitrol :http://www.nsekmall.com/images/datacenter/train/FORM23_1.pdf [nofollow]Anxiety, panic attacks and hormones:http://www.gjpsy.uni-goettingen.de/gjp-article-howard.pdf [nofollow]DHEA can be converted to cortisol
MICHAELI do recall now that my T-levels were tested before and after, and did PSA's during TRT. When T got too high, I quit the T. It just became a pain in the neck.This was all my idea, it wasn't classic TRT. The docs agreed to my testing T against POIS. And privately, I wanted to try a boost in libido, which I got.I'm in the same place as before, aging, low libido, ED. Too tired to try anything else at this stage. Levitra cures 75% of my POIS, but after 30+ years of POIS I lean now toward near-celibacy. I don't even want 25% of that stupid POIS!But I enjoy helping here. And I think there is something in "my Levitra story" that can help others.Many thanks, Michael!
Quote from: demografx on 15/08/2008 18:57:33Terrific! And I'm glad you said placebo effect. I was fooled by testosterone shot. It "worked" beautifully the first time, then pfffttt.Placebo effect is good, though, it shows how badly the body/mind wants to recover!I think the first shot of testosterone really does work and makes you feel so much better. But I too found that it quickly stops working, within 10 days. I think this is because it initially suppresses stress hormones such as cortisol and CRF, but the stress hormone circuit recovers back.
Terrific! And I'm glad you said placebo effect. I was fooled by testosterone shot. It "worked" beautifully the first time, then pfffttt.Placebo effect is good, though, it shows how badly the body/mind wants to recover!
If you dont mind us knowing, how old are you now?
I will ask Dr Mariano how Levitra may possibly alter the neuro/hormone pathways to help the POIS symptoms.
BTW dhea orally 50mg a day can convert to bad estrogens messing the good to bad estrogen ratio. It depends on your liver. For no side effects from taking dhea take Dhea sublingual or rub dhea cream where the Dhea is not passed through the liver. Although rubbing dhea cream wont work if one has Hypothyroidism as the cream wont be absorbed. Alot of people with adrenal problems also have Hypothyroidism as the Thyroid hormone wont be received through the body when there is a lack of Cortisol which can cause anxiety etcIm not sure if you posted your levels but what was your 4x cortisol and dhea results?If you havent done so I would ask your Doc too check Free T3, TSH for Thyroid and Estradiol, Estrones and Progesterone too if your experiencing alot of anxiety.