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General Science => General Science => Topic started by: Robcat on 22/04/2015 19:14:35
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If science is putting forward a theory then measuring, measuring, measuring to find if correct or not. So far telepathy has not been scientifically proven or not. Oliver lodge please note!
Call it metaphysics!
So, have any of you great scientists ever had any experience of telepathy? I have, so I,m a nut case or heretic !
Let's start this hare running and see where it takes us.
Rob
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If science is putting forward a theory then measuring, measuring, measuring to find if correct or not. So far telepathy has not been scientifically proven or not. Oliver lodge please note!
Call it metaphysics!
So, have any of you great scientists ever had any experience of telepathy? I have, so I,m a nut case or heretic !
Let's start this hare running and see where it takes us.
Rob
As I'm not a great scientist, I will leave this to others.
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i was going to start a thread about telepathy.
i think it is totally science explainable.
brains function by electrical pause/current, thoughts can produce em wave is for sure.
how to receive and decode/redshift/blueshift brainwaves will be the key to unlock this mystery.
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... If some people had some weird ability like this, say telepathy, it would be useful to them and they (and their progeny) would soon end up ruling the world with the rest of us extinct or an underclass.
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If science is putting forward a theory then measuring, measuring, measuring to find if correct or not. So far telepathy has not been scientifically proven or not. Oliver lodge please note!
Call it metaphysics!
So, have any of you great scientists ever had any experience of telepathy? I have, so I,m a nut case or heretic !
Let's start this hare running and see where it takes us.
Rob
What is this supposed to be about? Are you seriously looking for people who have had experience with telepathy? If so then this is the worse way to determine if such a thing exists. The sample is way to small to be statistically meaningful.
This is in the way of the paranormal. There have been real scientific work on remote viewing at Princeton University. When their PARE Laboratory was in operation they did many experiments in areas one might otherwise call the paranormal. In science they're called Engineering Anomalies.
See http://www.princeton.edu/~pear/
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I also used to think that telepathy is not real but there has been experiments which proved there is a possibility. Though we are yet to invent a lot of amazing technologies to make telepathy possible. Read more about telepathy here. I am sure you would be happy to know telepathy is indeed possible in future.
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Humans did not always have spoken language. Yet they could still communicate, through body language and facial expressions. Some forms of telepathy are connected to unconsciously using natural communication techniques, without spoken language, while assuming we can only communicate, if there is language and sound.
There is a bias in the Linguistics sciences that says, we can't think without words. Therefore, if we were to transfer information through physical/visual cues, since this is not words, it can't be a form of thought, therefore it has to be ESP. If it is not called ESP, than the original premise of thinking needing language would be flawed. Traditions remain in place by the word game.
The analogy is like two people using Morse Code to communicate. The person observing them, does not know Morse code, and so they do not hear any words. They conclude this must be ESP since we all know you need words to think and communicate.
Other times, telepathy can be connected to specialty extrapolation by the unconscious mind. As an analogy, say you were a master builder who builds large buildings. From your knowledge and previous experiences you know that tomorrow is the best day for the concrete trucks to arrive, and that their cargo of concrete needs to be a certain level of dryness. Since the concrete will be dry, the trucks need to come early before the sun heats the day. You don''t even need to call your buddy at the cement company, since he is also a professionals and has surveyed the site and knowns when the best timer to come is.
To the layman, this very detailed prophetic description of tomorrow, between people at a distance, looks like ESP. However, this is really based on previous experiences of coordinating people optimizing this professional situation.
In terms of telepathy, the unconscious has conscious data as well as orders of magnitude more of subliminal experiences. An extrapolation is then outputted to the ego, as non spoken language cues; gut feelings. This body based analogy of the Moorse code; based feelings and sensations in particular body zones, is then translated to English. This translation step is often the rate limiting step in terms of conveying accuracy.
Sometimes telepathy at a distance, can be explained with subliminal extrapolation of data gathered through previous intimate contact. One example, say you know your child gets hungry and cranky at 10am and needs a snack. They are away a camp, for the first time. You remember this and call the camp at 10AM and tell them to give your child a snack before they go hiking or he will be cranky. They marvel that you knew he was getting cranky at a distance and called at that moment. The camp director is the layman in terms of this apparent ESP.
The more and more we use spoken language to communicate, the more this looks like magic. If you start with the magic premise, you will not look in logical places.
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There's an interesting idea in philosophy that reading someone's mind is logically impossible.
Thoughts don't have size or shape or colour or flavour. The only thing about your thoughts is that you are the one having them.
If I were to read those thoughts, then you would not be the only one having them....so they wouldn't be your thoughts...so what am I reading.
And sure, we could build a big brain decoder that says "these are the neurons that only fire when a person is deciding whether Kirk or Picard is a better captain"...but is that not just super advanced body language?
It's an interesting idea I think. Or maybe I don't, you don't know. What are your thoughts?
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There's an interesting idea in philosophy that reading someone's mind is logically impossible.
Thoughts don't have size or shape or colour or flavour. The only thing about your thoughts is that you are the one having them.
If I were to read those thoughts, then you would not be the only one having them....so they wouldn't be your thoughts...so what am I reading.
And sure, we could build a big brain decoder that says "these are the neurons that only fire when a person is deciding whether Kirk or Picard is a better captain"...but is that not just super advanced body language?
It's an interesting idea I think. Or maybe I don't, you don't know. What are your thoughts?
It most certainly is possible to "read the mind" using technology. It's crude at the moment, but we can extract images from the brain: