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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: katesisco on 23/05/2011 22:12:18

Title: its crazy I admit but this is what I get from reading EELS
Post by: katesisco on 23/05/2011 22:12:18
Eels.  He says he hung onto this info for about 10 years; I see now why.  His eels are sentient.  They have intentions.  The New Zealanders have a myth that the eels came down from heaven.  I remember reading Bartram's Travels and in it he    ttp://www.troutsite.com/images/books-11.jpg  describes what he identifies as snakes entwined standing on their tails.  I just sort of filed it away because who knows how our occupation has changed the environment but now I think maybe it was eels.  They entwine to climb obstacles in their migration upriver.  We had plenty of eels in our rivers before industrial development.  They are able to forego their urge to migrate back to the sea if trapped behind a dam wall.  Not willingly.  Eels removed from a dam in New Zealand were 60 years old, with swollen heads.  They make sounds like barking, crying, tweeting, maybe roaring.  We don't see them because they are lunar phobic but can choose to expose themselves at a human demand.  I keep thinking what are they eating to survive?  Even if they almost estivate they still have to eat to grow.  Going downriver to the sea they form balls 6 foot in diameter sometimes.  Seen by living New Zealanders. But these sounds, maybe they are a projection of a sound we respond to?   
What if they are sentient?  His proof was enough for me.  They have a sense of smell that outcompetes all life forms.  This says they have been around for a while.  He did not say they were sentient; he avoided that but you cannot find his email on his wiki page. You really have to read the book.  The trout artist arrested and then mentored by the game warden?  J Prosek.
Therory:  eels survived deep in the sea, long enough to develop sentience. Since they have no limbs, the development was mental.  I recommend Harry Harrisons West of Eden with the ylaine and the enfenbrau.  At least that is what I have been thinking. What do they do with this intelligence?  Well, along the lines of the Ylaine, they would bend nature to their service.  To that end I have been considering the land-emplaced eels as their sending and receiving network.  We after all have satellites 250 miles up just so we can know more, maybe the eels do also. The larve are leaves, turning to glass and then grass eels in their migration up freshwater streams.  The petition to make them endangered failed as the court ruled they could survive in salt and never migrate. 
If it is not mother natures best success for survival, it may be the intelligence of another sapient race on planet Earth.  And maybe they have company, as I remember that sub with the nose pinched off coming home.  And it did come home remember.  So, if they are sentient, shouldn't we wait before eliminating the wild population, and replacing it with the fragile food raised for consumption in tanks?   

I know this is crazy but..............
 
Title: its crazy I admit but this is what I get from reading EELS
Post by: imatfaal on 23/05/2011 23:27:02
For a bit more crazy try this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AckvdGbk4w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AckvdGbk4w)
Title: its crazy I admit but this is what I get from reading EELS
Post by: katesisco on 26/05/2011 18:13:00
actually, I do have more crazy ideas: the 'ball' they make of them living selves during migration I propose is an adaptation to their deep sea environment toward not being an edible prey--6 foot diameter is after a big mouthful.  Or, more likely, is how an intelligence would adapt itself to something like an ocean turnover or upheaval that would bring water of the deep up on all continents.  Spheres are the most able to 'bounce' around and avoid being crushed, smashed, or in general flattened by the forces unleashed by global catastrophe.  The adaptation to surface living by a deep sea life must be the most amazing event in our long history of amazing events to paraphrase jeff Goldbloom in the Jurassic Park sequel. 
Additionally, it now appears that the Burgess Shale creatures are just exactly what the explorers of the benthic are finding.  How strange is that? 
S W Carey saw in the geologic record 'torsion' events 50 my apart.  A brief glance at the paleontological record shows that major new species such as the whale that acquired a fluke and lost its legs happened then.  Science is baffled by this mysterious 50 my extinction and subsequent repopulating.  Could it be an unknown but now evident relationship between Sol and Earth?  Something that is heating our core, which in turn is producing more warm water being conducted to the surface of the Atlantic which science has now discovered?  And the result is:  higher surface evaporation increasing the water vapor in the atmosphere.  Not from the 'usual suspect' cosmic rays from outer space but from our own sun, Sol. 
And while Fluff is lying around at the edge of our system doing what exactly?
Title: its crazy I admit but this is what I get from reading EELS
Post by: yor_on on 16/06/2011 22:44:43
eels or seals?

And you sure like your SF and fantasy :)
Not that I mind, I like it too.