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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: Yusup Hizirov on 28/03/2021 18:28:27
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The cause of earthquakes is the explosion of magmatic gases.
Community of Russian Scientists. https://vk.com/rosuch
There is a strict pattern - earthquakes most often occur in the foothills.
There are practically no earthquakes on the plains and high in the mountains.
Possibly, in the foothills under the earth's crust there are pits in which magmatic gases collect and then explode.
Magmatic gases, being under high pressure, penetrate into voids and cracks in which air is located.
The tidal force stretches and compresses the Earth twice a day, due to which pressure decreases and increases under the earth's crust. As a result, air penetrates into underground voids and cracks.
And as soon as the ratio of magmatic gases and air approaches 1-10, an explosion occurs, and waves, from the source of the earthquake, scatter in different directions.
After the explosion, a void is formed in the focus of the earthquake and cracks into which gases rush, as a result, a repeated explosion occurs.
The duration of earthquakes and the number of underground explosions depends on the amount of combustible mixture in the epicentral area. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake
1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at depths of 20-30 km.
2. In cracks, the combustible mixture explodes not all, but only that part that has reached the required proportion.
3. Along the cracks that stretch from the continents to the seas, gases move, due to which, in the seas that are at the foot of the mountains, seaquakes are formed. https://uc.xyz/S6F82?pub=link
http://www.garshin.ru/evolution/geology/geosphere/geophysics/lineaments.html
4. After explosions in the center of the earthquake, a rarefaction occurs, into which the mantle rushes, as a result - the last shock occurs.
5. During earthquakes, the epicentral area descends and becomes denser, due to which the flow of gases through micro-gaps decreases, and the earthquake focus subsides.
The intensity of earthquakes can be expressed by the following formula: A = m / h.
Where, m is the mass of the combustible mixture.
h is the depth of the combustible mixture.
Also, the intensity of earthquakes depends on the ability of the earth's crust to pass water and air. I believe it is higher in the foothills.
The hypothesis presented can be easily tested if a firecracker is blown up under the ice.
The problem with studying earthquakes is that earthquakes are not cyclical like ebbs and flows.
At the same time, earthquakes, volcanoes and geysers have a pattern, they most often occur in the foothills, but on the plains they are practically absent.
On the plains, there are no earthquakes on the fracture line of the plates. (both on land and sea). https://images.app.goo.gl/NC9u68Tyw7Gm4M5cA
Due to the rotation of the Earth, centrifugal force acts on the earth's crust, but due to the orbital motion of the Earth, the centrifugal force oscillates, for this reason, tension and movement of the earth's crust occurs. These forces, during the formation of planets, can create mountain systems, but not volcanoes and earthquakes.
The video shows how during an earthquake, the earth's crust floats on the mantle.
Magma vortex hypothesis about earthquakes.
The reason for the axial rotation of the Earth is cyclones and anticyclones, which move in the direction of the general transport of air from west to east. https://meteoinfo.ru/ugryumov/2926-ugryumov-perenos
Rotating, the earth's crust carries away the mantle, due to which dozens of magma vortices are formed, which move along the equator following the earth's crust. While rotating, magma vortices move relative to the earth's crust at variable speed, sometimes stopping, similar to cyclones and anticyclones.
Blocking anticyclones. http://meteoweb.ru/2018/phen20180730.php
Magma vortices are one of the mechanisms of the Earth's thermoregulation. The cyclonic magma gate is a magma vortex that throws the mantle upward from the center of the Earth. An anticyclonic magma vortex, on the contrary, pulls in the mantle from the upper layers of the mantle and sends it to the center of the Earth. Magma eddies, creating pressure and vacuum between the earth's crust and mantle, are one of the causes of vertical stress in the earth's crust. A similar natural phenomenon is observed in the seas and oceans, when a whirlpool rotates under the ice. When a number of factors coincide, magma vortices can transform into a tornado.
A water tornado in a matter of minutes draws in thousands of tons of water, and magma is a vortex tornado, I believe, is more massive and powerful. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_Alley
Rotating, the magma vortex under the volcanic mountain creates rarefaction. Due to this, a cork opens in the volcano's crater, and the air penetrates under the volcanic mountain.
And as soon as the ratio of magmatic gases and air reaches the desired proportion, an explosion occurs, and waves from the volcanic mountain scatter in different directions.
Today, science knows many types of explosion, perhaps in the solar system there are many more.
It is possible that the mantle and the earth's crust produce the combustible mixture.
Harbingers of seismic events:
1. Underground rumble, tremors of the earth.
a) At the epicenter, the groundwater level may decrease, and rise along the perimeter of the epicenter.
2. Temperature, composition of water and air change.
3. Above the epicentral area of future events, there may be changes in geophysical fields (magnetic, electric, gravitational, etc.).
4. Foreshocks - subsidence of the earth's crust before the main event, due to the rarefaction between the earth's crust and the mantle.
5. Aftershocks - subsidence of the earth's crust after the main event.
6. After the explosion, cracks are formed in the earth's crust, into which gases and mantle rush.
7. Aftershocks also appear after underground atomic explosions.
8. One of the causes of aftershocks can be the effect of falling plaster from the ceiling. This is when a piece of cooled mantle peels off from the inner side of the earth's crust and falls onto the core, due to which a void is formed between the Earth's crust and the falling piece of crust, into which the mantle then rushes.
Stalactites https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalactite
If the volcanic mountain is in the ocean, then before the volcanic eruption, small bubbles may appear on the surface of the water around the volcanic mountain.
The gas content above the epicentral area can be determined using a gas trap containing a litmus test.
If the activity of a volcano depends on the pressure of the mantle, then neighboring volcanoes should also erupt simultaneously.
The volcano is a pressure relief valve.
The statement that a volcanic eruption is a result of an increase in mantle pressure does not hold water, since the greater the pressure of the mantle, the more tightly the vent closes. The mouth of the volcano is a cone several kilometers long. For the vent to open, the cork of the volcano must move down, not up. And for this, a vacuum must be created under the volcanic plug, or an explosion must occur over the plug.
During a volcanic eruption, the interval between two explosions ranges from a few minutes to a year. All this time, there is a filling of the center of the volcano with a combustible mixture. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa
It is possible that an earthquake is a volcano that erupts towards the core of the Earth.
Before the eruption of the geyser, the magma vortex stops moving,due to which the vacuum between the magma gate and the Earth's crust increases. For this reason, the water sinks onto the hot mantle, and as a result, a geyser erupts.
The intensity of a geyser eruption depends on the ability of the earth's crust to pass water and air. I believe it is higher in the foothills.
It is possible that if a number of factors coincide, geysers can cause explosions and earthquakes.
Perhaps earthquakes, volcanoes, geysers, etc. are the reaction of the planets to the ingress of liquid onto the mantle. https://m.polit.ru/news/2013/04/10/ps_io_vulcanos/
At great depths, liquids and gases are under high pressure and temperature. And the result of their interaction and state of aggregation is a big mystery. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_matter
Perhaps, at depth, there is a line of equilibrium, pressure of magmatic gases and pressure of the atmosphere.
The equilibrium line is a boundary that is difficult for gases to overcome without the help of tidal forces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_front
The manifestations of volcanic earthquakes are almost indistinguishable from tectonic earthquakes. 90% of volcanoes are located in seismically active zones.
In Japan, an explosion of volcanic gases shattered a mountain 670 m high. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoa
In Indonesia, an explosion of a combustible mixture destroyed half of the volcano and caused earthquakes in several cities, and there are quite a few such facts. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geyser_animation.gif
It is estimated that millions of earthquakes are recorded on our planet every year.
The higher the axial and orbital velocity of the planets, the higher the geological activity of the planets.
It is possible that solar activity is the result of the geological activity of the Sun, and sunspots are funnels of magma-vorots.
The reason for the formation of sunspots may be the fact that the period of rotation of the Sun at the equator is about 25 days, and at the poles 38 days.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunspot https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Red_Spot
At the equator, cyclones, anticyclones, gyres and sunspots are not formed, because at the equator, the Coriolis force does not arise.
https://images.app.goo.gl/3sRSRbVsEbWtMoVY6
Atmospheric vortices and sunspots live for several days, and then there is a gradual destruction.
The solar force of Coriolis, stretches and compresses the Earth twice a day, due to which the pressure under the earth's crust decreases and increases. As a result, air enters the earth's crust.
As we can see, the weather above the Earth's crust depends on the speed and direction of rotation of cyclones and anticyclones, and the weather under the Earth's crust depends on the speed and direction of rotation of magma vortices.
All physical processes that occur in the atmosphere occur in the ocean and in the Earth's mantle.
"The laws of nature are universal!" (Lao Tzu)
Criticism of the tectonic hypothesis.
1. Why do earthquakes occur both at the junction of tectonic plates and in the center of the plate?
2. The statement that stress accumulates at the junction of tectonic plates is questionable.
a) How much is the density of the tectonic plate at the junction greater than in the middle of the plate?
b) Does tectonics affect the rate of well drilling?
c) If the lithospheric plates were constantly moving one on top of the other, then the earth would tremble and hum, especially in zones of seismic activity.
3. Tectonic plates cannot have the properties of a spring or rubber.
a) This can be easily verified by testing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics
4. Why is the epicenter circular rather than elongated along the fault line?
5. During earthquakes, people and objects that are at the epicenter are strongly thrown up. I believe only an underground explosion is capable of this.
Then, from the epicenter, the waves are diverged into all four sides, thanks to which the buildings are swing - like ships on the waves. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_motions
a) According to the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes, fluctuations from the epicenter should not be divided into four sides, but only in two sides. Arriving, horizontal oscillation of the earth's crust, which would be extremely detrimental.
6. Vibrations from earthquakes are transmitted in the form of seismic waves over a distance of more than 10 thousand km.
a) Then why seismic waves do not provoke earthquakes in other regions of the Earth
http://www.evgengusev.narod.ru/spb/zhirnov-2011.html
7. According to the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes, a seismic wave moves in the crust of the Earth. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seismic_wave
And according to the explosive hypothesis, a seismic tsunami wave moves under the Earth's crust.
8. After major earthquakes, a seismic wave goes around half of the globe. I believe that only a seismic tsunami wave, which moves under the Earth's crust, is capable of this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave
9. The movement of the plates is explained by mantle heat-gravity currents, which move similarly to constant currents in the ocean.
Questions arise:
a) Ocean currents are driven by the wind.
c) The boiling mantle will not be able to create a constant current, due to the rotation of the Earth and the absence of shores, under the crust of the Earth.
10. The statement that the lithospheric plates move due to the temperature difference in the bowels of the Earth is questionable.
a) Moreover, the earth's crust itself moves the mantle, thereby forming magmatic vortices.
c) It also raises doubts that lithospheric plates can sink into the planet's mantle and reach the depth of the outer core.
d) If the lower lithospheric plates easily sink into the Earth's mantle, then during the creeping of the plates, the lower plate should easily sink down.
11. There is no information about the amount of speed, direction of movement and size of tectonic plates.
a) If there are 13 lithospheric plates on the Earth, then there should be about 100 tectonic plates. https://uc.xyz/TuYWM?pub=link
b) How many tectonic plates are there on the Eurasian lithospheric plate? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics
c) There is no description of the mechanism of interaction of tectonic plates. https://images.app.goo.gl/CgMB2Lj8Q7PWJGAr9
d) Do tectonic plates sink in the Earth's mantle, reaching the depth of the outer core.
12. How do lithospheric plates float around the Earth's core at a depth of 700 km?
a) Similar to planets - in elliptical orbits?
b) Chaotic - like icebergs in the ocean?
c) Within the framework of the laws of mechanics, the plates should rotate around the core of the Earth in the same way as the planets of the solar system.
d) If the plate approaches the center of the Earth by 700 km, then the angular velocity of the plate will greatly increase.
13. It is believed that the sources of earthquakes are located at depths of more than 700 km.
a) As at a depth of 700 km. is there a collision of two tectonic plates?
b) What forces move and press two plates at a depth of 700 km?
c) How do two plates find each other at such depths?
d) Why is there no detailed description of the mechanism of the origin of the earthquake source at great depths. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake
e) I believe, according to the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes, the hypocenter and epicenter should be at the same depth.
14. Also, there is no exhaustive explanation of the mechanism of movement of seismic waves from the earthquake source to the Earth's surface, over a distance of more than 700 km. https://uc.xyz/QWJOM?pub=link
a) As a seismic wave, moving from the source to the epicenter, over a distance of more than 700 km. falls exactly on the fault line. https://uc.xyz/SyD44?pub=link
b) It is possible that seismic waves that formed in the Earth's mantle at a depth of more than 700 km do not reach the earth's crust. https://uc.xyz/S8w3m?pub=link
c) It is possible that the tremors that occur at the bottom of the sea depths do not reach the surface of the seas.
15. According to the explosive hypothesis of earthquakes, the diameter of the epicentral region depends on the size of the pit under the earth's crust and does not exceed 100 km.
a) According to the tectonic hypothesis, the diameter of the epicentral area depends on the depth of the source and should exceed 1000 km.
b) What will be the diameter of the epicentral area if the depth of the source is 700 km https://uc.xyz/SyD44?pub=link
c) What will be the diameter of the epicentral region if the earthquake source is located in the center of the Earth?
16. The tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes can be easily tested if two clay slabs are moved towards each other in a basin of water.
Continuation: Forum of Akademgorodok Novosibirsk.
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. There is no convincing evidence that tectonic plates exist.
Apart from the clear lines of volcanic or tectonic activity and the measured continental drifts.
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3. The statement that the Earth's crust accumulates tectonic stress is questionable. (This can be easily verified by putting experience).
The stress is measurable.
It has nothing to do with golf.
Can one of the mods please movie this to "that can't be true" please?
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the diameter of the epicenter should be more than 700 km
The word "epicentre" means "on the centre" It is, by definition, the point above the centre of the earthquake and , since it's a point, it has no diameter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicenter
If you know that little about quakes, perhaps you should try learning, before trying to tell everyone they are wrong.
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the diameter of the epicenter should be more than 700 km
The word "epicentre" means "on the centre" It is, by definition, the point above the centre of the earthquake and , since it's a point, it has no diameter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicenter
If you know that little about quakes, perhaps you should try learning, before trying to tell everyone they are wrong.
It looks like he knows as little about quakes as he does about tides. In common with a few who post in this section, he also seems to try to shoehorn his pet theory into everything...
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"Earthquakes occur in the crust or upper mantle, which ranges from the earth's surface to about 800 kilometers deep (about 500 miles)."
https://www.usgs.gov/faqs/what-depth-do-earthquakes-occur-what-significance-depth?qt-news_science_products=0#qt-news_science_products
b) How does energy transfer mechanism from the hearth to the epicenter, at a distance of 700 km?
As shockwaves passing through rockWhat will the epicenter area be equal, if we consider that the diameter of the epicenter depends on the distance from the hearth to the epicenter?
I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you are asking.
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The stupider the hypothesis, the easier it is to refute it, provided that the opponent is not stupid!
According to the magma-gate theory of earthquakes, the diameter of the epicenter depends, on the diameter of the magma-gate, and reaches 100 km.
The word "epicentre" means "on the centre" It is, by definition, the point above the centre of the earthquake and , since it's a point, it has no diameter.
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What will be the diameter of the epicenter
Zero.
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How do the plates interact at such a depth, given that the continental crust is about 30 km thick, and the oceanic one is 5 km thick?
That is completely factually incorrect. Continental lithosphere is up to 200km thick. How do plates interact at greater depth? It appears that you have never heard of/have discounted subduction of plates which is central to plate tectonics?
Also, you appear to not understand what epicentre means - as pointed out by BC several times.
It looks like plate tectonics, like tides is another thing you do not understand but are content to spout nonsense about. Why do you do it?
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When a heavy volcanic plug moves downward, due to friction, the volcano trembles and hums, similar to a log from which an unlubricated nail is pulled out.
You're just taking the piss now. Pretty obvious trolling.
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How do the plates interact at such a depth, given that the continental crust is about 30 km thick, and the oceanic one is 5 km thick?
That is completely factually incorrect. Continental lithosphere is up to 200km thick. How do plates interact at greater depth? It appears that you have never heard of/have discounted subduction of plates which is central to plate tectonics?
Also, you appear to not understand what epicentre means - as pointed out by BC several times.
It looks like plate tectonics, like tides is another thing you do not understand but are content to spout nonsense about. Why do you do it?
I think this may be involved.
https://shop.newsthump.com/product/dunning-kruger-club-t-shirt/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=image-post&utm_campaign=010221&fbclid=IwAR0omwBOVfIG70H9LCyhBFb02gfTXDE1oq0w28fAZr-IAr7j9cegAFzq_lI
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The only interesting I've learned from this thread is that vorot is the Russian word for gate.
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The volcano tube is a cone about ten kilometers long, it is possible to squeeze it only from top to bottom.
The greater the pressure of the magma, the more densely it is closed.
The only reason somebody would post scientifically illiterate nonsense like this is to troll.
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There are a few other contributing factors for any theory of earth quakes. First, it was discovered that the earth's iron core spins faster than the surface of the earth. The core will then create visco-plastic friction with the mantle which then helps drag the surface crust along. This can create surface stresses.
The core laps the crust about once every 400 years which is fast compared to plate movement. Below is link from the National Science Foundation .
https://nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_summ.jsp?cntn_id=100044&org=NSF (https://nsf.gov/discoveries/disc_summ.jsp?cntn_id=100044&org=NSF)
Another contributing factor is water, which can dissolve its way below the crust into the mantle. This is driven by chemical potential. As water gets hotter and increases pressure it can dissolve most crustal materials. This is driven by the second law . There will be displacement upward of other materials such as molten materials that will phase separate as rising water lowers pressure and temperature.
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The volcano is a pressure relief valve.
The statement that a volcanic eruption is the result of an increase in mantle pressure does not stand up to criticism, because the greater the pressure of the mantle, the more tightly the vent closes. The mouth of the volcano is a cone several kilometers long. For the vent to open, the plug of the volcano must move down and not up. And for this, a vacuum must be created under the volcanic plug, or an explosion must occur over the plug.
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According to the magma vortex theory of earthquakes, a seismic wave moves under the earth's crust, similarly to the cinnamon.
I think that lost (or gained) something in translation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon
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According to the magma vortex theory of earthquakes, a seismic wave moves under the earth's crust, similarly to the cinnamon.
I think that lost (or gained) something in translation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinnamon
According to the magma-language theory of earthquakes, the seismic wave moves under the crust of the Earth, the analogue of the tsunami.
And according to tectonic theory, a seismic wave moves in the crust of the Earth. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seismic_wave
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Is there a comedy section this thread could be moved to?
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Is there a comedy section this thread could be moved to?
It's not funny anymore.
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After strong earthquakes, the seismic wave envelopes half of the globe, I suppose, only the seismic wave-tsunami is capable of it, which moves under the crust of the Earth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1897_assam_earthquake
Is it anything like a disco inferno?
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After strong earthquakes, the seismic wave envelopes half of the globe, I suppose, only the seismic wave-tsunami is capable of it, which moves under the crust of the Earth.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1897_assam_earthquake
Is it anything like a disco inferno?
Burn baby burn ....
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The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
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The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
Are you trying to compete with yourself you post the most stupid statement?
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The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
I taped a firecracker to a rubber ball and blew it up. I then filled my kitchen sink with water, submerged a rubber ball in it and stabbed it with a steak knife. The experiment showed both of those are possible. So in your world does that mean lava hurricanes exist or not?
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The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
Are you trying to compete with yourself you post the most stupid statement?
He's going to have to work hard to beat (or explain) the cinnamon one.
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The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
Are you trying to compete with yourself you post the most stupid statement?
He's going to have to work hard to beat (or explain) the cinnamon one.
Maybe he thinks Dune is a scientific text?
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The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
I taped a firecracker to a rubber ball and blew it up. I then filled my kitchen sink with water, submerged a rubber ball in it and stabbed it with a steak knife. The experiment showed both of those are possible. So in your world does that mean lava hurricanes exist or not?
I hope no one was hurt by the experiment.
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The hypothesis can be easily tested if a rubber ball is blown up or punctured in the water.
I taped a firecracker to a rubber ball and blew it up. I then filled my kitchen sink with water, submerged a rubber ball in it and stabbed it with a steak knife. The experiment showed both of those are possible. So in your world does that mean lava hurricanes exist or not?
I hope no one was hurt by the experiment.
No, but your idea was brutally killed.
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The hypothesis presented can be easily tested if a firecracker is blown up under the ice.
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The hypothesis presented can be easily tested if a firecracker is blown up under the ice.
Great fun, I'm sure.
But not much to do with earthquakes.
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Foreshocks - subsidence of the earth's crust, before the main earthquake, due to rarefaction between the earth's crust and magma.
Aftershocks - subsidence of the earth's crust after the main earthquake.
Aftershocks also appear after underground atomic explosions.
Stalactites https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalactite
https://images.app.goo.gl/r5vbu3yMhya1c1pdA
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Aftershocks also appear after underground atomic explosions.
Depends on what sort of bar you are in.
https://www.google.com/search?q=Aftershock&prmd=sivn&sxsrf=ALeKk01aNq0UdIbEEsUXk37YZlfnv1bQOQ:1619264987480&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&fir=2WYnWeYptW6seM%252CPJOKL5AmBAsjkM%252C_&vet=1&usg=AI4_-kTdCyLnvQRDy3zgL0DnuCkTHUl3kA&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjot4CT6JbwAhViRxUIHX_fDhcQ9QF6BAgiEAE&biw=1920&bih=937#imgrc=2WYnWeYptW6seM
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Foreshocks - subsidence of the earth's crust due to rarefaction between the earth's crust and magma.
Aftershocks - subsidence of the earth's crust after the main earthquake. Aftershocks also appear after underground atomic explosions.
Rarefaction? Can you explain exactly what you mean by this?
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Magma vortex hypothesis of earthquakes.
Community of Russian Scientists. https://vk.com/rosuch
Rotating, the earth's crust carries away magma, due to which dozens of magma vortices are formed, which move along the equator following the earth's crust.
Magma vortices move relative to the earth's crust with variable speed, sometimes stopping, similar to cyclones and anticyclones. Blocking anticyclones. http://meteoweb.ru/2018/phen20180730.php
Magma vortices are one of the mechanisms of the Earth's thermoregulation.
A cyclonic magma vortex is a magma vortex that throws magma up from the center of the Earth.
Anticyclonic magma vortices, on the contrary, draws in magma from the upper layers of magma and send it to the center of the Earth.
Magma vortices, creating pressure and rarefaction between the earth's crust and magma, are one of the causes of vertical stress in the earth's crust.
A similar natural phenomenon is observed in the seas and oceans, when a whirlpool rotates under the ice. https://images.app.goo.gl/3sRSRbVsEbWtMoVY6
When a number of factors coincide, magma vortices are transformed into a tornado, due to which the tornado from the earth's crust sucks in gases and air. And as soon as the ratio of gas and air reaches the desired ratio, an explosion occurs. Ignition of a combustible mixture occurs as a result of an electric discharge, contact of magma with a combustible mixture, or from spontaneous ignition of a compressed mixture.
Waves from the source of the earthquake diverge in all directions, then return back to the source, due to which there are repeated shocks.
The hypothesis presented can be easily tested if a firecracker is blown up under the ice. The intensity of earthquakes can be expressed by the following formula. A = m / h.
Where m is the mass of the combustible mixture.
h is the depth of the combustible mixture.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcano
Harbingers of earthquakes:
1. Underground hum, tremors of the earth, change in the level of groundwater.
a) At the epicenter, the groundwater level may decrease and along the perimeter of the epicenter, rise.
2. Above the epicenter of a future earthquake, there may be changes in geophysical fields (magnetic, electric, gravitational, etc.).
3. Foreshocks - subsidence of the earth's crust before the main earthquake, due to rarefaction, between the earth's crust and magma.
Stalactites https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalactite
https://images.app.goo.gl/r5vbu3yMhya1c1pdA
4. Aftershocks - subsidence of the earth's crust after the main earthquake.
Aftershocks also appear after underground atomic explosions.
The manifestations of volcanic earthquakes are almost indistinguishable from tectonic earthquakes.
In Japan, an explosion of volcanic gases shattered a mountain 670 meters high.
In Indonesia, an explosion of a combustible mixture destroyed half of the volcano and caused an earthquake in several cities and there are quite a few such facts.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1883_eruption_of_Krakatoa
90 percent of volcanoes are located in seismically active zones. https://uc.xyz/QbLhw?pub=link
Geyser https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geyser_animation.gif
The geological activity of the planets depends on the diameter, axial and orbital velocity of the planets.
Geologically active are: Earth, Jupiter, Ceres, Enceladus, Io, etc. The geological activity of Venus and Mercury, due to the slow axial rotation, is extremely low. http://www.evgengusev.narod.ru/spb/zhirnov-2011.html
It is possible that solar activity is the result of the geological activity of the Sun, and sunspots are funnels of magma vortices. https://www.spaceweatherlive.com/ru/pomoshch/chto-predstavlyayut-soboy-solnechnye-pyatna.html
The reason for the axial rotation of the Earth is cyclones and anticyclones, which move in the direction of the general transport of air, from west to east.
https://meteoinfo.ru/ugryumov/2926-ugryumov-perenos
Due to the rotation of the Earth, centrifugal force acts on the Earth's crust, but due to the orbital rotation of the Earth, the centrifugal force of the Earth oscillates, due to which the earth's crust moves.
It is also possible that the volume and mass of the Earth grows over the years.
As we can see, the weather above the Earth's crust depends on the speed and direction of rotation of cyclones, anticyclones, and the weather under the Earth's crust depends on the speed and direction of rotation of magma vortices. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tornado_Alley
Everything is relative!
A water tornado in a matter of minutes draws in thousands of tons of water, and a magma-vortex tornado, I believe, is more massive and powerful.
All physical processes that occur in the atmosphere occur in the ocean and in the Earth's mantle.
"The laws of nature are universal." Lao Tzu.
Criticism of the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes.
1. Why do earthquakes occur both at the junction of tectonic plates and in the center of the plate?
2. The statement that tectonic stress is accumulating in the Earth's crust raises doubts. (This can be easily verified by putting experience).
3. Lithospheric plates cannot have the properties of a spring or rubber.
4. Vibrations from earthquakes are transmitted in the form of seismic waves over a distance of more than 10 thousand km.
a) Then why do seismic waves not provoke earthquakes in other regions of the Earth? https://www.bbc.com/russian/russia/2013/05/130524_okhotsk_earthquake_reaches_moscow
b) Why does an underground nuclear explosion not provoke earthquakes?
5. As a rule, volcanoes and earthquakes occur mainly in the foothills, why are they practically absent high in the mountains and far from the mountains?
a) Perhaps the intensity of earthquakes depends on the ability of the earth's crust to pass gases; it is possible that it is higher in the foothills.
6. According to the magma vortex hypothesis of earthquakes, a seismic tsunami wave moves under the Earth's crust. And according to tectonic theory, a seismic wave moves in the crust of the Earth. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seismic_wave
7. Why is the epicenter circular rather than elongated along the fault line? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_of_Fire
8. After large earthquakes, a seismic wave goes around half of the globe, I believe that only a seismic tsunami wave, which moves under the crust of the Earth, is capable of this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1897_Assam_earthquake
9. A volcano is a valve for dumping volcanic gases.
The statement that a volcanic eruption is the result of an increase in magma pressure does not correspond to reality, since the greater the magma pressure, the more tightly the vent closes.
The mouth of the volcano is a cone several kilometers long, and to open the mouth, the plug must be moved down and not up. And for this, you need to create a vacuum.
10. The assertion that the plates move due to the temperature drop in the bowels of the Earth is questionable.
11. It is also doubtful that the plates can sink into the planet's mantle and reach the depths of the outer core.
12. If the lower lithospheric plates easily sink into the Earth's mantle, then during the creeping of the plates, the lower plate should easily sink down.
13. It is believed that the depth of the hypocenter reaches 700 km.
Questions arise:
a) How do the plates interact at such a depth, given that the continental crust is about 30 km thick and the oceanic one is 5 km thick?
b) How does the mechanism of transmission of seismic waves work, from the source to the epicenter at a distance of 700 km?
c) According to the magma-vortex theory of earthquakes, the diameter of the epicenter (pleistoseist region) depends on the diameter of the magma gate and reaches 100 km. and according to the tectonic theory of earthquakes, the diameter of the epicenter depends on the depth of the source and should be more than 1000 km.
What will be the diameter of the epicenter if the depth of the source is 700 km?
14. You can carry out a simple experiment if you move two rubber or wooden plates towards each other in a pool with water.
Continuation: Forum of Akademgorodok Novosibirsk.
Such a long post with so many claims that are factually incorrect. 8ncluding the claim about thickness of earth's crust which I pointed out previously is wrong. Also, you bizarrely put in the word stalactite with a link to a picture which is very obviously not a stalactite. You keep posting the same crap yet ignore comments. Why?
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This is a difficult hypothesis.
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This is a difficult hypothesis.
It is nonsense. The stuff you post to support it is factually incorrect. Your link to 'the science' is no such thing but a link to a forum where you post your ridiculous ideas and appears to be sponsored by porn sites.
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When a number of factors coincide, magma turns are transformed into a tornado, due to which the tornado sucks gases and air from the earth's crust. And as soon as the ratio of gas and air reaches the desired ratio, an explosion occurs. Ignition of a combustible mixture occurs as a result of an electric discharge, contact of magma with a combustible mixture, or from spontaneous ignition of a compressed mixture.
The waves from the source of the earthquake diverge in all directions, then return back to the source, due to which there is a second shock.
https://youtube.com/shorts/1TIY6ZoV-Jk?feature=share
(After the explosion, a void is formed in the source of the earthquake, into which magma rushes).
Utter, unhinged nonsense. Why do you post this when it only makes you look foolish?
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When a number of factors coincide, magma vortices transform into a tornado, and sucks gases and air from the earth's crust.
And as soon as the ratio of gas and air reaches the desired proportion, an explosion occurs, due to which the waves from the earthquake source scatter in different directions. After the explosion, a void appears in the earthquake source into which magma rushes quickly, for this reason, a second shock occurs.
Ignition of a combustible mixture occurs as a result of:
1) contact of magma with a combustible mixture.
2) electric discharge.
3) from self-ignition of the compressed mixture.
A gas / air mixture will only explode if its flammable gas content is between the lower and upper explosive limits.
https://chem21.info/info/1574373/
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A gas / air mixture will only explode if its flammable gas content is between the lower and upper explosive limits.
Correct, but that has nothing to do with earth quakes.
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The coordinates, epicenter and hypocenter of the first and repeated jokes may not coincide. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/epicenter
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The coordinates, epicenter and hypocenter of the first and repeated jokes may not coincide. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/epicenter
I see plenty of repetition but nothing very funny.
If only someone had pointed out earlier that the hypocentre and epicentre didn't coincide.
Oh, hang on. I did.
the diameter of the epicenter should be more than 700 km
The word "epicentre" means "on the centre" It is, by definition, the point above the centre of the earthquake and , since it's a point, it has no diameter.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicenter
If you know that little about quakes, perhaps you should try learning, before trying to tell everyone they are wrong.
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What is the point of this thread being on the forum? The OP is repeatedly making nonsensical factually incorrect claims and is mot interacting with other members when questioning his statements.
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Before the eruption of the geyser, the magma vortex stops moving, due to which the vacuum between the magma vortex and the Earth's crust increases. Then, the water descends on hot magma and as a result, a geyser erupts.
Here's a crazy idea, why don't you look on wiki to see how geysers actually work. It's pretty interesting even though there aren't any lava tornadoes or anything.
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The hypothesis presented can be easily tested if a firecracker is blown up under the ice.
After an earthquake, the epicenter sinks and becomes denser, due to which the air flow through the micro-crevices decreases, and the earthquake center subsides.
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The hypothesis presented can be easily tested if a firecracker is blown up under the ice.
Great fun, I'm sure.
But not much to do with earthquakes.
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https://www.meteovesti.ru/news/63538431822-okeanskie-volny-sposobny-zhit-ldom These two links show that seismic waves can only move under the earth's crust.
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These two links show that seismic waves can only move under the earth's crust.
The fact that buildings fall down during earthquakes shows that seismic waves can travel through the Earth's crust.
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Regardless of where the explosion occurred, on ice, in ice or under ice, the seismic wave will move along the water.
Regardless of where the focus of the earthquake, on the crust, in the crust or under the crust of the Earth, the seismic wave will move along the mantle.
At the time of the volcano eruption, the volcanic mountain is pressed against the mantle, due to which seismic waves from the volcanic mountains run into different directions.
Stratovulkany. https://uc.xyz/r4kmy?pub=link
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The problem with studying earthquakes is that earthquakes are not cyclical like ebbs and flows.
At the same time, earthquakes have a pattern, they most often occur at the foot of mountain ranges, and high in the mountains and on the plains, they are barely noticeable.
On the plains, there are no earthquakes on the fracture line of the plates. (both on land and at sea). https://images.app.goo.gl/NC9u68
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volcanoes are mainly formed along mountain ranges
Cause/ effect?
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There is no information about the number, speed and direction of movement of tectonic plates. There is no description of the mechanism of interaction of tectonic plates. https://images.app.goo.gl/YVicppPxndPd12E87
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There is no description of the mechanism of interaction of tectonic plates.
Yes there is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stick-slip_phenomenon#Examples
There is no information about the number, speed and direction of movement of tectonic plates
Yes there is.
https://www.britannica.com/science/plate-tectonics
You will have to count them for yourself.
Why do you bother to post stuff that is clearly wrong?
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There is no information about the number, speed and direction of movement of tectonic plates. There is no description of the mechanism of interaction of tectonic plates. https://images.app.goo.gl/YVicppPxndPd12E87
The comedy forum is the other way.
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Perhaps earthquakes, volcanoes, geysers, etc. - is the reaction of planets to enter the liquid on the mantle.
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Perhaps earthquakes, volcanoes, geysers, etc. - is the reaction of planets to enter the liquid on the mantle.
What does your latest bit of nonsense even mean?
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Due to the rotation of the Earth, centrifugal force acts on the earth's crust, but due to the orbital rotation of the Earth, the centrifugal force oscillates, for this reason tension and movement of the earth's crust occurs. These forces during the formation of planets can create mountain systems, but not volcanoes and earthquakes.
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hese forces during the formation of planets can create mountain systems, but not volcanoes
We have observed that volcanoes produce mountains, so the idea that any thing that can make volcanoes ,but not mountains, is obviously dubious.
Why don't you think about the stuff you write and then, when you realise it is nonsense, don't bother to post it?
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He doesn't respond to anybody who criticises his 'theory' and I suspect he has those who do on ignore.
Given that he does not interact with members and he is posting what is obvious nonsense, surely the mods should move this to the 'that can't be true section?
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The volcano is a pressure relief valve.
The statement that a volcanic eruption is the result of an increase in mantle pressure does not stand up to criticism, because the greater the pressure of the mantle, the more tightly the vent closes. The mouth of the volcano is a cone several kilometers long. For the vent to open, the plug of the volcano must move down and not up. And for this, a vacuum must be created under the volcanic plug, or an explosion must occur over the plug.
If the activity of a volcano depends on the pressure of the mantle, then neighboring volcanoes should erupt synchronously.
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the seismic wave will move along the mantle.
In which case it will not be felt by the people on the surface of the crust.
But it is
So you are wrong.
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Rotating, the magma vortex under the volcanic mountain creates rarefaction. Due to this, a cork opens in the volcano's throat, and the air penetrates under the volcanic mountain.
And as soon as the ratio of magmatic gases and air reaches the desired proportion, an explosion occurs, and waves from the volcanic mountain scatter in different directions.
After the explosion in the center of the volcano, a vacuum is again formed, into which gases rush, as a result, the next explosion occurs.
The explosions are repeated as much as a combustible mixture comes.
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The explosions are repeated as much as a combustible mixture comes.
Well, yes.
The combustible mix won't happen, and the explosions don't happen.
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During the volcano eruption, the gap between the two explosions is, from a few minutes to a year.
All this time, it is filling the focus of a combustible mixture volcano. https://uc.xyz/uojye?pub=Link
The culmination of the eruption of the volcanic Krakatau, occurred in the morning watches on August 27, at 5:30, 6:44, 9:58 and 10:52, when the grand explosions rang out.
Perhaps an earthquake, it is a volcano, which is erupted towards the nucleus of the Earth.
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All this time, there is a filling of the center of the volcano with a combustible mixture.
Repeating it does not make it true.
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During the volcano eruption, the gap between the two explosions is, from a few minutes to a year.
All this time, it is filling the focus of a combustible mixture volcano. https://uc.xyz/uojye?pub=Link
The culmination of the eruption of the volcanic Krakatau, occurred in the morning watches on August 27, at 5:30, 6:44, 9:58 and 10:52, when the grand explosions rang out.
Perhaps an earthquake, it is a volcano, which is erupted towards the nucleus of the Earth.
What utter crap.
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Gases move along the cracks that stretch from the continents to the seas, thereby forming seaquakes. https://uc.xyz/S6F82?pub=link
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Along the cracks, air can move into the sea, thereby forming - seaquakes.
https://uc.xyz/S6F82?pub=link
Utter crap
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The mouth of the volcano is a cone several kilometers long. For the vent to open, the plug of the volcano must move down and not up
I agree that the mouth of an extinct volcano is a cone of solid rock many kilometers long, forming a thick plug.
- The mouth of an actively-erupting volcano is a cone of molten rock several kilometers long; there is no plug.
- The mouth of an active (but not actively-erupting) volcano is a thin plug of solid rock over a chamber of molten rock several kilometers long.
For the vent to open, the thin plug of solid rock must melt from below (ie doesn't go up or down, it just melts in-place)
- or (frequently), the molten rock below forces a new path to the surface, forming a new vent, and forming a new cone
So there is no need for a large solid plug to move down, enabling an eruption.
- I have had the experience of visiting several volcanoes on the big island of Hawaii.
- From what I have seen, the level of liquid lava in the mouth of the volcanic cone does move up and down over time
- But it is possible for a new eruption vent to form in the mouth of an existing crater without the solid plug moving very much at all
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1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.
At the same depth, there is also a line of equilibrium, pressure of magmatic gases and pressure of the atmosphere.
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1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.
At a depth of 20-30 km, there is also a line of equilibrium of pressure, magmatic gases and atmospheric air.
At a depth of 10 metres the pressure (at equilibrium) is over 1 bar.
At 20 Km depth, a full compressed air cylinder would be crushed by the temperature and pressure.
What do you think is forcing the air down to that depth?
Are you trying to blame the Devil's farts or something?
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At a depth of 20-30 km, there is also a line of equilibrium of pressure, magmatic gases and atmospheric air.
I am not sure how atmospheric air gets down that far... (Oops - overlap with BC)
Are you saying that it is more explosive below 30km, or less explosive above 20km?
- "Equilibrium" implies that it is not explosive between 20 & 30km??
the magma chamber that is currently under Yellowstone... is believed to be about 40 by 80 kilometers across.... The top of the chamber is about 8 km deep and the bottom is around 16 km deep.
Given that Yellowstone has been the source of major explosive eruptions over the past few million years, clearly it doesn't need to be that deep to cause major devastation.
See: https://www.usgs.gov/volcanoes/yellowstone/questions-about-yellowstone-research
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Water at temperatures and pressures above its critical point, will change phase from the liquid state, into a hydrothermal state of water. This phase of water is an aggressive solvent for the earth crustal materials. It becomes more and more aggressive as temperature and pressure increase. Water contained in pockets and pool that can maintain pressure will eat downward following the thermal gradient for ever increasing solubility; entropy driven.
Hydrothermal water also becomes a very strong organic solvent, that can grind down fossil fuel into CO2. This is a process technique used to disable harmful cancer causing chemicals, into inert CO2. Hydrothermal water, inside the earth, may well contribute to the green house gases via its unique organic decomposition reactions. I hope this is in the computer models since it can be done in the lab like the greenhouse gas simulations?
At the even higher temperatures and pressures of the upper mantle, hydrothermal water changes phase into what is called superionic water. This is loosely similar to semi-free oxide and hydrogen protons. Superionic water is nasty stuff, with a sudden pressure drop causing it to explode, as it phase changes back from superionic and mineral complexes, into supercritical water. Water at the hydrothermal-superionic phase boundary; mantle/crust, is the grease and boom for continental plate movement and a source of targeted pressure induction for volcanos. Crust subduction can increase the equilibrium toward superionic. The opposite; crust rising, will get a powerful boost from the energy release of the water phase change. We get more mountains than craters.
The current models ignore many of the latest and exciting discoveries about the earth. For example, is everyone aware that a large ocean of water was found below the crust, the size of the Arctic Ocean? Also a large scar was found on the floor of the Atlantic Ocean, where the mantle is exposed. One theory is something blew a hole in the ocean floor crust, all the way down to the mantle. This could also have been due to a mantle water spring. Both of these observations are consistent with the hydrothermal/supercritical water phase boundary.
Water can theoretically, eat its way to the core of the earth, driven by the increasing pressure and temperatures changes and the resultant phase changes. As such it is likely that water defines the layers of the inner and outer earth based on the position of the water phase boundaries. Experiments have even shown that water will become a metal at the temperature and pressure assumed for the earth's core. Speaking of the earth's core, it was found that it rotates faster than the surface. The core laps the surface once every 400 years. This is slow but orders of magnitude faster than plate movement. The core rotation should be part of the equation.
What was also discovered was that the inner materials of the earth are denser north to south compared to east to west. From pole to pole seismic waves travel faster than through the earth at the equator, even if you normalize the differences in distance; factor out the bulge. The earth rotates and this is used to explain why the earth bulges at the equator, but nobody assumed that the bulge was at least partly due to the equators inner earth materials being less dense.
One explanation offered is that may be due to the magnetic field. However, other data has shown that the earth's magnetic field can wander and even reverse, with the earth never changing the direction of rotation. The magnetic field may contribute but there is something else.
The current consensus theory does not explain these latest data. That theory should be down graded and moved to alternate theory, unless politics leads science. This could be possible since they control the money, and nobody with a large money investment of tax payers dollars wants to have egg on their face. It also means there is room for new ideas.
A new theory that I developed several years ago is connected to water being common throughout the outer and inner earth, from the atmosphere to the core. Experiments to collect data for the extreme phases of water show that the temperature and pressures of phase boundaries at similar to independent estimates in the inner earth layers. It is reasonable to conclude a parallel.
Water's extreme phases, at very high temperature and pressure; hydrothermal, superionic, ionic and metallic, more than likely define the layers of the inner earth. These can move with time, such as the crust getting thicker with cooling. We call these layers crust, upper mantle, lower mantle/outer core and core in favor of the minerals, but water as the multiple personality solvent, defines the state of minerals at various phase conditions.
The equator is the place on the earth of maximum sunshine; solar energy. This evaporates water, at the maximum rate on earth and causing positive charge to build in the atmosphere, as at the maximum rate due to water. This adds an extra water potential that is transmitted to the core at the highest rate at the equator. The movement of water downward will lower the density of the mineral material more at the equator. The positive charge in the atmosphere also sets a potential with the iron core. There is a potential for the negatively charge electrons of iron, which can be transmitted by the water phases to the surface water. Water is rusting the iron core and releasing energy and electron, driven by the sun.This shows up at the surface as the alkaline pH of the oceans. During thunderstorms electrons will be directly extracted from the surface of the earth.
The theory proposed by Yusup Hizirov has potential for crustal dynamic, using this water theory as the foundation. This especially true at the phase boundary between hydrothermal and superionic water. Tweaks in pressure can transmit lots of energy via phase change chain reactions. The current theory is too stuck in the past, and does not have the proper new tools in place to account for all the newest discoveries.
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Apparently there's no thread so bad that PP can't make it more wrong.
Hydrothermal water also becomes a very strong organic solvent, that can grind down fossil fuel into CO2.
No, it can't.
This is a process technique used to disable harmful cancer causing chemicals, into inert CO2.
No
If you read the stuff correctly you would see that supercritical water is used as a solvent but the actual reaction of the toxics is the reaction with oxygen in solution.
You might find it easier if you used teh right word.
Hydrothermal means something else.
Hydrothermal water, inside the earth, may well contribute to the green house gases via its unique organic decomposition reactions.
Nope.
Water can theoretically, eat its way to the core of the earth
No, it reacts with the iron before it gets there.
and so on...
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The theory proposed by Yusup Hizirov has potential for crustal dynamic, using this water theory as the foundation. This especially true at the phase boundary between hydrothermal and superionic water. Tweaks in pressure can transmit lots of energy via phase change chain reactions. The current theory is too stuck in the past, and does not have the proper new tools in place to account for all the newest discoveries.
Nice try Aqualad.
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Hydrothermal water also becomes a very strong organic solvent, that can grind down fossil fuel into CO2. This is a process technique used to disable harmful cancer causing chemicals, into inert CO2.
What utter pseudoscientific nonsense.
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The theory proposed by Yusup Hizirov
It's not a theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_theory
A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world and universe that can be repeatedly tested and verified in accordance with the scientific method, using accepted protocols of observation, measurement, and evaluation of results.
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1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.
At the same depth, there is also a line of equilibrium, pressure of magmatic gases and pressure of the atmosphere.
The equilibrium line is a boundary that is difficult for gases to overcome without the help of tidal forces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_front
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1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.
At the same depth, there is also a line of equilibrium, pressure of magmatic gases and pressure of the atmosphere.
The equilibrium line is a boundary that is difficult for gases to overcome without the help of tidal forces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_front
What do you think is "pumping" the air down there?
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1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.
At the same depth, there is also a line of equilibrium, pressure of magmatic gases and pressure of the atmosphere.
The equilibrium line is a boundary that is difficult for gases to overcome without the help of tidal forces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_front
Why is this idiocy in New Theories? It is not a new theory, it is utter nonsense with the OP not engaging with comments and posting increasingly outlandish nonsense. It is trolling and should be moved/locked.
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1. The autoignition temperature of gases is about 500 ° C, and is located at a depth of 20-30 km.
At the same depth, there is also a line of equilibrium, pressure of magmatic gases and pressure of the atmosphere.
The equilibrium line is a boundary that is difficult for gases to overcome without the help of tidal forces. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_front
What do you think is "pumping" the air down there?
Pressure.
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Pressure.
Then you are an idiot, a liar, or a troll, because I already explained why the pressure pumps in the wrong direction.
At a depth of 10 metres the pressure (at equilibrium) is over 1 bar.
At 20 Km depth, a full compressed air cylinder would be crushed by the temperature and pressure.
What do you think is forcing the air down to that depth?
Are you trying to blame the Devil's farts or something?
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Why is this idiocy in New Theories?
Good point.
Even "That can't be true" is flattering it.
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Why is this idiocy in New Theories? It is not a new theory, it is utter nonsense with the OP not engaging with comments and posting increasingly outlandish nonsense. It is trolling and should be moved/locked.
I have to agree this topic is just silly.
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Pressure.
Then you are an idiot, a liar, or a troll, because I already explained why the pressure pumps in the wrong direction.
At a depth of 10 metres the pressure (at equilibrium) is over 1 bar.
At 20 Km depth, a full compressed air cylinder would be crushed by the temperature and pressure.
What do you think is forcing the air down to that depth?
Are you trying to blame the Devil's farts or something?
At great depths, liquids and gases are under high pressure and temperature. And the result of their interaction and state of aggregation is a big mystery. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_matter
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Mods. Please relegate this idiotic nonsense to 'That Cant Be True'.
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And their state of aggregation is a big mystery.
It's not a mystery, and it's not relevant.
The state of matter in the layers between the surface and those great depths is well characterised- it's just ****ing rocks.
And they don't magically pump air down to the depths because, in doing so, they would lift themselves against gravity.
So that would be a breach of the conservation of energy.
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And their state of aggregation is a big mystery.
It's not a mystery, and it's not relevant.
The state of matter in the layers between the surface and those great depths is well characterised- it's just ****ing rocks.
And they don't magically pump air down to the depths because, in doing so, they would lift themselves against gravity.
So that would be a breach of the conservation of energy.
I can't work out if the OP is an utter fool or is trolling.
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And their state of aggregation is a big mystery.
It's not a mystery, and it's not relevant.
The state of matter in the layers between the surface and those great depths is well characterised- it's just ****ing rocks.
And they don't magically pump air down to the depths because, in doing so, they would lift themselves against gravity.
So that would be a breach of the conservation of energy.
I can't work out if the OP is an utter fool or is trolling.
I'm not sure I care; he shouldn't be here.
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And their state of aggregation is a big mystery.
It's not a mystery, and it's not relevant.
The state of matter in the layers between the surface and those great depths is well characterised- it's just ****ing rocks.
And they don't magically pump air down to the depths because, in doing so, they would lift themselves against gravity.
So that would be a breach of the conservation of energy.
I can't work out if the OP is an utter fool or is trolling.
I'm not sure I care; he shouldn't be here.
I agree totally. I don't see why this thread (amongst others) is not liked or moved, given it is promoting a completely false narrative.
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There have been 7 contributors to this thread.
4 are now saying it should be moved to "new theories" (at best).
I imagine Alan would agree if asked.
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You forgot to address any of this.
Pressure.
Then you are an idiot, a liar, or a troll, because I already explained why the pressure pumps in the wrong direction.
At a depth of 10 metres the pressure (at equilibrium) is over 1 bar.
At 20 Km depth, a full compressed air cylinder would be crushed by the temperature and pressure.
What do you think is forcing the air down to that depth?
Are you trying to blame the Devil's farts or something?
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. Why is the epicenter circular rather than elongated along the fault line?
You mean like this?
https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/earthquake-map (https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/earthquake-map)
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You forgot to address any of this.
Pressure.
Then you are an idiot, a liar, or a troll, because I already explained why the pressure pumps in the wrong direction.
At a depth of 10 metres the pressure (at equilibrium) is over 1 bar.
At 20 Km depth, a full compressed air cylinder would be crushed by the temperature and pressure.
What do you think is forcing the air down to that depth?
Are you trying to blame the Devil's farts or something?
The tidal force stretches and compresses the Earth twice a day, due to which pressure decreases and increases under the earth's crust. As a result, air penetrates into underground voids and cracks.
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. Why is the epicenter circular rather than elongated along the fault line?
You mean like this?
https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/earthquake-map (https://www.usgs.gov/media/images/earthquake-map)
а) According to the tectonic hypothesis, the diameter of the epicentral area depends on the depth of the source and should exceed 1000 km.
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Criticism of the tectonic hypothesis.
1. Why do earthquakes occur both at the junction of tectonic plates and in the center of the plate?
a) As a seismic wave, moving from the source to the epicenter, over a distance of more than 700 km. falls exactly on the fault line. https://uc.xyz/SyD44?pub=link
2. The statement that stress accumulates at the junction of tectonic plates raises doubts.
a) How much is the density of the tectonic plate at the junction greater than in the middle of the plate?
b) Does tectonics affect the rate of well drilling?
3. Tectonic plates cannot have the properties of a spring or rubber.
a) This can be easily verified by testing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics
4. Why is the epicenter circular rather than elongated along the fault line?
During earthquakes, people and objects that are at the epicenter are strongly thrown up. I believe that only an underground explosion is capable of this.
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During earthquakes, people and objects that are at the epicenter are strongly thrown up. I believe that only an underground explosion is capable of this
Your belief is nonsense.
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а) According to the tectonic hypothesis, the diameter of the epicentral area depends on the depth of the source and should exceed 1000 km.
Please stop posting nonsense.
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Criticism of the tectonic hypothesis.
1. Why do earthquakes occur both at the junction of tectonic plates and in the center of the plate?
a) As a seismic wave, moving from the source to the epicenter, over a distance of more than 700 km. falls exactly on the fault line. https://uc.xyz/SyD44?pub=link
2. The statement that stress accumulates at the junction of tectonic plates raises doubts.
a) How much is the density of the tectonic plate at the junction greater than in the middle of the plate?
b) Does tectonics affect the rate of well drilling?
3. Tectonic plates cannot have the properties of a spring or rubber.
a) This can be easily verified by testing. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plate_tectonics
4. Why is the epicenter circular rather than elongated along the fault line?
During earthquakes, people and objects that are at the epicenter are strongly thrown up. I believe that only an underground explosion is capable of this.
a) Then, from the epicenter, waves radiate in all four directions. And not horizontal vibrations of the earth's crust.
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а) According to the tectonic hypothesis, the diameter of the epicentral area depends on the depth of the source and should exceed 1000 km.
Please stop posting nonsense.
He wont - he is trolling and just posting continual crap.
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You can learn a lot about tectonics by watching paint dry. And it's much more entertaining than this thread.
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Is this thread about underground weather. I believe it's like summer down there all year long.
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5. During earthquakes, people and items that are in the epicenter heavily throws up. I guess, only an underground explosion is capable of it.
Then, from the epicenter, the waves are diverged into all four sides, thanks to which the buildings are swing - like ships on the waves. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_motions
a) According to the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes, fluctuations from the epicenter should not be divided into four sides, but only in two sides. Arriving, horizontal oscillation of the earth's crust, which would be extremely detrimental.
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During earthquakes, people and objects that are at the epicenter are strongly thrown up. I believe that only an underground explosion is capable of this.
You are wrong.
Learn some science.
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I believe that only an underground explosion is capable of this.
A spring can throw objects up in the air. Is that spring an explosion?
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During earthquakes, people and objects that are at the epicenter are strongly thrown up.
The peak amplitude of earthquake waves is a few cm.
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5. During earthquakes, people and objects that are at the epicenter are strongly thrown up. I believe only an underground explosion is capable of this.
Then, from the epicenter, waves radiate in all four directions. Not a horizontal wobble of the earth's crust.
a) According to the explosive earthquake hypothesis, vertical oscillation of the earth's crust prevails, and buildings sway like ships on waves. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_motions
b) According to the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes, vibrations from the epicenter diverge not in four directions, but only in two directions. And the horizontal vibration of the earth's crust prevails, which would be extremely destructive.
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. I guess, only an underground explosion is capable of it.
This page is not "the naked guessers" dot com.
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14. It is believed that the sources of earthquakes are located at depths of more than 700 km.
a) As at a depth of 700 km. is there a collision of two tectonic plates?
b) What forces move and press two plates at a depth of 700 km?
c) How do two plates find each other at such depths?
d) Why is there no detailed description of the mechanism of the origin of an earthquake source at great depths. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquake
According to the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes, the hypocenter and epicenter should be located at the same depth.
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c) How do two plates find each other at such depths?
Tectonic plates are literally right next to each other.
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It is believed that the sources of earthquakes are located at depths of more than 700 km
Why do you post falsehoods that you know are false?
This is from your wiki citation: The majority of tectonic earthquakes originate in the ring of fire at depths not exceeding tens of kilometers.
According to the tectonic hypothesis of earthquakes, the hypocenter and epicenter should be located at the same depth.
You have repeated this ignorant statement over and over. Don't you realize repeatedly making blatantly wrong statements after being corrected multiple times only makes you seem unhinged? Any reader of this thread can google these terms and see in about 30 seconds that you are wrong.
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c) If the tectonic plates were constantly moving one on top of the other, then the entire globe would tremble and hum, especially the zones of seismic activity.
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If tectonic plates moved one on top of the other, then the entire globe would tremble and hum, especially the zones of seismic activity.
And it does.
Ask a seismograph; there is always low level activity.
On the other hand, if the plates do not touch, what's in the gaps?
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If tectonic plates moved one on top of the other, then the entire globe would tremble and hum, especially the zones of seismic activity.
Nutjob, fool or troll? You decide!
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11. The statement that the lithospheric plates move due to the temperature difference in the bowels of the Earth is questionable.
a) Moreover, the earth's crust itself moves the mantle, thereby forming magmatic vortices.
It is believed that tectonic plates move due to the currents of the mantle, which moves in a similar way to constant currents in the ocean.
Questions arise:
a) Ocean currents are driven by the wind.
b) A boiling mantle, cannot constantly move in one direction, because the Earth rotates and under the Earth's crust, there are no shores
The stupid burns.
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The movement of the plates is explained by mantle heat-gravity currents
Heat-gravity isn't a thing. When you make up stuff you should define these made up terms.
The boiling mantle will not be able
The mantle doesn't boil.
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The movement of the plates is explained by mantle heat-gravity currents
Heat-gravity isn't a thing. When you make up stuff you should define these made up terms.
The boiling mantle will not be able
The mantle doesn't boil.
c) Convection of the mantle will not be able to create a constant flow, due to the rotation of the Earth and the absence of coasts under the Earth's crust.
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The movement of the plates is explained by mantle heat-gravity currents
Heat-gravity isn't a thing. When you make up stuff you should define these made up terms.
The boiling mantle will not be able
The mantle doesn't boil.
c) Convection of the mantle will not be able to create a constant flow, due to the rotation of the Earth and the absence of coasts under the Earth's crust.
Do you think that actually makes sense?
I'm trying to work out if part of the problem here is a language gap.
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When you signed up to this forum you agreed not to publish material which is false or inaccurate.
In New Theories we give a great deal of leeway for people to explain their hypothesis and to enter into discussion with others. However, if your hypothesis is based on false or inaccurate information and this is pointed out to you we expect you to correct your hypothesis rather than simply repeat the misconceptions.
You have been given ample opportunity to correct your ideas and yet you continue to repeat the false material. For that reason this topic is being locked, please do not start another on the same subject.
Thank you.
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The cause of earthquakes is the explosion of water gases.
Community of Russian scientists. https://vk.com/rosuch
In geologically active zones of the earth, deep faults in the earth's crust are located, into which water collects. http://www.crust.irk.ru/spp2/pages/maps.htm
As a result of pressure, temperature and time, the process of water degassing occurs. https://clck.ru/34zziH https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_oxygen
In faults the size of Lake Baikal, light gases collect at the top of the faults, and heavy gases at the bottom. https://clck.ru/34yQpG
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Baikal
And as soon as the ratio of gas and oxygen in one of the parts of the vertical faults approaches - 1:10, an explosion occurs and the waves from the earthquake source scatter in different directions. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canyon
After the explosion, faults diverge from the source of the earthquake, into which the combustible mixture rushes. An earthquake begins with a foreshock, with a small explosion, due to which gas and oxygen are mixed. Foreshocks are also a catalyst and harbinger of major seismic events. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreshock
In faults, not all of the combustible mixture explodes, but only that part that has reached the desired proportion.
The duration of earthquakes and the number of underground explosions depend on the amount of combustible mixture in the epicentral region.
Ignition of a combustible mixture occurs as a result of compression of the combustible mixture, contact of magma with a combustible mixture, or from an electric discharge.
The self-ignition temperature of gases is about 500?C. https://www.ngpedia.ru/id659214p1.html
The presented hypothesis can be easily verified by blowing up a firecracker under the ice.
1. In the resulting faults, rarefaction occurs, due to which the faults draw in air and then close.
2. After seismic events, faults are filled with magma, due to which one of the types of folded mountains is formed.
3. The walls of the faults are more than a kilometer high and several tens of kilometers wide. and a length of several hundred kilometers, due to the effects of pressure and temperature, they become stronger. https://clck.ru/34pyLR
4. It is possible that some vertical faults are interconnected.
5. It is possible that tectonic lakes, canyons and rivers formed from vertical faults. https://bigenc.ru/c/tektonicheskie-oziora-f68d86
6. I believe that minerals are formed in vertical and horizontal faults under the influence of temperature, pressure and time.
7. Other combustible mixtures can form in the bowels of the earth. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen
8. Gullies can form between magma and the earth's crust on the reverse side of the earth's crust, in which magmatic gases collect as a result of magma degassing. https://www.ngpedia.ru/id659214p1.html
And as soon as the ratio of gases approaches - 1:10, an explosion occurs and the waves from the source of the explosion scatter in different directions. After the explosion, faults diverge from the source of seismic events, into which the combustible mixture rushes.
The amplitude of a seismic wave can be determined by the following formula: A = m/h.
Where, m is the mass of the combustible mixture.
h is the depth of the combustible mixture.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seismic_wave
In the epicentral region, a predominantly vertical oscillation of the earth's crust occurs with an amplitude of more than a meter, and waves with an amplitude of about a meter diverge from the epicentral region.
1. Before an earthquake, some animals leave the active fault zone. I think the animals are alarmed by the smell of gas coming out of cracks. https://clck.ru/34raLX
2. The gas content above the epicentral region can be determined using a gas trap containing litmus paper. Litmus paper can be placed in basements that are on the fault line. https://m.fishki.net/3822287-kak-zhivotn?
3. The concentration of gases in the faults can be determined using wells.
4. An earthquake can be provoked artificially by drilling a well in fresh faults. https://clck.ru/34pyLR
5. In separate segments of the fault, local explosions, foreshocks and aftershocks occur, which increase the pressure and temperature in the faults, causing a rumble, trembling and swelling of the earth's crust.
6. It is possible that the cause of anomalous phenomena in the atmosphere during seismic events is the release of a combustible mixture into the atmosphere.
7. Chinese scientists began drilling a well 10,000 meters deep. https://clck.ru/34zvXo
The formation of planets is accompanied by the formation of cracks.
One of the fissures is the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, which is located in the Atlantic Ocean and diverges at a rate of 0 to 3 mm per year.
The reason for the divergence of the ridge is volcanoes and earthquakes that occur at the junction of the crack, and as a result, the size of the ridge increases both in width and in height.
In the ridges, due to seismic events, vertical and horizontal faults are formed, due to which the crack expands by millimeters, the ridge by centimeters and the epicentral region by meters. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seafloor_spreading
Gases move along the faults that stretch from mountain systems to the seas and oceans, as a result of which seaquakes are formed, and as a result, mountain systems attack the ocean.
Mountain systems formed hundreds of millions of years ago, after the formation of the earth's crust, when the earth's crust under the mountain systems was much thinner.
The higher the mountain systems grew, the more they sagged. Shifts, bends, dips in mountain systems are the result of uneven growth and subsidence of mountain systems.
Three types of mountains form along the fissures:
a) Horizontal folded mountains, formed due to numerous eruptions of lava on the surface of the Earth.
b) Vertical fold mountains are formed after seismic events when vertical faults are filled with magma.
c) Blocky mountains are formed when folded mountains collapse and grow due to explosions in vertical and horizontal faults.
https://shkola.obozrevatel.com/news/goryi-kakie-est-vidyi-i-kak-oni-obrazuyutsya.htm
Due to faults, the density decreases and, as a result, the buoyancy of the earth's crust increases.
a) The height of the continent above the magma level depends on the density of the continental crust.
b) The more faults and voids in the mountain systems, the higher the mountain systems. https://habr.com/ru/post/369749/
Earthquakes and volcanoes are natural phenomena, the role of which is the strengthening of cracks in the earth's crust. And mountain systems are patches on the cracks of the planets.
More than a million earthquakes are recorded annually on the continents, due to which the strength and buoyancy of the earth's crust increases.
Continuation: Academgorodok Forum Novosibirsk. The science. https://forum.academ.club/index.php?showtopic=1235578
Forums of the Nizhny Novgorod State University. N.I. Lobachevsky. http://forum.unn.ru/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=10331
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This idea was wrong before, and it's still wrong now.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=82016.0
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Oh dear, utter nonsense strikes again.