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Title: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 06:18:08
1861 J. C. Maxwell, published his theory of electromagnetic fields and radiation, which
shows that light has momentum and thus can exert pressure on objects.

1901  P. N. Lebedev EXPERIMENTAL EXAMINATION OF LIGHT PRESSURE
 
2011 Grover Swartzlander first began to examine a revolutionary concept in optical physics after studying the flight of a moth. He watched the animal use its wings to create lift, which led to flight. 

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RanM8z2zV1Q/Vb7rNvD4GTI/AAAAAAAACdU/dGoJ6mgUWfM/s400/xc.JPG)


HOW BIG FORCE IS PUSHING WING ?
"DO WE NEED EINSTEIN's PERMISSION TO STARTR ? "
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GC2--sELcyw/Vuzr5r5FqnI/AAAAAAAACsA/g3pdLW5UnDwMsDhl-IW-OJ2xLO5aliHbw/s1600/first.jpg)

I 'm Engineer relativity it is not my strong side ?
May I add vectors ? dynamic preasure to Q = mg ?

Classic mechanica it is old dyscypline but sometimes
physics's history is very usefull
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9m2uRekSDEE/Vuz1pIbxbGI/AAAAAAAACsQ/VYlWVpV3e10MRn0R_8M3Ar0r2FhDE9iIg/s640/del1177.jpg)
Title: Re: Are we able use EM preasure to FLY ?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 07:06:55
I dream to start INTERNATIONAL RESEARCH
I'm very open for COOPERATION
Poland it is too small country to create ART
try find my work in WEB  Maciej Marosz tesla2 ( Poland )
Title: Re: Are we able use EM preasure to FLY ?
Post by: alancalverd on 19/03/2016 09:38:23
Yes. But if you put in the numbers, it's not a very practical means of moving around on this planet.

As they say, rocket science is only two equations, rocket engineering is much more complicated.
Title: Re: Are we able use EM preasure to FLY ?
Post by: evan_au on 19/03/2016 10:19:23
Yes, you can use light pressure to move a weightless object floating in space.
See this website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_sail
They suggest that an 800m x 800m solar sail at 1 AU receives about 5 N (0.5 kg) of force.
Realistic light intensity is not enough to lift a plane off the ground.

It is much more effective to use the same light intensity to power a solar panel, which absorbs far more energy from the light falling on it than does a solar sail.

The diagram showing a wing (airfoil) cross-section, with light from the front producing lift will not work as shown.
The wing works because each air molecule interacts with the wing and every adjacent air molecule (according to the Navier-Stokes equations).
Light does not interact with other light particles (at least until you reach lethal gamma-ray wavelengths), so it will not provide lift to an airfoil.
.
Light can provide lift by reflecting the light downwards, by providing a mirror at (say) 45° to the light source.
Just don't expect it to lift you off the ground.
Title: Re: Are we able use EM preasure to FLY ?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 10:58:54
IN MY POST I SHOWING
 NEW PROBLEMS FOR SPACE SHIP !!!


EM drive please find in google !


STUDY PLEASE 45 degrees problem  I speak here about EM drive !
but also TYPICAL airplane can go faster than OWN FUMES !

1,41 ??? in vacuum not exist huge friction
(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-32qztpXT6Q4%2FVoUEoGFTZBI%2FAAAAAAAACks%2FW4JKGO_HZ0c%2Fs1600%2FEm%252Bengine.jpg&hash=3165a2ed9c4cfdb4af947acdc99d6f8a)


HOW BIG FORCE IS PUSHING SAIL ?
MORE FASTER  = MORE LOWER FORCE ????
( INTENSITY is GOING DOWN if SPEED RISE )

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-spFELf_xcJ0/U_CBPKLmCEI/AAAAAAAAB5M/FfYELmw3M6c/s1600/pytanie1.jpg)


HOW HEAVY IS 1kg ?
0,001 mm  sheet has got near 100 m^2  area !!!
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-a5r9GtqfrbY/Vb3ULiRMuKI/AAAAAAAACcs/EOVyEkykhcU/s640/galileo.jpg)

DO WE NEED EVALUATE DYNAMICA FOR EM PREASURE ?
( SHEET WILL REGISTER TORQE !
EM preasure no need push ideal central )

for example we have NORMAL air's preasure
normal temperature

NORMAL EM RADIATION DO WE PEOPLE NEED THIS  ?
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-G8XXBln--6k/VP_2zF35VwI/AAAAAAAACRg/oFtCjI5NMtE/s400/CIMG3703.JPG)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-F9IkgNl8SaU/VeGJvlxWUQI/AAAAAAAACek/S0jKA-zP6rg/s640/123.jpg)

ARE WE ABLE READ MOTION ?
( FORCE it is FUNCTION  F , motion - argument  )

F(motion ) = FORCE ?

HOW BIG FORCE
IS PUSHING THE EARTH ( CONSTANT or NOT )  ???


Distance D = constant ! 
                              SUN's power =  constant !     
                                                             L1 , L2 , L3  ???

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-wtIl_UfVKRo/VoMHCa2rWHI/AAAAAAAACkc/UCGVAeYSZlQ/s640/sun.jpg)


HOW BIG FORCE IS PUSHING CAMERA/SCREEN ( Em preasure)  ?

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-KI2cl357Lyk/UgeORFNsAFI/AAAAAAAABHo/xRsMVPkcRBY/s400/CIMG2579.JPG)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-nCDH5-n3VTU/VT2AQ_J2eBI/AAAAAAAACWA/Zdv6D0ym1BE/s640/11.png)

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-mfX1X9yDqDw%2FVLuo2Th_6_I%2FAAAAAAAACNU%2FIr8_RIUsiu0%2Fs1600%2Fmar.jpg&hash=3529b9fea8f89d83dd91fd69fdd265ec)

DYNAMICA ? absolute FRAME ?
MAXWELL !  and linear  motion !


(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WTceRhi-hIU/VUG8UhWdZ_I/AAAAAAAACWk/Tbv1iX73BFA/s1600/22.JPG)


HOW BIG FORCE IS PUSHING CAMERA INSIDE AIRPLANE ?!
please compare A/B
(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-PqEJjEZQisM%2FUKjVcJCGp9I%2FAAAAAAAAALs%2F0XOxA_hceK4%2Fs1600%2Fwwwwwwwwwwwww.JPG&hash=a7e970c1c631e7822cf8f955a2f12043)


(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PE9eTE0CEPM/Vbxh34yNqHI/AAAAAAAACbw/zorTzyj0NZ0/s640/SE.jpg)

Galilean relativity ?
 IS below Paragraph  about Einstein ?

*********************************************************
Imagine a person inside a ship which is sailing on a perfectly smooth lake at constant speed. This passeneger is in the ship's windowless hull and, despite it being a fine day, is engaged in doing mechanical experiments (such as studying the behavior of pendula and the trajectories of falling bodies). A simple question one can ask of this researcher is whether she can determine that the ship is moving (with respect to the lake shore) without going on deck or looking out a porthole.
Since the ship is moving at constant speed and direction she will not feel the motion of the ship. This is the same situation as when flying on a plane: one cannot tell, without looking out one of the windows, that the plane is moving once it reaches cruising altitutde (at which point the plane is flying at constant speed and direction). Still one might wonder whether the experiments being done in the ship's hull will give some indication of the its motion. Based on his experiments Galileo concluded that this is in fact impossible: all mechanical experiments done inside a ship moving at constant speed in a constant direction would give precisely the same results as similar experiments done on shore.
The conclusion is that one observer in a house by the shore and another in the ship will not be able to determine that the ship is moving by comparing the results of experiments done inside the house and ship. In order to determine motion these observers must look at each other. It is important important to note that this is true only if the ship is sailing at constant speed and direction, should it speed up, slow down or turn the researcher inside can tell that the ship is moving. For example, if the ship turns you can see all things hanging from the roof (such as a lamp) tilting with respect to the floor
Generalizing these observations Galileo postulated his relativity hypothesis:
???
any two observers moving at constant speed and direction with respect to one another will obtain the same results for all mechanical experiments   
???

(it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them).
In pursuing these ideas Galileo used the scientific method (Sec. 1.2.1): he derived consequences of this hypothesis and determined whether they agree with the predictions.
This idea has a very important consequence: velocity is not absolute. This means that velocity can only be measured in reference to some object(s), and that the result of this measurment changes if we decide to measure the velocity with respect to a diferent refernce point(s). Imagine an observer traveling inside a windowless spaceship moving away from the sun at constant velocity. Galileo asserted that there are no mechanical experiments that can be made inside the rocket that will tell the occupants that the rocket is moving . The question ``are we moving'' has no meaning unless we specify a reference frame (``are we moving with respect to that star'' is meaningful). This fact, formulated in the 1600's remains very true today and is one of the cornerstones of Einstein's theories of relativity.
*************************************************************************

PLEASE STUDY A-A AREA
INTENSITY PROBLEM !

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-XOxE9OYcVys%2FVP1HK3fFPgI%2FAAAAAAAACQc%2FEnJXXu4d2lg%2Fs1600%2FCIMG3541.JPG&hash=ea309dc9d07b6875735c9717e4c1e26e)


IS THIS PICTURE (option 3 ) IS REAL ?!
please study  EM preasure ! Aerodynamica
(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-HEnn7T9o9cw%2FVHOZTzOjBBI%2FAAAAAAAACLg%2FCoXd_JoyeI4%2Fs1600%2F22.jpg&hash=2742ed82367f7be8664845ecab73aafb)
















Title: Re: Are we able use EM preasure to FLY ?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 11:16:41
SIMPLE EXAMPLE FOR STUDENTS !

I'm inside ROCKET I turned ON bulb ?

A- nothing happen

B,C - Rocket is slowing down 
( EM PREaSURE IS NOT symetry INSIDE)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-NIRPGlmY9Tw/Ualtt_yXisI/AAAAAAAAA7w/IKotONfnhD8/s1600/compass.JPG)


AM I MOVING ?

respect to what ?

X1... X2....ME >> MOTION

I was in point x1,x2
I'm in point x3
I will be in point x4

HOW I'm SURE THAT I'm moving ?

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-u4PJ98sWLZA/VupvmAX5sMI/AAAAAAAACrA/ZVLKtsjBuqEpPUGh6VEY2ExZLKOCuuA-Q/s640/ws.jpg)

HOW TO CONFIRM MOTION ?
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-phoicMeW28k/VuuT8fxC6GI/AAAAAAAACrg/15Id408lPSwLf3Cvytj0xNEqUnakVpjaA/s640/23.jpg)

During signal is going to sensor ,  sensor is changing position too .
please compare left and right situation it is very similar problem !!!
 
Michelson -Morley  = Evidence that Mr Mach's theory Far Star works
We can't register FAMOUS ZERO ( on Earth it will be small red or blue shift !)
 MACH 's theory = 100% opposite to Einstein !
 ( we can not use Lorenz to describe Michelson Morley
 - above evidence that we have Red/Blue shift  small but never ZERO )
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-LtSyL-h9ASY/VGR7uuAyWhI/AAAAAAAACGU/iboAd1TibrA/s1600/f.jpg)


 Mach- Marosz VS Einstein       
(first test Poland 2012 .... )


Mach's  Far Far Star = Marosz close close star
My close star it is very comfortable object to register
Doppler Shift  and Intensity Shift  and be sure !

HOW BIG FORCE IS PUSHING ASTRONOMERS
THE SAME ? ( constant ) ?
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8wjLt-hPeu0/Utvr6OSc5II/AAAAAAAABkc/4lngY1EJC9o/s1600/tower+1.JPG)



Title: Re: Are we able use EM preasure to FLY ?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 11:30:54
FIRST PERPENDICULAR WING EMDRIVE !

INTENSITY PROBLEM ( Energy's Density near WING )
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-G8XXBln--6k/VP_2zF35VwI/AAAAAAAACRg/oFtCjI5NMtE/s400/CIMG3703.JPG)

WING ?
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-k-fEtiw4wbs/VoAepTqBu0I/AAAAAAAACjI/aBzTu8AugkI/s640/32.jpg)

VERY VERY FAST ENGINE ?
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-vyrJ7RJ11uU/VoETV6_ew0I/AAAAAAAACj0/0XmMIP-rYy4/s640/cv.jpg)


ELECTRO- MAGNETIC CAVITATION PROBLEM
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-58nvjq_P9Qw/VuBTML97gcI/AAAAAAAACoI/egkPmb1sVKA/s640/3.png)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/--U83ZkYxUKo/VbUAPCISZSI/AAAAAAAACaU/R9wl6j9TI6E/s640/gun.jpg)

HOW TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UfHGIAh9ShA/VbxXG5hQPzI/AAAAAAAACbk/T_2I0ElF-gY/s640/tor.jpg)
 


Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 11:42:05
I WROTE THIS POSTS because I hope to find INTERNATIONL TEAM TO START NEW INTERNATIONAL RESEARCH !

we have new problems
but very old classica

HUGE TARGET FOR ME ?  I NEED EVALUATE ABSOLUTE MOTION !

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-UFycYotC5eg/Vupe7qsMYXI/AAAAAAAACqY/K6Y2cKgnymAnckeOZkB4J0kiVuR7O7DMA/s640/w2.jpg)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UA4Iw4GTFy0/VupfDEKo6XI/AAAAAAAACqc/bvWI_Y96OIQ0aLFDMbJfVFWtj3B4hCO8Q/s640/w3.jpg)
Title: Re: Are we able use EM preasure to FLY ?
Post by: guest39538 on 19/03/2016 11:44:09


I like your thinking and it is rather strange how ALL your ideas are seemingly related to my ideas which I have spoken of before and everywhere on the net.

The problem is this, you are seemingly stuck in delusions of grandeur and your picture illustrations are a proof of this. Wrapped into picture thought and not thinking about explanation in words.

I think you are a fraud , a troll, or a person who likes plagiarism unless you can write something that is coherent. I do not believe you can not speak English very well because all you diagrams you are reading in English.

If you was genuine you would have worked out the ''box'' singularity and the ''diamond'' square law.

Reality 101 -

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Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 11:46:45
I know that my posts looks strage !
me also are strange person !

I going sleep during night I see how to solve problem !
I never studied physics !
I never studied math !

I'm only engineer ( machine )

I know THAT EXIST VERY SPECIAL IMPORTANT  constant

Ic

Ic contain Pi = 3,14.....

Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 11:51:18
SIR I CAN SENT YOU MY DIPLOME
( I graduate study in 2008 )

I also can sent You press articles about my work !

I POSTING ON FORUM ( I SEE CAMBRIDGE  LOGO )


I ALSO WORKED FOR MR LUCJAN LAGIEWKA
Epar project !

I SHOWING MY OWN BRAIN MY OWN WORKS !

My first test with camera  2012

Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: guest39538 on 19/03/2016 11:58:04


I SHOWING MY OWN BRAIN MY OWN WORKS !

OK, but why is your English so poor? if you can read things like -


Quote
''Galilean relativity ?
 IS below Paragraph  about Einstein ?
*********************************************************
Imagine a person inside a ship which is sailing on a perfectly smooth lake at constant speed. This passeneger is in the ship's windowless hull and, despite it being a fine day, is engaged in doing mechanical experiments (such as studying the behavior of pendula and the trajectories of falling bodies). A simple question one can ask of this researcher is whether she can determine that the ship is moving (with respect to the lake shore) without going on deck or looking out a porthole.
Since the ship is moving at constant speed and direction she will not feel the motion of the ship. This is the same situation as when flying on a plane: one cannot tell, without looking out one of the windows, that the plane is moving once it reaches cruising altitutde (at which point the plane is flying at constant speed and direction). Still one might wonder whether the experiments being done in the ship's hull will give some indication of the its motion. Based on his experiments Galileo concluded that this is in fact impossible: all mechanical experiments done inside a ship moving at constant speed in a constant direction would give precisely the same results as similar experiments done on shore.
The conclusion is that one observer in a house by the shore and another in the ship will not be able to determine that the ship is moving by comparing the results of experiments done inside the house and ship. In order to determine motion these observers must look at each other. It is important important to note that this is true only if the ship is sailing at constant speed and direction, should it speed up, slow down or turn the researcher inside can tell that the ship is moving. For example, if the ship turns you can see all things hanging from the roof (such as a lamp) tilting with respect to the floor
Generalizing these observations Galileo postulated his relativity hypothesis:
???
any two observers moving at constant speed and direction with respect to one another will obtain the same results for all mechanical experiments   
???
(it is understood that the apparatuses they use for these experiments move with them).
In pursuing these ideas Galileo used the scientific method (Sec. 1.2.1): he derived consequences of this hypothesis and determined whether they agree with the predictions.
This idea has a very important consequence: velocity is not absolute. This means that velocity can only be measured in reference to some object(s), and that the result of this measurment changes if we decide to measure the velocity with respect to a diferent refernce point(s). Imagine an observer traveling inside a windowless spaceship moving away from the sun at constant velocity. Galileo asserted that there are no mechanical experiments that can be made inside the rocket that will tell the occupants that the rocket is moving . The question ``are we moving'' has no meaning unless we specify a reference frame (``are we moving with respect to that star'' is meaningful). This fact, formulated in the 1600's remains very true today and is one of the cornerstones of Einstein's theories of relativity.''

Quite evidential you can read this so you must be able to write it the same?

If these are your own genuine ideas then can you explain how your ideas are more or less exactly the same has my ideas?

I have discussed what you are suggesting at length, provided countless diagrams , but everyone says I am wrong, so why do you think your ideas are correct if they are the same ideas?


May I suggest we are both wrong and need medical help?





Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 12:07:32
I copied this paragraph

please use google put Gallileo Boat / relative motion

 this paragraph it is not  problem 
use GOOGLE TRANSLATOR

I'm machine Engineer I know Classica fundaments !


YOUR ARGUMENT IS UNLOGIC !
NOBODY
NOBODY
WHO HAS BRAIN NOBODY IS USING PHYSICS for SPAM !

NOBODY READ POSTS ABOUT PHYSICS
THIS POST MUST BE VERY HIGH LEVEL ( Inteligent )
and has NAROW RANGE IN WEB !
Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 12:15:08
PEOPLE WHO  DO are more  i
Important than people WHO SPEAK !

PLEASE STOP SPEAK PLEASE DO !!

I took kamera and I made TEST !
I  FOUND THIS PROBLEM by TEST ( practica )

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-mfX1X9yDqDw%2FVLuo2Th_6_I%2FAAAAAAAACNU%2FIr8_RIUsiu0%2Fs1600%2Fmar.jpg&hash=3529b9fea8f89d83dd91fd69fdd265ec)

DO YOU SEE DARK FILTRE ! ( it is very goog average ! long time )
I did all alone wihtout money outside help

I DID  I not  wait ...

I INFORMED ABOUT MY TEST UNIVERSITETS IN POLAND
NOBODY HELPED  and NOBODY HELPING ME

 (NIKON 5000d  remote start,  zero outside light ,stative, manual set ,
 time 10s  , F 8 , Iso 200 -  /10 cm to  bulb /  filtre is important !!!)
MY FIRST  pictures ( camera -----bulb >>> motion  and bulb-----camera >>> motion )


DURING MY FIRST TEST I FOUND
TEMPERATURE PROBLEM !!!

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.tinypic.com%2F9kwfwk.jpg&hash=2ce60886b2f0b0525ebdc13843a8e1ba)


TEMPERATURE PROBLEM IT WAS FIRST STEP TO
DOPPLER !
(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QFkKMQ1esDY/Vt-_G-BtrQI/AAAAAAAACnw/v3LXld1dB_w/s640/123.jpg)

 During First test Michelson Morley had the same problem what I
I'm using cheap light source soo I started  evaluate Doppler 3D
signal !


I STARTED  READ ABOUT MACH - few weeks ago !
MACH = MICHELSON MORLEY  !



during my work 2012 - 2016 I also tested LASER
one long ARM !

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BD-DL7ZOX7g/UNHCT8ZOoqI/AAAAAAAAATo/zsmVlarBY_A/s1600/1a.JPG)
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jVF8Q18luWQ/UNWGb-sqM1I/AAAAAAAAAV4/IVaV3CLt3aI/s1600/10a.JPG)

I also tested water

source ------pipe ------sensor


I HAVE Ytube with all my tests
( I confirmed day when I made - Ytube = evidence !)




Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: guest39538 on 19/03/2016 12:30:07
PEOPLE WHO  DO are more  i
Important than people WHO SPEAK !

PLEASE STOP SPEAK PLEASE DO !!

I took kamera and I made TEST !
I  FOUND THIS PROBLEM by TEST ( practica )



Have you just tried to tell me not to speak to you , you have more important people to speak to?


I have seen you before on another forum, you came on after me and did the same thing, I think you have read my ideas and understood the content, and now are claiming the ideas to be yours?.   If they are genuine your ideas, then we have the more or less the exact same ideas, so of all the people in the world,

I am the one who understands you and can put into English and have put into English.



Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 12:35:21
DOUBLE SLIT EXPERIMENT
My own  explanation  !

it is simple classic mechanica !!!

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-OoDdkHJ9r8A/VQKwtR4BZdI/AAAAAAAACSU/WspWkyJcBho/s1600/c.jpg)

EM wave is pushing Electron
EM wave is faster than ELECTRON
EM wave is hiting electron and is backing !

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1kiLUNIA0zk/VQKtkz5l-uI/AAAAAAAACSI/3kGuQloeYHw/s1600/CIMG3721.JPG)

WE SEE WAVE ON SCREEN !

IT IS TOTALY WRONG UNLOGIC PHYSICS !!

HOW TO CONFIRM THAT NOT EXIST  QUANTUM !
PLEASE MEASURE  3D signal ON THE SCREEN
( INTENSITY ! ) on the screen



Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 12:41:52
Quote from: marzosia2 on Today at 12:15:08

    PEOPLE WHO  DO are more  i
    Important than people WHO SPEAK !

    PLEASE STOP SPEAK PLEASE DO !!

    I took kamera and I made TEST !
    I  FOUND THIS PROBLEM by TEST ( practica )



Have you just tried to tell me not to speak to you , you have more important people to speak to?


I have seen you before on another forum, you came on after me and did the same thing, I think you have read my ideas and understood the content, and now are claiming the ideas to be yours?.   If they are genuine your ideas, then we have the more or less the exact same ideas, so of all the people in the world,

I am the one who understands you and can put into English and have put into English.


OK -- GOOD DO YOU HAVE EVIDENCE

 SHOW ME YOUR EXPERIMENTS
WITHOUT EXPERIMENTS YOU HAVE ONLY POSTS on FORUM !
each my test  I made and few secounds later I prepared Ytube !

I have EVIDENCE  Ytube = TIME and Day !

sometimes my experiments = stupid
sometimes my experiments showing NEW ( I HAVE MANY Ytubes - 5 years work !)


are YOu trying to tell me that YOU ARE SOO INTELIGENT THAT WITHOUT WORK
YOU HAVE ALL IN YOUR  BRAIN !


look out  exist also POLISH FORUMS

YOUR COUNTRY ?  more details 

ARE YOU FROM ? .... POLAND 

if YOU NOT FROM POLAND
 and YOU HAVE EXPERIMENTS AND TESTS 
( YOU worked on problems long time  )   SHOW ME YOUR MATERIAL


YOU and ME it is possible to find at one time the same problems
it is possible  !

Soo YOU and me are inteligent and this what we do = BIG FUTURE FOR PHYSICS  ( do You have evidence ? experiments ! )

I can ask You very precission question !  ( for example how to set camera ) !
and what You saw ! or You see ... I can easy verif. each Your word!


IT IS


Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: guest39538 on 19/03/2016 12:44:24
DOUBLE SLIT EXPERIMENT
My own  explanation  !



The dual slit experiment is observer effect.

''In science, the term observer effect refers to changes that the act of observation will make on a phenomenon being observed. This is often the result of instruments that, by necessity, alter the state of what they measure in some manner''


By creating the angled slits bottle necking the propagation of light we are affecting the nature of the light. Exactly the same with a prism.

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To say the least there is nothing mysterious about it, the act of obstruction = change.

Added - Mods can I suggest this is moved over to new theories, I need this guy to speak to me and he needs me to speak to him.






Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 12:49:05
Are YOU from USA ? during my first test I spoke by telephone with ONE person He can confirm THIS DIALOGUE ( we were in shock ) !

NEW theories ? Sir I SHOWED physics's history + DOPPLER

I proved that inside Michelson Morley we have RED


WHO ARE YOU
HOW OLD ARE YOU
WHERE YOU FROM ?
WHAT IS YOUR JOB ?

DID YOU MAKE ANY EXPERIMENT ?
CAN YOU SHOW ME HERE ?

IF YOU ARE FROM USA ! and YOUR TELEPHON NO IS ..........( I have this no)
SO  we can EASY confirm that YOU   SPY my work !
Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: guest39538 on 19/03/2016 12:53:49
Are YOU from USA ? during my first test I spoke by telephone with ONE person He can confirm THIS DIALOGUE ( we were in shock ) !

I am English my friend, from England, I have had these ideas since 2009, you are the first person I have encountered who can visualise the same picture, I need to smooth you out in a few areas and get you to picture some other things, but I also need you , you seem to know more knowledge than me with experiments available etc.


To present a paper it has to be written and presented well with diagrams, hopefully  this is sent over to new theories, and hopefully I and you can work together? to present a solid theory that has to be considered,


Have I made experiments, Oh yes lots, not like your but never the less very interesting results from my perspective.

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Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 13:10:14
OK You and Me = Orginal Persons ( we life )

cooperation ? YES 
but we need do this ON FORUM ( Open card )
all what I showed here is ready for very important AWARD
we speak here about NOBEL

NEW THEORY - I hope that many people will help US

I not trust that exist "GREAT SINGLE BRAIN " we must find facts in books
or we must make experiments TEAM many many people ...

plese sent me link ( about what forum You speak )
show me Your posts ( near 5 years I speaking with many people
show me  links I don't remeber )

Dear moderator please  do what is better for forum with this topic
but please not delete info
Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 13:13:25
Did You inform any institution about Your work  pdf /mail ?

Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: guest39538 on 19/03/2016 13:22:37


plese sent me link ( about what forum You speak )
show me Your posts ( near 5 years I speaking with many people
show me  links I don't remeber )

Dear moderator please  do what is better for forum with this topic
but please not delete info


Most forums banned me, no doubt the same as you?


I have been here for a while and the mods will confirm I have the same ideas and have provided lots of info.   Also you can ask over on here

http://www.badscience.net/forum/index.php

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and previously to that on the top google search science forums but kept getting banned and kept sock pupetting them over time until I eventually found here which is the best site so far.


I started 2009 looking a for a poker answer and ended up being a theorist with all my own ideas about things, I was trying to learn them but they never made sense, but at the time my ideas were also vague, I tried firstly explaining that light was transparent, I now have finally got it down to a singularity . 


Here is another experiment I did, I just wish I had some better equipment than makeshift stuff.

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Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: guest39538 on 19/03/2016 13:30:24
Did You inform any institution about Your work  pdf /mail ?

No because everyone on forums kept saying I was wrong and had me thinking for a while I was deluded, but the more I learnt the more I realised I was correct.


Listen my friend I happy to let you lead , I just think the importance is they understand.

Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 13:37:05
can you show me instruments ?

what is your name ?

real and forums

when did You start public Your idea ?

many many time people on forum ( administrators ) joust baned me

THis is my first test ! ( I also have few more early I keep evidence in home ]
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QAAvQuZjtmI/UOhDTjKm0uI/AAAAAAAAAbU/_g7IkKC_K00/s320/8x.JPG)

I never heard about Your forum !
I never  saw  this forum !

Are You able show me Your real name
( after my first publications I LOST JOB ! - someone inform my boss
that is reason why I using  TESLA 2 name )
right now I not have problem ....

what is your name ? "ORAC"

IT IS NOT  PROBLEM TO PROVE ALL
PROBLEM IS THAT PEOPLE NOT TRUST WHEN YOU INFORMING THEM
this picture You can find in goole ( many photoraphy has got long time )

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mF862RHQBNA/VE_qFhdTZTI/AAAAAAAACCY/V3Q8y_GDAGA/s1600/25.jpg)

not many people have this  instrument in home

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gThxTVotyg0/VE_qRpbPYpI/AAAAAAAACCg/Rt8lAHpo9UY/s1600/CIMG3375.JPG)

and not many peole studing doppler  In AUTOCAD !
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u4uigtFfjsc/VokCgjnjkfI/AAAAAAAACmM/b8zyxLRwBvQ/s640/eks.jpg)

All my experiments are roped by camera
( the best methode to read colours shift/ distance  )
200 000 points  plese use "IrfanView" it is free program to read HISTOGRAM
my first picures = RAW format - I lost many time to read 11 MB data (single picture )

SHOW ME YOUR TESTS ? aparature with day /time ?

 I wan to ask You ? about Your aparature ?


Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: guest39538 on 19/03/2016 13:38:05
Firstly we need a title for the theory,

I have a title called the ''Theory of realistic''  , do you think that would be suitable or do you have something else in mind?
Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: guest39538 on 19/03/2016 13:46:01
can you show me instruments ?

what is your name ?

real and forums

when did You start public Your idea ?

many many time people on forum ( administrators ) joust baned me

THis is my first test ! ( I also have few more early I keep evidence in home ]
(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QAAvQuZjtmI/UOhDTjKm0uI/AAAAAAAAAbU/_g7IkKC_K00/s320/8x.JPG)

I never heard about Your forum !
I never  saw  this forum !

Are You able show me Your real name
( after my first publications I LOST JOB ! - someone inform my boss
that is reason why I using  TESLA 2 name )
right now I not have problem ....

what is your name ? "ORAC"

My name is Steve, my forum names have been all sorts, TheBox, The theorist, theorist, albertxyz, absolute-space, theorist-constant, and a few more I forget now,

I will try find some old forum posts, but not promising anything, but here is the proof of my poker 2009 start that lead me into science.

http://www.officialpokerrankings.com/pokerstars/holdemace486/poker/results/E2D17027DCB740FC818C6C640E096F8D.html?t=2



Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: marzosia2 on 19/03/2016 13:58:14
You see above I have water inside !

AM I ABLE READ  ( HYDROSTATIC PREASURE ? )

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GC2--sELcyw/Vuzr5r5FqnI/AAAAAAAACsA/g3pdLW5UnDwMsDhl-IW-OJ2xLO5aliHbw/s640/first.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eBGLmHSGkng/UlEer-shEiI/AAAAAAAABLA/ZG58xxHp7pg/s1600/_DSC0270.JPG)
Title: Re: Can light (EM radiation) be used to propel flying objects?
Post by: guest39538 on 19/03/2016 14:12:48
You see above I have water inside !

AM I ABLE READ  ( HYDROSTATIC PREASURE ? )

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-GC2--sELcyw/Vuzr5r5FqnI/AAAAAAAACsA/g3pdLW5UnDwMsDhl-IW-OJ2xLO5aliHbw/s640/first.jpg)

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eBGLmHSGkng/UlEer-shEiI/AAAAAAAABLA/ZG58xxHp7pg/s1600/_DSC0270.JPG)


The laser in the diagram I provided was travelling through water.


Interesting we both seemingly want to compress light/pressure light. 


I think we can talk all day about our ideas , I also think this will not advance the theory or put down the theory into a plausible format. ( we need a title to get started).


I think we are both saying this?

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and this ?