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Theory of "Frozen" Universe >message to Stephen Hawking
FROST (Full Relativity Of Space Time)
The Story isnt changing any of existing laws or putting something we woudnt know ....(no creations of hypothetic -strings , m-branes ..extra dimmensions -nobody knows where placed...)
Main assumption: Mass=Gravity=Space=Time=Speed
-- All depends from Mass factor which determines :
a)space (m->0 ..space constricts-->0 ) (m>8..space[expanding]>8
b)time (m->0... delay(lag)>0 ) (m->8 ...time delay>8 [freeze ,stop])
---Speed as effect of different ("abyss" in mass comparision)
a) time delay
b) size of space[distances] in its dimmension
---Huge differences in amounts of Mass ->effects :
a) -- Time Freeze ...(huge slowup) ["Hawking disease"]
-for quantum particles as observers
b) -- Time Acceleration .. ( propability ,disability in proper and exact positioning , "effect of inflation"(huge speed nature), wave nature
-for human size observer
...
Model extends reality as we know now , by showing how huge differences in masses have influence on what we see in quantum Physics
To understand IT we need to be like Copernicus ...and..at first stop world of MASS(material objects)where we live in ..then put on motion quantum particles ...
Idea of ..why quantum world is completly unpredictable is because there are DIFFERENCES IN TIME
..different clocks for quantum mechanics ...other for matter and mass objects...
.. generally different time for various mass.......
...Mass=Gravity=Tim3(1/t)=Speed (abilities).......
... small mass = small delay in time
...huge mass = huge time slows (depends of amounts)
...lets visualize it ............and stop to near absolute zero "main watch" ....what we see ...........Frozen (in time) Scientists tryin to catch and calculate particles which are moving with "high speed" and can be (some of them -proper size ) at the other end of universe ..or basicly in many different places (as we see now in sup.posit) ..at same momentum..
....put any TV movie on pause || (macro world is stoped and quantum particle)can move freely all over the room etc............thats how from quantum perspective our world (big scales) looks like.........
...or make a square (like areas where for example nucleus can be found ) border -frame of square symbolizes fence -areas where nucleus canot pass ...
now you observing this frame ...lets put inside a little nicely visible ball with constant little speed....
lets assume constant TIME DELAY FOR BOTH OF YOU .........what we observe ....we observe small ball hitting walls (Arkanoid) ..with nice little speed ..lot of fun
now lets change Time delay for both of us ...if you rise it for observer(us) and , at same momentum decrease it for ball ...what You gonna see ?
FROM OUR POSITION IT LOOKS LIKE THEY "FASTER" THAN US and can be in many places at same time
speed = diferences in mas = dif. in time flow
m=1/t ... t-> v of time flow
observer(in our reference frame).... t[rate]> (slow -compared to quantum) (but fast compared to
neutron star etc)
smaller objects .............................t[rate] --->
quantum world............................. t[rate]-----------------> light etc
"idea of relativity interconnections between - speed ,space ,lenght, time [for particles like neutrino..cus mass so tiny..distances in space relatively "shorter" , at same momentum Time is "ticking" faster>>we observe IT as HUGE SPEED"
General Theory of Relativity acknowledgments FR .... because "frozen world" ; its only addition explainin introducing GR laws in to quantum world .... basicly we treated time on level 0 from our masses like its no difference...... constant then near speed of light all changin ...but if mass by itself bends Einstein's Space-Time[Gravitional T Dilatation]... why so huge diffeerences in masses shouldn't cause similiar [BUT REVERSAL] effects on tiny particles in quantum world
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Flies see the world in slow motion, say scientists:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/10311821/Flies-see-the-world-in-slow-motion-say-scientists.html
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2.Mass influence on Space and Contradiction in Big Bang Theory
[Idea that something "erupted" with maximum power(which caused Alans Guth inf-speed)
... than created almost perfectly spread out universe ...and than everything starts to accelerate faster and faster drift apart from eachother[by the vigour of sudden outbreak] ..is at least strange with lack of logic in it .]
[Before..everything existed in much much smaller dimmension as Hawking deduced "came out of nowhere" ]
"were no space"[for our dimmension]-until mass (matter) were made from single particles ..than space occured and after first matter started to pull eachother .... stars, galactics [causing more and more "distance-effect">of moving away{sinking in space-time** from eachother]
{"cold spots" on background radiation may show first "distances" of stretched fabric, when matter became to buildup-[where is hotter -more cold areas near]**
.____. (quantum entanglement effect)
"distances"
o----------------------o ("cosmological constant")
O-------------------------------------------O (huge distances in space)
ETc
Expanding Universe YES , but NOT an Explosion
Explanation why "distance effect" is increasing when mass goes up.Look on practicly same TV experiment they make --->heavy object bend space "goes down" making crater....
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[in TV presented scenes]material change.. except hard cotton fabric> "the most elastic baloon in universe" .Lets spread it above ..for example.. (as a roof on huge soccer stadium)
Now whats gonna happen,if we gonna throw a soccerball..IT won't do much bend,just a bit [as on picture above]..but now on other side lets get...made of lead very heavy ball in size similar to previous one..whats gonna happen ? It will fall hugely far down and will make a huge crater (stretching of space time fabric causes at same momentum->distance bump up and when that happens objects has minimal power of gravity{which is very strong only on short spaces** to pull galactics on wide ranges[reason why everything not collapsin]
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_________________.......................____________ ___________|..huge
___________________................._______________ _________|..distance
____________________............__________________ ________|..advancing
_____________________..........___________________ _______|..when mass
______________________........____________________ ______|..increases
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"Falling in Space"
Black Holes responsible for "galactics dilatation speed up "
Universe like a "growing flower's leafs of galactic bubbles" which came out from tiny space ..in every direction ["fallin" in to fabric of space-time,while mass increases ]
"Bubbles" Of SPACE-TIME caused by Mass[also Sun creates anoter bubble locally ..connected between eachother by Time Tunels -in Black Holes
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"Galactic"
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New Science Theory: The Universe Isn't Expanding, It's Just Gaining Mass
http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2013-07/new-theory-universe-isnt-expanding-its-just-gaining-mass
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ALS as "frozen state" as an Answer on Theory Unity -GR vs QM
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One of the last thoughts :
Claim that Newton's Mechanic Laws are as well consequence of Space-Time bend ....Higher Mass ..deeper Crater ...harder to operate ...pick up , move .
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________very heavy ball______heavy_____medium mass_____light_________
---Objects on flat surface
---Space-Time Crater [reason of Weight]
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"Differences between Standard and Frozen Model"
Standard Model Own Time Rates dependly of Object Mass :
1. ---> Black Hole [where time rate slows almost up to zero] [huge mass]
2. --------> Object smaller than black hole {star} [rate increases]
3. ---------------------> Human size observer [much higher rate that black hole]
4. ---------------------> Insects [ same rate {according to "official science"}]
5. ---------------------> Atom Nucleus [same rate as Human obsever]
6. ---------------------> Electron [exacly same rate]
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--------> [Time Rate of Clock In Own Reference Frame]
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Frozen Universe Time Rates dependly of Object Mass [graph] :
1. --> black hole [where time rate slows almost up to zero] [huge mass]
2. -------> object smaller than black hole {star} [rate increases]
3. -------------> human size observer [much higher rate that black hole]
4. ----------------> insects [ higher time rate compared to humans]
5. --------------------------------> atom nucleus [higher rate than insects]
6. ----------------------------------------------> electron [higher than atom]
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In my opinion--> one of the biggest "science mistakes"
"Einstein said ...Not even Light can escape the effects of Gravity ...Etc [watch the movie ]
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVHQH4UPIFs
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The only thing what experiment shows is that particle of photon mass almost doesn't react with such a huge as star owns=
(In FROZEN)
= those particles as well living in "a" VARIOUS SPACE-TIME DIMMENSION .
[ different (distances + time rate) -than our mass ]
-problem is that they at same momentum described this "little bending" as curvature of space-time fabric , thats why scientists ---->says :
-"all curvature is measured and confirmed by experiment !!!!"
-"sun bends fabric of space-time just 0.000000998 of a second ETC ......
So logic [as conseuence] that mass of earth and human and electron specially doesn't bend fabric at all --> if sun makes almost "zero" curvature
...but this is clear mistake, if true ...........
As i said ...first of all ....GRAVITY ( BEND OF SPACE-TIME FABRIC ) IS NOT UNDERSTOOD PROPERLY
Its "visible" how differently masses -reacts- in our world
-->just try to throw tennis ball or-> vs 1 meter diameter mountain rock .......
-- or look at SPECIES frame structures by masses->miracles created by my GOD...INSECTS<8 []
[ reason why "nations" will be punished very badly for try of destroying earth living ecosystems]
[]......with 50 legs and 500 eyes ..spiders "walking on the ceiling"
vs frames of human ,elephant or dinosaur -----
--------->{examples how gravity affects environment**
Frozen says ---> mass= gravity = [space=time] ....so obvious --> changes on mass will change every other factor (as originally said)
as consequence -> ping pong ball ...curves space-time
[every various mass object has own rate speed as consequence]
----differently than pyramide[/i][/color]
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From facebook group of:
Einstein special relativity and general relativity (analyse and understanding)
"Let me put some more explanations maybe again . NO PROBLEMOS : )
Current state of science ...claims -curvature of time space-fabric almost totally flat for objects like - sun / earth / human / electron ...changes so minimal that invisible ...........<--------- thats official statment
Frozen Universe claims :
SPACE -TIME IS NO FLAT ..... every object curves [time rate and distance-space ] by Itself ...dependly how much It weights -mass main factor
Curvature which = time rate was -registered by people as "flat" cus It looks like that when you first look at It like .... VISIBLE CHANGES comes when differences in masses become HUMONGOUS
System - fly-human where we see also gigantic proportions ..shows just a bit slow down .
BUT another story beggins when MASS DROPS TO ATOMS { and lower**
- > this is completly different dimmension of sizes ..than ours ...thats why on such a huge enqualities
TIME RATE SPEED UP occures ...and among other things people register such a behaviors of those objects ..like 9 bln hz vibrations ..
As well -->according to equation m=g=s=t=speed
Frozen theory says - lower mass = higher speed ability which is as well ability to jump through space "quicker" <-[shorter distances] which = "higher" time rate ....ETC ETC in the circle
So George Disman we got 2 statments ok ...so far ??
1. science claiming "flat Einstein curvature"
2.Frozen claiming - every mass differently bends fabric [weight effect the best example]
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After all that:
I asked how community confirmed own statment ...which observation confirms flat fabric for almost every object in universe , except black holes .
cause :
For sure ...Einstin eclipse [as example] is not confirmation on flat fabric -- It only says --humongous differencess in mass ->almost doesn't react with eachother -"living in various worlds"
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVHQH4UPIFs
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As well gravitional time dilatation effect isnt .
-shows only that earth creates own curvature - and claims more distance you are from the centre of mass -gravity drops = mass drops as well =time rate speeds up = distances are shorter [space]
Also atomic clock ces vibration is not in my opinion any confirmation ...It actually confirms Frozen assumptions [ imagine earth orbits sun 1000000> times in a matter of second ->just an example] "[/i][/color]
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MASS --> MAIN FACTOR WHICH DETERMINES SPACE TIME
[main assumption]
Determines in a way :
[2 possible ways]
1. increasing
2.decreasing
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---------> MASS INCREASING [affecting both factors - SPACE and TIME]
a] SPACE ----->EXPANDING [expansion of universe /"massive falling in to fabric"]
[pumping of universe baloon]
b] TIME -------> RATE [on clocks] SLOWS DOWN [black hole-time travel -Hawking]
[EINstein -only proper quessed and predicted in theory of relativity]
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---------> WHEN MASS DECREASING
[affect on space-time]
a] SPACE ------> CONTRACTS [not the lenght of the objects as Einstein predicts]
[effects and confirmations -QUANTUM ENTANGLEMENT-"particles behave like there is no space/distance between them"
Cus space conratcts for quantum masses - human peception registers speeds like speed of light for particles=huge distances in short human observer time ]
b] TIME -----> RATE ACCELERATES -smaller u are time for you going faster [insects see big masses in a bit slowed rate -[shadow of collosus]
down to --atomic mass we observe huge time rate acceleration [ces vibration , electronics , propability in positioning of particle behaviors
[imagine solar system and planets going around sun 9 bilion times in a second]
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Einstein in theory of relativity didn't analyze what he found in equations [about mass increase, time rate slow down -->when velocity goes up ]
It basicly says/suggests : -
1. Every mass object has a critical Speed Limit not possible to pass
2.Gravitational time dilation mirror effect
So Einstein should "discover" that velocity of "The Light" can by reached ONLY BY OBJECTS OF PHOTON MASS / SIZE / DIMMENSION
---------increasing of speed possible only with mass decrease------------- [simple conclusion]
Than was obvious ....If mass growth slows time ....REDUCING OF MASS WILL CAUSE TIME RATE ACCELERATION
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After that ...... "Sherlock case" was actually simple .....Mass affects Time flow speed .. so It must affect Space also
...........
as Space-Time is the 1 interconnected fabric
...........v
[expanding ...when mass rises up]
.....or
[contracing ...when mass of the object/particle falls down deeply
Einstein claims here that object, when will reach ->speed of light ->Its lenght contracts .
Frozen Universe suggest :
1. those speeds only
AND
2. Not the lenght of potential object , BUT SPACE CONTRACTS
--->FOR QUANTUM SIZE PARTICLES
example: - for photon distance from earth to moon is "shorter"
= accelerated time rate flow
= shorter distance
= humongous speed [reaching Its destination "quicky" in human mass dimmension world of observation].
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Frozen equation and assumption Mass-Gravity-Space-Time-Speed shows that factors are stricly interconected and depended of eachother--explains -->whats going on in a case of mass variations ,but Frozen also bit differently interprets --> Einstein's analyze when body rocket gets in to "c" speed [on board time slow down/mass effect consequences]
General behaviour
--------------------------------in a case of-------------------
1.Mass ..........increase............................decr ease
2.Gravity........stronger field...................weaker field
---=---------higer amount of----------------lower
-----=-------------------CURVATURE--/cavity------------
3.Space.........expands........................... ....contracts
4.Time...........slows down.........................accelerates / atoms
------------------------------------rate------------------------
5.Top Speed.....drops.................................in reases. / c for photon
--critical--
Number5 also inclused claim that for any "body" in a case of speed changes all other factors changes as well
Remember Fermi 2 differently charged photons arrival??
[in previous comments]
The one "heavier" with higher charge as result of above assumptions, not only has slowed time rate environment , but as well that mean space/distance is "longer" --more expanded-- so traveler has longer trip [interconnection between space and time]
So in a case of increase to huge speed WHEN Rocket mass will increase to gigantic amounts ....predicted Einstein SLOWTIME OCCURES......................--->FROZEN also shows other view of whats going on in this experiment
If Einstein experiment ROCKET [ traveling between points A and B in space ] would reach almost speed of light
mass would increase almost in to infinity ,but that would also made effect ---HEAVIER YOU ARE FURTHER YOUR DESTINATION GONNA BE
ONCE MASS REACH INFINITY -EXPANDED SPACE HAS UNLIMITED DISTANCE TO PASS = UNLIMITED TIME TRIP
= from perspective of observer on Earth human will register rocket time rate as slowed .
[INSIDE INTERCONECTIONS BETWEEN SPACE AND TIME]
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