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Title: Hayseed Electron
Post by: Hayseed on 28/02/2020 04:42:02
An electron(and a proton) is a physical current spring.  Some call it a charge spring, but I prefer current spring, because the spring is spinning, or moving, and moving charge is current.

For every rotation of a charge particle, one gets one e of charge displacement.  So, charge RPM/60 gives you current.

An electron in a low energy configuration(state), is about 18-20 amps.  A proton is about 30,000 to 40,000 amps.  Both can be induced or compressed to much higher amperage.

These are physical mechanical structures, that like a spring, can and do change physical size, with compression.

Modern science does not recognize the prime mover of the universe.  All other forces and all other properties come from this prime force or prime mover.

This primordial force is the self-repulsiveness of charge.  This force is exploding the charge apart....like a super nova.  All of the itty bitty parts that make the charge, are being accelerated out from a common center direction......like a super nova.  As the bits accelerate, a magnetic field forms and causes the charge bit to roll and spiral to the left(electron) or right(proton).  Because the out direction is common to all bits, the spiral is common to all bits....and when the magnetic V is equal to the repulsiveness V......the bits of the charge form a closed, circular, rotating, helix of charge.  With a stable circumference. This is a variable pi device.  So, forget the math and understand the dynamic.  The only measurement needed, is the rotational frequency.  When we are able to rotationally "FFT" the particle, we will know all the dimensions for sure.

The exploding out.......is continuously turned.  Perpetual motion.  Another dynamic that modern science can not understand and therefore will not recognize.

This is a variable pi structure........ALLOWING a variable angular velocity(and a variable momentum)......with a constant tangential velocity.

Did you get what I just said.  One can put a constant tangential V on the structure......and vary the angular V.  Hard to believe?.........look closely and study the structure.

Now, how can one relate to this?  Think of a very thin hula hoop with one circular stripe around it.  Like a barber's pole formed into a circle. The continuous one turn stripe is the charge structure.....and it is rotating or sliding around the hoop.  Imagine the diameter across the hoop. pushing the charge out........and then image the thin hoop, as being a completely enclosed magnetic dipole.......compressing and holding the charge helix in a constant circumference, against that expanding out force.

The only difference between an electron and a proton, is handedness.  This handedness give the two charges different states.  The electron is always trying to discharge...that means it's trying to stay at a one helical turn.   Giving the electron a large circumference.  The proton is always trying to stay in a multi-turn helical state, giving the proton a small circumference.

Why?    Because in the proton, the magnetic dipole is moving in the same direction as the charge.  This acts like a ratchet, and once the proton spring has been compressed, it acts like a expansion spring, and is very difficult to pull the spring apart.

In the electron, the magnetic dipole is moving in the opposite direction of the charge, and keeps the electron in the expanded discharged state.  The electron is the workhorse of the universe.

A turn can be added to the charge with acceleration, induction or absorption.  And a turn can be subtracted with induction or emission.

This structure has two electric fields and two magnetic fields.  There is an electric field across the hoop diameter.  This is the external electric field. There is also an internal electric field between the turns of the helix.   There is a complete internal enclose magnetic field(dipole) in the center of the helix.   There is an external magnetic dipole thru the center of the hoop.

When charges combine and form an atomic dipole......the dipole structure looks like a cone...with the proton at the tip, and the electron at the base.  The tip and base rotate in opposite directions.  This opposing rotation, causes a common external M dipole that both charges rotate on.  That's what fundamental handedness is.  If you set a proton and electron flat on your desktop, and both are rotating in the same direction, one will have the N M field on top and the other will have the S M field on top.   This allows opposite spinning charge to line up on common external M dipole field.  The tip and base oscillate, to form a beat frequency, between the high rotation rate of the tip(proton) and the low rotation rate of the base(electron).  They yo-yo in and out at a beat rate.  The electron does most of the movement, unless, the dipole configuration is in a nucleus.   This can become very confusing when first explained, because we have multiple magnetic and electric dipoles.  The charge internal M dipoles are symmetric but the external electric dipoles are asymmetric. (the asymmetric electric dipole produces an asymmetric field.......causing a weak attractive property amongst electric dipoles, called gravity)
 
These structures have been simulated, and give more accurate results that agree with the periodic table much more accurately than QED can.  The simulations also predicted new spectral lines and nuclei.........which were confirmed.  And explained older known atomic spectra.

The physical dynamic of induction, absorption and emission can be shown with this current spring structure.

All charge comes with the same equal, constant, absolute length.  Think of it as the same constant number of ELECTRIC field lines.  e   This absolute length should be the reference to length.  Because it is the ONLY physical length in the universe.  Charge is the ONLY physical entity in the universe.     We can shorten and vary this length with a curl or spiral.  When we shorten this length, the density of the electric field, increases.  Electric flux can not be added or subtracted from the charge. Only the density of the electric can be changed.  So, we have to increase the amount of magnetic flux to change the energy of the charge.   Inducing a charge with energy.....is adding M flux.   The only way to increase the M flux, is to add a turn to the structure.  When we add a turn, the M flux increases, compressing the spring to a smaller diameter, which results in an increase of the repulsive force.  This makes the charge structure smaller, denser and an increase in the rotational V.(RPM)  The RPM of the charge increases, but the tangential V remains the same. The tangential V of all particles is always c.  Always.   I realize that this is hard for someone who is not familiar with these concepts and dynamics.  One has to take some time to consider and study this.

The angular momentum of the E and M field, is the "mass" of the particle.  This is how we change the mass of a particle.  With turns.  The inertia of the particle is a little bit different.....the inertia is the interaction of those perpendicular momentums.  This is what causes the charge to react to any external force.  Inertia reacts with two accelerations.  The mass is the amount of force, the inertia is the bi-direction of the force.   Inertia.
 
If we set the induction field V, to twice the angular V(not the tang V).......we can roll, or fold, another turn(loop) into the helix.

We can only add or subtract one full turn(loop in helix) at a time.  But this is only part of the "quantum" effect.  There is a ratio of the circumference(which is controlled by the number of turns)......and a ratio between the radius of the helix.....and the radius of the circular ring(whole hoop).

Therefore, only certain number of turns are stable.  One difference of energy level may only require one turn, other levels might require 2,3 or more turns.......before stability is achieved.
The mysterious quantum state is just a certain stable circumference(length).......set with a radii ratio.   It's geometric.

I am in poor health and will have to retire for now.  This model is based on Parson's Magneton, which has been updated, in the last 20 years to include the neutron.   But there is plenty to chew on and have questions about.  Later, I will introduce you to funnel theory, which will show how a make a neutron.  And show you why a neutron is physically necessary for heavier nuclei.

Don't let math replace your intellect.  100 years is too long to vegetate.






Title: Re: Hayseed Electron
Post by: Kryptid on 28/02/2020 06:35:12
These structures have been simulated, and give more accurate results that agree with the periodic table much more accurately than QED can.  The simulations also predicted new spectral lines and nuclei.........which were confirmed.  And explained older known atomic spectra.

Do you have a citation for this?
Title: Re: Hayseed Electron
Post by: simplex on 28/02/2020 09:34:34
"An electron in a low energy configuration(state), is about 18-20 amps.  A proton is about 30,000 to 40,000 amps.  Both can be induced or compressed to much higher amperage."

I = Q/t

As they have the same charge, the electrons and protons produce the same current while traveling at the same speed (the same flow). If an electron is 20 amps then a proton is 40000 amps it it travels 2000 times faster than an electron (the flow of protons is 2000 greater)!
Title: Re: Hayseed Electron
Post by: Kryptid on 28/02/2020 17:10:20
If an electron is 20 amps then a proton is 40000 amps it it travels 2000 times faster than an electron (the flow of protons is 2000 greater)!

Citation please.
Title: Re: Hayseed Electron
Post by: Hayseed on 28/02/2020 18:36:38
The group that researches this has a site at commonsensescience.net   I have not been there for several years.  Click on the resources tab at site.   Go to Articles.  Go to the oldest ones first.   I can not recall the paper......but I recall it being in several of the articles.  There is also some interesting astronomy papers too.  A sure fire way to define a planet.....is a one turn orbit.

I do not agree with all of their papers.  I believe anti-protons are just a highly charged-high mass electrons and a positron is just a relaxed proton.  I also believe they have the wrong neutron position in the nucleus, I believe the neutron lines up between protons, allowing the electron to leave(ionization) without weakening the nuclear bond.  And light.......they do not realize it is intermittent.......with a half wave duration.  They are using conventional math, and do not realize that the modern transforms are incorrect.  This all comes from Newton......and he thought in 2D.......and relied on pi.....as do all.     pi is a conditional 2D ratio.

The proton has about 1800-2000 times more angular momentum, than the electron.  The proton rotates much faster. And is much smaller and denser.   And the electron has a diameter of 200-800 times larger than the proton.  If there was not a difference in size.....the charges will unfold or unwrap each other and dissolve into the universe.  The difference in physical size....allows matter to form.  Without handedness.....all particles would have disappeared eons ago.   The handedness......might be caused by the universe rotation.  The universe can only rotate in one direction...which is sort of asymmetric.   But a charge spring has two equal rotations.  Whatever the cause, handedness gave us matter.

 
Title: Re: Hayseed Electron
Post by: Bored chemist on 28/02/2020 18:47:01
I believe anti-protons are just a highly charged-high mass electrons and a positron is just a relaxed proton.
Well, they recently did some work which shows that's wrong.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2006-5
Title: Re: Hayseed Electron
Post by: Bored chemist on 28/02/2020 18:47:48
And the electron has a diameter of 200-800 times larger than the proton.
No.
Title: Re: Hayseed Electron
Post by: Kryptid on 28/02/2020 21:14:15
I believe anti-protons are just a highly charged-high mass electrons and a positron is just a relaxed proton.

This is wrong because electrons don't interact via the strong force, whereas anti-protons do. Also, anti-protons have a parameter called baryon number but lack a lepton number. The inverse is true of the electron.
Title: Re: Hayseed Electron
Post by: Hayseed on 28/02/2020 21:22:14
Can any one tell me why I can not attach a image file?  I browse and select.....but then site says I have a zero attachment.
Title: Re: Hayseed Electron
Post by: Hayseed on 28/02/2020 21:54:04
For some reason, I can not post an image.  So it will very difficult to show you this.  There is no such thing as the strong force.  Your strong force is nothing more than an enclose M dipole.

It does not bother me that you counter with modern theory and modern math.  My post are not for modern scientist.  The post is for reality thinkers.

Protons and electrons are the same animals.  When you bust a proton.......you get  fragments, nothing more and the fragments have no meaning.......they are dissolving.

Cern will show you nothing.  Except fragments.  There are no secrets to the universe there.

There is no such thing as a quark.......you can not make a proton out of quarks.

There are ONLY electrons and protons.  Our physical universe is simple.

Here is my post....without the images.


Funnel Theory.  Do you know what a funnel does?  It connects a small hole to a large hole.  It's a hole connector.  And it has a normal direction.....which goes from the large hole to the small hole.  And being that the same direction of M flux can converge......we can funnel it.

You will notice that as the M flux goes thru the funnel.....the density of that flux, increases.

Hold a funnel up sideways.....with the small hole to the left and large hole to the right.

Now put a small rubber 0-ring on the small hole, and a large o-ring on the large hole.

The small o-ring is a proton , the large one, an electron.  They rotate in opposite directions.

Because of handedness......they share the external M dipoles of each charge.  But look at the strength of the common M dipole.  At the proton, the flux is strong, because of the small area, and at the electron, it is weak, because of the large area.  The common M dipole is what holds the dipole together.  The electric field attraction only lasts, until the two fields can equalize with the same density, then the electrical attraction stops.  It really doesn't stop......because as the charges merge in, they over shoot a little, causing it to bounce back out a little.(repulsion due to density)  They yo-yo on that M dipole axle. The oscillatory bounce is at a rate that is a sub frequency of BOTH the rotational charges.  It's a mix.....a beat.

Modern science calls this dipole a H1 atom........it is not an atom......it is a dipole.....there is no nucleus.  They are plentiful thru-out the universe.  The building block of atoms are dipoles.  Forming a nucleus. Check out this image.  This is the smallest and lightest atom.  Modern science calls this a H2 molecule.  It is not a molecule.....it's an atom.  The hydrogen atom.

Insert my image.  In which I can not do.


The image has two protons and two electrons and the common circle......represents the common M dipole that holds the nucleus together.   That M dipole is completely enclosed and very strong.  But the weak point is the electron, where the M dipole flux is weak, because of the large area.  If we pull and electron from this structure, the whole nucleus will fall apart.   This is where the neutron comes into play, but first we have to build one.

Back to funnel.......if an external force.....drives the electron closer to the proton.......the electron will contract.....so the the electric fields can maintain equal E field densities.  If it is accelerated hard enough......the electron will shrink and surround the proton on the same plane.  The electron rolls down the funnel.  Think of it as an dampened or locked oscillation.  If left alone.....it will wobble out of sync in about 11 minutes.  BUT.....if will set it right in between two protons, and be about the same size as a proton with a neutral E field..  An electron can easily fit on top and around the neutron.  This keeps the strong dense common M dipole from falling apart when the electron leaves.  The neutron keeps a strong nuclear rope.....and provides a landing pad for the electrons.

Heavier atoms have multiple nuclear plates.  The helium atom(hydrogen with neutrons) is at the center of many atoms.  It can be ejected with collision and/or radiation.

The oxygen atom, is two plates with 4 protons and 4 neutrons.  Two Be nuclei.  Bonded.

Atoms are tuned charge circuits.  If you understand electronics......you can understand matter.

Chemistry........is electronics.

Everything is the same thing.  Due to the singular existing entity......charge.










Title: Re: Hayseed Electron
Post by: Kryptid on 28/02/2020 23:00:47
There are so very many things wrong with that post, but this is the real kicker:

It does not bother me that you counter with modern theory and modern math.  My post are not for modern scientist.  The post is for reality thinkers.

If you weren't interested in evidence, you could have said that up front and saved us all some time.

The group that researches this has a site at commonsensescience.net   I have not been there for several years.  Click on the resources tab at site.   Go to Articles.  Go to the oldest ones first.   I can not recall the paper......but I recall it being in several of the articles.

You shouldn't expect us to do your homework for you. You made the claim that this model better matches the periodic table than quantum mechanics. It's up to you to show us the paper that demonstrates this to be the case.
Title: Re: Hayseed Electron
Post by: Bored chemist on 28/02/2020 23:09:27
Can any one tell me why I can not attach a image file? 
Given what you have posted, I'm guessing at incompetence.
  My post are not for modern scientist. 
Then you are on the wrong site.
Please post your stuff somewhere more suitable.