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Title: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 28/12/2020 06:20:28
Faggot, Spotted Dick, Toad in the Hole, Roasted Dick... Who names your dishes?
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Colin2B on 28/12/2020 08:57:11
Who names your dishes?
People who existed a long time before a certain nation started molesting the English language  ;D

Dick and dog were commonly used to mean pudding (same root as dough).
Faggot doesnít have any UK English connotations, it is either a piece of firewood or a rather tasty meat dish. Iíve never heard of toad having such a connotation, perhaps your mind is working overtime!

Dick is the only term with connotations here, probably as far back as Chaucer, but Iíve never come across roasted dick.

If it helps, you can refer to the fruit pudding that troubles you as Leicestershire Hunter Pudding or Exeter Dick.
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Bored chemist on 28/12/2020 13:12:36
The Americans have a president fart.
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: alancalverd on 28/12/2020 15:34:49
.... and lots of dishy faggots too.

Ex-Royal Navy chums still refer to tinned meat as "Fanny Adams".
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 29/12/2020 06:57:32
Toad in the hole is slang for an old-old man having sex with a girl young enough to be his great-great granddaughter.
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Colin2B on 29/12/2020 08:58:13
Toad in the hole is slang for an old-old man having sex with a girl young enough to be his great-great granddaughter.
Must be local to you, certainly not a common uk usage and certainly not around when our dish was named.
On the other hand, perhaps I should reread Wind in the Willows and look for hidden meanings!


The Americans have a president fart.
Ah, now that is an accepted historical usage for food

ďFarts (or Fertes, Fartes)
A tiny spherical titbit (OED). A Whet, or Subtelty. Early references are to spheres of light sweetened pastry, a later receipt (Huswife 1594) is of minced mutton and fruit.

The name is not a mis-reading of 'tarts', but is known from several sources, including AW 1591. They are sometimes designated 'Farts of Portingale' meaning, 'Portuguese-style'. France, too, has its own version, called 'pets-de-nonne', or 'nun's farts', a form of small, light, spherical sweet pastry sometimes more politely referred to as 'nun's puffs'.

Customs records show that in the autumn of 1480 Martin Rodkyns imported 4,000 farts from Portugal, and that 'Fertes with other subtilties' were served with hippocras at Archbishop Warham's enthronement feast in 1504. ď
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 31/12/2020 10:06:20
H food
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Bored chemist on 31/12/2020 10:13:29
Toad in the hole is slang for an old-old man having sex with a girl young enough to be his great-great granddaughter.
What if she is only young enough to be his great grand-daughter?
Do you have a special term for that?
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Petrochemicals on 02/01/2021 15:23:21
You US guys have fannies.

http://viz.co.uk/category/rogers-profanisaurus/
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: syhprum on 02/01/2021 20:33:34
Sweet fanny Adams was a young girl murdered by a crazed attorney.
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Colin2B on 02/01/2021 22:24:21
You US guys have fannies.
So do we in the uk. They are just the other side of the coin, so to speak.
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Petrochemicals on 02/01/2021 22:26:33
You US guys have fannies.
So do we in the uk. They are just the other side of the coin, so to speak.
Speak for yourself guy.
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Bored chemist on 02/01/2021 23:16:53
So do we in the uk.
About half of us do.
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Colin2B on 03/01/2021 08:57:46
You US guys have fannies.
So do we in the uk. They are just the other side of the coin, so to speak.
Speak for yourself guy.
I was of course speaking for all of us, nationally, as a population, all inclusively,  ;)
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: alancalverd on 03/01/2021 23:42:17
Now there's the difference. All Americans have fannies, but only 50% of Brits. I won't go into the difference between a fanny pack and a bum bag.
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Colin2B on 04/01/2021 09:11:59
Now there's the difference. All Americans have fannies, but only 50% of Brits.
I assume no one is talking about the diminutive of Frances! But keeping on the food theme we did have a famous TV chef called Fanny!
Also, as has been pointed out, sweet FA does have a food link due to rumour she had been chopped up and sold as meat.
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Petrochemicals on 05/01/2021 00:42:51
You US guys have fannies.
So do we in the uk. They are just the other side of the coin, so to speak.
Speak for yourself guy.
I was of course speaking for all of us, nationally, as a population, all inclusively,  ;)
I thought it maybe would catch someone out! Which brings me to another difference, we have guys and gals, where as it seems more prevalent for a group greeting on American TV to have "guys" as a non gender specific pronoun.
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Colin2B on 05/01/2021 06:38:44
we have guys and gals, where as it seems more prevalent for a group greeting on American TV to have "guys" as a non gender specific pronoun.
Yes, Iíve worked with quite a few Americans and it seems the non-gender use is pretty universal, to the point where I generally use it myself without thinking. I notice it is not common over here.
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: novicepug on 08/01/2021 03:54:16
we have guys and gals, where as it seems more prevalent for a group greeting on American TV to have "guys" as a non gender specific pronoun.
Yes, Iíve worked with quite a few Americans and it seems the non-gender use is pretty universal, to the point where I generally use it myself without thinking. I notice it is not common over here.

Very interesting. I have very seldom, if ever, used the term gals in my tongue. I have been using guys in a gender-neutral way because of habit (and somehow it also rolls the tongue better).
Title: Re: You guys have a dish called "faggot" too?
Post by: Halc on 08/01/2021 04:04:56
we have guys and gals, where as it seems more prevalent for a group greeting on American TV to have "guys" as a non gender specific pronoun.
Yes, Iíve worked with quite a few Americans and it seems the non-gender use is pretty universal, to the point where I generally use it myself without thinking. I notice it is not common over here.
Only north of the Mason-Dixie line.  A teacher moved south and asked the class to do something using 'you guys' and only the boys responded.  The proper term is y'all down there if you want to include everyone.