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Quote from: POIS-SUFFERER on 24/01/2012 22:01:25I find the Niacinamide works for me very well and this is comes without much of a flush, sometimes I feel a small one, but then again I take 1000mg... this almost gets rid of the brain fog and flu..... BUT!!!!! I need to find something to help with the DRIVE.... I have no drive, I just want to sit and do nothing, I have no enthusiasm at all.... I am self employed, I have a line up of paying contracts, I am totally out of money, so you would think you could work at these paying contracts..... nope, I can not find any motivation to do almost anything..... its very bad.....I have been reading this forum and have not noted much about fixing this part of the problem.PS.Interesting, niacin, at least for me, also fixed the drive. I've got lots of it. I don't know if that might be a difference between niacinimide and niacin or not. Also look at boosting with vitamin C and iron! See if that helps.BTW when do you take your niacinamide, one hour before as well? Did you start out with 1000mg or less, and did you try with niacin before, if so what was your dose with that (as a reference)?.
I find the Niacinamide works for me very well and this is comes without much of a flush, sometimes I feel a small one, but then again I take 1000mg... this almost gets rid of the brain fog and flu..... BUT!!!!! I need to find something to help with the DRIVE.... I have no drive, I just want to sit and do nothing, I have no enthusiasm at all.... I am self employed, I have a line up of paying contracts, I am totally out of money, so you would think you could work at these paying contracts..... nope, I can not find any motivation to do almost anything..... its very bad.....I have been reading this forum and have not noted much about fixing this part of the problem.PS.
I've tried high strength fish oils with approximately a 3:1 ratio of DHA to EPA and I took about 35 ml / day giving about 1.6g of Omega 3 / day. They had a benefit but the Krill oil seems to be working better. I'm now down to taking
I have minimal POIS symptoms anymore. I actually feel happy as I've been getting incrementally better since I started taking niacin and then figured out vit c would improve its effectiveness.However, a key component for me is vitamin c. When I feel fatigued during the day I dissolve 1/2 gram of effervescent tablet in a small glass of water and it gives me a lift.
Its highly likely a virus or a stressful experience caused havoc on my HPA axis or immune symptoms making me overreact to having an O which my body somehow takes as a threat . The other strange thing is I can't tolerate hot showers or baths. If I take a very hot shower its like POIS(similar symptoms) 2x or more for at least a week. Originally though i might have MS,but not all the symptoms match,and that's pretty much a dead end anyway as far as treatment goes,so I'm hoping if I just stay away from hot baths, and take supplements such as Acetyl-L Carnitine to help Pois I can at least live a tolerable life, if not an entirely enjoyable one.
Quote from: kurtosis on 27/01/2012 10:20:44I've tried high strength fish oils with approximately a 3:1 ratio of DHA to EPA and I took about 35 ml / day giving about 1.6g of Omega 3 / day. They had a benefit but the Krill oil seems to be working better. I'm now down to taking Thanks Kurtosis. So you took approx 1.2g/day DHA + 400mg EPA which is not so far from 1.8g, without enough benefit to take it again I guess. I'll now have less placebo effect when I'll try it myself! I'll report, if it's effective. I'm at day 7 of taking a supplement containing (daily dose:300mg DHA + 2mg vit E + 1.5mg asthaxanthin, no EPA). I felt something positive before orgasm but not enough. No effect after orgasm, I still have POIS.For the krill oil eventually it's not the Omega3 causing the good effect. Be sure to take a brand without hcb pesticides. You mentionned cod liver oil, it contains iodine and D.Quote from: kurtosis on 27/01/2012 10:20:44I have minimal POIS symptoms anymore. I actually feel happy as I've been getting incrementally better since I started taking niacin and then figured out vit c would improve its effectiveness.However, a key component for me is vitamin c. When I feel fatigued during the day I dissolve 1/2 gram of effervescent tablet in a small glass of water and it gives me a lift. Vit C gives me more energy too, but also anxiety so I can't take high doses. Nobody can tell me why, except a few articles of chinese medicine saying vitamin C is putting "cold in the kidneys", not very helpful. When I don't take vitamin C at all for 2-3 days, even from food, everything seems to go slowly, I feel very calm and libido is going up.About iron, there are multi-vit without iron. Some studies noticed iron is linked with cancer but maybe it's ok taking low doses.
Quote from: POISon on 27/01/2012 21:23:35The other strange thing is I can't tolerate hot showers or baths. Same issue here! I also cannot tolerate very hot showers. They normally make me feel very foggy / lethargic the entire day.
The other strange thing is I can't tolerate hot showers or baths.
Same issue here! I also cannot tolerate very hot showers. They normally make me feel very foggy / lethargic the entire day.
Same here!!
Quote from: PorkeSame issue here! I also cannot tolerate very hot showers. They normally make me feel very foggy / lethargic the entire day. Quote from: demografxSame here!!We may be on to something.I thought about mentioning my intolerance for hot showers when I first went on this site over a year ago,but I thought it may be just me on here that had this problem and it may not be related to POIS for most people here since I couldn't find anyone else mentioning the same problem. Glad to know I'm not alone! Whats odd is that being out on a very hot day for hours doesn't seem to be much a problem for me,but taking a 10 minute hot shower can make me miserable for days after. I'd be curious to know how many people on this forum have Pois and sensitivity to Hot showers/bath.If the majority do, this information might be of great value once we get the funds for Nord to do research.
Quote from: POISon on 28/01/2012 20:29:47Quote from: PorkeSame issue here! I also cannot tolerate very hot showers. They normally make me feel very foggy / lethargic the entire day. Quote from: demografxSame here!!We may be on to something.I thought about mentioning my intolerance for hot showers when I first went on this site over a year ago,but I thought it may be just me on here that had this problem and it may not be related to POIS for most people here since I couldn't find anyone else mentioning the same problem. Glad to know I'm not alone! Whats odd is that being out on a very hot day for hours doesn't seem to be much a problem for me,but taking a 10 minute hot shower can make me miserable for days after. I'd be curious to know how many people on this forum have Pois and sensitivity to Hot showers/bath.If the majority do, this information might be of great value once we get the funds for Nord to do research.Yes I have the same reaction to hot showers, and also hot humid summer days..... like someone zapped me with a de-energy gun!PS.
POISon,That's exactly what the surveys are going to be all about!
Quote from: POIS-SUFFERER on 28/01/2012 21:58:46Quote from: POISon on 28/01/2012 20:29:47Quote from: PorkeSame issue here! I also cannot tolerate very hot showers. They normally make me feel very foggy / lethargic the entire day. Quote from: demografxSame here!!We may be on to something.I thought about mentioning my intolerance for hot showers when I first went on this site over a year ago,but I thought it may be just me on here that had this problem and it may not be related to POIS for most people here since I couldn't find anyone else mentioning the same problem. Glad to know I'm not alone! Whats odd is that being out on a very hot day for hours doesn't seem to be much a problem for me,but taking a 10 minute hot shower can make me miserable for days after. I'd be curious to know how many people on this forum have Pois and sensitivity to Hot showers/bath.If the majority do, this information might be of great value once we get the funds for Nord to do research.Yes I have the same reaction to hot showers, and also hot humid summer days..... like someone zapped me with a de-energy gun!PS.I don't seem to have that reaction. I enjoy the hot shower or bath, it loosens my stiff muscles and wakes me up on POIS or non-POIS days. A cooler shower or swimming pool seems to help my POIS however, gemerally making me feel more alert and clearing my head a little form the fog.There is a condition called polythycemia rubra vera which is overproduction of red blood cells which makes peoples skin very sensitive to warm baths and they go very red, it can also make peole quite sluggish generally. It is in my family but i dont know if i have it, it tends to manifest in mostly men in their 50s and 60s. I will ask Dr Goldmeier about it when i see him. I wonder if it may be a factor in POIS?
I don't know who's in charge of the pledge list (B_Daniel?)- Would you please add my name for 400$?Thanks.