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Title: What is the neuroscience of lucid dreaming?
Post by: smart on 08/06/2017 10:21:41
Lucidity is a poorly defined concept in neuroscience. I'm my opinion the social matrix of human behaviors is controlling our internal lucidity while we dream. In contrast, our external lucidity is controlled by our cognitive ability to communicate. I believe it is possible to change or modify a behavior by introspection of lucid dreaming experience.
Title: Re: What is the neuroscience of lucid dreaming?
Post by: Karen W. on 28/06/2017 14:33:28
I think that there there May be some real interests in relevance in that thought, Because in my experience in lucid dreaming I have found that I have a lot more control over what's going on in the dream as far as correcting things that i was trying to remember, or things that I couldn't remember when I was awake, but going back-to sleep and going back into that same dream and having that ability to actually control it better in a lucid dream... whereas in a regular dream I have less control of where my dream goes or how I can manipulate it....unlike the control I can have in a lucid dream which seems way more controlable on  a semi concious level... I know I can problem solve in a lucid dream and or even remember something I could not remember or access in a conscious state, but in a lucid dream I can choose the direction and even change the subject to help me recall an answer for or to solve a problem I had while awake and had been at a loss to solve then, in a fully conscious state. I am less inhibited In my dream state than I am in a weak state so perhaps we are able to problem solve better because there's less stress on The sub conscious mind while asleep and or less inhabitions. Often I find when lucid dreaming that the things I have forgotten in my wakeful state, I can remember in lucid dream..like  phone numbers, or all the strange little details, like licence plate numbers, names, etc...
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Title: Re: What is the neuroscience of lucid dreaming?
Post by: smart on 28/06/2017 18:30:34
I think that there there May be some real interests in relevance in that thought, Because in my experience in lucid dreaming I have found that I have a lot more control over what's going on in the dream as far as correcting things that i was trying to remember, or things that I couldn't remember when I was awake, but going back-to sleep and going back into that same dream and having that ability to actually control it better in a lucid dream... whereas in a regular dream I have less control of where my dream goes or how I can manipulate it....unlike the control I can have in a lucid dream which seems way more controlable on  a semi concious level... I know I can problem solve in a lucid dream and or even remember something I could not remember or access in a conscious state, but in a lucid dream I can choose the direction and even change the subject to help me recall an answer for or to solve a problem I had while awake and had been at a loss to solve then, in a fully conscious state. I am less inhibited In my dream state than I am in a weak state so perhaps we are able to problem solve better because there's less stress on The sub conscious mind while asleep and or less inhabitions. Often I find when lucid dreaming that the things I have forgotten in my wakeful state, I can remember in lucid dream..like  phone numbers, or all the strange little details, like licence plate numbers, names, etc...

Thanks for sharing, Karen :)
I find this subject terribly fascinating...I suspect you are a very lucid person and that's probably the reason you may experience lucid dreaming activity. I almost never remember my dreams but I can tell that I'm actually interacting with the individuals in my dreams in the first person. Sometimes my dreams are so complex and vivid, I cannot remember anything. In specific, I believe when you're dreaming the subconscious system is activated, allowing you to experiment whatever extraordinary memories you may have in there.

Cheers!

tkadm30
Title: Re: What is the neuroscience of lucid dreaming?
Post by: smart on 30/06/2017 18:27:22
I wonder if daydreamers are lucid persons? Furthermore, the correlation between mind wandering and lucid dreaming is interesting. Perhaps the concept of psychological lucidity needs to be clarified.

Is psychological lucidity a mental capacity which can be enhanced by stimulating dreaming activity? I believe the neuroscience of lucid dreaming is pretty much equivalent to mind wandering: The "task-negative" neural network is probably activated when we experiment conscious control over our dreams.

Karen, are you able to remember your dreams? When you experiment control over your dreaming activity, are you memorizing the dream? Do you find lucid dreaming a form of psychological control over your thoughts or is the dream a form of movie?

Cheers!

tkadm30 
Title: Re: What is the neuroscience of lucid dreaming?
Post by: Karen W. on 06/07/2017 08:20:13
My mind wanders at the drop of a hat.. Like a multitasking genius but it's my brain wondering about a million miles a minute  on multiple unrelated wanderings!

Now as for my lucid dreams are like you know very very realistic and very memorable as if I just really did it.. And I recall it as if it were a real wakeful adventure or event.  that's what is so extraordinary about lucid dreaming for me.  Full color very vivid to the point of being able to reach out in my dream and actually feel the sensation of what the other person's skin feels like or the grass, or cold, hot, and even wet, and dry sensations feel exactly the same awake. This is what makes them hard for me to decipher in a truly wakeful state! I once told my ex that I did not understand why he was repeating something to me, when he knew full well we had just discussed the matter, and come to a final decision on what to do. He looked at me blankly, like I was losing my marbles, and said we did not talk about the subject at all! At that point it reminded me it was what I had dreamed about.  The whole conversation... Now a regular dream to me is rather light and fleeting less solid in form and details, it is also much, much harder to recall, even if I try remembering immediately after waking up.  It is very strange.  Now my lucid dreaming can be sort of like a movie, only complete with me as a Director. A regular dream, being like a movie also, but I feel more like the third person, as if watching from an audience, whereas in my lucid dream I have a physical body that I can feel, manipulate, and use as well for dancing,  running, or doing acrobatics and floor routines, as if I were an Olympic Athlete or something... I know this is a family site but to explain this.. My lucid dreams have also instigated sexual fulfilment in form of orgasms during the dream. Now I'm not sure if this is not much dis-similar to a boy's wet dreamor not, so it makes me think this type of dreaming is taking place in a deeper more sensitive part of the brain... A place that can be mentally stimulated to bring on physical pleasures among some of the other things we spoke of such as memory stimulation, learned stored knowledge that we have not accessed consciously for years, or long periods of time. I know if I had my druthers, I would certainly love to spend a lot more time in a lucid dream, then not! Lol... In lucid dreaming I do find more psychological control over what I am dreaming, or doing in the dream..  Whereas very little to none in a regular dream.  I used to lucid dream every night at the time my menstrual cycle was beginning... Always got hurt in my lucid dream or saw blood in full color in my dream and if I did not rise as soon as I saw blood in the dream, then I would always wake up having started my cycle in bed.. If I did not move quickly from bed to loo, then the trickle would make a mess.  Took me a couple years as a young adult to put two and two together. I never had regular cycles so mine were always hit and miss. Now at about 35 to 40 years old, I started having weird lucid dreams about having to urinate so badly, but in the dream, I continually would get sat down on a toilet, and look up and either there was a big window at the toilet, and everyone could see me, so I would jump up and run from one to the other trying to find one toilet that offered privacy, and when I finally found the perfect toilet, I would finally be able to go, and I was experiencing that wonderful relief sensation of how good it feels to empty a full bladder, when I would wake and  the bad part was, it was really happening! My search found a safe place and boom.  Away my bladder went for real. So I had to start manipulating the dream to finding the perfect toilet and then waking myself up to run to loo, before that wonderful relief feeling happened,  so that meant finishing the dream after returning to bed but minus the dream relief.. Lol sounds so stupid, but literally took me by surprise because, because before that I used to just wake up and go,  but I stopped having the sensation wake me, until I had the dream.. It was crazy!