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Title: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: ukmicky on 24/09/2005 02:43:16
The reason why I am poising this question is because their are all these people out there who are paying out lots of money to have there heads surgically removed when they die, and are then having them frozen in the hope that sometime in the future medical advances  may allow them to be brought back to life.

Now the way i see it is even if sometime in the future it does become possible to cryogenically freeze a human body or head without damaging its structure and the bring it back to life, I doubt that their would be any memories of there past or of what was learnt during there lives to make the process worthwhile.
 
But lets say in stead of freezing our heads robotic and cybernetic advances have be made which would give the head a working body so there is now no need to be frozen.
what would it take to supply life to the head and brain.
What processes would have to be artificially reproduced in order for the brain and head to function fully, and could all or most of them bodily functions that would be required be artificially reproduced today.




Thankyou
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Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: neilep on 24/09/2005 02:46:49
What a great question Michael !...I know, why don't you try it and find out ?  [:D][:D]

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Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: ukmicky on 24/09/2005 02:49:21
I'll post you a picture. hmmm that could be difficult

Michael
Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: neilep on 24/09/2005 02:49:56
...at the same time as saying that silly comment above...I admit, it's got me thinking. I reckon it would be possible to do such a thing and keep yourself a happy head !!....surely all you need to do is provide exactly the same fucnctions to and from the head that a body would perform and Hey Presto...you got Mr Head.

Great Question Michael...you should change the title of your thread it's not a stupid question at all !!........someone wake Chris up to answer this...I really want to know now....



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Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: ukmicky on 24/09/2005 03:12:29
surely all you would need to do is attach it to an oxygenated blood supply containing a few minerals.
sex would be a problem though, and maybe we would live longer

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Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: David Sparkman on 24/09/2005 03:14:38
In the not to long term you are going to need more nutriants than the heart bypass machine can supply. The liver and many other organs "doctor" our blood to keep the other parts happy. And would you really be happy if you could only look but not touch? How the girls could tease...

David
Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: neilep on 24/09/2005 03:40:28
Hey !..sex won't be a problem Michael, and David, the girls need not tease....A mouth's a mouth eh ?

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Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: ukmicky on 24/09/2005 03:40:54
Couldn't them nutrients be artifically produced and introduced into the supply of blood.

Life may be boring but to still be alive would be enough for some people, like in cases

when someone dies before there kids are born or grown up.

Plus attach it to a motorised buggy and the world is waiting,just dont look up when shopping with the ladies [:D]

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Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: neilep on 24/09/2005 04:11:17
Imagine your lifespan if you did not depend  (for the most part) on biological components !

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Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: ukmicky on 24/09/2005 04:51:38
Thats it, 200 maybe 300 years.

Imagine you could drink the same pint of lager as many times as you wished ,and not get drunk.[:(]

you could smoke to your hearts content with no fear of lung cancer.[:)]

you could eat as much as you liked and not get fat.[:)]


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Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: neilep on 24/09/2005 13:56:15
You'd have to some how control hunger and thirst though eh ?....you could have a switch !...There probably would not be a need for hunger and thirst but I suppose from a pleasure/leisure point of view it would be a nice past time !

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Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: ukmicky on 26/09/2005 03:45:31
when someone has an heart attack they pass out straight away, so may be there's a mechanism that would prevent us  gaining  conciousness if we didnt have a heart.

it would also be a bit hard to speak as the vocal cords require apassing air current to make sounds,so we would have to fit a pump as well as a heart bypass machineand a kidney dialasis machine.

As for pleasure,i suppose you would learn to live with what you've got


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Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: l_kryptonite on 26/09/2005 06:42:41
"Just ask the face of Bo".
Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: Andrew K Fletcher on 26/09/2005 08:22:58
Talk to the hand, the head's not listening :)

"The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct."
K.I.S. "Keep it simple!"
Title: Re: stupid question. How to keep ahead in life
Post by: ukmicky on 27/09/2005 00:46:07
Thanks to everyone out there in TNS land who has replied to my question.
However no one has actually answered the question, you know that one at the top of the page.
And just in case your mouse wheel has broken and you are unable to scroll the page,or maybe you've already had your head removed and have no hands to work your computer, Then read below.[:)]

The reason why I am poising this question is because their are all these people out there who are paying out lots of money to have there heads surgically removed when they die, and are then having them frozen in the hope that sometime in the future medical advances  may allow them to be brought back to life.

Now the way i see it is even if sometime in the future it does become possible to cryogenically freeze a human body or head without damaging its structure and the bring it back to life, I doubt that their would be any memories of there past or of what was learnt during there lives to make the process worthwhile.
 
But lets say in stead of freezing our heads robotic and cybernetic advances have be made which would give the head a working body so there is now no need to be frozen.
what would it take to supply life to the head and brain.
What processes would have to be artificially reproduced in order for the brain and head to function fully, and could all or most of them bodily functions that would be required be artificially reproduced today.

oyeah, and be serious people[:)]

ps Doctor Chris, as the resident brain expert your imput would be apriciated[:)]

Thankyou
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