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Quote from: Thebox on 12/02/2016 08:59:32You could have asked me, I have a deep deep understanding,Allow me to hold your coat sir, they need you up front to accept your Noble Prize.
You could have asked me, I have a deep deep understanding,
Quote from: Ethos_ on 12/02/2016 20:09:41Quote from: Thebox on 12/02/2016 08:59:32You could have asked me, I have a deep deep understanding,Allow me to hold your coat sir, they need you up front to accept your Noble Prize.Nice sarcasm.
Quote from: Thebox on 12/02/2016 20:39:55Quote from: Ethos_ on 12/02/2016 20:09:41Quote from: Thebox on 12/02/2016 08:59:32You could have asked me, I have a deep deep understanding,Allow me to hold your coat sir, they need you up front to accept your Noble Prize.Nice sarcasm.Now why on earth would anyone think I was being sarcastic?
Mostly the world disagrees with me, a logical assumption would be that the world thinks I am quite mad, so I do not think I will have so much as a pop science following , let alone any awards. However, the world as not really ever heard me say anything, maybe deep down I do not want them to listen.
Quote from: Thebox on 12/02/2016 21:58:34Mostly the world disagrees with me, a logical assumption would be that the world thinks I am quite mad, so I do not think I will have so much as a pop science following , let alone any awards. However, the world as not really ever heard me say anything, maybe deep down I do not want them to listen.Dear Sir, the honest scientist will always be just as eager to question his own views with the same degree of scrutiny he applies to those of others. Until you begin to take all pertinent evidence into consideration and learn to set aside your personal prejudice, few other individuals will be willing to reciprocate. Hear me out Mr. Box, no one here wishes you to fail. But unless you learn to consider the views of others with the same credibility that you offer your personal views, your success with others will suffer. We've all tried to communicate with you many times over. But your unwillingness to give our comments any credibility frustrates us to no end. For this reason, any success you wish to achieve with us will be very limited indeed.I would like to offer you some friendly advice, please don't feel that I'm being condescending because that is not my wish. I would truly like for us all to grow together and that includes yourself as well. So here is my advice:Place the same degree of value on what others have to say as the degree you place upon your own views. The truth will stand when nothing else will. Have a little faith in that process. When you disagree with someone else, it's incumbent upon you to provide evidence in a tactful manner. If you simply reject their views offhand, you'll only sacrifice any further growth either of you will have opportunity to gain.Take my advice into consideration my friend, I think we will all profit as a result.Sincerely................................Ethos
Mostly the world disagrees with me, a logical assumption would be that the world thinks I am quite mad,
Quote from: Thebox on 12/02/2016 21:58:34Mostly the world disagrees with me, a logical assumption would be that the world thinks I am quite mad, The symptom of madness is your disagreeing with the world.
Ask yourself this Alan, am I questioning the world and what they were taught and taught to believe and forced to accept in fear of low grades, or am I questioning the original authors?
My reasoning is because if the object remains stationary, the distance remains there whether or not the object moves.
Quote from: Thebox on 12/02/2016 23:27:46Ask yourself this Alan, am I questioning the world and what they were taught and taught to believe and forced to accept in fear of low grades, or am I questioning the original authors? This isn't about people, whose beliefs and opinions are of no great interest to either of us, but the observable world, which interests me a great deal but seems to have no impact on you at all.
Quote from: Thebox on 12/02/2016 23:27:46Ask yourself this Alan, am I questioning the world and what they were taught and taught to believe and forced to accept in fear of low grades, or am I questioning the original authors? This isn't about people, whose beliefs and opinions are of no great interest to either of us, but the observable world, which interests me a great deal but seems to have no impact on you at all. QuoteMy reasoning is because if the object remains stationary, the distance remains there whether or not the object moves.From which I deduce that your native language is Chinese. There is a famous line from a phonetic Chinese to English dictionary: "Chew" - to stand still, to gallop at full speed. Apparently the meaning depends on the context, but what if the context is "I saw a horse...."? Now we are talking Zen.
I define distance as the observed space from an observer without knowing a measurement or having a reference point B, where as length I define between two points. Would you agree with the way I define distance and length, is this a generalised description?
At a time when gravitational waves have likely been detected I think there has been enough piffle discussed. This opens up new avenues that I personally can't wait to start learning about. All other idle musings are inconsequential. Why don't we all just agree a congratulations to all the contributors.
Quote from: Thebox on 12/02/2016 23:15:41 I define distance as the observed space from an observer without knowing a measurement or having a reference point B, where as length I define between two points. Would you agree with the way I define distance and length, is this a generalised description?Actually, Webster's defines distance as; "a gap, space, or interval between two points in space or time." And length as; "the distance from end to end of a thing".And because language is the interpretive expression of what the minds imagination understands as reality, and that interpretation is rendered by majority consent, it appears to me that distance and length are quite similar. The only difference one might suggest is Webster's associates a length of something with "a thing". And most scientists agree that space is "a thing" as well. I realize you prefer to define space as nothing Mr. Box. The problem with that interpretation of reality is we've proved that space is filled with fields of many different sorts, and can not be considered as nothingness. In fact, if we remove the substance of space, you and I would probably not survive the change.It also troubles me to hear you suggest that there is somehow a conspiracy abreast. For that to be true, 99.9% of the scientific community would have to be involved. And considering how many different views are afloat out there, total collaboration would never be possible.
Quote from: jeffreyH on 13/02/2016 00:54:40At a time when gravitational waves have likely been detected I think there has been enough piffle discussed. This opens up new avenues that I personally can't wait to start learning about. All other idle musings are inconsequential. Why don't we all just agree a congratulations to all the contributors.I agree Jeff, it is becoming quite tiresome to rehash over and over with no progress in sight.................