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the other side of the mug will move at the same moment in time if I am not mistaken
The "push" travels through the mug at the speed of sound in the ceramic
You have missed my point at no time have I referred to sound only the movement of an object.
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Quote from: Bored chemist on 05/07/2021 10:11:10The "push" travels through the mug at the speed of sound in the ceramic You have missed my point at no time have I referred to sound only the movement of an object.
obviously you cant stretch out a garden hose and push one end and expect the other end to move.
That is exactly the same mechanism as the transmission of sound, and that's why it happens at the same speed.
Sound travels throw a solid much faster than it travels throw air.
The push travels through the object at the speed of sound. About 5 or 6 km/ sec in typical ceramics.
You are totally wrong as air molecules are pact less tightly than that of a solid.
And still I am not referring to the speed of sound in any case..
Yes you are. you just don't understand why you are.
so as not to stimulate any compression
So, why not stop pretending that you know more than everyone else, and start learning?
I believe that the propagation of movement is faster than the propagation of sound in a selective medium.
We live in space-time where time and space are connected and need to work as a team. Their team effort is similar to a three legged race, that attaches time and space, by one leg, so they need to coordinate their movement, to be able to move forward in time and space. This awkward three legged connection slows both of them down, with the limit of their team speed, being the speed of light. If we could separate the three legged space-time into separated space and separated time, then the speed of light is not longer the limit. The speed of light is the limit for the three legged race, but not the limit for races that involve one person running at a time. Time might be faster than space or vice or versa In either case, without the three legged connection to slow the fastest down, faster speeds become possible, for one or both. If you plug the speed of light into the three equations for Special Relativity, discontinuities appear in distance, time and mass. The three legged race is no longer in effect. As an example, human consciousness and the imagination can allow us to fly to the sun in two seconds, which should violate the speed of light. Yet my imagination can do this. There is no brain blockage due to space-time or the speed of light. I can also use my imagination to go back into time to infer the early instant of the BB, all while not moving in distance; sitting at my desk. Consciousness has the hardware in place to step out of space-time via thought and imagination. This is not the same as physically doing this with mass and matter. However, since thinking and information has no mass, that limit of mass does not apply to consciousness. All options, possible and impossible can exists in the imagination. We can build a sky scraper in an instant and then balance it on a needle before transporting it to Andromeda, all before lunch. On the other hand, only certain options are possible within space-time, since mass and matter run the show, and they set connected limits for both space and time. We may will need to slow down time and limit ourselves in space to maintain the limits crested by matter. I can imagine a bridge over the Atlantic ocean make of noodles. This is not possible in space-time. However, that odd idea now exists in time, but only in the limited space, where others have read this. Information and thought, is not under the material limits of space-time. Many scenarios can work that exceed the speed of light, using a thought matrix where space-time becomes untied. A worm hole can move matter across the universe is an instant of time. Quantum jumps can move in smaller spaces in zero time. Is this imagination, or part of a parallel universe not ruled by matter, where space and time can each run their own race? All the forces of nature; natural and unnatural create accelerations, which are d/t/t or one part distance and two parts time. This is the three legged race of space-time plus an extra time vector not restricted by space. The forces of nature are the same in all references. The forces include a vector of time, that is independent of space-time references. It is as though information is wired into the forces so they can act the same wherever they might travel; inner beat in time.
You are wrong.Let me know when something changes.
there was nothing about movement velocity only sound.
I check out this Tomas young on Wikipedia
That's because the velocity of sound is important