[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

The expected result in reply #76 wouldn't make sense according to conservation of energy, if the transmitter actually sends a single photon at a time, which then triggers the detectors.
But it makes sense if the transmitter transmit the dim light continuously, and trigger the detectors after they accumulate adequate amount of energy. That's why temperature of the detectors affects the detection rate.

The main difference between my hypothesis and photon model is where the randomization occurs.

My hypothesis asserts that the randomization occurs at the detector. Light energy received by the detector will either be reflected, absorbed, or transmitted. Absorbed light will be transformed into other forms of energy, like heat, light at different frequency, chemical reaction, electron ejection, etc. which can be sensed by detector.

In photon model, randomization occurs at the transmitter, as well as beam splitter. Many pop-sci articles presented that the event when  a detector is triggered simply means a photon has been captured, with no room for uncertainty. AFAIK, it is affected by environmental condition, such as temperature, cosmic ray, interference of electromagnetic wave, and electrical potential applied to the detector.

[Bored chemist]

My hypothesis asserts that the randomization occurs at the detector.

So does everyone else's.
The specifications for photo-detectors often include "quantum yield".

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[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

So does everyone else's.

I wish everyone knew it.
Unfortunately, we can find many science communicators presented this in a way which may misled their audiences, like this video.
 

To be fair, he also mentioned uncertainty on the detector and cosmic ray effect in another video. Although it doesn't seem to affect the conviction that light energy is quantified from the start.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

I'm sorry for missing this question.

Re: Is there a better way to explain light?
« Reply #59 on: Today at 17:28:00 »

What will happen if we fire a single photon at a 50% reflective mirror sorry for my poor knocked up diagram. Will the single photon become two? [ Invalid Attachment ]

Some sources assert that the photon has 50% chance of being reflected, and 50% chance of being transmitted. So in any instance, one photon in, one photon out.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

The super bizarre quantum eraser experiment

Here's an alternative explanation which is less bizarre.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

For many of us, the behavior of light is thought to have been fully understood by modern scientific theories.  Introductory physics textbooks only mention a few experiments and theories that made historical paradigm shifts in science. It's understandable due to the limited space they have. The cost is the lost of acknowledgement of competing hypotheses which were supposed to be resolved by experiments, which might make our understanding on the subject incomplete. The article below shows some experimental results forming our current understanding on behavior of light.

https://www.academia.edu/37682307/Einsteins_reinterpretation_of_the_Fizeau_experiment_How_it_turned_out_to_be_crucial_for_special_relativity?email_work_card=view-paper

[puppypower]

If you look at light; photon, it travels at the speed of light, yet it does not show a space-time reference shift of its wavelength and frequency all the way to the  point-instant one would expect of velocity at the speed of light; special relativity. If we substituted a space ship of length L, to define a given wavelength=L and made it travel at the speed of light, its original size would not perpetuate in our reference. We would see a distance contraction. Yet light or photons can perpetuate its size; wavelength, even at the speed of light. All wavelength, which is a finite property, should appear compressed to point-instants at the speed of light, but this is not observed.

This tells me that light exists in two separate references, at the same time; speed of light and local inertial reference; two legs. Light can be influenced by a gravitational field causing either red or blue shift depending on the direction. It can also be impacted by special relativity, if released by a moving object; Doppler shift. Yet these actions do not impact the speed of light. It only impacts the inertial leg of the photon, that acts independently of its speed of light leg.

Light is like a bridge state between all universal inertial references and the single speed of light reference. The question is what is the impact of the speed of light reference? In Special Relativity, is we input c or the speed of light into the three equations for mass, distance and time, discontinuities appear in mass, distance and time. There is no mass and space-time breaks down at the speed of light  This means E=MC2 does not apply at the speed light since there is zero mass there. One will not get energy to mass conversion so velocity does not change. 

The dissociation of space-time results in time and space becoming disconnected allowing one to travel in time without the constraint of space and/or travel in space without the constraint of time. This causes the photon have eternal wavelength and frequency unless acting upon by inertial properties.

In the speed of light reference, since time and space are not connected, the constraints we call the laws of physics do not apply in all cases. More things can happen than are expected from space-time alone. This is a state of infinite entropy; complexity. If you move in time apart from space at the same time you move in space apart from time, anything is possible. This state of infinite entropy is the drive behind the second law. It has an impact on our inertial universe; our universe increases entropy. This potential should also impact light. 

An entropy increase is endothermic and absorbs energy. Since the entropy of the universe has to net increase over time, that means our universe is bleeding energy into entropy states, which cannot be net used again, or else the second law is not valid. This loss of light energy can be understood as energy going into complexity that cannot get simple again in any net way. For example, the building of the atoms of the periodic table caused energy loss, into entropy. The atoms do not go backwards in spontaneous way because the entropy increase does not net reverse. It tied up entropic based energy, that is not net retrievable. Spinning particle at the smallest levels are perpetual sources of net irreversible entropic energy.

Light is like a bridge that spans the speed of light reference with our inertial universe. This bridge  is also like a moving sidewalk that pulls energy toward the speed of light reference; 2nd law and universal red shift. This energy is conserved via states of entropic information. Information type energy does not follow the same laws as the inertial states of energy since this energy cannot be retrieved as energy These information states are conserved within the irreversible complexity of matter and their information base helps to define the laws of physics. The actions of matter is dependant on their current state of irreversible complexity.

 

[Bored chemist]

When someone taught you that it was good to show your references, they did not mean this

space-time referenc

t perpetuate in our reference.

light exists in two separate references

inertial reference; two legs

universal inertial references

single speed of light reference.

speed of light reference

speed of light reference

light reference with our inertial universe.

speed of light reference; 2nd law and universal red shift.

You keep using phrases like that, but you never say what they are meant to mean.

[puppypower]

Let me explain these various references. Inertial references exist everywhere where the concept of space-time applies. This is where mass can also exist. The speed of light reference is where space-time breaks down into separated space and time that can act independently of each other. One can move in space without any time requirement such as a quantum jump or a worm hole. Or one can move in time without the constraint of space. This is more connected to information such as what makes the laws of physics the same in all inertial references. There is no space constraint in terms of action and reaction in time; universal laws the same in all inertial references.

Photons or light exist in a reference state between these two extreme references. Photon move at the speed of light. However, photons are part of space-time. They can maintain finite wavelength or red/blue shift. The photon reference states can be considered a bridge state between the two extreme references.

If we assume the inertial universe; singularity, starts from nothing it it would need to appear from the speed of light reference; where space-time does not initial apply therefore the law of physics are difference. The creation of mass, which firmed up space-time, sets a potential with the speed of light reference. This origin potential is the basis for gravity as well as all the forces of nature.

The forces of nature are based on accelerations, which has the units of d/t/t. Dimensionally, this amounts to space-time; d-t plus time; t, with the extra time, beyond space-time connected to the speed of light reference. This second time vector is not dependent on space. It is part of the laws of nature that are common through the universe, which help to coordinate the evolution of the universe. This model does not use separated forces, but integrates this via the time potential from the c-reference, to explain all the forces as one thing. 

This model may be too integrated for those who are used to something more dissociated. That is an artifact of space-time being defined apart from the speed of light reference. The standard models do not define a true c-reference so they can make use to its theoretical advantages. Without that true c-reference everything appears to be detached without any integrating principle to make it simple.

The speed of light reference is also a state of infinite entropy since with space and time dissociated more things are possible since the limitations of space-time do not apply. This is the drive for the 2nd law in terms of all inertial references. This universal increase in entropy is  mediate through the bridge state of energy/light, since an entropy increase needs to absorb energy. While the second law also implies that the universe is bleeding energy into ever increasing entropy that is not net reversible. This energy is conserved but not in a way that is directly useable by the inertial universe. This state of entropic energy is more connected to informational states of complexity that exist and perpetuate; particle spin for example. We cannot stop all spin to retrieve this stored energy; this energy is not available as free energy but is being conserved closer to the c-reference.

The expansion of the universe is connected to the 2nd law since by speeding up time, through expanding space-time, the rate of entropy increase speeds up, thought the entire universal; inertial universe move back to c-reference faster.

The speed of light reference created the inertial universe and after that the inertial universe  started to head back to the speed of light reference; expanding and creation of photons via the forces of nature. It is also reflected in mass burn; stars, since mass cannot exist at c-reference but has to first change into the bridge state of energy; E=MC2.

The c-referenrce provides all the missing links needed to simplify the universe. 

[Bored chemist]

The speed of light reference is where space-time breaks down into separated space and time

Who breaks it?

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Or one can move in time without the constraint of space.

What does it mean?
Can something stay at its position for a long time?  From which frame of reference?

[Bored chemist]

Or one can move in time without the constraint of space.

What does it mean?
Can something stay at its position for a long time?  From which drame of reference?

There is seldom any point in either trying to work out what PuppyPower means, or asking him.
His posts are simply not logical.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

Has quantum mechanics proved that reality does not exist?

In the past years you may have seen headlines claiming that objective reality does not exist because some quantum mechanics experiment has shown it. In this video I explain what this is all about and why this experiment doesn't show that reality doesn't exist.

0:00 Intro
0:51 Wigner's friend
5:03 The Extended Wigner's Friend Scenario
8:18 The experiment that shows reality doesn't exist
9:12 What does it mean?
10:04 Sponsor message

I prefer explanation which doesn't suggest that reality does not exist.

[hamdani yusuf (OP)]

The videos below summarize the historical progress of theory of light.

In this part, we will explore how the corpuscular theory of light and the wave theory of light would each have their own champions and compete for ultimate success.  We will discuss the contributions made by the likes of Bernoulli, Young and Fresnel