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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: jsaldea12 on 30/03/2019 02:40:11
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Consolidated Empirical evidences disprove black holes
(Open letter to NASA, and other respected astronomical societies, especially, EHT)
There are super-galaxies that expel pair super-jets on both opposite sides of the super-galaxies..Why in pair? because, these jets are inseparable positive and negative, or north pole and south pole , like earth, sun, in keeping with the inherent universal law of the universe ,re- all matters, upon materialization, re- galaxies, stars, planets, etc. have indivisible positive and negative. In short, the jets are testimony that the core is not black hole, is just a large dense object, with inseparable one side positive and the opposite side negative, like earth, like sun, like neutron star with inherent self-dividing positive and negative property of the law of the universe **.. Further, the dense object, supposed black hole has no singularity where positive and negative are merged completely into one. (The calculation that if mass of earth is converted to black hole, the black hole would shrink the size of pingpong???ridiculous). The dead middle of positive and negative of bar magnet has gravitational attraction neutralized, thus, without gravitational attraction, where does the supposed black hole gets its supra-gravitational attraction/force to lock billions and probably trillion of stars.. Also, the ejected pair of super- jets have supra- temperature, reaching, 30 trillion Celsius, is hotter than the surface of the supposed black hole and EH, disproving the contention that the source of jets come from the surface, Further, these super-jets are propelled into space at the speed of light, means there is supra-gravitational compression from the interior of the core to eject super- jets to stretch several hundred thousand light years in space, this is also one evidence that the jets of dust and gas escapes supposed black hole.
The dust and gas that completely envelop supposed black hole comes from the deep interior of core of galaxies,, like earth, the sun. The core of super-galaxies is liken to boiling water that evaporates, in like manner, the super-heat deep interior of core extend to the surface, boiling up to the surface, that evaporates dust and gas outward. This gas and dust that covers entirely the core. Accretion of dust and gas from outside space contributes but that gas and dust cover up entirely the core means its large source is the core, itself.. As observed: “,A combination of gravitational and electromagnetic forces sprays hot gas away from the giant black hole.This system has similarities to how a water fountain powered by gravity works.The new result is based on combined data from Chandra, ALMA, and the Very Large Telescope”.
The light of quasars that travel 13 billion light years to reach earth is indisputable evidence that its source is super-powerful, only the core is capable of producing, and only secondly, it carries the image of the lighted dust and gas to earth.. Dust and gas, by themselves, do not create light, has weakened strength and cannot reach earth.
The core is invisible because light, by inherent nature, can only contact the surface, the surface of covering gas and dust, cannot penetrate inside, that is why the core is invisible, black hole? but all other elecro-magnetic spectrum, X-ray, radio waves, ultra-violet ray, etc. can penetrate the gas and dust. What did that unnamed astrophysicist of UCLA observed, something like this:, “detected is the object inside but it is not the traditional black hole that light cannot escapes but whatever matter from outside comes close to the core will be sucked, never to come out.
What is a generator? It is an electro-magnetic machine that uses magnetism to produce electricity. In other words, gravity/gravitational attraction and light are inseparable one, like coin with two sides. Both gravity and light are waves or ripples of space time. Both have electro-magnetic property. Both travel at speed of light . Thus, the stronger the gravitational force, the greater the light it produces: It is not written of the Law that the light produced by the gravitational attraction, it will suck such light back unto itself.
The presented complex computation of temperature of black hole is unconceivable. For instance, Sagittarius A (core) is 4,000,000 solar mass, the astronomical computed temperature is 30 TRILLION colder than outer space??. There are black holes with mass of over 1 billion solar mass. . Such computation tests common sense because all computations is pegged at absolute zero temperature. of -273 C. More significant, that the computation of collapsed black hole is based on escape velocity of earth, Gravity Constant, mass, speed of light, ,CMBR... It is brilliant but the basis of computation is anchored on escape velocity of matter (spaceship) on earth. But light and gravity are massless, not matter!. Both are waves of spacetime, Thus wherever there is gravity, there is built-in light..
The Hawking Radiation is based on pair of popping virtual particle due to vacuum fluctuation of fabric of spacetime of which half pair, re-positive, goes inside the EH and the other half pair, re-negative, is ejected outside the EH, to outer space, is wrong. Virtual particle is real particle with inseparable positive and negative, in keeping with the Law of the universe. Thus, either the whole particle goes to black hole or expelled out. ..
In conclusion, there is no black hole ,,just a super dense giant object in outer space..
jose s. aldea
Physicist
Philippine Copyright 2019
By jose S. aldea
** Cut and cut a bar magnet into smaller cuts, and see each cut bar self-divides into positive and negative
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NASA isn't going to be any more interested in this than any of you previous posts. It's the same kind of anti-science thinking as usual.
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Please do let delete my post, re-Consolidated empirical evidences disprove black h"ole. Are we not after the truth? Then let me continue. It took some century to know whether there is black hole or not. Dr. Einstein is right. He was referring to REGION IN SPACE where gravitational force is strong. It is not black hole. Please le me continue and let us know the truth. jsa 3.30.19
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Re jose s. aldea Physicist
Tempted to ask "is this cosmobabble"?
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Like many other uninformed laymen you are confusing electromagnetism and gravitation. Until you can understand the distinction in a meaningful way you are going to impress no one. Especially not NASA. Writing a critique of your idea is pointless since you are likely too stubborn to perceive your errors. This thread may well be headed to new theories if it becomes too unhinged.
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Why in pair?
Conservation of momentum and of angular momentum.
because, these jets are inseparable positive and negative, or north pole and south pole , like earth, sun, in keeping with the inherent universal law of the universe ,re- all matters, upon materialization, re- galaxies, stars, planets, etc. have indivisible positive and negative. In short, the jets are testimony that the core is not black hole, is just a large dense object, with inseparable one side positive and the opposite side negative, like earth, like sun, like neutron star with inherent self-dividing positive and negative property of the law of the universe
No, none of that.
It's just the conservation laws.
. (The calculation that if mass of earth is converted to black hole, the black hole would shrink the size of pingpong???ridiculous).
Ridiculous things happen quite a lot in physics.
The presented complex computation of temperature of black hole is unconceivable. For instance, Sagittarius A (core) is 4,000,000 solar mass, the astronomical computed temperature is 30 TRILLION colder than outer space??.
No, you missed out an important word there.
it's 30 trillion TIMES colder,
Such computation tests common sense because all computations is pegged at absolute zero temperature. of -273 C
So the CMBR is about 3 kelvin and this is about a tenth of a trillionth of a kelvin.
That's cold, but not a problem mathematically.
You seem to think we are subtracting 30 trillion from the temperature- which would be impossible.
But we are dividing.
This was already explained to you.
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Please do let delete my post,
Why do you post that?
Deleting people's posts is not something this forum does (unless the post is obscene or some such).
Your post is still here
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=76584.msg571356#msg571356
It's wrong, but nobody has deleted it.
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Re jose s. aldea Physicist
Tempted to ask "is this cosmobabble"?
Yes.
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Are we not after the truth?
Yes and LIGO found that truth when it detected gravitational waves from merging black holes.
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All matters, once materialize, come in pair positive and negative. This is the law of the universe and in it is conservation law. There is no such thing as monopole..jsa 3.4.19
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This is the law of the universe and in it is conservation law.
That's something you made up.
There is no such thing as monopole.
And individual electron is an electric monopole.
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Can we have light from bulb without positive and negative.? Thus, i is not true that onlynegative electrons pass through electrical wire.jsa 4.5.19
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Kindly answer:More significant, that the computation of collapsed black hole is based on escape velocity of earth, Gravity Constant, mass, speed of light, ,CMBR... It is brilliant but the basis of computation is anchored on escape velocity of matter (spaceship) on earth. But light and gravity are massless, not matter!. Both are waves of spacetime, Thus wherever there is gravity, there is built-in light. Thus the basis of computation on matter (escape velocity) appears not correct. jsas 4.4.19.
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Can we have light from bulb without positive and negative.? Thus, i is not true that onlynegative electrons pass through electrical wire.jsa 4.5.19
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about a single, individual electron.
But light and gravity are massless, not matter!
Light is attracted by gravity. Gravitational lensing demonstrates this.
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Thus the computation of mass of earth converted to mass of black hole appears not correct. jsa 4.5.19
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Thus the computation of mass of earth converted to mass of black hole appears not correct.
What does that even mean?
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It means to use the computation of black hole of which light cannot escape of strong gravitational force based on matter is not right because light and gravitational force are not matter, both are function of waves of function of spacetime, jsa 4.4.19
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It means to use the computation of black hole of which light cannot escape of strong gravitational force based on matter is not right because light and gravitational force are not matter, both are function of waves of function of spacetime, jsa 4.4.19
Light falls towards a source of gravity just as quickly as matter does. This was demonstrated to be the case when gravitational lensing by the Sun was observed in 1919.
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Thus, i is not true that onlynegative electrons pass through electrical wire
It is true.
Just saying it isn't won't change that fact.
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Can we have light from bulb without positive and negative.? Thus, i is not true that onlynegative electrons pass through electrical wire.jsa 4.5.19
Thus demonstrating that electricity is another thing you do not understand.
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The Event Horizon Telescope team has announced a big Event coming over the Horizon next week - a press conference.
If they have managed to take a picture of the Event Horizon around the Milky Way's supermassive black hole, will you believe it then?
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_Horizon_Telescope
...but presumably you should see it in most forms of news the day after the press conference!
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Reiterating, do try to understand: because it has been written for a long time, it is correct?. UNLESS THERE IS POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE. THERE IS NO TV, RADIO, LIGHT!!! Positive and negative are directional. Point it to the right, it is positive, point it the left, it is negative. Cut and cut a bar magnet into smaller cuts, and NOTE THE SMALLER CUTS SELF-DIVIDE INTO POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE. THESE ARE FACTS AND REALITY. BELIEVE IT BECAUSE YOUR EYES CAN FOLLOW IT AS THE SMALLER CUTS SELF-DIVIDE AUTOMATICALLY INTO POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE. AS i SAID READ MY ARTICLE: WHY GRAVITY OF EARTH IS ALL ATTRACTION, NO REPULSION" REGARDS. jsa 4/5/19
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Typing in all caps doesn't increase how correct you are (and you're wrong because individual electrons are electric monopoles).
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Nsft: Typing in all caps doesn't increase how correct you are (and you're wrong because individual electrons are electric monopoles).
Jsa: Electrons are fundamental particles? Particles when they manifest into matter obey the universal law of the universe: possess inseparably positive and negative which behavior is directional. On one electrical wire the direction of electrons are negative and on the opposite electrical wire, the direction is positive. When these two wires meet, electrical bulb lights! It is like that.. Electrons are monopole in that in it both positive and negative . But it is not monopole in the context that it is a particle that is all positive or a particle that is all negative. There is no such monopoles . Regards. Jsa 4.5.19
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Cut and cut a bar magnet into smaller cuts, and NOTE THE SMALLER CUTS SELF-DIVIDE INTO POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE
This is because a magnet is a collection of dipoles. Cut it in half and you have a (smaller) collections of dipoles.
Particles when they manifest into matter obey the universal law of the universe: possess inseparably positive and negative
Electrons however are monopoles. Take a collection of electrons and divide it into two parts, and it still has a negative charge.
Collision of electrons at even the highest energies show no internal structure to the electron - there is no internal positive and negative.
On one electrical wire the direction of electrons are negative and on the opposite electrical wire, the direction is positive. When these two wires meet, electrical bulb lights!
In an electrical circuit made of copper wires, the negative electrons always head towards the positive terminal. They don't suddenly change direction when they hit a light bulb.
However, there is a scenario where charge carriers travel in opposite directions to produce light, and that is in a LED.
A LED is made of two types of semiconductors:
- "n-type", where the charge is carried by negative electrons, attracted towards the positive terminal
- "p-type", where the charge is carried by positive "holes", attracted towards the negative terminal
- so they travel in opposite directions
- when they meet, an electron falls into a hole, releasing energy in the form of a photon.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light-emitting_diode_physics#Electroluminescence
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Point it to the right, it is positive, point it the left, it is negative.
Take an electron, it's negative.
Point it to the left, it's negative; point it to the right it's still negative.
Do you understand that fact?
Also, please try to use the quote function.
It makes it much easier for others to follow what you are trying to say.
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Electrons are monopole in that in it both positive and negative . But it is not monopole in the context that it is a particle that is all positive or a particle that is all negative.
Electrons have a net negative charge so that makes you wrong. That is something that we know from experimental evidence.
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On one electrical wire the direction of electrons are negative and on the opposite electrical wire, the direction is positive. When these two wires meet, electrical bulb lights!
In this speculative theory of electricity, I am wondering how it represents the flow of electrons in a circuit with two light bulbs in series?
- In particular, what is flowing in the copper wire between the two light bulbs?
- Is it electrons traveling in a positive direction, or in a negative direction, or not flowing at all?
- And if they are not flowing at all, how can a light bulb light up? Surely it will just fill up with electrons, and repel any further electrons from entering?
- What if there are 3 light bulbs in series? Do these intermediate wires contain 1/3 electrons travelling in a positive direction, and 2/3 traveling in a negative direction?
Science can help you avoid these nonsensical conclusions, because in reality, there is a flow of negative electrons in a single direction around the circuit, from the negative terminal of the battery towards the positive terminal of the battery.
- In a circuit with multiple lights in series, each of the copper wires carries an identical current of electrons, traveling in the same direction.
These descriptions of the behavior of DC (Direct Current) circuits should not be confused with the behavior of AC (Alternating Current) circuits, where the polarity of the electrical supply changes 100 or so times every second. In the AC case, the electrons travel a short distance in one direction, and then reverse and travel a short distance in the other direction. But at any given point in time, the electrons in all the copper wires are traveling in the same direction, from the negative terminal to the positive terminal.
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Cut and cut a bar magnet into smaller cuts, and NOTE THE SMALLER CUTS SELF-DIVIDE INTO POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE.
Actually, after a while (once you get beyond a critical size) they don't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_domain
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The first revealed picture of a black hole has only reinforced the fact that they exist. Here are some simulated images of what the black hole at the center of M87 was expected to look like based on relativistic physics: https://www.eso.org/public/images/akiyama_m87/
Now compare those to the actual picture that was acquired: http://time.com/5566225/first-black-hole-picture-photo/
So the predictions based on existing physics knowledge were spot-on. Unlike your prediction that the object at the center of these galaxies should be a brightly-glowing, super-hot object, the object photographed is actually very dark. It's much darker than the ring of light around it.