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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: jsaldea12 on 07/02/2010 02:55:52
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Will an electro-magnetic light from a background galaxy or star bend by attraction gravity of Newton, re-positive to negative attraction, when passing behind the gravitational field of the sun? (Pls. refer to posted “Why gravity is all attraction toward earth?”)
The answer is yes. Electro-magnetic light will be attracted by the electro-magnetic gravitational field of sun and will be bent, bent jointly and on the skein of electro-magnetic spacetime of Dr. Einstein. Electro-magnetic light would not have reach and contact electro-magnetic eyes and brain if there is no medium, the equally electro-magnetic property of spacetime, on which equally electro-magnetic waves of light propagates.
Even Dr. Einstein, in a speech in 1920, revived and accepted the existence of ether, which is, actually, no different from spacetime which has electro-magnetic property on which electro-magnetic light propagates.
Electro-magnetic light cannot escape stronger electro-magnetic gravitational field of black hole.
Jsaldea12
2.7.10.
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In matters of both food and words, I prefer meat over salad.
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Attraction gravity of Newton and spacetime gravity of Dr. Einstein are like two sides in one coin: both intersect one another inherently.
Jsalldea12
2.8.10. .
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Uh huh. Have you got any equations to demonstrate this?
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All manifestations in this universe, matter, particles, quarks, including spacetime, have two intrinsic sides: positive and negative, the governing law of the universe. As stated in physics: like repulse, unlike attract. There is no such thing as monopole. It is as simple as that.
jsaldea12
2.8.10
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So then why is nothing ever gravitationally repelled?
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Nothing which is not nothing, referring to skein of spacetime, must have been the make up of outer space,. with as one intersecting positive and negative property .but when activated by orbits of stars, planets, by their locked gravitational fields, the. positive and negative separate from one another, aligns to another, re-positive to negative. Here is an illustration: cut and cut and cut a bar magnet and in each cut bar is positive and negative side. Positive and negative intersects one another as one.
Here is another illustration: cut and cut into smaller pieces a bar magnet, then throw all the cut bars together. The positive sides of the cut bars seek the negative sides of other cut bars, and when negative sides meets negative, both sides repulse until positive meets negative and bind. That is how it is was in suspended outer space…how creation was made, without such binding, no galaxies, stars, planets would have been formed.
Jsaldea12
2.9.10. .
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Yes, you'll notice that when you bring the magnets closer the one you're not holding will flip around and then become attracted. So why has this never been observed with stellar objects?
And if that's how the Earth orbits the Sun for example, then the sun would have to repel the moon.
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That question has deeper implication. It is like asking the question “Why is gravity all attraction toward earth? Attraction gravity is supra weak, but ti can be approximate in bar magnet. In bar magnet, the strongest force is at both ends and the weakest force is at the middle, the shorter the length, the weaker is attraction, but at the perfect middle, both positive and negative becomes one, neutral but not monopole. .On surface of earth, the positive and negative property are almost at the shortest length but aligned toward the center of earth. Because both positive and negative are closest, attraction gravity is supra-weak but ambivalent, with attraction always prevails, the positive and negative property of earth dexterily binds the negative and positive property, respectively, of all moving objects on surface of earth toward the center of earth which has no gravity!, like the perfect middle of bar magnet.. Such extremely short length of attraction gravity, in gargantuan suspended bodies in outer space, like the earth and the moon, extends outer space and binds, with dexterity, their gravitational fields Thus, there is no need for earth and moon to flip, like cut bar magnet, to bind because on all over surface of both suspended bodies, there is positive and negative. Motion keeps the moon at bay to earth and earth to the sun, and sun to Milky Way..
Jsaldea12
2.8.10
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Nope, sorry, I don't understand.
Are you saying that the surface of earth both positively and negatively gravitationally attracts and repels the moon? Wouldn't the negative effects cancel the positive, i.e. have a sum of no attraction?
I am not aware of any observation of gravitational repulsion - are you? If you are, please let us know. If you aren't, doesn't it call your hypothesis into question somewhat?
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Almost on same level on surface of earth is its positive and negative property as attraction gravity is of supra short, billion times weaker than magnet, because both are almost at level. Such supra-weak attraction gravity cannot be felt by human on earth, but on gargantuan level, such supra-weak attraction gravity, like earth and the moon, such gravity is in FULL force, thus can be felt wholly as real, that bind extension gravitational fields of both bodies, as follows: the ambivalent positive and negative property of earth seeks and connects the negative and positive property of moon, and in like manner, the negative and positive property of moon seeks and binds the positive and negative property of earth, like cut-bar magnets. Because, the positive seeks the negative, there is no repulsion. This is how the galaxies, stars, planets were formed.
Why only one side of the moon faces earth? It is like the constructed coin magnet wherein only one side has both positive and negative, and the opposite side has no magnet. When two such coins are brought together, the positive seeks the negative, and the negative seeks the positive of one another coin and bind! Such, too, is how the moon is only one side facing earth. Most of its positive and negative are on such side facing earth. This is an evidence that it is the real attraction gravity that binds the gravitational fields of moon and earth. But the binding is performed on the skein of spacetime of Dr. Einstein, thus both gravity, re-force attraction of Newton and the no-force gravity of Dr. Einstein operate as one.
Jsaldea12
2.10.10
Jsaldea12
2.10.10.
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I'm still not entirely sure I understand. You seem to be saying that humans don't feel any gravity because it's too week, but that one side of the moon is attracted to Earth like a magnet - somehow it doesn't matter that the earth rotates beneath the moon - one side of the moon is attracted to all 'sides' of the earth.
To be honest, this sounds like nonsense to me.
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I second that motion :p
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We cannot feel attraction gravity because it is too weak and because we get use to it. But when we see millions of tons of sea wateron earth being raised whenever the moon s overhead, we know, elementary, the gravitational field of the moon sucks/pulls and raises the electrically-conducive salty sea water on earth., thus, on gargantuan level, like giant suspended bodies in outer space, like the earth and moon, both bodies feel physically the force of attraction gravity.
Only one side of the moon is facing earth because most of the positive and negative property are concentrated on that side, like the stated one-side coin, thus, attraction gravity is stronger at that side facing earth. (this was shown when man sent man to the moon, the landing was off by some 6 miles because the center of gravity of the moon is that off center but closer facing earth).
Unlike earth where the distribution of positive and negative is almost very even all over surface of earth, that is why we weigh much the same anywhere, thus, as the one-side moon orbits earth, earth rotates every 24 hours evenly, implicating just how balance is the distribution of attraction gravity on surface of earth..
Jsaldea12
2.11.10
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But when we see millions of tons of sea wateron earth being raised whenever the moon s overhead, we know, elementary, the gravitational field of the moon sucks/pulls and raises the electrically-conducive salty sea water on earth., thus, on gargantuan level, like giant suspended bodies in outer space, like the earth and moon, both bodies feel physically the force of attraction gravity.
And bodies of fresh water?
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Fresh water from fresh body of water, re-large lakes, wide river, are raised by gravitational force exerted by the moon but comparably low, compared to raised electro-magnetic inducer salty sea water.
Jsaldea12
2.11.10
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Any evidence for this assertion?
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The raise of fresh water body on earth by the locked attraction gravity with the moon is slight, to a point that it is utterly unnoticeable. Why? because it is fluid. not matter. Because earth, and everything on it, is locked, being pulled/sucked, by the moon. .
Jsaldea12
2.18.10.
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Water isn't matter now?
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I mean solid matter.
jsaldea12
2.18.10
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It's just plain ridiculous to say that freshwater isn't as gravitationally attracted as saltwater. Do you really think this would have gone unnoticed by generations of physicists? Do you have any evidence for this ridiculous claim?
You know most comets are made of water, but they seem to be effected by gravity in exactly the same way as an object made of metal, rock, cheese, or fairy floss.
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Salty water is good conductor of electro-magnetism, fresh water is not but it conducts in much lesser manner than salty water. We need electrolyte, re-with salt, when we de-hydrate because fresh water is poor conductor of electricity.
But your bringing up comet tail, composed of water, is new and has deeper implication.. Do we know what?.
Jsaldea12
2.19.10
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Do we know what?.
Can you be more specific?
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Light makes the water tail of comet , which can be million of miles long, visible, bright. What comes to mind is, if outer space, spacetime, is curled, rippled by objects, like sun and earth, such million length brightened tail of comet would have been wavy, not as seen, straight,, as such tail is sensitive as to even follow the flow of solar wind. .
Jsaldea12
2.19.10..
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Jsaldea12 - do you accept that your hypothesis may be wrong based on the observations pointed out by Madidus_Scientia?
Are you willing to entertain the prospect that you are, in fact, incorrect?
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If matter, like earth and sun curl/ripple spacetime, such ripple, curling can be detected in that million length tail of comet, if there is, it could make the tail wavy, too, follow too, become curling but there is none..
unless the curl/ripple of spacetime is of short length that it cannot be detected.
Attraction gravity, positive to negative, binds that million length tail. Water has positive and negative property.
jsaldea12
2.19.10
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Is that a "no"?
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... I am willing to entertain that I can be wrong ... We are all just human beings.
This comet is good ground for research. One thing I am sure of is the tail, though ionized and state of coma are grouping, composed of positive and negative, evidence of of attraction gravity.
jsaldea12
2.20.10
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... I am willing to entertain that I can be wrong ... We are all just human beings.
I'm pleased to hear it. The idea of a discussion forum is that we can all learn from one another. If someone doggedly sticks to their pet hypothesis despite evidence to the contrary, it's like talking to a brick wall.
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"Jsaldea12 - do you accept that your hypothesis may be wrong based on the observations pointed out by Madidus_Scientia?"
But I agree with peer Madidus_Scientia. there is magnetism in water, fresh. That is why the tail of comet is still grouping,with linked, even at the length is 150 million miles tail!! before the tail separate.If there is no attraction, the tail cannot sustain such length.
"Are you willing to entertain the prospect that you are, in fact, incorrect?" To err is human.
Regards,
jsaldea12
2.22.10
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Fresh water is gravitationally attracted, (positive to negative), just as earth and everything on it is gravitationally attracted, pulled by the moon. …though human beings cannot feel the pull of the moon, it is there..This is concrete example of Newton definition of gravity. To my peer, I did not say that fresh water is not gravitationally attracted.
Can I be wrong? Yes, to err is human. we are just that.
Jsaldea12
2.22.10
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No, but you said it would be less gravitionally attracted than salt water. That does not match observation.
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This is good: let me know what you know.
By the way, given a little more research, I shall be revealing the real culprit what is this repulsive force of cosmological constant. It is neither dark matter nor dark energy.
jsaldda12
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