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New Theories / Re: Who is the author of the theory of tidal resonance?
« on: 16/08/2018 09:15:08 »Who can give a reference to the theory of tidal resonance.See answer #2. Read it and try to understand it, then you will be able to find numerous references.
PS Hint: don’t try looking in any 1902 encyclopaedias
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New Theories / Re: On what theory was the Chinese calendar of the tides of 1100 formed
« on: 16/08/2018 09:00:40 »But I would guess it was based on the moon.You might think so, but the Chinese calendar was lunisolar - based on measurements of the phases of the moon, but also on the position of the sun in the sky. It’s not that unusual, ancient Babylonians, Greeks and Israelites all used a variant of this type of calendar.
There’s known to have been a lunisolar calendar in China since at least the Shang Dynasty, around the 14thC BC, but the Republic of China adopted the Western Gregorian calendar on 1st Jan 1912, as an attempt to break away from the authority of the emperor.
One interesting thing about the lunisolar is that is makes tides easier to predict
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New Theories / Re: On what theory was the Chinese calendar of the tides of 1100 formed
« on: 15/08/2018 22:49:52 »
Got a link?
As you specifically ask for 1100
But I would guess it was based on the moon.
http://www.chinesehsc.org/chinese_calenders.shtml
As you specifically ask for 1100
But I would guess it was based on the moon.
http://www.chinesehsc.org/chinese_calenders.shtml
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New Theories / what is the game today, globally?
« on: 25/07/2018 11:57:30 »
Not sure if this is a new theory or not.
I'm thinking todays game is all about money, taking as much as one can, so one can buy a holiday and use nature as a selfie backdrop to make everyone else think they've been left behind, right?
Is that nuts or what?
Surely in a game of life the name of the game is to preserve the life/environment of one's own habitat, one's own life sphere? That should be paramount, not a back-drop, especially so the closer we get to unlocking the code of time and space.
That only works when people are able to get over all of the other stuff.....right?
Does anyone know any good books I can read on this theme?
I think we as a people are close to cracking the code of time and space. But whats our behaviour there, our message.....it can't be a simple backdrop anymore. Going with an electronic media crowd as a leadership can't really say anything beyond what the electronic media is deigned to do, right? So what can leaders say in defence of life?
I'm thinking todays game is all about money, taking as much as one can, so one can buy a holiday and use nature as a selfie backdrop to make everyone else think they've been left behind, right?
Is that nuts or what?
Surely in a game of life the name of the game is to preserve the life/environment of one's own habitat, one's own life sphere? That should be paramount, not a back-drop, especially so the closer we get to unlocking the code of time and space.
That only works when people are able to get over all of the other stuff.....right?
Does anyone know any good books I can read on this theme?
I think we as a people are close to cracking the code of time and space. But whats our behaviour there, our message.....it can't be a simple backdrop anymore. Going with an electronic media crowd as a leadership can't really say anything beyond what the electronic media is deigned to do, right? So what can leaders say in defence of life?
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New Theories / who hates people being pre-emptive?
« on: 02/07/2018 13:34:18 »
Anyone?
Like someone is talking about something.....like a song....
A new idea comes along, and its hits tunes we haven't used before....not science we're use to.
Its going to hurt despite how well it works.
Like someone is talking about something.....like a song....
A new idea comes along, and its hits tunes we haven't used before....not science we're use to.
Its going to hurt despite how well it works.
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« on: 06/06/2018 09:23:30 »
That may be true, yet have you heard of the idea of "mechanical resonance"? The idea is one of repeated juxtapositions of harmonic vibration that lead to far greater effects. I think Tesla presented this idea with his "earthquake maker" device. I also think Mythbusters did a segment on it, with surprising results.
If there is no mechanical resonance between the Moon and Earth after so many years of their association, well, we're not really looking outside the square are we, right?
Let me ask this question; "if there was no moon would the Earth still be what it is"?
If this forum is a puppet show in a certain and hopefully limited regard, I can't help but think a puppet has descended from the higher eschelons of forum authority to make the "new ideas" segment something bordering on the ridiculous, right? The section is deliberately called "light", yet new ideas are what makes science evolve to greater domains, righty right?
If there is no mechanical resonance between the Moon and Earth after so many years of their association, well, we're not really looking outside the square are we, right?
Let me ask this question; "if there was no moon would the Earth still be what it is"?
If this forum is a puppet show in a certain and hopefully limited regard, I can't help but think a puppet has descended from the higher eschelons of forum authority to make the "new ideas" segment something bordering on the ridiculous, right? The section is deliberately called "light", yet new ideas are what makes science evolve to greater domains, righty right?
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« on: 05/06/2018 07:52:39 »
link=topic=73127.msg543936#msg543936 date=1528121613]
The summary is that difference of gravitational force between nearest and furthest point on earth in earth-moon axis is too small to be the main cause of tidal bulge. Instead it is caused by the accumulation of forces on points outside of earth-moon axis.[/quote]
Thank you for your summary, but you have been too benevolent when watching and listening to that video.
The author explains that "accumulation of forces" (?) happens through a kind of hydraulic mechanism, that "squeezes" the oceans and mainly due to that the bulges are formed ... Rubbish !!
I´m pretty sure squeezing, if any, is quite negligible:
1) The active agent of the supposed hydraulic device would act on a relatively very small surface: a very narrow "belt" 90º away from sublunar point, less than 5º worth (Moon - Earth distance is app. 60 times the radius of Earth, and all pulls are almost parallel). On the rest of sea surface radial component of Moon´s pull are outwards, suctioning rather than squeezing !!
2) On that small area, where there is an inward component of Moon pull, the difference between that pull and required centripetal force for revolving is close to null: almost no "spare" pull, and therefore no tidal force.
3) And inward component of that difference is app. that tiny value divided by 60 ...
Quite NEGLIGIBLE compared to other intervening factors !!
The summary is that difference of gravitational force between nearest and furthest point on earth in earth-moon axis is too small to be the main cause of tidal bulge. Instead it is caused by the accumulation of forces on points outside of earth-moon axis.[/quote]
Thank you for your summary, but you have been too benevolent when watching and listening to that video.
The author explains that "accumulation of forces" (?) happens through a kind of hydraulic mechanism, that "squeezes" the oceans and mainly due to that the bulges are formed ... Rubbish !!
I´m pretty sure squeezing, if any, is quite negligible:
1) The active agent of the supposed hydraulic device would act on a relatively very small surface: a very narrow "belt" 90º away from sublunar point, less than 5º worth (Moon - Earth distance is app. 60 times the radius of Earth, and all pulls are almost parallel). On the rest of sea surface radial component of Moon´s pull are outwards, suctioning rather than squeezing !!
2) On that small area, where there is an inward component of Moon pull, the difference between that pull and required centripetal force for revolving is close to null: almost no "spare" pull, and therefore no tidal force.
3) And inward component of that difference is app. that tiny value divided by 60 ...
Quite NEGLIGIBLE compared to other intervening factors !!
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« on: 04/06/2018 15:13:33 »
I think this video explains tide well. The title is "What Physics Teachers Get Wrong About Tides!"
The summary is that difference of gravitational force between nearest and furthest point on earth in earth-moon axis is too small to be the main cause of tidal bulge. Instead it is caused by the accumulation of forces on points outside of earth-moon axis.
The summary is that difference of gravitational force between nearest and furthest point on earth in earth-moon axis is too small to be the main cause of tidal bulge. Instead it is caused by the accumulation of forces on points outside of earth-moon axis.
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« on: 02/06/2018 02:42:31 »
Does the Van Allen radiation belt have mass that can affect the tidal force or axial tilt?
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« on: 31/05/2018 13:45:10 »
If I spun myself around quickly enough, am I going to get a better chance of realising the topic?
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« on: 29/05/2018 14:00:27 »if the side of the moon turned to the earth is concave,The moon concave's Earths space time.
That's just silly.
The moon is nearly spherical and thus convex all over.
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Tides is the result of the rotation of the Earth and whirlpools
« on: 29/05/2018 13:49:02 »if the side of the moon turned to the earth is concave,That's just silly.
The moon is nearly spherical and thus convex all over.
The gravity of the moon does not reach the Earth:What stops it?
There's nothing known that shields from gravity and it's range is infinite- as far as we can tell- it's certainly much longer range than the earth/ moon/ sun system because it keeps the outer planets in orbit.
The geostationary satellite of the Earth, acting as part of the Earth, is in zero gravity, at a distance of 35,000 km. from the Earth,Obviously wrong.
If the satellite was in zero gravity there would be nothing keeping it in orbit and it would fly off into the cosmos.
and for some reason, is not exposed to the tidal influence of the Moon, despite the fact that the "tidal force" in the Earth-satellite system is 5 times greater than on Earth.The tidal force is due not to gravity per se, but to the first derivative RT distance.
Essentially, because a satellite is small the difference between the moon's gravity is very very nearly the same on the near side as it is on the far side.
On the other hand, the Earth is big.
And it must not be forgotten that the oceans and continents are attracted by the Earth, and the satellite is in zero gravity ..Why do you say that "must not be forgotten" when it is obviously not true.
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« on: 26/05/2018 00:19:47 »
Are we are missing the forest for the trees though? Does the Moon relate with the Earth's spin in terms of a tidal connection?
Who is going to say that the shape of the rivers and estuaries makes the moon magically manifest with the tides?
Who is going to say that the shape of the rivers and estuaries makes the moon magically manifest with the tides?
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« on: 25/05/2018 16:13:22 »Yesterday the Fundy tide was 11m and the buoy in N Gulf of Maine registered 1.98km/hYou claim that a current of 15km/h is required in the Northern part of the Gulf of Maine, but buoy data from this area shows a maximum of 2.34km/h over the first 5 months of this year.At a maximum of 2.34 km / h, what is the height of the tides?
Find the height of the tides of 15 meters, the speed should be 15 km / h?
If this does not happen, I will apologize to everyone for losing my time and yours.
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« on: 24/05/2018 13:30:51 »moo.jpg (13.29 kB . 664x503 - viewed 5087 times)
Just a comment in picture form.
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« on: 23/05/2018 16:28:56 »
Ok, so there are theories about tidal flows that perhaps have a lot to do with local estuaries, local sand banks, that sort of thing, right?
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« on: 23/05/2018 14:48:59 »
Do you think your "resonance" idea is going to catch?
It's a great way to stimulate debate, don't get me wrong there.
It's a great way to stimulate debate, don't get me wrong there.
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« on: 23/05/2018 13:05:15 »
And the modern barycentric model of lunar tides doesn't account for "two tides", tides on opposing positions of the planet?
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That CAN'T be true! / Re: Rotating earth theory of two high tides a day
« on: 23/05/2018 11:26:15 »
Can someone summarise what tidal resonance theory is?
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