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Why do insects fly?

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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #40 on: 07/03/2023 10:51:35 »
Quote from: Zer0 on 06/03/2023 19:41:59
Isn't there a way in which You could just wear a 3d virtual headset, then connect to a online medical framework, & take over full access of a humanoid robot?
Excellent idea, especially if said robot can fly and drive to the location and make soothing noises over the phone.

This afternoon I will attend a worldwide Zoom medical ethics conference wearing my best dinner jacket, bow tie, and underpants. Way ahead of you, my friend.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #41 on: 07/03/2023 13:10:55 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 07/03/2023 10:49:40
How would you persuade our Nordic friends to stop making steel (which they use to make electric vehicles) and cook your lunch instead?

Money.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #42 on: 07/03/2023 16:23:18 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 07/03/2023 10:49:40
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 05/03/2023 14:56:37
Scandinavia has enough electricity to process steel with because of hydro electric power,
and to support a tiny population who also use wind, wood- and waste-burning power stations to make up the difference. How would you persuade our Nordic friends to stop making steel (which they use to make electric vehicles) and cook your lunch instead?
They don't need to. If they are making steel when they receive our electric they turn off the hydro electric, if we want to cook dinner they turn up the hydro electric. If there is too much electricity power they pump water back up.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #43 on: 08/03/2023 08:56:12 »
I presume you do not have shares in steelmaking, or indeed any other heat-intensive industry.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #44 on: 08/03/2023 13:14:02 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/03/2023 08:56:12
I presume you do not have shares in steelmaking, or indeed any other heat-intensive industry.
Not in this country, but I think a few bob in Scandinavia steel is worth a chance, steel has got to come from somewhere and if carbon credits etc are to become law on steel I should make a fortune.

As I have said, money is all energy essentially, most things have embodied energy there in that dictates the price, so everything is heat intensive at some level, silicone chips come from wafers that require massive energy input.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/sep/18/semiconductor-silicon-chips-carbon-footprint-climate
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #45 on: 08/03/2023 14:28:27 »
Your scandi-steel shares won't be worth much if they have to shut down the furnaces every time it snows in Britain.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #46 on: 08/03/2023 14:47:27 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/03/2023 14:28:27
Your scandi-steel shares won't be worth much if they have to shut down the furnaces every time it snows in Britain.
No they will already have power saved in the water they have pumped up to the top of the hydro plant . They will have a supply capacity greater than the need.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #47 on: 08/03/2023 19:28:25 »
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 08/03/2023 14:47:27
No they will already have power saved in the water they have pumped up to the top of the hydro plant .
thanks to the abundance of hydroelectricity? Sounds awfully like perpetual motion to me.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #48 on: 08/03/2023 22:02:47 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 08/03/2023 19:28:25
Quote from: Petrochemicals on 08/03/2023 14:47:27
No they will already have power saved in the water they have pumped up to the top of the hydro plant .
thanks to the abundance of hydroelectricity? Sounds awfully like perpetual motion to me.
It is almost, the water cycle perpetually moves water around the environment.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #49 on: 09/03/2023 22:00:03 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 07/03/2023 10:51:35
Quote from: Zer0 on 06/03/2023 19:41:59
Isn't there a way in which You could just wear a 3d virtual headset, then connect to a online medical framework, & take over full access of a humanoid robot?
Excellent idea, especially if said robot can fly and drive to the location and make soothing noises over the phone.

Not sure where you were going with this one...lol
Anyways, the Robot need not be present at your home.
The Idea is to take ' Remote Access ' over a physical object from afar.
The OPerator stays in bed, logs in, & connects to a MedRobo physically present in the Hospital.



This afternoon I will attend a worldwide Zoom medical ethics conference wearing my best dinner jacket, bow tie, and underpants. Way ahead of you, my friend.
Surely there weren't Any mirrors or reflective surfaces behind or around you & you did End the call before rising up...or else you'd have been all over the News.

(d cessna pilot who owns a saturnV)
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #50 on: 10/03/2023 12:04:30 »
1. I'd need 1500 robots to service all my client clinics, and they'd be idle most of the time.

2.After many years of careful study and practice,  I've learned to keep my nether regions under the desk and point the camera at my face. However the internet is not short of amateurs who seem to lose all their clothes when delivering pizza or repairing a washing machine.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #51 on: 10/03/2023 13:14:30 »
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1. I'd need 1500 robots to service all my client clinics, and they'd be idle most of the time.
Or one, if you taught it to drive.
Or two robots, if one was a self driving car
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #52 on: 11/03/2023 17:47:53 »
So by learning to drive, I've saved myself the cost of two robots. Seems like a good business decision.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #53 on: 11/03/2023 22:17:46 »
Incidentally, i seem to have managed to Sabotage this Thread too!
(It was supposed to be about Plants & Insects & Wings...Not Renewable Energy & Robots)

1500 sites could have just One spare Robot.
Access to it could be shared between Multiple Users.
Who gets to control it when n at what time n for how long could be based on Emergencies & Prioritizations.
It Might have been a Smart Business Strategy for Entrepreneurs to avoid paying travel/commute allowances to employees, not to mention avoiding workplace accidents/injuries and hefty fines or regular medical compensation payouts.

BUT, i cannot Help think of the larger consequences...

e.g. if a fictional start-up company iR0B0 manufacturers 10 robots per day, each robot catering to 10 user access would end up with 10robo x 10user = 100 access points created per day.
That might mean 100 people would have the Opportunity to Work from Home.

Suppose, iR0B0s puts in place a assembly n production line n makes 100 robots per day, 100robots x 10users = 1000 folks stay at home per day.

Say iR0B0 working days are around 300days on a yearly basis...

300days of production x 100robots per day = 30,000robots a year.

30,000robots x 10users = 300,000 people off roads per year.

Now Imagine iR0B0 uses robots to manufacture robots on a start of the art assembly & production line...

1000units per day...300,000units per year...3 Million people do not step out of the house.

In Ten years time, 30 Million folks would transition to Online Remote Access.

Resulting in, a collapse of the public transportation system, automobile demands halved, cabs/taxies ceasing to operate, petrol pumps/gas stations rusting.

It would provoke & conjure a Neo-Luddite Uprising, the likes of which this World has Never seen.
UK will BURN!
Ashes to Ashes...Dust to Dust.



Moving on...
I'm mostly Ignorant, but still Understand certain aspects.
It must be quite Irritating when folks Repeatedly keep suggesting Renewables, while Ignoring dark n cold windless nights of snow.

If only UK could Invest in Moroccan Solar Plants, but before that figure out a complex engineering problem of avoiding or curtailing Loss of Power in Transmission.
Maybe that could be a Way Out!

Still, sounds pretty condescending doesn't it, when U & i, We both know UK is Not the Real Problem, it's ASIA!
(coal & oil)
Relatable to what i said before,
" Great Britain is Not the Whole World ".


Anyways, if Insects developed Wings...Why don't Plants grow Feet?

P.S. - placing a pizza delivery order during rush hours, hoping they won't be able to make it before 30mins & free pizza would be obtained is a bit similar to wishing death on someone.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #54 on: 11/03/2023 23:46:04 »
One of the jobs I do involves  spending about one hour on a client's site every 3 years. So to service 1500 clients either I drive or fly around the country and enjoy the scenery, hospitality and friendly conversation appurtenant thereto (including the amazing variety of local beer, black pudding and tripe these islands have to offer) or I get a robot to have all the fun, or I buy 1500 robots who only work for 1 hour in every 26,000 that I pay them for, and sit in the office trying to interpret the photographs and numbers they send me. Believe me, doing office work in your underpants loses its charm after a while.

Incidentally whilst taking a break from driving last week I was enjoying the London and North Eastern Railway's excellent curry (other dishes are available) when I saw a huge and ecofriendly solar farm, covered with snow. Just as well the train was powered by Venezuelan or Norwegian fossil gas, as the wind wasn't blowing either.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #55 on: 12/03/2023 11:18:19 »
Quote from: alancalverd on 11/03/2023 17:47:53
So by learning to drive, I've saved myself the cost of two robots. Seems like a good business decision.
Depends on the price of the robots.
I don't drive.
I suspect my taxi fares over the year add up to less than your road tax, fuel bills, insurance , repayments etc.
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Re: Why do insects fly?
« Reply #56 on: 13/03/2023 23:26:04 »
So the Journey is the Destination...
Coz Happiness is a Journey, Not a Destination.

Anyways, i think Insects evolved Wings bcoz they got tired & wary of Crawling.
Maybe someday Plants would grow Feet, to run as far away as possible from Us!
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