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"Placebo fraud rocks the very foundation of modern medical science"
« Reply #20 on: 03/11/2010 16:29:24 »
Daveyboy:

You seem to be stuck on the notion that opinions about complicated medical problems have worth, while carefully constructed science does not. Your fight or flight idea is very imaginative, but it has no evidence to support it, and you offer a very slick advertisement video as believable evidence. I believe the thesis of that great American philosopher, Dirty Harry, pretty much covered the worth of unsupported opinions (google the following-- "opinions are like"+"everybody has one" – including the quotes). This is a science site, and the least you could do is to learn a little bit about how science actually works because your misperceptions are embarrassing.

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"Placebo fraud rocks the very foundation of modern medical science"
« Reply #21 on: 03/11/2010 17:08:11 »
Its more embarrassing that GPs have no clue how to deal with back pain and RSI.
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"Placebo fraud rocks the very foundation of modern medical science"
« Reply #22 on: 03/11/2010 17:22:30 »
Davey - it would be much more embarrassing if your GP claimed to be able to cure all ailments.  The human body is immensely complicated and many problems do not admit a simple solution.
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« Reply #23 on: 03/11/2010 17:45:03 »
yes, of course.
FM Alexander had many critics of his theory within the medical community so they took him to court.
Trouble is, FM won.
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"Placebo fraud rocks the very foundation of modern medical science"
« Reply #24 on: 03/11/2010 18:57:37 »
Quote from: daveyboy on 03/11/2010 17:08:11
Its more embarrassing that GPs have no clue how to deal with back pain.....

Don't you think that's a rather sweeping statement? In some cases it might be true, but in at least one that I know of, it's quite untrue.

My GP was right on the money. He prescribed exercise - a lot of it. In my case, it worked.
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"Placebo fraud rocks the very foundation of modern medical science"
« Reply #25 on: 03/11/2010 18:58:08 »
Quote from: daveyboy on 03/11/2010 17:08:11
Its more embarrassing that GPs have no clue how to deal with back pain and RSI.
My GP sorted out my sore back, mainly by explaining why it was sore (the painkillers helped too).

Also, GPs (and others) are not Gods. There are some problems they don't have the solutions to.
Admitting you don't know somthing isn't very embarrassing. Carrying on talking gibberish because you won't admit it is a lot more so.
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« Reply #26 on: 03/11/2010 21:26:30 »
Daveyboy:

You continue to amaze. In pre-world war II South Africa, Alexander sued a South African Director of Physical Education for slander regarding the applicability of his physical education techniques and won. This was a slander case not a scientific decision regarding his methods. The actual research regarding his technique for back pain has produced mixed results, but since just about any physical regiment seems to help somewhat this is not surprising. Modern physical therapists pretty much know what does and doesn’t work.

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