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Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?

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Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« on: 23/09/2017 19:24:53 »
What do you think about Bitcoin/CoinBase decentralized ecosystem? I'm looking for a modern decentralized system to use for online payment processing on my website.

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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #1 on: 24/09/2017 18:07:47 »
Bitcoin doesn't have a regulator, so noone will support it if the value crashes.
Criminals love it, because it is more anonymous than numbered bills.

I have heard it described as the most inefficient currency, because (apparently) it takes about 10kWh of processing power to process each transaction (which involves mining bitcoins). But then, the person who said that had probably never seen feather money.

Whether you support bitcoin is up to you - but make sure you support Paypal, too.

I trust that the goods and/or services you sell will provide real value for your customers, and that your customers will have a full and accurate disclosure of what they are getting before they lay down their hard-earned bits...
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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #2 on: 24/09/2017 19:22:10 »
Quote from: evan_au on 24/09/2017 18:07:47
Criminals love it, because it is more anonymous than numbered bills.
That's largely a myth. Every transaction is recorded, so you can, in principle, work out who bought the bits with conventional money.
The "authorities" like the fact that criminals think it's untraceable.

No currency is "safe".
If your customers like bitcoin, use bitcoin. If they like dollars use dollars.
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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #3 on: 24/09/2017 19:48:54 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 24/09/2017 19:22:10
Quote from: evan_au on 24/09/2017 18:07:47
Criminals love it, because it is more anonymous than numbered bills.
That's largely a myth. Every transaction is recorded, so you can, in principle, work out who bought the bits with conventional money.
The "authorities" like the fact that criminals think it's untraceable.

No currency is "safe".
If your customers like bitcoin, use bitcoin. If they like dollars use dollars.

In a decentralized system like Bitcoin, where is the transaction recorded into?
I assume there can be no central authority in Bitcoin-based transactions.
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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #4 on: 24/09/2017 21:56:25 »
Quote from: tkadm30 on 24/09/2017 19:48:54
where is the transaction recorded into?
The blockchain.
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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #5 on: 04/10/2017 14:22:45 »
It carries a risk in those countries which can afford to invest in tracking down info on bitcoin. For example the FBI.

You got to think on the place where you live in.
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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #6 on: 04/10/2017 19:33:15 »
Quote from: Danne on 04/10/2017 14:22:45
It carries a risk in those countries which can afford to invest in tracking down info on bitcoin. For example the FBI.

You got to think on the place where you live in.

True but the FBI has already a backdoor to paypal centralized service.
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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #7 on: 01/02/2022 12:24:22 »
The coins that are btc-encrypted can be tracked via the blockchain. This means that the coins can become "tainted". For instance, if you purchase bitcoins that were, unknown to you or used in illegal ways or for illegal activities, the seller may refuse to accept your payment. That's why I will suggest to use a secure gateway or a recurring payment platform for this purpose.

I've heard Coinbase has done something similar using bitcoins in gambling and gambling, but I'm not able to find any information on this.

« Last Edit: 05/09/2022 09:25:47 by JesWade21 »
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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #8 on: 01/02/2022 19:43:53 »
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the FBI has already a backdoor to paypal centralized service.
Under international money-laundering legislation, each country is responsible for tracking large transactons.
- And so when you create an account with a Bitcoin exchange, you need to provide your identification to the Bitcoin exchange; this information is available to the FBI (or the equivalent in your country).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Money_laundering#Combating
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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #9 on: 31/01/2023 23:33:31 »
Will Bitcoin be able to replace conventional currencies?
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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #10 on: 01/02/2023 01:36:10 »
Bitcoin is an innovative currency that poses real risks to national currencies.
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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #11 on: 05/02/2023 20:26:50 »
Could You not have Multiple Payments Options?

Btc, cc, dc, paypal, netbanking, wallets?

If i were to purchase something off of a brand new website that I've never used in the past, I'd prolly look out for a c.o.d. option, atleast for my first ever purchase.

Once that works out n Trust is formed, then I won't be hesitant to pay upfront.

A Returns Policy is a Must Have Option!
If the Product does Not match the image, description, quality, durability, colour etc etc...& If it turns out to be Non Refundable & Non Returnable..
Then You have lost me as a viable customer Forever!

(& Imma gonna tell all my buddies n families n total strangers online to stay away from ya)
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Re: Is bitcoin a safe alternative to centralized payment systems?
« Reply #12 on: 06/02/2023 04:45:51 »
No

Bitcoin costs somewhere in the region of 20,000usd to produce, a US dollar bill costs cents to print, most conve tional currency does not exist, is created almost without cost.

 People will want to trace and guard their bitcoin from theft, catch the badguys protect from foreign agents doing harm, have a stable system from erratic prices. These things require governments and armies and management.

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