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On the Lighter Side => That CAN'T be true! => Topic started by: qazibasit on 13/07/2003 22:57:55

Title: production of sperm
Post by: qazibasit on 13/07/2003 22:57:55
If a man dont have sex or masturbate for about 6 months he will have as much sperms reproduce the population equal to the population of the world.

In a young man the number of sperms produced daily is approximately 2 million.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: chris on 13/07/2003 23:40:24
Interesting how the subject of semen is a recurring theme on this forum.

The figure I heard was that the human testicles can produce about 5000 sperm per second and the average ejaculate comprises a few hundred million.

Remember though that sperm are made continuously in a dynamic fashion whereby demand dictates production. So it's something of a fallacy to use an expression along the lines of "I've got balls like water melons because it's been so long since I last had sex...".

That said, researchers have found that a partner returning to a loved one produces more sperm than during his period of absence! Though I doubt it would be sufficient to re-people the world with it's current population estimate in excess of 6 billion.

Chris

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Ians Daddy on 14/07/2003 10:40:55
I once saw a doctor that insisted that I become more "active" because my prostate was enlarged. I was married at the time and sex was very seldom (bad marriage) and I was always just too busy to take care of myself. My question is.... If there is not enough ejaculation in a span of time, do the testicles back up and into the prostate? Why was this diagnosis made on me? I'm only 32 and shouldn't have an enlarged prostate. Could there be another reason?
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: roberth on 17/07/2003 01:43:08
Us Australians must be at the forefront of research on this topic. An article released recently, link here to a local paper, says that there is a probability that cleaning of the pipes can reduce the possibility of developing prostate problems in later life. I agree, even though I think the sample used in the study was too small to come to any real conclusions.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/07/16/1058035079098.html
I believe the conclusions reached in this study are being published in one of those magazines you guys would read anyway.(I can't remember the name but it was a medical or scientific journal.)
I guess when you give it some thought, it makes sense that if you have a build up and your testicles haven't yet adjusted to your new level of sexual activity (if it has ceased rather than increased)the "stuff" hangs around in your pipes and goes off. This must have some long term affect on the prostate gland.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 17/07/2003 02:50:51
Ronnie, take Saw Palmetto to return your prostate to its normal size.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Ians Daddy on 17/07/2003 09:27:26
Ok, Thanks...I'll try it.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 17/07/2003 23:05:35
Let us know how well it works for you....pictures not necessary[;)].
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Ians Daddy on 18/07/2003 00:40:35
I've heard that L-argenine is like natural Viagra. Is there any validity to this? I looked at a few sources and no luck. I'm on a health kick right now and am really getting into vitamins and such. At 32, I'm not a candidate for the little blue pill yet, but it might make for an interesting evening. Are there any sources that you would recommend I look at for vitamins and herbal supplements for all aspects?

Pictures and refferences available upon request [;)].
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: chris on 18/07/2003 18:52:06
L-arginine is a naturally occuring amino acid. Whenever you eat protein-rich food you are getting a hefty slug of arginine.

Chris

"I never forget a face, but in your case I'll make an exception"
 - Groucho Marx
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 18/07/2003 23:47:18
Ronnie, I think it's great that you are focusing on your health but, as Chris has pointed out before, there are a lot of products that are designed to lighten your wallet and they don't care what their crap does to your body.  There's also some very good products out there.  

I rely heavily on a book called Prescription for Nutritional Healing (ISBN 0-89529-727-2).  John Lust (yep, I knew you'd like his name) is a naturopathic doctor who is extremely knowledgable about herbs.  Any of his books would be helpful too.  I'm lucky because I can touch a bottle of supplements and if it's good for me I can feel a slight buzz in my hands.

Unfortunately I can't tell you if arginine is like Viagra because we can't get arginine in Canada and I don't have a penis, so how would I know?

On a humorous note, a man once told me that he should be the boss because he had a penis.  I suggested that if that was the case then I should be the boss because while he had only one penis, I could have as many as I wanted[:o)].
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Ians Daddy on 19/07/2003 06:18:29
Hahaha. Never thought of it like that.
Yes, I do like the name...I'll be changing mine soon. That will be my new porn-star name...hehehe.

1. Why can't you get argenine in Canada?
2. Elaborate on the hand buzzer.
3. Is "Advo-care" available there?

Someone spoke to me about Advo-care the other day. Supposed to be a great line of health care items and supplements. Have you heard of it?
 
Thanks for the book title...I'll look into it.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 20/07/2003 22:39:45
Ronnie Lust...sounds better than Ron Wayne Bobbitt don't you think[:D]?  

1.  I'm not sure why we can't get arginine in Canada at health food stores.  I believe you can get a prescription from a doctor for it, but it's difficult to find a doctor knowledgable in the field of supplements.  I'll just pick some up when we're in Vegas.

2.  When I had mercury poisoning[xx(] and fibromyalgia[:(!] it took a lot of investigative work on my part to find the problem, and then treat it in a way that would work for my body.  I had to become super-duper aware of what was going on inside my own skin (and head).  I noticed that when I craved "food" that was bad for me the craving was more in my mouth, whereas when I craved food that was good for me it felt like my whole body craved it.  I believe you can fine tune your body awareness to the atomic level and that's why I can feel a buzz when something is effective for me.  The closest analogy I can think of is it's like touching something that's slightly warm, you have to pay attention to notice the difference.  Try sitting comfortably with your eyes closed and shift your awareness to different parts of your body (toes, ears, elbows...) one at a time.

3.  I have not heard of Advo Care, but I have  healthy scepticism regarding what people say about products that they are profiting from.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Ians Daddy on 21/07/2003 04:48:33
Donnah,

You're right. (ouch)
Odd. (have fun in "Lost Wages")
Interesting. (I have to get a grip on my cravings)
Good point. (greed is bad)
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: bezoar on 21/07/2003 15:05:59
There are docs here in the states that believe that fibromyalgia is a bulls**t diagnosis.  That is doesn't really exist except in your mind.  I'm curious, cause I don't believe that, but how, exactly, were you diagnosed?  I review medical records for attorneys, and in the personal injury field, the back injuries (malingerer types) almost always get a diagnosis of fibromyalgia somewhere along the way.  I think it gives the syndrome a bad name.  What type of objective tests were performed?  I've read some information about certain pressure points that elicit pain, but that was all subjective.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 21/07/2003 22:15:55
I was diagnosed by a rheumatologist who specializes in FM.  Fibromyalgia is very real, it's just an easy syndrome to fake, so the charlatans are riding on the shoulders of some very sick people and I'd love to kick their lazy asses.  Somebody should hire me to do just that, since I can spot a faker pretty quickly.

I had nothing to gain and everything to lose by being sick.  I was a single parent with no illness pension.  It was do or die, and when I look back I don't think I'd have gotten through it if it weren't for my son.

Honestly, I don't remember all the tests performed, but I do remember the trigger points test.  The first time it was done, he touched them all, and for days afterward I could barely move due to the pain (I never let anyone trigger them all after that).  Another time my family physician touched a point behind my right knee.  It felt like she stabbed me with a knife and my reaction scared us both.  Within a few hours my right leg was so swollen I couldn't get my shoe on.

The first things I look for when someone claims to be sick are:

Hair - when you're not healthy, neither is your hair

Eyes - wrinkles go across crow's feet like an x after frequently wincing with pain and eyes are sometimes swollen and bloodshot, but rarely clear

Weight - FM can cause weight increase or decrease, but the fakers are usually overweight (lazy person, lazy habits)

Habits - If they smoke they are not committed to getting well...likewise if they drink or continue to eat junk food

If you thought someone was faking you could give them a pamphlet showing the location of some false trigger points (several, in case you happen to indicate a point that genuinely is sore for another reason) and see how they react when those points are pressed.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: bezoar on 22/07/2003 22:54:36
I like your idea about the false trigger points.  And you're right, most of the malingerers are overweight as well.  The story about the spot on your knee should make a believer out of anyone, but I have to tell you, have never seen anything that dramatic on any of the records I've reviewed.  Have you heard of the Cuddle-ewe underquilt?  Supposed to give good relief to FM sufferers.  The people I review have been in in-patient treatment for chronic pain, which seems to miraculously improve dramatically or disappear whenever they have visitors, unless, of course, it's their attorney.  And they don't realize that the staff watches for and documents this.  The only other time they get such good pain relief is after they get a huge settlement on their case.  It's amazing how quickly they're cured.  Also, I read that there is no evidence that a traumatic injury precipitates fibromyalgia, yet the ones I've seen have all been a result of a back injury in an automobile accident.  And yours wasn't brought about by injury but by your mercury poisoning.  Are you cured now or does it tend to exacerbate from time to time?  Does chelation therapy help for mercury poisoning?  If so, did it help?  Does the mercury eventually leach out, or do you keep it for life?  Because my next question is, if the mercury is gone, is the FM?
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 23/07/2003 03:04:10
Are you cured now or does it tend to exacerbate from time to time?
As far as I know I'm cured.  I have minor problems and pains, but I think that's pretty normal for someone my age (48).

Does chelation therapy help for mercury poisoning? If so, did it help?  Does the mercury eventually leach out, or do you keep it for life?
The body will try to rid itself of mercury but when there's too much you're screwed unless you figure out what it is and what to do about it.  It's like when the sewer backs up in your house.  The mercury will lodge in your brain, organs, DNA, you name it.  My level was extremely high and I had five chelation injections (EDTA and DMPS) over a ten (I think) week period.  The naturopath who administered the treatments expected it to take ten injections, but I went for lymphatic massage simultaneously, which seemed to speed things up.  

Because my next question is, if the mercury is gone, is the FM?
My FM is g-o-n-e.....gone!  In my case the mercury was the underlying cause, so once that was gone my body healed.  It was slow, took more than six years of treatments and rebuilding my body (now I get to rebuild my bank account).  I still don't have the strength, stamina, or mental quickness and memory that I used to have.  What I have to compensate for that is a LARGE appreciation of my health.  

I haven't heard of the Cuddle-ewe underquilt.  What's it like and what does it do?

Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: bezoar on 23/07/2003 05:34:12
Glad your FM is gone.  My understanding of it was that it was chronic.  I guess the side effects of loss of stamina, memory are side effects of the mercury poisoning?  That must have been a tough diagnosis to make for the docs.  You had a good medical detective to figure that one out.  The Cuddle-ewe is a lamb's wool underquilt that's supposed to be very comforting to those with FM.  Enables them to get a good night's sleep.  You can find it at Cuddle-ewe.com, and no, I don't sell them or get a commission.  Just heard it today again on the radio and thought of you.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 23/07/2003 16:38:41
It is chronic and there are people here who think I'm just in remission (yeah, right, for seven and a half years).  The rheumatologist grilled me with questions of how I had done it.  

The doctors didn't figure it out.  I did the detective work myself.  The first time I thought mercury might be the problem they pooh poohed the idea and I moved on to the next suspect.  But it popped up again in my research and alarm bells went off in my head.  I asked my doctor to test me and she said she didn't know how, but would find out and do it.  She did a (24 hr, I think) urine collection that showed my mercury levels were low.  Thinking I was wrong (again), I just happened to go to my dentist, who looked in my mouth and asked if I had a huge list of symptoms.  I answered yes to almost all of them and he referred me to an N.D.  The N.D. explained to me that when the body becomes over-saturated with mercury, your organs become overloaded and cannot flush the mercury out effectively.  He did a hair analysis and another urine test (using chelates).  

A toxicologist told me the chelate test was not an accurate indicator of mercury levels in the body.  I asked her where the mercury in my urine came from if that was the case.  She just said "it's very complex" and refused to answer any more questions.  I think she was afraid because people were losing their licenses over the dental mercury issue (at that time the only mercury exposure I knew about was my dental fillings).  As far as I'm concerned the answer lies in the fact that after being treated for mercury poisoning I got well.

Cuddle-ewe sounds great!  I will check out the website....thanks.  When I was sick it was hard to get warm (ever).  It could be 80 degrees F and I felt chilly, so I can see how it would be a boon to FM sufferers.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: bezoar on 23/07/2003 17:42:14
So, it was really the dentist who was on to something.  But I would thing most of the civilized world has amalgam fillings in their mouth.  I know I have plenty of them and don't have any symptoms of ill health.  I would think there was another source of mercury elsewhere. Didnt' I see you mention the fish supply on another site? Did the dentist see something unusual in your mouth that led to his questions, or was is the number of fillings?  You must have really intimidated the doc by asking questions that he/she couldn't answer.  Don't you just hate when they do that?  Clam up and don't answer?  Not like mercury poisoning is a common thing and you'd expect them to have all that knowledge at their fingertips.  It would be fine for them to just say, "I'll have to research that," and get back to you.  Glad your persistence paid off for you.

When I was in high school, I was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis.  All through my first year of nursing school, I was on medication and my knees and fingers would turn red, swell and ache.  Then, when we studied arthritis in my second year, I realized what I had and really got scared.  Knew if I continued on with the disease I'd end up in a wheelchair.  Decided right then and there that I refused to have arthritis.  Threw away the meds and denied the existence of the arthritis.  In about three months, it went away, and has never come back.  Some people say the same about that.  It's in remission.  Well, that's OK, cause it's going to stay there for the rest of my life.  I don't have the time or patience for that disease.

By the way, what is a ND?  Is that the same as MD?
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 23/07/2003 18:32:30
N.D. - Naturopathic Doctor

Did your "arthritis" appear about the same time you had fillings placed?  RA is the first thing "they" thought I had (age 16).  Glad yours is gone!  Did you do something else to help yourself, or was it strictly mind-over-matter?

Some people have a mouth full of amalgams and seem to be fine.  I did have other mercury sources (mining pollution, toxic fish) but also am just one of those people who are super sensitive to the substance.  Other factors I consider relevant are:
no colostrum as a baby
poor diet through childhood
extreme psychological abuse through childhood

All of which means my immune system was challenged from day one.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: bezoar on 24/07/2003 05:48:12
More like fear over matter.  I was just too plain scared to hang on to any illness like that.  And no, the fillings far preceeded the arthritis.  Didn't go for menstrual cramps or morning sickness either.  All that stuff is just too neurotic and I didn't have time for it.  I like feeling good, and if it's anything my mind can control, (and I do believe there are things that are not all in your mind,) I will put effort into eliminating the illness.

The psychological abuse was probably the worst thing of all the things you mentioned.  Depression will absolutely weaken the immune system.  And even in animals.  I've seen dogs grieve to death after the loss of their master.  I had a cat that adopted another cat -- and he was neutered too.  Anyway, he and his buddy were inseperable until she got hit by a car and died.  He hardly ate after that, became ill, and in less than a month he was dead too. The mind is a powerful organ.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 24/07/2003 15:19:29
I too believe most illness originates in the mind.  I think it's fantastic that you were able to pick up and hold your own reins.

Having worked with animals quite a bit, I've seen the effects of depression on them.  Most of them respond well to some extra TLC.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Ians Daddy on 24/07/2003 15:22:47
I think it's safe to say that this would apply to the "human animal" as well.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 24/07/2003 19:24:44
Agreed.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Exodus on 25/07/2003 00:26:48
i respond very well to TLC!

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Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 25/07/2003 17:38:48
When you're giving or receiving?
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Ians Daddy on 25/07/2003 21:45:40
I find that both are benefitial. Giving TLC and receiving. Especially with a PYT. (Sorry, just a little Michael Jackson.)
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: bezoar on 26/07/2003 09:43:44
Hmmm.  I think Michael may have a different concept of PYT -- at least I hope so.
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Donnah on 26/07/2003 21:53:54
What's PYT?
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Ians Daddy on 26/07/2003 22:43:30
T.L.C. (tender loving care) P.Y.T. (pretty young thing)....It's an old M.J. song. You know, before he was a white woman. You're right, PYT may have a whole new meaning with him now. Hehehe
Title: Re: production of sperm
Post by: Radrook on 15/06/2004 14:03:47
quote:
Originally posted by Ians Daddy

I once saw a doctor that insisted that I become more "active" because my prostate was enlarged. I was married at the time and sex was very seldom (bad marriage) and I was always just too busy to take care of myself. My question is.... If there is not enough ejaculation in a span of time, do the testicles back up and into the prostate? Why was this diagnosis made on me? I'm only 32 and shouldn't have an enlarged prostate. Could there be another reason?



There are three types of enlargement of the prostrate.
One is due to congestion due to insufficient sex.
The other is due to changes in hormones as men age.
The third is due to a cancerous growth.

You seem to fall into the first category.
Actually, the doctor should have used the term congestion instead of enlargement.