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The recent stall in warming has been attributed to more heat going into the oceans, and that may well be the case
I think the suggestion that the laws of physics have suddenly changed
QuoteThe recent stall in warming has been attributed to more heat going into the oceans, and that may well be the caseI think the suggestion that the laws of physics have suddenly changed, which is what this statement amounts to, is either a profound insight that most of us have missed, or an indication of arrogance and ignorance coming to the defence of a dead dogma.
The recent slowing in atmospheric warming has happened at a time when there have been an increased number of La Niña events in which cold ocean currents reach the surface which don't normally do so
Looking at the El Niño/La Niña graphs for the last few years,There were several strong El Niño events during the 80's and 90's when the temperatures were rapidly increasing. Since 2000, it has indeed trended a bit more towards ENSO neutral sea surface temperatures, but that seems to contrast more with the heavily positive period earlier. And, several of the years in the last decade have been weakly ENSO positive.
The ARGO project has been measuring deep ocean temperatures around the globe since about year 2000, so unfortunately it doesn't have a lot of history. Some of the short term trends that have been posted haven't shown significant deep ocean temperature rises in the last decade or so. Hopefully some longer term, more neutral analysis of trends are available.
Another measurement of sea temperatures is the sea surface height, which is largely based on thermal expansion. Most graphs seem to indicate a similar rate of rise in sea levels before 2000 and after 2000.
but the links lead to blank pages and error messages. It looks as if you can get their data on a CD,
For some reason, O3 is produced in high altitudes when it would otherwise be too dense of a gas to make it out of the lower troposphere.
there are endless things we don't know, yet some claim to be able to work them out with mathematics that is beyond 99.9% of the worlds population.. and how do we agree it is proof?
I would like to redirect this conversation back to the topic of peer reviews.. These are a significant part of the scientific process, and with the events around the university of east anglia, how can we keep believing everything to be true that the only argument for is 'We all agree', the speed of light, the existance of gluons, photons, dark matter, the motion of the galaxies..
Most of the people who believe......would be only too happy to believe the opposite if that belief could be sustained.
Chinese manufacturing industry.
Carbon credit traders.
Governments that impose passenger taxes and fuel levies.
Research councils that give taxpayers' money to fund climate research and nuclear fusion.
..... Oh the list goes on!
QuoteMost of the people who believe......would be only too happy to believe the opposite if that belief could be sustained. Substitute "original sin" for "climate change" and you have the basis for a very profitable religion! The trick is to present an untestable hypothesis as fact, then sell the snake oil.
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