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Can we use trees to find ancient town and city sites in Somalia?
« on: 04/08/2022 07:34:16 »
With GoogleEarth looking into one of the least developed countries' wilderness of Somalia and being aware much of what would be lost to time discarded as ancient towns and cities would be Islamic medieval buildings and streets.
I find that one of the easiest possibilities is the "right angle" to pick on for taking a look.
However, Arabic cities have been known to be a sprawl as many African and Egyptian cities or towns mapping plan are.
Too, many modern (year 1900 and onward) Somali farming yards can be deceptive as many of these are rebuilt again and again nearby or intersecting over the old position , of some of these are perfect circles while for most the standard design is a rectangle of one end is wider than the other by 50 to 100 yards. These yards they make from 10's of thousands of upright tree branches.
NOW, when looking on one image from google earth i found the appearance of "sprawl" like an ancient town or city, but the interesting fact is it is heavily emphasized by "trees" as an outline.
Also, these trees often are healthier (hazard a guess mud bricks?) than surrounding areas hundreds of meters away where the lines of the trees appear to follow the natural split slots in underground stone formation of the landscape where nutrients and rooting is easier to occur.
This point from time to time has led me to question some of the unique vastly lone incidence of "right angle" sets of trees in places where nothing else shows any signs of not being natural.
In the attachments are pictures that show the differences over the same location by the tree growth and farming
on one particular site.

Link: Town plan picture of Kukawa in Nigeria 1851 for comparison
https://historum.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2F6%2F69%2FMittelholzer-niamey.jpg&hash=2680c7c5372bdf0d15b802cd43f5e52b
Of one way or another i have seen layouts alike Kukawa as sets of shapes in no mans land in Somalia wilderness also not different to the Gearth (history button) image.

Google earth coords approximately 150 yards by Gearth measure ruler from this marker "below" and a around 50 yards to right (It's also not clear to me if the area off to the left is an ancient mini mega-lake water source)
Latitude:   3°18'38.18"N
Longitude:  45°23'6.93"E

Interesting problem, 40 yards from the marker to SW is a square area with a circular area on one corner, while Islamic mosque has a tower, the ancient Nubian/Egyptian style had a building alike of probably the dimensions. What i thought was modern Somali farming stick fence, is grown bushes on some kind of outline alike paving stone blocking growth.
Some similarity to top left of following picture at its base
http://solarey.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/ancient-somalia-00.jpg
ref: http://solarey.net/ancient-land-punt-pyramidal-structures-found-somalia/

Attached are some pictures


Possible "hewn" solid rock cairns.... the area around the water catchment is loaded with these more as normal constructs.
5°28'33.87"N,44° 5'41.10"E

* SOMALIA-TREES.jpg (531.04 kB, 1920x908 - viewed 123 times.)

* SOMALIA-TREES2.jpg (955.49 kB, 1920x908 - viewed 117 times.)

* SOMALIA-TREES3-overlay-exact.jpg (715.76 kB, 1920x908 - viewed 120 times.)
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Re: Can we use trees to find ancient town and city sites in Somalia?
« Reply #1 on: 16/08/2022 04:13:12 »
Naughty to be almost talking to myself ....
Here's a better example of not deciding whether the trees are growing outline because of underlying ruins or partially coincidental with old farming layouts.
Use Google Earth historic map button Jan 2019 1/2019 on its slider
8°22'38.33"N,47°22'52.44"E


This may be one for a ground penetrating satellite to map a chunk of.

* Somalia-tree-pattern1-Jan-2019-GEarth.jpg (762.26 kB, 1920x908 - viewed 59 times.)

* Somalia-mid-north-east.jpg (1019.28 kB, 1920x908 - viewed 61 times.)
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