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New Theories / Re: there is no time dilation between between bodies in relative motion
« on: 11/12/2024 10:58:59 »
One last point I would like to make before this post is ended. It involves the significance of the push. Two bodies or observers A and B with clocks a certain distance apart can synchronize their time, when not in relative motion. They are in the same inertial frame of reference. A can send a light beam to B and back and determine the distance, then send another beam that will start B's clock. A can calculate the time it would take for the second beam to reach B and start his own clock accordingly. Their clocks are now synchronized.
According to relativity, If we apply an application of force to B, a push say, B will be put in motion towards A. When B reaches A, they collide which immediately freezes the clocks. We should then find that B's time is behind A's. Its rate of time was decreased during the excursion towards A.
I find this somewhat defies the principle of relative motion where there should be an absence of a frame of reference or an aether.
I imagine myself to be B. I feel the push and immediately after I see that A is coming towards me. But I studied relativity and I know this not the case. I know my time is running slower than A's. I am moving through A's inertial frame of reference. Let's call an inertial frame of reference a field.
I am moving through A's field. I am moving through an aether of sorts. My rate of time is determined by my motion through A's field. Please don't tell me that the speeds of light around me are c in and c out. They cannot be. They must be c+v in and c-v out. How else will my rate of time decrease if that isn't the case.
I've somehow lost my own field. All because I was pushed. If A had been pushed then I would retain my field and A's rate of time would be determined by how it moves through my field.
So there are many bodies in relative motion. How do we know which field affects which bodies. We would have to know the history of how they all got to where they are.
But perhaps a field cannot be lost. Maybe a gravitational field, which, every body has, maintains the speed of light to be stringently c. Motion through other fields then can't influence it. But then you would not have time dilation in relative motion
According to relativity, If we apply an application of force to B, a push say, B will be put in motion towards A. When B reaches A, they collide which immediately freezes the clocks. We should then find that B's time is behind A's. Its rate of time was decreased during the excursion towards A.
I find this somewhat defies the principle of relative motion where there should be an absence of a frame of reference or an aether.
I imagine myself to be B. I feel the push and immediately after I see that A is coming towards me. But I studied relativity and I know this not the case. I know my time is running slower than A's. I am moving through A's inertial frame of reference. Let's call an inertial frame of reference a field.
I am moving through A's field. I am moving through an aether of sorts. My rate of time is determined by my motion through A's field. Please don't tell me that the speeds of light around me are c in and c out. They cannot be. They must be c+v in and c-v out. How else will my rate of time decrease if that isn't the case.
I've somehow lost my own field. All because I was pushed. If A had been pushed then I would retain my field and A's rate of time would be determined by how it moves through my field.
So there are many bodies in relative motion. How do we know which field affects which bodies. We would have to know the history of how they all got to where they are.
But perhaps a field cannot be lost. Maybe a gravitational field, which, every body has, maintains the speed of light to be stringently c. Motion through other fields then can't influence it. But then you would not have time dilation in relative motion