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Once more - the motivation is to prevent an excessive demand on masks. Do what China did and set up a factory to churn them out.
Once more you set up a straw-man of expecting perfection
You do it with God and you do it with the Christian and Muslim religions.
Is it just possible that the whole of society around the world supported racism, sexism, homophobia, slavery and other norms now considered immoral?
Was secular and atheist society any better?
What are your solutions to get humankind to work cooperatively?
I can tell you that in my research on various religions
I said that my personal feeling (not backed by Tarot) was that Amy Klobuchar might have a shot at the presidency. When she failed so badly I thought that was the end of that thought. But if she becomes Biden's running mate and he gets ill at a critical stage then she might just end up as the Democratic contender. Is it possible? Life is strange. I like her as a good middle of the road contender.
Quote from: CliveG on Yesterday at 12:55:50 What are your solutions to get humankind to work cooperatively? If the book doesn't agree with the observation one of two things happens.Religion rejects the observations and keeps the book.Science keeps the observations and updates the book.Don't you understand how, even if there was a God, the people would be better off following facts than old myths?If you want people to cooperate the thing you need to avoid doing is splitting them into groups by race, sex, religion sexuality or anything else.So, do you see how ditching a book that divides them on all those categories would be a good thing?
Quote from: CliveG on 08/03/2020 13:08:11I said that my personal feeling (not backed by Tarot) was that Amy Klobuchar might have a shot at the presidency. When she failed so badly I thought that was the end of that thought. But if she becomes Biden's running mate and he gets ill at a critical stage then she might just end up as the Democratic contender. Is it possible? Life is strange. I like her as a good middle of the road contender.That may be many things, but it is not scientific proof of the existence of God.Why did you post it?
Let's get specific. Are the ten commandments good? Should we keep them? If you want to modify them, which ones and why?
The Ten CommandmentsT R LXX P L S A C Main article Exodus 20:1-17 Deuteronomy 5:4-211 (1) — — — — — 1 I am the Lord thy God 2[28] 6[28]2 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 Thou shalt have no other gods before me 3[29] 7[29]2 2 2 2 1 1 1 1 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image 4–6[30] 8–10[30]3 3 3 3 2 2 2 2 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain 7[31] 11[31]4 4 4 4 3 3 3 3 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy 8–11[32] 12–15[33]5 5 5 5 4 4 4 4 Honour thy father and thy mother 12[34] 16[35]6 6 6 7 5 5 5 5 Thou shalt not murder 13[36] 17[36]7 7 7 6 6 6 6 6 Thou shalt not commit adultery 14[37] 18[38]8 8 8 8 7 7 7 7 Thou shalt not steal 15[39] 19[40]9 9 9 9 8 8 8 8 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour 16[41] 20[42]10 10 10 10 9 9 10 10 Thou shalt not covet (neighbour's house) 17a[43] 21b[44]10 10 10 10 10 9 9 9 Thou shalt not covet (neighbour's wife) 17b[45] 21a[46]10 10 10 10 10 9 10 10 Thou shalt not covet (neighbour's slaves, animals, or anything else) 17c[47] 21c[48]— — — — — 10 — — You shall set up these stones, which I command you today, on Mount Gerizim. 14c[49][50] 18c[49][51]All scripture quotes above are from the King James Version unless otherwise stated.
I am the Lord thy God.
Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy
Quote from: CliveG on Today at 05:13:39 Let's get specific. Are the ten commandments good? Should we keep them? If you want to modify them, which ones and why?Let's get more specific. What makes something considered as good? What is the most reliable method/criteria to determine that something is good?
Here is how one defines good. Take a group of older wise people and ask them to give examples of what is good. Their experience of the human condition and their common sense and an innate sense of right and wrong.
Combat teaches a nation to treat an enemy as vermin
He really wanted interdependence.
Quote from: CliveG on 10/03/2020 08:07:37Combat teaches a nation to treat an enemy as verminSo does religion; that's the problem.And it explicitly requires the murder of some groupswhether that's stoning homosexuals or not "suffering witches to live"
Quote from: CliveG on 09/03/2020 19:25:01Here is how one defines good. Take a group of older wise people and ask them to give examples of what is good. Their experience of the human condition and their common sense and an innate sense of right and wrong.Hence pogroms, the Inquisition, the Crusades, forcible "conversion" by the Conquistadores, prohibition of contraception, covering up child sex abuse, and every fatwah and jihad ordained by other old perverts.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 09/03/2020 10:09:45He really wanted interdependence. It is nonsense to say "God wanted X". The omniscient, omnipotent creator of everything, creates exactly what he wants.
The death penalty has been used until very recently for many crimes. Society decides on the crimes and the punishments.
Quote from: CliveG on 11/03/2020 05:10:08The death penalty has been used until very recently for many crimes. Society decides on the crimes and the punishments.And they make that decision which says the Bible is wrong.Humanity does a better job of being good then the Book does.why can't you accept that?