[gcrisp]

I would suggest as a minimum you try Magnesium dicitrate , plus riboflavin plus Coenzyme Q10 in order to improve your mitochondrial metabolism.

[InaDaze]

Hey guys i am new here and i feel like i begin by stating my symptoms and what i have done to combat these symptoms btw i am 19 years old and have dealing with this since i was 14, i dont know how i made it this far. The day after i immediately have a
Severe Headache
depression
No motivation
No interest in the opposite sex (pretty much asexual)
I dont care about anything or anyone barely even myself
Lack confidence, overly self concious, socially awkward and shy
I cant do work efficiently or survive in a social interaction for too long
No real physical pain though other than the fact that i immediately catch a cold.
After about 3-7 days It all goes away and i am the friendliest guy on earth and I am the smartest guy and most talkative person in all of my classes.
I have realized that eating chocolate helps my recovery and being around supportive family members (I havent told anyone)
I am glad to know there are others out there like me if there is any advice please help.
I am right now in day 3 of recovery so please excuse any bad grammar.
Also is there an estimated percentage of people who suffer from this?

I had the exact same symptoms as you do but mine started around 16-17 (I was later with puberty...and Johan I did not hold it in). They faded in intensity as I got older (mid 30s), however they are devastating when you are young and in the prime social & educational era of your life. I found dark chocolate was good in a therapeutic way as well. I crave it, but there is a catch in that if I eat too much I feel worse. I have numerous food intolerances so all I can figure is it is due to something along these lines. It is not something I can eat everyday and also it helps somewhat for pois but is not really any sort of major break through in my opinion. It just helps. It does have a fair bit of saturated fat in it (which has been the topic of discussion recently). It is also high in Copper, Iron, Magnesium, Manganese & Zinc. It may be that you are low in one of these minerals. The user Gbolduev from Russia was a strong advocate of balancing these minerals, and believed imbalances in these (exacerbated by ejaculation & orgasm) were a major factor in why we suffered from pois.

I also found liver (lamb) and blue berries had a therapeutic effect for me.

I am going to try the blue berries. As you may well know this is very difficult to deal with because i cant tell anyone about it. How do i tell someone like my dad or even a doctor every time i ejaculate whether its masturbation or sex that i get these symptoms. Its too embarrassing. This may be the worse disease known to mankind. I am in college right now and everyday is hell during my recovering. Just wondering, does anyone else here feel like you're a super version of yourself once you are fully recovered?

[gcrisp]

absolutely

[gcrisp]

WHAT IS POIS?

A discussion point.

Basically, POIS is:
A reaction, sometimes quite severe, that follows orgasm, and in some critical cases, just the thought of orgasm.

There are hundreds of lists of symptoms on this thread.
Most tend to hover around the kind of symptoms you would experience from your brains inability to handle the event.

Our brains can get the wrong messages and act inapropriately in resolving a perceived issue.
Why?

My theory on this, is that in our current environment, or our personal environment we are not getting the nutrients that our brain needs to be

fully functional.

Please keep reading!

Our current environment:
We buy vegetables from our supermarket, vegetables that 100 years ago would have had maybe 40 nutrients in them.
Today?, due to overfarming and sheer demand, we are lucky if those same vegetables have 10% of the nutrients they once had.

Our personal environment:
Our wife/mother/husband/father always goes to the same supermarket, a supermarket that gets produce from the same sources year after year.
So our nutrient intake hardly varies, and certainly doesn't expand sufficiently to provide us with the 90 essential nutrients our bodies need.
Not only that, a similar kind of food is always placed on the table, so where is the variation?

Now, surprisingly, I DO NOT think this causes POIS!!
I think this results in us being prone to other types of medical conditions such as migraine, depression, mild epilepsy and a dozen others.
Now, being prone doesn't mean you are going to get these conditions all the time, or even at all.

Generally, conditions like these are "trigerable" given the right stimulus. (you are poised on the brink-- no joke)
The stimulus may be a food allergy, may be a flashing light, may be excess stress, may be an orgasm.
ORGASM IS ONE OF THE MOST PROFOUND (AND USUALLY MOST GRATIFYING) EVENTS THAT WE SUBJECT OUR BODY TO.
So, orgasm stands out as a major trigger posibility.

And what a tragedy that a POIS sufferer has to endure the after effects.

Lets look elsewhere:
We have a headache.
SO we take asprin or ibuprofen.
In case A, the headache is from overwork. The headache diminishes, and next day all is well.
In case B, the headache is from a brain tumor. The headache diminishes, and in 3 months the sufferer is dead.
In case C, the headache is from over indulging the night before. The headache diminishes, but do we learn not to over indulge again?

In all cases we have killed the messenger, not the cause. In case B it was critical.

So, for POIS, where to from here?
We can take the short term view, and find various things we can do just before or just after orgasm that will reduce the effects, just like the

asprin/ibprofen did for the headache.
Or we can take the long term view and try to enhance our brains to be the most efficient and accurate part of our body.
To do this it desperately needs the right nutrients/building blocks.
Lets face it, the rest of our body is running under its control.

My belief (and I have no POIS any more after following this route) is that we have to make sure that adequate saturated fats are available in the

body (the liver helps here), and that our cranial metabolism is just perfect, so that the fats are used for maintenace, and to create new cells.

I have posted more information on the steps to take here:  page #796:       Reply #19897 on: 23/01/2014 21:58:40

What do you think?
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[Kima]

gcrisp

You remind me of one person is Hermana)

[Kima]

Without medical research this syndrome we can not win!!
It will last a lifetime.How many people suffering appealed to doctors and all to no avail



Remember I reported about people who have recovered. So they tell me that if you stop drinking minerals symptoms begin anew.

[gcrisp]

Kima
I sympathise, but you obviously have not followed all the links I provided.
Most GP's and MD's simply fail to understand the problems people with POIS and similar ailments face.
They treat the symptoms and not the underlying cause. They measure the wrong indicators.
So I tried an alternate, non medical route. I followed it precisely for a reasonable period of time and it produced results for me. It probably won't work for everyone, but for $2 per day isn't it worth a try?
I am now enjoying a normal healthy sex life. No more traumatic after effects.
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[johanstefansson]

When i sneeze really hard i strain my penis, its true, hurts like hell  []

http://www.ehow.com/about_5612143_sneezing-groin-injury.html [?]

What am i to learn from this?

[johanstefansson]

try celibacy.it is a sure shot remedy for pois.even in the ancient indian history many kings and emperors have used this way for increasing their cognitive energy.all the human brains are not same,i think people with certain deficient neurotransmitters have pois.i have tried celibacy,it helps a lot.even vitamin d helps.

Restraining is whatever works best at this point, yes. Nothing else works better.

However, try to keep your partner.

[gcrisp]

johanstefansson
not good
Has your doctor suggested a hernia operation?
Probably keyhole surgery these days.
This would not be classified as POIS though
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[RD]

When i sneeze really hard i strain my penis, its true, hurts like hell  []

http://www.ehow.com/about_5612143_sneezing-groin-injury.html [?]

What am i to learn from this?

That pain in the groin caused by sneezing can be a symptom of an inguinal hernia : a medical problem which is diagnosable and treatable.

[johanstefansson]

I am putting together a Google spreadsheet, lets join forces and make it a scientific one.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj7uLiV51rQbdDhFWlZ2NkpHNEExYVlka2MtTmYtRUE&usp=sharing

anyone can edit it, so feel free to add your profile of symptoms

[MrVat7]

I think we poisers might have a problem somewhere in the vas deferns(spermatic chord) , replacing spermatic chord can help in curing POIS.

Readers Please share their views.

MrVat7

[Limejuice]

I think the problem is broader than genital specifics.  I'm affected after hot showers, by sugar and starchy food, physical exertion, as well as orgasm.   Entire body impact like digestive issues could explain this - not the genital system.

I'm focusing on broader systems like digestion...

[MrVat7]

Hello Limejuice

Cool.. Thanks for your response..I must consider your response towards my question..Let us see how time tells us the story behind occurrence of POIS.

Fellow readers Please keep on posting new contents and questions and answers. Let's just make this a super active topic.

MrVat7

[gcrisp]

Hi Limejuice
Glad to see you looking past the obvious
It appears most of the sufferers on this thread unfortunately, don't look higher than the bush between their legs!
I'm not even certain a lot of them want to resolve their issues, they see them as a great way to communicate on threads like this.
That might sound harsh, but harsh it was meant to be
Have a good life
You appear to be opting for improvements in normal bodily metabolism
I am heading a bit higher up to improving mitochodrial metabolism
I would like to know a bit more about your ideas. Have you had any success? I certainly have...
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[Z_Two]

Hi everyone,,,,

Guys just to point out for newbies like myself that there isn't one form and only one cure for POIS. Anyone who get debilating symptoms ; excess fatigue; flu or any bizzarre out of the usual symptoms could fall into so called "POIS" category. Thus the cureS are diverse and depending on each and every case. POIS is like a huge umbrella and underneath it people of various types screaming for help even after the rain storm has stopped.   

Some have weak adrenals; others are autoimmune; others have camouflaged STDs; but in the majority of cases in my pure and only opinion and what concerns the normal healthy population it is neurotransmitters imbalance ( one or several) Needless to mention that the brain is the computer of the entire body,,,if it goes nuts well ...you'll feel it till your nuts!

I am long time POIS sufferer myself,,,the best that has worked for me so far is ST john worts from GNC 500mg * 2. + avoidance of all caffeine and sugar related products and of course long periods of abstinence.

What's interesting about ST john worts is that it is a natural MAOI the best kind of antidepressants and therefore regulates your brain the way it should be + Surprise Surprise it lowers Prolactin! Yes it does you can google it to read more.

Excessive prolactin as oldbie probably know cause severe fatigue and is itself due to dopamine deificiency in most cases,,,Solution ? Try to reinvert them in place! And that takes lots of hardwork and determination and patience then of course maintenance,,,,

Why are some POIS sufferers and others not with regard to the brain ? --> Because some abused themselves way over + excessive sugar ; caffeine and other junkies and/or execessive sex/masturbation,,,While others where able to live a much healthier life.

NOw having said that and just like everything else in mother nature;;;excpetions do exist,,,,some have a very strong body predisposition and could counter or resist such illnesses easily; others simply dont and are already busted!

Now again for the general population here is what I recommend :

Stay the hell out of caffeine and all kind of sugars + junkies
Anything unatural is a No No or  a NutsNuts if you prefer.
Start taking Amino acids 2222 from GNC 6 pills a day in the morning.
Start taking St john worts 1000mg from GNC before you sleep.
Take 2 teaspoons of raw honey with royal jelly and bee pollen everyday. You could also add some Nuts if you prefer.
Take 2 teaspoons of black seed oil every morning.
And last but not least hate bad habits and sexual activities as much as you can for at least 90 straight days!!!

I wish I could write more but the above shoud be enough for the General populationto grasp. But actualy could be immensly helpful to absolutely anyone even if you have rare autoimmune or just wanked to death. Easily said not easily done,,,well I hear you coze we're in the same boat y'all.

Oh plz stay away from antidepressants it will just mess up with your Motherboard till it's rotten. And for God's sake Niacin is not a miracle cure nor fenugreek nor nothing unless ur clearly deficient in something well precise!! Science is precise so let's keep our heads out of the clouds shall we!!

And for those who wonder, I am thanks God 90% cured so far and looking to reach the 100% with the Lord's will. 

Hope I was able to be helpful as much as I can type at once....and please feel free to comment and/or criticize it doesnt bother me on the contrary we're here to brainstorm not to stormbrain   O8)
Cheers and now beat it! No,,,Not your ****!

[gcrisp]

Z_Two
great reading
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[Limejuice]

Hi Limejuice
Glad to see you looking past the obvious
It appears most of the sufferers on this thread unfortunately, don't look higher than the bush between their legs!
I'm not even certain a lot of them want to resolve their issues, they see them as a great way to communicate on threads like this.
That might sound harsh, but harsh it was meant to be
Have a good life
You appear to be opting for improvements in normal bodily metabolism
I am heading a bit higher up to improving mitochodrial metabolism
I would like to know a bit more about your ideas. Have you had any success? I certainly have...
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G, right now I've only begun experimenting with whole body health and opting to investigate mineral deficiency/balancing. I'm also working closely with another POIS forum member who's already experienced significant improvement (and generously they've decided to work with me).  As it's early in experimentation I have no updates at this time, but will certainly communicate results if and when they come.

Honestly your idea's in previous posts closely follow the theory that we're testing...

[MrVat7]

Hi Limejuice
Glad to see you looking past the obvious
It appears most of the sufferers on this thread unfortunately, don't look higher than the bush between their legs!
I'm not even certain a lot of them want to resolve their issues, they see them as a great way to communicate on threads like this.
That might sound harsh, but harsh it was meant to be
Have a good life
You appear to be opting for improvements in normal bodily metabolism
I am heading a bit higher up to improving mitochodrial metabolism
I would like to know a bit more about your ideas. Have you had any success? I certainly have...
g

Hello Gcrisp

How do you explain that there is some problem in Mitochondrial metabolism, which is essentially triggered by an orgasm? how it lasts for exactly for 7-8 days ? how vasodilating helps (niacin ) ? how some people show positive test results to semen allergy ? how taking niacin before O helps and not after that ? how some people catch POIS by microorgasm and for some symptoms start after they defecate ? why POIS starts from puberty or later ? why there is a majority of male POIS and not females ?

MrVat7