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Quote from: Europan Ocean on 23/08/2020 13:41:24Paradise is a precursor to utopia.One made up idea is a precursor to another made up idea.Did you think that was helpful?
Paradise is a precursor to utopia.
Quote from: Bored chemist on 23/08/2020 14:05:25Quote from: Europan Ocean on 23/08/2020 13:41:24Paradise is a precursor to utopia.One made up idea is a precursor to another made up idea.Did you think that was helpful?Isn't there value for civil society to think on utopia in the living years?
Dr Peter Fenwick was once in charge of the criminally insane in I think a London hospital. Dying brains need not be faulty.
I can't say I love Japan to the Japanese and also agree with using the bomb on them. Nor can I say I thing the USA should have spent an extra 100,000 soldiers invading Japan ethically. It is beyond me, because I am just a humble man.
Here is an interview with Peter Fenwick:
It seems also people who regard themselves as progressive also ban some Christian practices such as in California.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 30/08/2020 23:21:35It seems also people who regard themselves as progressive also ban some Christian practices such as in California.What practices are those?
As I mentioned cessationists have a belief that all homosexuals chose to be that way over time,
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 31/08/2020 01:30:21As I mentioned cessationists have a belief that all homosexuals chose to be that way over time,And they are wrong.Which is part of the reason why "therapy" is wrong.But it's worth taking a moment to consider that idea.They believe that some people choose a life of persecution at the hands of various groups of bigots for no discernable benefit.It takes a special kind of stupid to believe that.That "special kind of stupid" is what characterises religion.
Since some homosexuals chose that way
want to change
And some of them are high IQ scorers.
But not that all the cessationist parents and pastors are bigots.
Forcing boys to revert is a mistake. Based on false teachings.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 31/08/2020 12:25:38Since some homosexuals chose that wayWhich part of "the do not choose" are you failing to understand?Quote from: Europan Ocean on 31/08/2020 12:25:38 want to changeWhy?Is it, perhaps because they are persecuted for being themselves?
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 31/08/2020 12:25:38But not that all the cessationist parents and pastors are bigots.Why do they think God made a mistake in creating homosexuals then?
He is the root of the term, "inspiring".
They want grand children. They care.
I doubt they think God made a mistake.
Some choose that way, and change later as with Bowie.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 31/08/2020 12:25:38Forcing boys to revert is a mistake. Based on false teachings.Well, obviously; the true Biblical teaching is that they should be stoned to death.
Quote from: Europan Ocean on 31/08/2020 12:58:54He is the root of the term, "inspiring".No.Quote from: Europan Ocean on 31/08/2020 13:01:34They want grand children. They care.Specifically, they care about themselves and their desire for grandchildren. Not about others.Quote from: Europan Ocean on 31/08/2020 13:01:34I doubt they think God made a mistake.Well, God's in charge and the gay people didn't make the choice so who made the mistake?Quote from: Europan Ocean on 31/08/2020 12:58:54Some choose that way, and change later as with Bowie. He may have changed but that's not the same as choice.I'm not choosing grey hair.