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Quote from: Thebox on 29/03/2015 17:41:07''In the absence of air, or in a hydrogen or helium or methane atmosphere (all less dense than water vapor), water vapor will not rise.''That's not natural on earth is it?There are caves and underground pockets that are filled with methane. But ultimately, who cares whether or not it is natural on Earth? Physics applies everywhere. There is water on the moon, which doesn't have any substantial amount of atmosphere. Titan's atmosphere is almost entirely methane, and Jupiter and Saturn are almost entirely hydrogen and helium.We can also construct small test environments on Earth to experimentally show what happens in atmospheres of different composition, temperature and pressure.
''In the absence of air, or in a hydrogen or helium or methane atmosphere (all less dense than water vapor), water vapor will not rise.''That's not natural on earth is it?
Water at a certain low temperature is a negative polarisation, when emr charges the water it becomes a positive polarisation and the water even rotates aligning itself in field direction.
What you can construct is not natural , it is observer effect. We are explaining evaporation on earth in our atmosphere, relative to our planet not relative other planets with different aspects.
Quote from: Thebox on 29/03/2015 18:17:47Water at a certain low temperature is a negative polarisation, when emr charges the water it becomes a positive polarisation and the water even rotates aligning itself in field direction.no. just no.Quote from: Thebox on 29/03/2015 18:17:47What you can construct is not natural , it is observer effect. We are explaining evaporation on earth in our atmosphere, relative to our planet not relative other planets with different aspects.Experiments require control that requires conditions are not strictly "natural." Yet, we rely on experimental results to confirm or rule out scientific theories. There are certainly ways that an experiment can be poorly designed, and biased by the way that they are set up. But with proper planning, design and execution, one can avoid this type of failure and get useful results.Any theory of physics that only works on Earth is not very useful.
Quote from: Thebox on 29/03/2015 18:17:47Water at a certain low temperature is a negative polarisation, when emr charges the water it becomes a positive polarisation and the water even rotates aligning itself in field direction.no. just no.
Quote from: chiralSPO on 29/03/2015 18:36:33Quote from: Thebox on 29/03/2015 18:17:47Water at a certain low temperature is a negative polarisation, when emr charges the water it becomes a positive polarisation and the water even rotates aligning itself in field direction.no. just no.Exactly my friend.
Water has 3 states of being , all 3 states are a difference in energy.
Quote from: Thebox on 29/03/2015 19:29:10Water has 3 states of being , all 3 states are a difference in energy.energy and entropyAlso water has many states many more than three states of being. There are several phases of solid water (different types of ice) that have different properties, and can be converted from one into the other. Additionally, supercritical water is a fluid phase that is not quite liquid and not quite gaseous. It is really weird stuff that can take on a whole range of densities, viscosities and acidities, just depending on the temperature.
Ditch the pride and allow yourself to fail. It is an illuminating experience.
Never mind physics you have no concept of chemistry. You have dug yourself a hole from which your pride will not let you climb. Actually admitting an error is an important part of the learning process. Not admitting an error is unscientific. Ditch the pride and allow yourself to fail. It is an illuminating experience. You don't have to do this here and now but personally and privately. I guarantee that it will start a new chapter in your pursuit of scientific knowledge.
How many more times are we expected to listen to another crackpot vomit up new "theories of everything"?
Quote from: Ethos_ on 30/03/2015 03:26:09How many more times are we expected to listen to another crackpot vomit up new "theories of everything"?I don't see any further need to listen to (or read) this thread - we used to ignore all the crackpots much more quickly after initially trying to help them see the faults in their ideas, and it does now appear that that was the right approach. They are generally incapable of learning and it's clear that no amount of help on offer to them can change that. All they really want to do is lodge their ideas somewhere in the hope that some of them might prove to be right, and then they'll be able to point everyone towards their bonkers theory and say "See, I told you so!" It's a bit like buying a lottery ticket.
Who are they exactly? are we some form of alien life who can not think ? I presume by they you mean amateur scientists that make up the majority of the forums?
Without they, whom would you speak too? and what about?
We are the ones that want to test science and see how good you really are.
It is not they or a you, it is a process.
Quote from: Thebox on 30/03/2015 19:53:49Who are they exactly? are we some form of alien life who can not think ? I presume by they you mean amateur scientists that make up the majority of the forums?I'm talking about people who want to post their book here and who don't care whether it fits the facts or not.QuoteWithout they, whom would you speak too? and what about?The aim isn't to find people to speak to, but to try to understand reality better. Reading theories which don't agree with the facts or which just go on and on saying nothing of any value is not rewarding.QuoteWe are the ones that want to test science and see how good you really are.Everyone gets their chance to do that, but they get tested at the same time, and if they fail the tests that are set for them they cease to be of interest.QuoteIt is not they or a you, it is a process.It's a process of working out where the best sources of information and ideas can be found and seeking more from those while at the same time working out where the worst sources of info and ideas are so that they can be avoided.
Shall I just skip to the conclusion and explain where lies the answer to everything and what everything is?
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2015 03:56:55Shall I just skip to the conclusion and explain where lies the answer to everything and what everything is? But of course.............be our guest! Just remember one thing, great scientific minds have, for the most part, come short of such a theory and the likelihood of you having a better go at it are quite scant indeed.
Quote from: Ethos_ on 31/03/2015 04:06:16Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2015 03:56:55Shall I just skip to the conclusion and explain where lies the answer to everything and what everything is? But of course.............be our guest! Just remember one thing, great scientific minds have, for the most part, come short of such a theory and the likelihood of you having a better go at it are quite scant indeed.Ok I have done a simple and short conclusion that explains everything.The real theory of everything - conclusionWhere lies the answer to everything? What unifies everything? The answer we always had , religion always had the answer, and I hate to say this , but religion was great science.God is all around us and everywhere, we are not worthy of seeing God, without God, nothing can exist, God allows your time being observed by God.Translated into modern science - Space is all around us and everywhere, space is transparent, without space nothing can exist, space allows your time in space.Space is everything, without space nothing exists, space unifies everything by allowing space, for the occupying of space, by matter, allowing visible light to exist, that allows us to see through space, light interacts with all matter, without this interaction we would see a nothingness. Space allows, time-in-space, time measured by a relative motion increment period , dependent to an observer or object, relative to a distance travelled through space. An orbiting body around a star, to interpret this we will say ourselves, has a life expectancy dependency of a 360 degree cycle of orbit, relative to distance, and relative to speed, relative to the orbiting body, relative to gravitational constant.
Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2015 04:37:50Quote from: Ethos_ on 31/03/2015 04:06:16Quote from: Thebox on 31/03/2015 03:56:55Shall I just skip to the conclusion and explain where lies the answer to everything and what everything is? But of course.............be our guest! Just remember one thing, great scientific minds have, for the most part, come short of such a theory and the likelihood of you having a better go at it are quite scant indeed.Ok I have done a simple and short conclusion that explains everything.The real theory of everything - conclusionWhere lies the answer to everything? What unifies everything? The answer we always had , religion always had the answer, and I hate to say this , but religion was great science.God is all around us and everywhere, we are not worthy of seeing God, without God, nothing can exist, God allows your time being observed by God.Translated into modern science - Space is all around us and everywhere, space is transparent, without space nothing can exist, space allows your time in space.Space is everything, without space nothing exists, space unifies everything by allowing space, for the occupying of space, by matter, allowing visible light to exist, that allows us to see through space, light interacts with all matter, without this interaction we would see a nothingness. Space allows, time-in-space, time measured by a relative motion increment period , dependent to an observer or object, relative to a distance travelled through space. An orbiting body around a star, to interpret this we will say ourselves, has a life expectancy dependency of a 360 degree cycle of orbit, relative to distance, and relative to speed, relative to the orbiting body, relative to gravitational constant.I suggest my friend that nothing about this simple essay has anything new or novel contained within it.And with reference to the comments about God, I personally believe but discussions about deities or any connections with them and the study of science will have little impact at this SCIENCE forum.
I suggest you have given it very little thought, in the one conclusion it unifies everything , including all religion and science.