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Quotewomen who went to any kind of religious service more than once a week had a 33% lower chance than their secular peers of dying during the 16-year study-follow-up period. ....................... worshippers were 55% less likely to die during the up to 18-year follow-up period than people who didn’t frequent the temple, church or mosque. So it's nothing to do with Jesus, then. Or even monotheism. Indeed if you include Buddhism, any deities at all. Apologies for applying the scientific method.
women who went to any kind of religious service more than once a week had a 33% lower chance than their secular peers of dying during the 16-year study-follow-up period. ....................... worshippers were 55% less likely to die during the up to 18-year follow-up period than people who didn’t frequent the temple, church or mosque.
It is a shame you are unable to appreciate the significance of the information.
I will continue as I have.
Every man has his price.
Quote from: duffyd on 01/05/2020 01:36:56It is a shame you are unable to appreciate the significance of the information. I fully appreciate the significance of the information and the conviction of those who give their testimony. I respect their beliefs and would defend their right to hold those views (as long as it doesn’t lead them into sin), however, nothing you have posted amounts to scientific evidence.Many of your posts also bear poor witness to Jesus’s message.Quote from: duffyd on 01/05/2020 01:36:56I will continue as I have.If you continue as you are, you will be preaching which is against the forum rules.Try to concentrate on scientific evidence rather than quoting testimony.
Quote from: duffyd on 30/04/2020 01:31:20HE's my DAD, the ONE I longed for all my life and gave up hope I'd fine.This really belongs in the "God" thread, but it's the key to monotheistic faith.Most people spend their childhood in an environment where, whatever happens during the day, a big man with a beard (or at least a 5 o'clock shadow) arrives in the evening and dishes out justice, forgiveness, pizza, etc. Some of us grow up and assume all the responsibilities of a dad (or mum), including the liability for failure. Others, who lack the guts to be a proper adult, get on their knees and hope that there's another big man with a beard who will put things right in this life or the next, if you ask nicely. And some make a living by embellishing and selling that ridiculous idea, for which there is no actual evidence.
HE's my DAD, the ONE I longed for all my life and gave up hope I'd fine.
Harassing others isn't showing respect as demanded in the rules. The information I am sharing is scientific. If I don't respond to you, don't hope that I will.
Quote from: alancalverd on 30/04/2020 23:59:18Every man has his price.Prove that is true.
What is your point? When was the N.T. penned? You never answered correctly.
Is an epidemiological study accepted as proof?
One that compares people with experiences of God and the supernatural with those in similar circumstances but do not believe in God.
A study that looks at events that have seemingly have no rational physical explanation, and do studies to determine whether these give plausibility to the existence of God.
I just think that God, at this time, in not prepared to be tested and proved.
A period of about five years should do it. It life does not change very much, then I guess I have to accept that I was mistaken about the information given to me.
That will still not change my belief that the supernatural exists. I have had too many experiences indicating the existence of the supernatural.
Seriously, I don’t think these threads are going anywhere scientific.
apples to oranges
Why bear false witness about what the science says?
Quote from: alancalverd on 30/04/2020 11:39:06Quote from: duffyd on 30/04/2020 01:31:20HE's my DAD, the ONE I longed for all my life and gave up hope I'd fine.This really belongs in the "God" thread, but it's the key to monotheistic faith.Most people spend their childhood in an environment where, whatever happens during the day, a big man with a beard (or at least a 5 o'clock shadow) arrives in the evening and dishes out justice, forgiveness, pizza, etc. Some of us grow up and assume all the responsibilities of a dad (or mum), including the liability for failure. Others, who lack the guts to be a proper adult, get on their knees and hope that there's another big man with a beard who will put things right in this life or the next, if you ask nicely. And some make a living by embellishing and selling that ridiculous idea, for which there is no actual evidence. What is your point? When was the N.T. penned? You never answered correctly. You changed your answer but that too was way off as I showed you.
You didn't answer who wrote the Pentateuch so that makes you a hypocrite.
Quote from: duffyd on 01/05/2020 12:33:13Quote from: alancalverd on 30/04/2020 23:59:18Every man has his price.Prove that is true. I quoted mine, the same as Marcelo Gleiser whom you quoted as an example, and BC, with whom I often enjoy a little light disagreement. Three random scientists all give the same figure, so it's a good working hypothesis. The motto is good enough for the President of the USA, who applies it routinely to women he has abused - indeed it is a traditional Presidential motto. So how much would you demand to utter a white lie that comforts many and offends nobody?
Quote from: duffyd on 01/05/2020 12:46:04What is your point? When was the N.T. penned? You never answered correctly. First point was obviously to explain why some people like the idea of a god. But that isn't relevant to this thread anyway.My copy of the NT is part of the Revised Standard Version, an English translation of the Bible published in 1952 by the Division of Christian Education of the National Council of Churches. This translation itself is a revision of the American Standard Version of 1901, and was intended to be a readable and literally accurate modern English translation. I have read passages from the later New English Bible but the language is too "wet" for my taste.I've also quoted the Council of Nicea, which was convened in AD325 and selected the texts that form pretty well all the later editions.Which date do you dispute? Are you accusing the National Council of Churches and/or the emperor Constantine of lying on their title page?
Please answer the question: how much would you charge to utter a white lie? Unless your friend Ehrman actually wrote the New Testament, I'm inclined to believe the guys who signed and dated it.