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Life Sciences => Physiology & Medicine => Topic started by: cruzin4us on 04/10/2005 22:25:58
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Has anyone ever experienced a "thunderclap" headache right at the time of orgasm? I've had this happen a couple of times, and it happens almost spontaneously.
The headache is excrutiating (spelling?). I ended up having a migrane for a few days afterwards as well.
I didn't mess around, I went to the doctor, they did a MRI and found nothing. I was told this happens sometimes for no apparent reason or cause.
Just curious if I was alone in this.....
Honey, I really DO have a headache [}:)]
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I know that when I have many orgasms, I have a headache for the rest of the day.
I am sometimes very emotional and will cry. That is rather upsetting to some men. [:0]
B
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This is fascinating..really !...I do hope we get some good explanations....I wonder if it's a blood pressure thing with regard to the headaches.
The emotional side of things I can relate to, with such a release that an orgasm is I can understand the emotional release...perhaps down to endorphins and hormones being increased in production.
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I was thinking maybe it had something to do with dehydration, but that would probably make the headache occur gradually during sex, instead of very quickly during the orgasm. How long do you orgasm?
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Ive heard of a headache prior to intercourse, followed by a cigarette. I have also known of a lady who liked a willy in her ear, every time my friend went to put it in her mouth she turned her head to the side [:D][:o)]
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Nice one Andrew.[:D]
Michael (https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi11.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa186%2Fukmicky%2Frofl.gif&hash=481319b762ee9d57cda15e90d2e83ee6)
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No, Andrew it should have been [:0]. [:D]
To answer a question, this headache came on exactly at the time the orgasm began, and it didn't quit (I'm talking the headache now [;)]) for a good hour, though I had a severe headache for about 4 days (the migrane type). It truly was the worst headache I've ever had. It felt just like the name "thunderclap". The orgasm ended fairly abruptly as my head hurt to badly. I remember grabbing my head with both hands and thinking "Oh my God, I'm having an aneurysm, not that I know what an aneurysm feels like. The pain went down the back of my head almost to my neck.
Love your comments & feedback [8D]
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Cruzin, would you be holding your breath during the build up and then suddenly release a huge outflow from your lungs at the point of climax? If so this could answer your problem with the sudden headache, as releasing your breath suddenly can indeed alter the internal pressures inside the arteries and veins. A good example of this is a boxer breathing out sharply to increase the power of his punches. I can explain in more detail what is happening if this fits with your experience of headache.
"The explanation requiring the fewest assumptions is most likely to be correct."
K.I.S. "Keep it simple!"
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Andrew: You know, I can't remember if I was holding my breath or not. Good question, and it does make sense.....I know one time I was on my back and it very well could be possible I wasn't breathing. The other time I was on my knees (too much info??) and I don't think I was holding my breath, but truthfully I don't 100% remember as I was concentrating on other things.
I just remember the headache came on SO quickly, not gradually like other headaches, it happened in a split second.
I wish I could answer the part about the breathing, butI will tell you this, I will make sure I breath from now on.....just in case this is the cause. I don't ever want to have another one.
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Laurie,
just like the Zetacap thread, please feel free to make this your orgasm diary thread !! [;)][;)][:D][:D][;)][;)][:I]
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OMG Neil......[:0]
You said my name [}:)].....I should shoot you! Now people will know I'm heavy and have orgasms! [;)] Heehee [:D]
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Originally posted by cruzin4us
OMG Neil......[:0]
You said my name [}:)].....I should shoot you! Now people will know I'm heavy and have orgasms! [;)] Heehee [:D]
OH POO !!.Sorry Laurie !!..I am also heavy and I also love orgasms.....[:D][:D][;)][;)]
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i have just recently starting having these very headaches and even checked my breathing the next time they are very scary..im 47 and never had this problem until lately
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I know what you mean about scary, they hurt like hell. My Doctor assured me there was nothing to worry about, but I had them do an MRI anyway. They haven't happenened in the last couple of months, but I think they will happen every time.
It's not real good for the sex drive....
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Laurie...please keep us updated...I'm keeping a diary of your orgasms here !
Seriously though, It must be extremely debilitating....If it happens again, I would most certainly go back to the doctor and get a referal as it most certainly would effect your sex life and that would overflow into your regular life too and poor hubby would be upset...as well as you too of course.....but, don't give up on the doctors, get hubby to come with you (pun intended...oh dear !!)...just you both get down there and insist something be done because it's affecting your lives/relationships......it's amazing what doctors will do if you complain enough.........
same applies to you wallflower....don't give up on getting it sorted.
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I haven't had a thunderclap headache since July. The doctor had originally put me on a beta blocker, but to be frank it was just another pill I didn't want to become dependent upon. Plus, everything I had read on the internet led me to believe this could disappear and then reappear in 10 years, or maybe never.
I definitely don't want it to interfer with my sex life [;)]
me [8D]
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I know exactly what you mean about this headache, I was on here (internet) right now, trying to find out about this phenomena. It worried me so, the pain for me was so bad I too held my head but it does not last for days, only right when I have the "big O" then goes away in about 5 minutes. It comes on right at the the point of impact, and hurts so f*&^ing bad!
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The power of the event can seam to increased by voluntary and involuntary body tension build up. Cramps and headaches can easily follow the release. I suggest you try changing you position and keep aware of what else is tense besides the obvious. It can be very pleasurable to relax as much as possible during sex as a way to explore the act. Try to concrete on your breathing. Most of all have fun!
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WOW! This sure seems like a strange phenomenon! I don't ever remember experiencing a sudden headache at the onset of the big "O"!!!
I am enjoying my orgasm way too much...[:D]
I feel sorry for you guys that are...lol...[:p]
Joy
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man, I leave for a little while and women start describing their orgasms on here. i like this science!!! guess i should check in more often. [;)]
in all seriousness though. I do find this quite intriuging. (probably because of my dirty mind, but I do find it interesting none the less). I've gathered from what I've read that everyone experiencing this phenomenon is female?? Am I incorrect about that? Are there any males experiencing the same that I missed? I think the differences between male and female orgasms are fascinating!
can anyone who hqas experienced this try to describe your headache in a bit more detail. Especially WHERE in your head the pain seemed to be centered?
Are YOUR mice nude? [;)]
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In your d**k head of course [:I]
What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.
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No headache, just ysually get VERY sleepy. Perhaps in women the reactionis the headache. Or maybe there is a connection?
If I only had a little humility, I'd be perfect.
----Ted Turner
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I heard when we have orgasms are hearts suddenly beat a lot faster that extra pumping promotes the release of waste products into our blood which can cause us to feel unwell. Not sure if its true or not maybe a doctor on the forum will respond.
I also heard that when we orgasm are bodies release endorphins which in men cause us to feel sleepy. Maybe a long time ago when we were cavemen and women it was natures way to let the females of the specie escape from our clutches [:D]
Michael
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Well hope there is a lot of research going into this right now and that why it all so quiet arond this place.
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What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.
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I have experienced this too !!..every time wifey has an orgasm it bloody well gives me a headache !!...and next door...and probably in the next county too !!
(note to self: stop describing the decibel boundary of wifeys Orgasmic cries without asking her permission first !!)
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
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In reguards to:
can anyone who hqas experienced this try to describe your headache in a bit more detail. Especially WHERE in your head the pain seemed to be centered?
The pain is like my head is exploding hurts all over! It hurts a lot on the sides, I hold both sides of my head and apply pressure it subsides soon, but for a minute or two very intense pain. This happens infrequent, but when it does you don't want to experience it again! I know this sounds weird but it is like a my brain is having an orgasm too! I am not holding my breath or doing anything different from other times that it doesn't happen.[:0]
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stop ****ing with your mind! LOL
What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say.
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Originally posted by wallflower
i have just recently starting having these very headaches and even checked my breathing the next time they are very scary..im 47 and never had this problem until lately
People have SEX when they're 47 ??? FOR REAL???
I thought this was just fun for young people!!! (like me...haha[:D])
Joy
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Dr Zagami: Well, there are several types of headaches that can be related to exertion occurring during sex - one is: a type of headache that occurs as the person's sexual activity increases and usually occurs before orgasm and it's related to increasing muscle tension. So it's a muscle contraction headache. This can sometimes be followed by another form of headache, or this other form of headache may occur independently and that's an explosive onset of a throbbing headache that usually occurs at the time of orgasm. And we think that that is related to the benign exertion headache. So, more recently people have described patients who have both forms of headache, occurring either at separate times in their lives, or in close together. And thinking about why those type of headache might occur, both during exertion - there are changes that occur as well as during sex where you have changes in terms of increases in blood pressure, which can actually be quite massive. So, weight lifters can put their blood pressures up by 40 to 100 mm of mercury, and similar changes in blood pressure can occur during orgasm. So, somehow those changes in blood pressure and the accompanying changes in blood vessels seem to predispose to these type of headaches.
its The article in full
http://www.abc.net.au/rn/talks/8.30/helthrpt/stories/s233.htm
Michael
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Originally posted by tootsie78
People have SEX when they're 47 ??? FOR REAL???
I thought this was just fun for young people!!! (like me...haha[:D])
Joy
Joy - I'm glad you're having fun. You have alot to look forward to. I only thought I enjoyed it in my 20's, it was even better in my 30's. I can't wait to see how much better it is when I turn 40. Woo Hoo only 22 more days!!
Carolyn
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Life begins at forty and you will soon know why . good luck[:D]
Michael
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Ok, so why does it get better with age???
Is this like wine? The older the better???
I can't imagine it getting any better than it is right now!!![:D]
Joy
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'Life is like a box of chocolates...You never know what you're gonna get...'
And whats that got to do with sex i hear you ask, and the answer is absolutely nothing.
I just felt like saying it[:D] (wicked film though )
I think the reason why sex gets better the older you get is because.
The older people get the longer they tend to stay with there partners , their not changing them each week and therefore learn more about them , likes and dislikes.
you also get less your hung up on what you look like and therefore are more open and are prepared to try new things.This with the fact that older men tend to care more about pleasing there partners all adds up to some fantastic nights of sticky seminal joy. [:)]
Also and i can't prove this but i noticed a few years back that women's clitorises tend be larger and are more erect the older the woman gets. Well that's my view , ooh i love that view[:D]
Michael
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WOOOOOHOOOOOO Only 20 more days till 40!!
I'm giddy with anticipation.[:D][:0]
Carolyn
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Two words, live streaming [:)]
Michael
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Originally posted by ukmicky
Two words, live streaming [:)]
Michael
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Three words, never gonna happen. Have to leave something to the imagination.[:I]
Carolyn
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ohhh, and imagine we WILL!!! [;)]
Are YOUR mice nude? [;)]
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Originally posted by neilep
I have experienced this too !!..every time wifey has an orgasm it bloody well gives me a headache !!...and next door...and probably in the next county too !!
(note to self: stop describing the decibel boundary of wifeys Orgasmic cries without asking her permission first !!)
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
Received this email today and it automatically made me think of this post.
The year is 2222 and Mike and Maureen land on Mars after accumulating
enough frequent flier miles. They meet a Martian couple and are talking about all sorts of things. Mike asks if Mars has a stock market, if they have laptop computers, how they make money, etc. Finally, Maureen brings up the subject of sex.
"Just how do you guys do it?" asks Maureen. "Pretty much the way
you do," responds the Martian. Discussion ensues and finally the couples decide to swap partners for the night and experience one another. Maureen and the male Martian go off to a bedroom where the Martian strips. He's got only a teeny, weeny ***** - about half an inch long and just a quarter inch thick. "I don't think this is going to work," says Maureen. "Why?" he asks, "What's the matter?"
"Well," she replies, "It's just not long enough to reach me!"
"No problem," he says, and proceeds to slap his forehead with
his palm. With each slap of his forehead, his ***** grows until
it's quite impressively long. "Well," she says, "That's quite impressive, but it's still pretty narrow...." "No problem," he says, and starts pulling his ears.
With each pull, his ***** grows wider and wider until the entire
measurement is extremely exciting to the woman.
"Wow!" she exclaims, as they fell into bed and made mad, passionate love. The next day the couples rejoin their normal partners and go
their separate ways. As they walk along, Mike asks "Well, was it any good?" "I hate to say it," says Maureen, "but it was pretty wonderful. How about you?" "It was horrible," he replies, All I got was a headache. All she kept doing the whole time was slapping my forehead and pulling my ears."[:D]
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lol its 4.40 am and you got me laughing
Michael
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haha
Are YOUR mice nude? [;)]
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John O'Riley was a member of an Irish Toast Masters' Club.
One evening at the local Irish Toast Masters meeting, a contest was held to
see who could deliver the best toast. Well, John O'Riley won the contest
with the following verse:
"Here's to the best years o' me life, spent between the legs o'
me wife."
When John O'Riley arrived home, his beautiful wife asked him how
the Toast Masters' meeting went and he said, "I won the contest for the best
toast of the evening."
His wife then asked him what his toast was, and he said "Here's
to the best years o' me life, spent in Church wi' me wife."
His wife then said, "Why John, that's so nice of you to include
me in your toast."
The next morning, Mrs. O'Riley was downtown shopping and ran
into the local policeman on the beat who had also been at the Toast Masters
meeting with her husband. He said, "Hello Mrs. O'Riley, that was some great
toast that your husband John gave at the Toast Masters meeting last evening.
He won first prize."
"Yes, that's what he told me," said Mrs. O'Riley, "but he wasn't
quite honest with the facts: he's only been there twice, the first time he
fell asleep, and the second time I had to pull him by the ears to make him
come!"
Tom Ryan
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John - The Eternal Pessimist.
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Originally posted by Carolyn
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Originally posted by tootsie78
People have SEX when they're 47 ??? FOR REAL???
I thought this was just fun for young people!!! (like me...haha[:D])
Joy
Joy - I'm glad you're having fun. You have alot to look forward to. I only thought I enjoyed it in my 20's, it was even better in my 30's. I can't wait to see how much better it is when I turn 40. Woo Hoo only 22 more days!!
Carolyn
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Life begins at forty and you will soon know why . good luck
Michael
Not that it's not perfectly wonderful now, and I certainly don't mean to sound impatient but, I'm just wondering how long after I turn 40 does it get better? Is it immediate? Does it take a day or so, or even months? Hubby is younger by 4 months. I wonder if it only gets better when both parties are 40. Hmmm. This is on my mind entirely too much, I think I need a hobby.
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Hey Carolyn, I'm 42 (for another month!) and if you would like to test your hypothesis about both parties being over 40 without waiting for your hubby, I'd be glad to help. [}:)] That way you will have some advance knowledge for him when his big day comes along!
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John - The Eternal Pessimist.
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Originally posted by tweener
Hey Carolyn, I'm 42 (for another month!) and if you would like to test your hypothesis about both parties being over 40 without waiting for your hubby, I'd be glad to help. [}:)] That way you will have some advance knowledge for him when his big day comes along!
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John - The Eternal Pessimist.
[:0]Wow!! What a generous offer, it's nice to know there are people out there willing to offer themselves so unselfishly for such serious experimentation.[;)] Somehow, I just don't think hubby would appreciate my 'advanced knowledge' in this area, and I would like to keep him. After 19 years I almost have him trained the way I want him[:D]
Carolyn
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only took 19 years huh? pretty good! you should wrote a book on it or someting. i'm sure there are plenty of women out there who would like to learn your methods. just don't let my girlfriend read it ;)
Are YOUR mice nude? [;)]
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There are two kinds of sudden severe headache that are very similar. One is the orgasmic headache and the other is the exercise provoked headache. There is debate on whether the basic mechanism is neurogenic or vasogenic. I think that it incorporates both neurogenic triggering and then secondary vascular dilatation.
These tend to be repetitive and benign. So if one has had seven or eight orgasmic and/or exercise headache it is unlikely something more threatening. That threat is the sentinel bleed, a small haemorrhage due to leakage from an aneurysm or Arteriovenous Malformation. The dilemma is what to do when it is the first time for the headache. Dr. Neil Raskin of UCSF in San Francisco is a world expert on Migraine and Headaches in general. He once told me at a meeting that the first time orgasm or exercise headache must be evaluated (Magnetic Resonance Angiography, catheter Angiography, or spiral CT scan.) The odds are not high but the incidence of aneurysms is quite high in autopsied patients.
If one has several such headaches it is most likely the strange orgasm or exertional headache. There seems to be some prostaglandin mechanism but the trigger maybe related to some sudden flux of noradrenalin and/or Dopamine. But all of these headaches are classified by Dr. Raskin as "Indomethacin responsive headaches."
They are well treated by the non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug, Indomethacin 25 to 50 mg. It works best when taken prophylactically. If you plan a run around the lake then take Indomethacin 30 minutes to an hour before the run. Or take the Indomethacin an hour before anticipated shagging. Why Indomethacin works is still debated but not the fact that it does work. It is not likely an anti-inflammatory mechanism but suspected to be a prostaglandin mechanism of the Indomethacin.
Disclaimer: I would suggest anyone with this kind of headache to confer with his/her doctor before starting Indomethacin because of potential side effects, and be sure that you may not need neuroimaging to rule out an aneurysm. Family history of ruptured intracranial aneurysms would make me advise neuroimaging.
Amergin
I was born in a nuclear furnace 13 billion years ago.
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Hi Amergin
Welcome to the site.
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Dia duit. Conas tá tú? (Hello, how are you?)
Slainte.
I was born in a nuclear furnace 13 billion years ago.
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Hey My husband has experienced these so called thunderclap headaches, not every time but once in a while. I often wondered if it was because his blood pressure may have been particularly high on those occasions. He has just found out he has a touch of high blood pressure. HMMMM! I wonder if that could explain them at all.
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I just experienced this particular breed of headache for the first time ever a couple days ago, and it scared the bajeezus out of me. I was thinking "Aneurysm!" too, especially since I have a friend who survived one, and the pain/throbbing sounded a lot like what she described. I was doing what I've done for over twenty years, and it surprised me that I'd have a problem now.
I've tried a few times since then, with the same result all but once. I found greater success by slowing down and monitoring my breathing, being sure not to hold my breath. So, I may not be able to have a quickie ever again, unless this goes away in time. My partner suggested it might be stress related, as I've been through a lot of changes since the first of the year (starting and stopping school, major schedule changes at work, and starting to write a very personal and emotionally challenging book).
Normally, when you go to the doctor and say "It hurts when I do this..." they say "Well, stop doing that." But I don't think anyone here is willing to give up on orgasms without a fight, right?
To that end, I did a bit of digging on google, and came up with the following link:
http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/1439.html
Check out the 2nd question and scroll down for the answer. Pay attention to the other symptoms that can be warning signs of something serious. But it sounds fairly benign, and treatable with anti-migraine medication. Quoted here:
---Another way of classifying sexual headaches is the method that J. Nick, Ph.D. and P. Bakouche, Ph.D. devised. They separated coital headaches into 3 individual categories, split according to time of appearance of pain during sex:
1. early headache, which is usually moderate and short lasting;
2. orgasmic headache, described by a sudden severe burst lasting 15 to 20 minutes;
3. late headache, lasting for hours or days. These sometimes follow orgasmic headaches.
If you experience any other unusual symptoms, such as a stiff neck, see a health care provider for a check-up to rule out more serious disorders. These ailments may manifest themselves as a stroke, brain tumor, or bleeding in or around the brain.
If your health care provider determines that your headache is just a headache, then you may want to take an anti-migraine medication or beta-blocker that constricts blood vessels. If prescribed such a medication, taking one before having sex could help to prevent sexual headaches.---
I had Number 2 on that list, and it did dissipate within 5-10 minutes after it began and I stopped playing, but it took much longer to leave than it did to arrive. My thought is to take it easy, and go slow/breathe evenly, and see if that does the trick, so to speak. I'll see a doctor if that isn't satisfactory.
Anyway, I hope this helps to ease everyone's anxiety. I was grateful to read that it's more than likely not serious.
--Rabbit
Though we choose between reality and madness, it's either sadness or euphoria.
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I have just started having this annoying problem. The headaches happen at exactly the time of orgasm and it feels like my head will explode. The first time it happened the migraine lasted for 3 days and nothing would help.
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Hi,
I came across this discussion whilst browsing for information on these headaches, and have registered so that I can contribute to the discussion.
I have had 3 of these headaches now, [all within the last couple of days] and they are very frightening. The first two, came on very suddenly, at the point of orgasm. The third, this morning, whilst gagging on a bit of phlegm stuck in my throat [I have a bit of a chest infection, i think].
The pain is excrutiating, and is centered directly behind my eyes. If feels like they're being pushed out from behind. On all occasions, i've quickly gobbled down some aspirin, so I don't really know how long they'd last without medication.
Information on the web is a bit worrying - talk of aneurisms and such - so i'll be seeing the doc, later today, if possible.
Oh, and for those who are concerned about age - I'm a 49 year old female, - almost 50 in fact. I've never had these headaches before. I gave up smoking around 8 weeks ago, and am overweight.
I'm off now, to ring the doctors surgery to make an appointment. I'll let you know how i got on.
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Originally posted by begonia
Hi,
I came across this discussion whilst browsing for information on these headaches, and have registered so that I can contribute to the discussion.
I have had 3 of these headaches now, [all within the last couple of days] and they are very frightening. The first two, came on very suddenly, at the point of orgasm. The third, this morning, whilst gagging on a bit of phlegm stuck in my throat [I have a bit of a chest infection, i think].
The pain is excrutiating, and is centered directly behind my eyes. If feels like they're being pushed out from behind. On all occasions, i've quickly gobbled down some aspirin, so I don't really know how long they'd last without medication.
Information on the web is a bit worrying - talk of aneurisms and such - so i'll be seeing the doc, later today, if possible.
Oh, and for those who are concerned about age - I'm a 49 year old female, - almost 50 in fact. I've never had these headaches before. I gave up smoking around 8 weeks ago, and am overweight.
I'm off now, to ring the doctors surgery to make an appointment. I'll let you know how i got on.
Hi Begonia,
Welcome to the forum and thank you for registering.
Yes, Please let us know how you get on ....we wish you well.
Neil
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
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Originally posted by neilep
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Originally posted by begonia
Hi,
I came across this discussion whilst browsing for information on these headaches, and have registered so that I can contribute to the discussion.
I have had 3 of these headaches now, [all within the last couple of days] and they are very frightening. The first two, came on very suddenly, at the point of orgasm. The third, this morning, whilst gagging on a bit of phlegm stuck in my throat [I have a bit of a chest infection, i think].
The pain is excrutiating, and is centered directly behind my eyes. If feels like they're being pushed out from behind. On all occasions, i've quickly gobbled down some aspirin, so I don't really know how long they'd last without medication.
Information on the web is a bit worrying - talk of aneurisms and such - so i'll be seeing the doc, later today, if possible.
Oh, and for those who are concerned about age - I'm a 49 year old female, - almost 50 in fact. I've never had these headaches before. I gave up smoking around 8 weeks ago, and am overweight.
I'm off now, to ring the doctors surgery to make an appointment. I'll let you know how i got on.
Hi Begonia,
Welcome to the forum and thank you for registering.
Yes, Please let us know how you get on ....we wish you well.
Neil
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
Well, apart from the icredulous look on my doc's face, when I explained the problem [he's quite young] nothing much to report.
He took my bloodpressure, which was the highest its ever been - but still within 'normal' readings [136/76]. He looked into my eyes - studying the blood vessels at the back- and he looked at my throat, and listened to my chest. He announced that I have a chest infection, and my throat is quite red [its not sore though]. He then prescribed antibiotics for me.
I asked about the risk of aneurism and such like, and he said that was why he'd looked at the back of my eyes, and that if i'd any bleed problems within my brain, he'd be able to see it on the blood vessels there. Since they are normal, then the vessels inside my brain must be normal too. Not entirely sure that this is true - sounds a bit dodgy to me - but hey, he's had the training, not me.
So, i'm on antibiotics. The 'object of my desire' - and original deliverer of the first two headaches, meanwhile, has panicked and announced that we'll be celibate from now on.
Oh joy! Just as i was beginning to enjoy myself, too!!!
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Oh great !!...I'm surprised he didn't ask you to have an orgasm while he was looking into the back of your eyes !!
Sorry you felt you were not looked after to your satisfaction....methinks you might require a girly doctor !!
I do wish you well and feel sorry for you and your orgasm giver ! who has now become a monk.
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
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Hello. I'm 19, male, and just had my second headache of this sort. This one being worse than the first. It must be a common thought that you're having an aneurism, because I thought the same thing. I had to sit up, hold my temples, and breath slowly. It didn't last much longer than 2 minutes.
My biggest pain was in my temples. This lead me to believe at first it had something to do with allergies and sinuses(I'm on two allergy medications in addition to shots... I have them severely, so it wouldn't have been out of place). The other point that seemed to give me trouble was slightly behind my earslobes, running down the back of my neck, off to the sides (Hope this makes sense... Maybe an inch from my spine on both sides). I got a faint dizziness, and my head got slightly warm for a minute.
I plan on calling my doctor tomorrow to make sure it's nothing severe. I sorta panicked when it happened, so I wanted to get online and see if it happened to anyone else, and if so, what it was. I'll try to keep you updated. Just adding my story in, and thanking those with advice.
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Hi Infinitywolf,
welcome here and .....yes...please do keep us updated....I think you may be the only male here who has experienced this.
It would be interetsing to know how related the male and female versions are.
Be well....and let us know how you get on.
Men are the same as women, just inside out !
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Are you still having these headaches ? My husband claims to have that very same headache. It can last anywhere from a couple of hours to the very next day. The thing we are associating it with is his allergies. He began going to an allergist for allergy shots in mid-April. He goes in every week for them and gets one in each arm. The does of these shots gets higher and higher as time goes on. I googled it and it said that it was due to sinus's. We agree that this is the problem but will be seeing a doctor real soon.
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Originally posted by cruzin4us
Has anyone ever experienced a "thunderclap" headache right at the time of orgasm? I've had this happen a couple of times, and it happens almost spontaneously.
The headache is excrutiating (spelling?). I ended up having a migrane for a few days afterwards as well.
I didn't mess around, I went to the doctor, they did a MRI and found nothing. I was told this happens sometimes for no apparent reason or cause.
Just curious if I was alone in this.....
Honey, I really DO have a headache [}:)]
Rosa Flores
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Originally posted by cruzin4us
Has anyone ever experienced a "thunderclap" headache right at the time of orgasm? I've had this happen a couple of times, and it happens almost spontaneously.
The headache is excrutiating (spelling?). I ended up having a migrane for a few days afterwards as well.
I didn't mess around, I went to the doctor, they did a MRI and found nothing. I was told this happens sometimes for no apparent reason or cause.
Just curious if I was alone in this.....
Honey, I really DO have a headache [}:)]
Rosa Flores
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Hi, all. I have just read these many posts and was relieved to find I wasn't alone. I had my first thunderclap headache about 3 years ago, thought I was dying (really) and then found out I wasn't dying-- I was only pregnant w/ twins. I didn't have anymore headaches, though, because twins scared hubby away after 15 years and so there was no partner. A few weeks ago I reached the big "O" and it was great-- no headache.
But now they're back:( They start on one side of my head or the other: sharp and pulsating, right about "the moment of truth." Immediately afterward, the pain changes to an intense throbbing w/ loss of the stabbing aspect of the pain. Seems like it shoots from the starting point to the area right behind my eye- on the same side, lately the right side/ right eye. Then, within about a half hour the pain is dull and throbbing, sometimes "cramping" around my eyeball and it lasts anywhere from a few hours to a couple of days.
I am in my mid-thirties, overweight, non-smoker, with no history of high BP. I lift weights 2-3 x per week & never have it w/ that type of exertion. Also I never had an MRI or anything, and am relieved to read that recurrent headaches of this sort are almost always benign. Apparently it's the first-timers you seem to want to worry about, though I guess if you don't drop dead from a massive brain-bleed at that first thunderclap, chances are... you're okay. Comforting, eh?
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Hi All
I have just experienced these headaches for the second time in my life so I thought I would do some research and came across your forum. It's great to see I am not alone and thought I would share my own experience hopefully for the benefit of others
I am 39 male, fit and healthy with a an equally healthy sex drive.
The first time I had the headaches was in 2002. I had not had sex for a while and had just started sleeping with a new girlfriend. The headaches continued for about 2 weeks until one dday instead of "trying to make myself come" I just "let her do it to me". After that the headaches went away completely until the other day.
After 18 months of no relationship (and sex) I have found a wonderful new girlfriend. The same thing has started to happen. What I can see for myself is that my desire to impress / my desire to experience orgasm with her is having me strain mentally and physically for that orgasm (even when I masturbate) and THAT is whta causes the headaches for me.
Tonight I shall be seeing her and intend to relax, and surrender myself into her capable hands and hoepfully I will nip this reoccurence in the bud!
Ohsauvage
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Hi,
This happened to me today for the third time in a year. That's why I went on the web to see if it was something other people experienced.
It's very scary. The headache feels like all the capillaries in all parts of your head have burst - or yes, mate, like an anyurism and I don't know how to spell that either or what that feels like....Many hours later with some otc medication I still feel the throbbing (in my head![8D] The other two times it happened it actually put me off sex for awhile....I think there is something to it either emotionally or breathe wise or something......
It was excrutiating...I practically drank a bottle of Nyquil to try to dull the pain...Cold Presses, Heating pad...eventually after a few hours it subsided but as I say it's still there....
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Okay, here is the Medical Term for it Coital Migraines! No treatment founded as of yet. Relax and go to the doctor. He will prescribe a medication for you that will alleviate the migraine. I will getting the medication name for you that I know that is used to treat this problem.
"Lo" Loretta
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Relaxing does help - however, I am still getting the headaches and the fear of them is not helping - I have managed to come a few times without having my head split open, largely by taking it slowly and breathing easily.
I am going to investigate acupuncture and will report back on my findings. I have seen others recommend medication such as Beta blockers, however, they are not good for your liver and for men they tend to shut off sex drive / cause impotence (and viagra is not the way to counteract that problem in this particular case if blood pressure is a possible cause !!)
Ohsauvage
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Topamax is a medicine prescribed for the migraine in these situations...but check with your doctor as this medication does not work for everyone! Blood work is needing to be done first!
"Lo" Loretta
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I also have experienced these intense and very painful headaches immediately before and during an orgasm. It hasn't happened often and has only come on during a small percentage of orgasms but to have just a half dozen is an experience I'll never forget. The first time it happened, like I've read in the other entries, you have no clue what's happening. I wondered if I had a brain tumor or was in the beginning stage of having a stroke. The pain came on out of nowhere and went across my head from temple to temple. The headache goes away within an hour for me only leaving a slight hint of one for a few more hours. I will say that when it happens I have immediately taken a few baby aspirin, just in case. I've read all the reasons people have suggested as the cause of these and they all make sense. I'm going to pay closer attention to all the circumstances surrounding my next one. I don't believe I hold my breath but I will watch out for that. I've also wondered if they are related to menopause because I am 52 and post menopausal but I see that much younger women and a few men have had them so that rules that out. I've also wondered whether sinus issues may have a bearing as I do get sinus headaches and the times I experienced this headache I was always on my back and my head was turned to my right for a period of time. Was curious if my sinus was maybe draining, or not draining, and causing this. Another possibility is that since menopause, and on a monthly basis around the time I would've been menstruating, I get a migraine with auras (fortification spectrums). I never had these until 50 either. Could they even be related somehow....who knows. I was wondering if anyone that's commented on this subject has gotten any type of additional explanation for them. I was relieved to see I wasn't alone, although to the people that have written, I feel your pain...literally. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Barbara
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Originally posted by Infinitywolf
Hello. I'm 19, male, and just had my second headache of this sort. This one being worse than the first. It must be a common thought that you're having an aneurism, because I thought the same thing. I had to sit up, hold my temples, and breath slowly. It didn't last much longer than 2 minutes.
My biggest pain was in my temples. This lead me to believe at first it had something to do with allergies and sinuses(I'm on two allergy medications in addition to shots... I have them severely, so it wouldn't have been out of place). The other point that seemed to give me trouble was slightly behind my earslobes, running down the back of my neck, off to the sides (Hope this makes sense... Maybe an inch from my spine on both sides). I got a faint dizziness, and my head got slightly warm for a minute.
I plan on calling my doctor tomorrow to make sure it's nothing severe. I sorta panicked when it happened, so I wanted to get online and see if it happened to anyone else, and if so, what it was. I'll try to keep you updated. Just adding my story in, and thanking those with advice.
Boy, I love Google and this forum! I'm still hurting from my third "O" in a row that gave me the same symptoms that you describe. I'm wondering... from what I've read here, some of us have had some sort of sinus drainage. Personally I have had a difficult time swallowing for the past little while combined with an unusually thick phlegm deep in my throat. This has caused me to constantly "clear".
I've been through a recent treatment of antibiotics for a weird staph infection that developed on my arm. The eruptions on my arm are gone, but the (sinus?) drainage remains. I mention all this because until recently I've never had any health issues, so I feel that they are related somehow. Maybe it's just age related stuff (just turned 50)?
I have scheduled an appointment with an ENT Doc after the weekend to investigate. I'll mention the coital migraine and all the rest while there.
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Originally posted by begonia
Hi,
I came across this discussion whilst browsing for information on these headaches, and have registered so that I can contribute to the discussion.
I have had 3 of these headaches now, [all within the last couple of days] and they are very frightening. The first two, came on very suddenly, at the point of orgasm. The third, this morning, whilst gagging on a bit of phlegm stuck in my throat [I have a bit of a chest infection, i think].
The pain is excrutiating, and is centered directly behind my eyes. If feels like they're being pushed out from behind. On all occasions, i've quickly gobbled down some aspirin, so I don't really know how long they'd last without medication.
Information on the web is a bit worrying - talk of aneurisms and such - so i'll be seeing the doc, later today, if possible.
Oh, and for those who are concerned about age - I'm a 49 year old female, - almost 50 in fact. I've never had these headaches before. I gave up smoking around 8 weeks ago, and am overweight.
I'm off now, to ring the doctors surgery to make an appointment. I'll let you know how i got on.
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Originally posted by Barb
I also have experienced these intense and very painful headaches immediately before and during an orgasm. It hasn't happened often and has only come on during a small percentage of orgasms but to have just a half dozen is an experience I'll never forget. The first time it happened, like I've read in the other entries, you have no clue what's happening. I wondered if I had a brain tumor or was in the beginning stage of having a stroke. The pain came on out of nowhere and went across my head from temple to temple. The headache goes away within an hour for me only leaving a slight hint of one for a few more hours. I will say that when it happens I have immediately taken a few baby aspirin, just in case. I've read all the reasons people have suggested as the cause of these and they all make sense. I'm going to pay closer attention to all the circumstances surrounding my next one. I don't believe I hold my breath but I will watch out for that. I've also wondered if they are related to menopause because I am 52 and post menopausal but I see that much younger women and a few men have had them so that rules that out. I've also wondered whether sinus issues may have a bearing as I do get sinus headaches and the times I experienced this headache I was always on my back and my head was turned to my right for a period of time. Was curious if my sinus was maybe draining, or not draining, and causing this. Another possibility is that since menopause, and on a monthly basis around the time I would've been menstruating, I get a migraine with auras (fortification spectrums). I never had these until 50 either. Could they even be related somehow....who knows. I was wondering if anyone that's commented on this subject has gotten any type of additional explanation for them. I was relieved to see I wasn't alone, although to the people that have written, I feel your pain...literally. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Barbara
Barbara,
I, too, am having an unusual sinus drainage deep in my throat. I'm constantly clearing this phlegm. This seems to be a common sympton shared by several of us. I'm going to treat that and see if the head explosions stop.
Eric
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I too have experienced these frightening headaches. I experienced one with an orgasm, but I also experienced one under a different circumstance. I thought this might be helpful in figuring it all out.
I was singing with my husband's band. They had given me little warning, and so I rushed up, a bit out of breath and started to sing. It was outdoors, and I was facing the sun. Out of nowhere I got this Bam! headache. As others have described it - behind my eyes, incrdeibly intense pain. I somehow continued singing, went off stage, sat down and then the throbbing began. This stupid headache lasted 2-3 days. I am tired of taking so many pain pills, even if they are otc.
I too have sinus issues. I have a cyst in one sinus which causes blockage. As a result of this as soon as winter rolls around I clean out my sinuses every day using a ball syringe. This helps me cut down on colds considerably, and also on headaches. All my life my headaches have been behind my eyes, in the front of my head.
So the commonality of sinus issues would seem to be important. And I also agree with concentrating on breathing, as when I have done that I have not experienced it. But Who! wants to concentrate on breathing while in the throes of passion!?
Ah well...discovering this forum has been very helpful and at least put my fears to rest.
Sara
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Originally posted by XsAir
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Originally posted by Barb
I also have experienced these intense and very painful headaches immediately before and during an orgasm. It hasn't happened often and has only come on during a small percentage of orgasms but to have just a half dozen is an experience I'll never forget. The first time it happened, like I've read in the other entries, you have no clue what's happening. I wondered if I had a brain tumor or was in the beginning stage of having a stroke. The pain came on out of nowhere and went across my head from temple to temple. The headache goes away within an hour for me only leaving a slight hint of one for a few more hours. I will say that when it happens I have immediately taken a few baby aspirin, just in case. I've read all the reasons people have suggested as the cause of these and they all make sense. I'm going to pay closer attention to all the circumstances surrounding my next one. I don't believe I hold my breath but I will watch out for that. I've also wondered if they are related to menopause because I am 52 and post menopausal but I see that much younger women and a few men have had them so that rules that out. I've also wondered whether sinus issues may have a bearing as I do get sinus headaches and the times I experienced this headache I was always on my back and my head was turned to my right for a period of time. Was curious if my sinus was maybe draining, or not draining, and causing this. Another possibility is that since menopause, and on a monthly basis around the time I would've been menstruating, I get a migraine with auras (fortification spectrums). I never had these until 50 either. Could they even be related somehow....who knows. I was wondering if anyone that's commented on this subject has gotten any type of additional explanation for them. I was relieved to see I wasn't alone, although to the people that have written, I feel your pain...literally. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Barbara
Barbara,
I, too, am having an unusual sinus drainage deep in my throat. I'm constantly clearing this phlegm. This seems to be a common sympton shared by several of us. I'm going to treat that and see if the head explosions stop.
Eric
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Originally posted by Barb
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Originally posted by XsAir
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Originally posted by Barb
I also have experienced these intense and very painful headaches immediately before and during an orgasm. It hasn't happened often and has only come on during a small percentage of orgasms but to have just a half dozen is an experience I'll never forget. The first time it happened, like I've read in the other entries, you have no clue what's happening. I wondered if I had a brain tumor or was in the beginning stage of having a stroke. The pain came on out of nowhere and went across my head from temple to temple. The headache goes away within an hour for me only leaving a slight hint of one for a few more hours. I will say that when it happens I have immediately taken a few baby aspirin, just in case. I've read all the reasons people have suggested as the cause of these and they all make sense. I'm going to pay closer attention to all the circumstances surrounding my next one. I don't believe I hold my breath but I will watch out for that. I've also wondered if they are related to menopause because I am 52 and post menopausal but I see that much younger women and a few men have had them so that rules that out. I've also wondered whether sinus issues may have a bearing as I do get sinus headaches and the times I experienced this headache I was always on my back and my head was turned to my right for a period of time. Was curious if my sinus was maybe draining, or not draining, and causing this. Another possibility is that since menopause, and on a monthly basis around the time I would've been menstruating, I get a migraine with auras (fortification spectrums). I never had these until 50 either. Could they even be related somehow....who knows. I was wondering if anyone that's commented on this subject has gotten any type of additional explanation for them. I was relieved to see I wasn't alone, although to the people that have written, I feel your pain...literally. Any additional info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Barbara
Barbara,
I, too, am having an unusual sinus drainage deep in my throat. I'm constantly clearing this phlegm. This seems to be a common sympton shared by several of us. I'm going to treat that and see if the head explosions stop.
Eric
Eric,
I don't know why my response didn't post but I'll try one last time. I have the same post nasal drip that you describe. It's very bad. I've given it much thought since finding this site and the thing that doesn't make sense if it IS sinus related, is why ONLY during orgasm?....atleast for the majority of us. THAT'S the million dollar question. I would think that we'd get these more often and under all kinds of conditions but we don't for some reason. Hopefully if we all put our heads together we'll figure it out. There has to be one thing we all have in common and just haven't hit on it yet. I'm gonna' be checking this daily and eventually maybe we'll all be lucky enough to figure this out and end these once and for all. Nobody should ever have to suffer from these....they're horrendous.
Barbara
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Originally posted by XsAir
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Originally posted by Infinitywolf
Hello. I'm 19, male, and just had my second headache of this sort. This one being worse than the first. It must be a common thought that you're having an aneurism, because I thought the same thing. I had to sit up, hold my temples, and breath slowly. It didn't last much longer than 2 minutes.
My biggest pain was in my temples. This lead me to believe at first it had something to do with allergies and sinuses(I'm on two allergy medications in addition to shots... I have them severely, so it wouldn't have been out of place). The other point that seemed to give me trouble was slightly behind my earslobes, running down the back of my neck, off to the sides (Hope this makes sense... Maybe an inch from my spine on both sides). I got a faint dizziness, and my head got slightly warm for a minute.
I plan on calling my doctor tomorrow to make sure it's nothing severe. I sorta panicked when it happened, so I wanted to get online and see if it happened to anyone else, and if so, what it was. I'll try to keep you updated. Just adding my story in, and thanking those with advice.
Boy, I love Google and this forum! I'm still hurting from my third "O" in a row that gave me the same symptoms that you describe. I'm wondering... from what I've read here, some of us have had some sort of sinus drainage. Personally I have had a difficult time swallowing for the past little while combined with an unusually thick phlegm deep in my throat. This has caused me to constantly "clear".
I've been through a recent treatment of antibiotics for a weird staph infection that developed on my arm. The eruptions on my arm are gone, but the (sinus?) drainage remains. I mention all this because until recently I've never had any health issues, so I feel that they are related somehow. Maybe it's just age related stuff (just turned 50)?
I have scheduled an appointment with an ENT Doc after the weekend to investigate. I'll mention the coital migraine and all the rest while there.
Excellent idea! I am sure your doctor will know what is right for you![:D]
"Just Me, Lo" Loretta
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Thanks for talking about this. I am a 21 year old female, and I started having this problem four days ago. I thought it was just a coincidence, but it has occurred 6 times. My boyfriend and I keep trying and hope that it won't happen, but every time, about 10 seconds before I am about to have an orgasm, the headache comes and I have to stop. The first time it happened, the pain hit me right as I climaxed - it hit me so hard I couldn't see. Now, it builds for about 10 seconds and then sometimes takes a day to go away. What the hell?!?! I called my gyno and she was at a loss. Has anyone been able to get rid of this prolem?
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I beleive if you had experienced any kind of sudden, extreme headache (Thunderclap) that you should seek medical advice. I base this on past experience and online research (most online professionals reccommend you consult your GP, just to rule out anything untoward).
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Hey i have been suffering from exploding pain on left side of the head and left eye immediately before and after the orgasm for the last 7 days.I'm 32/M and never had this problem before.Two months back i suffered from acute lower back pain and went to chiropractor and he has been adjusting my spine for disc subluxation (slip disc) till date. Also my libido has decreased a lot and i am experiencing difficulty in maintaining full erection and also amount of semen ejaculation has dropped significantly. I am going total nuts now as this all is really scary. can some body shed some light on this.
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I've been having this same trouble and upon further research found that they're considered to be exertion headaches.
What I don't understand is that I don't get these headaches if I exert myself in otherways.
I've had this situation previously approximately 5 years ago & it went away with a little abstinence.
I hope this helps anyone.
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Hey i have been suffering from exploding pain on left side of the head and left eye immediately before and after the orgasm for the last 7 days.I'm 32/M and never had this problem before.Two months back i suffered from acute lower back pain and went to chiropractor and he has been adjusting my spine for disc subluxation (slip disc) till date. Also my libido has decreased a lot and i am experiencing difficulty in maintaining full erection and also amount of semen ejaculation has dropped significantly. I am going total nuts now as this all is really scary. can some body shed some light on this.
Like the first poster here, the first thing you should do is see your Doctor.
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Thx binxy and NewBill. My pain has stopped now. It occured during the first week when i posted my problem. Now it has gone completely. But one thing is for sure that we r amongst 1% of the population which is suffering from this problem. So mates in a way we r unique ;-)(Just kiddin)
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I'm leaning towards a blood pressure issue. I had my first orgasm headache 3 days ago. I was having extremely vigorous sex with my wife "doggy style" and at the exact moment of orgasm I had the most tremendous, intense headache ever. It came on powerfully all at once, so much so that I lost my vision and became weak and faint and had to drop on my back. I felt it mainly in my temples in the first split second then it exploded in a quick, pulsating pain all over my head but mainly my temples, behind my eyes, below my ears, and on either side of the base of my head where my spine enters. It felt like a bomb went off in my head. It was the most pain I have ever experienced. I laid there half-blind and in agony, grabbing my head and freaking out my wife, concentrating on deep, slow breathing trying to "calm the pain down". After a minute I was able to open my eyes. SHortly after, I begin to see clearly and the pain was all gone after 5 minutes leaving only a twitching right eyelid for an hour or so.
I have never had problems with headaches of any kind and I too thought I was about to die. I've done some research and can report the following: I repeated the experience, but no where near as intensly, yesterday while masterbating. It felt closely related to my blood pressure and breathing. I have gained 30 pounds over the last year and my blood pressure has been on my mind. I bought a BP machine and over the last 2 days I have averaged 139/89 which is a borderline problem. As a test I put the machine on this evening, started masterbating, and hit "start" about 2 seconds prior to climax. My pressure was through the roof at 187/98 and the pulsing of the intense pain in my head was keeping time with the blinking pulse light on the machine. I am fairly certain that my weight gain aver the last year has increased my blood pressure and is causing these headaches during orgasm.
I will start a weight lose regimen, monitor my BP, and report back in the future. As a side topic, this is really wierding me out. I'm afraid to have sex for fear of that pain....and I'm a sex-loving fool!! The first, original thunderclap was actually traumatic. I don't think that's too strong of a word. stage1power@yahoo.com
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I was just wondering how to protect my rear
After all that thunder what will appear?
I’m afraid to look as it could be freighting
It may be gross and it may be a crass
But will i get a dreadful hot flash
of lighting up my …….! [;D]
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New to site, found it looking for answers to Thunderclap Headaches/ Not Strokes or Aneurisms Like You Thought.... before I died in bed in compromising conditions for my children to find. Thankful for reassurance of knowing I am not alone, nor frigid or whatever.. Can't add anything different except add to statistics (62, F, never had this problem before this week, doesn't matter the position, DON'T have sinus problems that I know of, AM overweight, think I don't breathe correctly even out of bed as I am constantly yawning, (which I believe is a reflex to get more oxygen into body).
Headache comes instantly, during buildup to orgasm - which it effectively kills - , behind eyes and forehead, (will also describe pain as 'excruciating' like everyone else), lingers next day at top of head in form of dull headache.
Web site warns site has had no new activity in past 120 days, and I'm not able to add much new, except that I take the antidepressant Zoloft, and am also taking natural hormones in cream application and still get period. I had wondered if the hormone creams might be messing up my hormonal balance (I use hormones to counter developing diabetes), or if any of the Beta Blockers mentioned were used by anyone also on an antidepressant.
I am desperate to know if anyone found any new developments to add what I've just read, or can mention if doctors prescribed anything that works. I've been alone for the last 15 years and have just started a relationship so would like to be able to relax and enjoy a second chance and know its not over and done with just because of my age.
Judy
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all right well I'm at a total loss of what caused this but I'll tell my story (with some basic things left out to help conceal my idenity I'm in highschool gotta keep this stuff confidential you know) I'm seventeen so i think blood pressure is out of the question but who knows i have recently been on a diet of fruits veggies oatmeal eggs lean meat... and subway (once again i'll explain subway being a staple food by simply saying "I'm seventeen") and i have been on this for about a month now... it didn't start happening till just recently and the crazy thing is the symptoms fit all of your descriptions perfectly. the first time i experienced this is when i had some whip lash but it was routine in the sport i play (played since i was 10) but all of the sudden that headache came on... went away i went back in and finished the game... later that night i found a fortune cookie and i said "this will be about one of my 3 dreams" to my dad before i opened it. 1 of them being undisclosed and the other to get back or get over a girl i was dating i just said 3 cuz he knew the undisclosed one and i wanted to throw him off the fact that i was pining over my ex (i have a strong sense of pride with my family but we're all kinda friends more on this later)... strangely enough the fortune cookie said "your wish that is dearest to you will come true" and i was like OH SNAP THIS MEANS...!!! later that night I'm entertaining myself in my bro's room(he has a computer in it) and then right as i orgasm bam the pain comes back again only worse i fall out of my chair to the ground rolling around and the groans attract someones attention each pound on the door made the urgency to get over the headache more and more but it just wouldn't go away... so i left the door locked as i rolled around on the ground eventually my brother was like watever and left... i later told my family i stubbed my toe but the look in there eyes that at some point i was masterbating cuz the door was locked was painfully obvious... a few days passed i tried again in the shower everything is going GREAT talking to a new girl so my confidence was up made it easy (i was about to take a normal length shower as a teenager, crazy stuff huh?) all the sudden i feel it start to come back and I'm like OH GOD i stop what I'm doing right there on the spot don't orgasm and the headache is only minor... so this is my problem now i just completely cant masterbate even if i can stand the pain one of my family members will surely find out and thats just embarrassing.. but here comes the good part now that the wants of my penis is out of the picture i dont like that girl anymore.. it turns out i was we were leading a shallow relationship (then again most of you folks have been in high school) well my point is since no one knows what causes this everyone should be careful what they wish for... cuz 5 days now on my spring break (always the record breaking time of the year for me) and i haven't done it since sunday ... just for the record I'd take a broken heart with an enjoyable sex experience anyday over what i have now ... feel free to leave your sympathy cuz my lower section has been feeling pretty neglected lately i think
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To those who think this is age related, I'm 16, and have just started having this problem.
After returning from a long holiday, my girlfriend and I were making love, in a way requiring no exertion on my part (due to an injury I sustained on holiday, soon to be explained) and as I felt I was about to orgasm, a stabbing pain developed in the rear left portion of my brain. Clutching my head obviously scared my girlfriend a lot, and ever since, with her or on my own, exertion or no exertion, I experience this pain. I have never had any sexual problems before. The headache reduces dramatically after a minute or two, but a dull ache persists for a few hours.
The injury I referred to is a back one - putting out a fire in sweden, I tore a lot of muscles in my back, couldn't move for a few days, and have been on painkillers since. I haven't seen anyone medical about this, but other sufferers I have read about have also recently suffered a back/neck injury. I'm seeing my GP next friday, and will post any answers I get here. I am not exactly perfectly healthy, having experienced a cancerous growth, kidney stones and a minor heart problem, but non of these things affect my blood pressure or my brain, as the heart condition merely causes occasional pain, and no damage.
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G'day
I'm from Down Under Down under. Tasmania, the land of the disappearing Devil. So fast and so sad.
I'm trying to put in a word hoping Begonia I think it was will reply. She was worried about orgasms and aneurysms in June last year? I read that she was given headache tablets by her GP.
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PLEASE HAVE A CAT SCAN OR MRI BRAIN SCAN. I HAD AN ANEURISM EXPLODE IN MY BRAIN THIRTEEN YEARS AGO, WHEN I was only 49 years old.
Now I am half-paralysed and have wanted to discuss this with someone since I was flown back to Tasmania, Australia with a 50% CHANCE of surviving brain surgery.
Strokes are all totally individual.
BUT PLEASE don't let a GP fob you off. Insist!
I'm not usually as directive as this. It took me a few years to overcome fear and learn how to enjoy sex again. It can be done BUT it's better to be safe than go through being so physically challenged. I could talk forever but I really want to say what I've said. No one else has ever communicated with me about a similar experience and in hospital, staff did not want to know. They thought I was obsessed with sex
Patsy, a Tassie Devil lover [:X]
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G'day there again from Wildpats in Tassy. I feel really bad at my only other post which was a red tirade of warning to get help if you're having headaches. I feel I should say that before I had my brain haemorrhage I had had no shocking headaches during sex before. Some of you have asked in this forum for descriptions of types of headache to be described. Orgasms had and still can be an absolutely wonderful part of my life. The one I suffered before my aneurysm began as if a steel band was being tightened fiercely around my whole head. [::)] It meant that we did not continue to the ultimate of the orgasm. I had to vomit. Next day I was found paralysed down the one side after my partner returned from work.
Anyway that's all for now. We in Tas are devastated by the increasing wipe-out of our Tasmanian Devil.
CHEERS
wILDPATS [:I]
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the only thing I notice is when I start to tense up, or hold my breath is what makes it come on. I'm sure my BP is probably through the roof at that time. I don't know, I've tried not tensing up, or to keep on breathing. But honestly I learned early on when I first started having orgasms taking a deep breath in right as I was climaxing made my orgasms last longer...so I have to learn a new way?
Do any of you not tense up or keep on breathing during your orgasm? I'd sure like to know how!
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Lovely Layla from wildpats in Tas
Masters & Johnstone( [?]) sex researchers writing that BP was highest for the female orgasm was the only bit of info that came my way that somehow served to satisfy my craving for information after my aneurysm during orgasm, so YES your BP is probably very high then!
I had always tensed up before climax(part of the excitement) but I don't think I held my breath otherwise I probably wouldn't be here today. [:I] [:(]
By the way, our Tasmanian Devil species are passing on their fatal devil facial tumour by biting during lovemaking. [:(] I haven't succumbed to that practice yet. Have always loved living here on this wild amazing island.
And thanks for the tip about taking a deep breath at the start of your climax. I'd think that would help to have a controlled ecstasy in orgasm (if that's no contradiction)!
Really I think I had this little balloon in my brain from birth that just had too much pressure from other life activities(my job and environmental activities were always full on). I never learned to relax. Wildpats
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Wow!! Ok I just did a google search on 'headache during orgasm' and I found this site...I never realised it is such a problem for people!
I have just recently come out of hospital after suffering one of these headaches. Over a week ago, I was masturbating while having phone sex with my boyfriend who lives quite far away from me, when as I was about to reach climax, this excruciating headache appeared out of nowhere! Now, never having experienced this before, I was in a bit of a panic! Two hours later and the pain was just as severe so I went to hospital where they gave me lots of pain killers,none of which worked, and a ct scan. The scan came back clear, but I was sent for a Lumbar Puncture, just to be 100% sure. That also came back clear. I was sent home but still had quite a headache. 3 days later and the head was no better so I went back to the hospital and they put me on a drip as it seems I should have been straight after the LP! Anyway, they said that the only thing they could put it down to was a thunderclap headache. Now I discover that it is quite common. I have since seen my boyfriend and I suffered the same problem again, but I could feel it coming (no pun intended!!) this time and unfortunately had to stop making love. I really could do with a cure cos I love having orgasms and now I'm too scared to!!
HELP!!!
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have you tried to keep breathing right before and during your orgasm? this has helped me greatly, not entirely mind you....
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Well as yet I haven't...I will try though next time... Thanks for the tip :))
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I got here by a google search, as well. It looks like there are several different reasons for headache during orgasm, and that its good to go to the dr. and get a diagnosis just to make certain there isn't anything unhealthy causing the headaches.
I've had these headaches off and on since I was 16, always in the same place. They don't occur every time. In fact, after the first one it was several years before I had another, and there have been years between up until the one I had two weeks ago.
It was excrutiating, worse than I remember them being before, and located in the lower back of my head, on the left side. It appeared just before I was approaching orgasm, and got worse as orgasm occured.
I have a habit of holding my breath, and had been holding my breath off and on up until the headache began. After I realized I was getting a headache I concentrated on breathing... but I think I still strain when an orgasm is approaching, and either that was the real cause or it was too late to stave off the headache. It ached for a few hours, I took some aspirin and it went away reasonably quickly.
Then last night it happened again. It scared me a bit because the headaches have never happened so close together... the last two orgasms I've had now have caused these horrible headaches. I had one last evening, and my head is still killing me this morning, certainly not as bad as a migraine now but the ache is still intense.
I've been worried that holding my breath has damaged something in my brain. I try not to hold my breath, but I just end up doing it. I'm just scared, and wish I had medical insurance so I could go get this checked out!
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Cannot you have your condition checked out without medical insurance? What about university medical schools if there are no public health places to go to?
Wildpats
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I could have it checked, yes, but it will cost money that I don't have.
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SEXUAL BENIGN HEADACHES
Headaches can be associated with sexual activity, especially with orgasm. There are two types of these headaches. In the first type, the excitement accompanying intercourse causes muscle contraction in the head and neck, thus leading to head pain.
The second type is a vascular headache. It is a very intense, severe headache usually occurring just before orgasm. It has been called an "orgasmic headache" or "orgasmic cephalalgia." In some instances, the headache is a response to an increase in blood pressure, in which the blood vessels dilate. The headache is not usually related to the amount of physical exertion involved in intercourse. The pain may be located around or behind the eyes. It usually lasts a few minutes, but can last for hours. The headache is usually made worse by movement. The headache most often is a "benign" orgasmic headache; however, the possibility of organic disease should be thoroughly investigated.
A headache occurring with orgasm could be a symptom of a brain hemorrhage (bleeding around or inside the brain), stroke or tumor. An accompanying stiffness in the neck may be an indication of bleeding into the spinal fluid. The benign orgasmic headache occurs more frequently in men than women and usually strikes migraine sufferers.
Benign orgasmic headache is often effectively treated with migraine medications such as blood-vessel constricting agents, taken before intercourse.
http://www.headaches.org/consumer/topicsheets/sexual.html
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I have this problem and had gone through all the diagnostic procedures, so I thought I would share my experience in the hopes that it helps someone out there. I am a healthy, tall, Caucasian male in his early 20s living in the Midwest.
My issue: For a period lasting 1-3 weeks once every two to three years (random time intervals) I would get unbelievably intense thunderclap headaches (that were so painful I cannot even describe them) during masturbation or sex right as I climaxed. The headaches would peak in intensity and last only a few minutes, then quickly dissolve to a duller pain for the next hour or two. During peak intensity, I could barely keep my eyes open due to a feeling of pressure and pain, and every heartbeat would resonate in my skull and arteries in my neck. I coincidentally found that I could recreate the exact headaches and symptoms during this time period if I did strength training (heavy weight lifting, specifically chest and shoulders I noticed, although it could be any muscle group) but not during cardio workouts. The onset when strength training was after 6-7 reps in a 10 rep set on the first set. I had no unusual habits during sex or masturbation worth mentioning that could have contributed to this. I also don't remember any stressful life situations that may have contributed during these time periods. I had originally experienced these headaches in my early teens and had them appear and disappear about 4-6 times, each like I said for 1-3 weeks in duration, and then going dormant for 2-3 years. I don't get migraines otherwise.
Diagnosis: I immediately sought diagnosis after reading online that it could potentially be related to a brain aneurysm, heart problems, or some other emergency medical conditions. I went to an emergency room and received a CT scan on my brain that turned up no preliminary problems. I followed up within the next few days with a neurologist (while the headaches were still occurring) and during this time I received a full brain and neck MRI with and without contrast. They immediately ruled out a brain aneurysm, any conditions with my heart or cardiovascular system (including arteries and veins in my head and neck), as well as any other swelling of the brain, stroke, tumors, hemorrhages, cysts, or other brain abnormalities or issues. From their perspective, my brain/neck/heart were in perfect shape. My blood pressure was in at perfectly healthy level and my other vitals looked fine. One thing they did notice however was a chronic sinus infection on one side of my head which showed no symptoms. They had to treat it with multiple rounds of heavy antibiotics before it finally was gone.
Unfortunately, I cannot tell you if the chronic sinus infection was the cause or not, because as is typical with this issue, it went dormant after a few weeks which happened to occur in the middle of treating the sinus infection and may not have necessarily gone dormant so as a result of treatment. Since I had not gone in for diagnosis during past experiences with these headaches as they went away after a week or two, I cannot rule out a sinus infection being the source on those occurrences.
In the future I do not plan on seeking further diagnostics or treatment unless the headaches occur longer than a month or two. I feel comfortable knowing they ruled out all the serious conditions that may have caused this, and I don't feel like spending a few thousand again on diagnostics when I can wait it out (I had to only cover a small portion of my bill after insurance paid for it, but it was still a ton of money).
Good luck with finding more information on what causes these. I know they are terribly painful, so I hope you don't experience them.
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Does the "Big O" cause or stop headaches and migraine?
We've all heard the old joke, "Not tonight, dear. I have a headache." Right? Surprisingly enough, for some people, there definitely is a correlation between sexual activity and headache or Migraine.
The Bad News First
For some people, sexual activity can cause headaches and Migraine attacks called coital cephalgia (headache), exertional headache, or effort Migraine. Such headaches may be benign exertional headaches that can also be brought on by other strenuous activities. They may also be directly linked to orgasm or sexual excitement.
Coital headaches may have a duration of up to 24 hours, and are more common among men than women at a ratio of 4:1. Although such episodes are usually benign, it is important that they be correctly diagnosed to rule out organic causes. Tests used to confirm the diagnosis include CT scan, MRI, and MRA.
Headaches or Migraine attacks induced by sexual activity may strike prior to, at the time of, or following orgasm.
Such attacks have also been documented after masturbation. There are three patterns of occurrence for coital headache:1
Sudden onset: This pattern applies in 70% of coital headaches, and begins just before, during, or immediately after orgasm. The headache is severe, usually throbbing, and may build over minutes or be explosive. Average duration is several hours.
Subacute, crescendo headache: This pattern applies in approximately 25% of cases. The onset is much earlier than orgasm, with intensity increasing until the time of orgasm. Frequently in the back of the head, the pain is dull and aching. Rarely, nausea and vomiting may occur.
Postdural headache: This is the least common of coital headaches. The pain occurs in the lower back of the head and is greatly increased then the patient stands. This form is more likely to be accompanied by nausea and vomiting.
A Brighter Side To the Bad News
Once coital headaches are diagnosed benign, medications can be taken one to two hours before anticipated sexual activity to hopefully avoid coital headaches. Some medications that may be used are Indomethacin, DHE (Dihydroergotamine,) Imitrex, Zomig, Maxalt, Amerge, Midrin, Propanolol, and common analgesics. If the problem persists, daily preventive medications may be in order.
The Good News
In a recent journal article by Randolph W. Evans, M.D. and James R. Couch, M.D., Ph.D., the authors open by saying,
"Occasionally, orgasm can trigger a Migraine but, in others, can relieve a Migraine. Dr. Couch's data suggests that some women who decline, 'Not tonight, I have a headache,' may be avoiding an effective treatment."2
study of Migraine relief with sexual intercourse in women was undertaken at Headache Clinic at Southern Illinois University. For those who obtained relief through orgasm, the level of relief varied, but it is interesting to note that of those who obtained any relief, the largest subset is those who obtained complete relief. Of study participants, 47.4% had complete relief, 49.1% had no relief, and for 5.3%, orgasm made their Migraine worse.2
In comparing the efficacy of orgasm to that of Migraine abortive medications, orgasm is significantly less effective than triptans or DHE, but when it is effective, the onset of relief is faster than.
Dr. Evans and Dr. Couch conclude their journal article with this statement,
"The issue of suppression of headache by orgasm does bring up the possibility of suppression of one multi-faceted, presumably neural origin syndrome (Migraine) by another neural event (perception of sexual orgasm). Perhaps there are other situations in which an indigenous neural process might be used to suppress Migraine. Certainly there are some interesting theoretical possibilities here."
Interesting possibilities, indeed! Although this study did not include men, Dr. Evans and Dr. Couch report there is anecdotal information suggesting that relief with sexual orgasm may occur in men, including men suffering cluster headaches.
As with so many issues with headaches and Migraine, we find that there wasn't a single answer to our initial question, "Does the "Big O" cause or cure headaches and Migraine?" In searching for answers to the question, both good news and bad news are found, but even for those for whom orgasm sometimes causes headaches, there are avenues of prevention to be explored. Don't give up or be embarrassed to approach your doctor with the problem. The answer might be simpler than you think.
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References:
1 Saper, Joel R., Silberstein, Stephen, Gordon, C. David, Hamel, Robert L., Swidan, Sahar. Headache Management: A Practical Guide to Diagnosis and Treatment of Head, Neck, and Facial Pain, Second Edition. Lippincott Williams & Wilkins, 1999, 241-242
2 Evans, Randolph W. & Couch, R. (2001). "Orgasm and Migraine." Headache: The Journal of Head and Face Pain
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I read this forum 4 weeks ago. Reading through various reports, I found the described symptoms to match mine.
I experienced the first thunderclap headache while wakeboarding (similar to water skiing just with a snowboard). My neck started to feel stiff/hard and pain started to crawl up my neck within 30 seconds. After crawling out of the water, I applied my usual neck massage to cure these things and it went away. The next morning in bed with a girl, I felt like my neck was hit by a hammer about 10 seconds before my orgasm. I had to stop immediately, crawled out of bed and swallowed 1000mg Paracetamol (pain killer) as breakfast. Usually I wait about 1-2 hours before taking pain killers. But no, this time, I fell right out of the bed and there was no other option but pain killers. This was pain I rarely felt before.
The next day, same situation. 20 seconds before orgasms -> pain. The 2-3 days I even experienced this when masturbating. 4 days after the first headache, I went to the hospital. They immediately checked me for SAH - subarachnoid hemorrhage
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subarachnoid_hemorrhage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subarachnoid_hemorrhage). Basically that's a bleeding in your brain and not a funny thing. So, if you see symptoms like these, go to the hospital immediately. The chance that this is the cause for headache is pretty slim, but if it's the cause, you better hurry. They will send your through CT scan, if that's negative they have to apply an additional check to rule out the 30% of the cases where the bleeding is not visible on the CT. Prepare to get pierced at your spine, lumbal punctation. This doesn't hurt but is pretty stressful for your overall constitution (which is presumable weak anyway because of the headache). However, in my case everything was fine and I was sent home with a "Norgesic" pain killers. Norgesic is a mixture of 450 mg paracetamol and about 50mg orphenadrine. Paracetamol is well known painkiller. Orphenadrine is a muscle relaxants that will lower your muscle tone. You will feel a bit tired, but it's ok.
In my case without any further therapy, I was able to get off the tablets about 6 days later. I subsequently lowered the dosage and applied acupressure whenever it was necessary. I later realized that the pain coming from the neck spread across my whole head as migraine.
I went to see my acupuncture specialist that diagnosed a trauma in my the neck section of my spine. I was surprised because I can't remember any injury or accident that could have caused this. However, after a feel needles, and a week of additional timeout for sports, I was fully recovered. Sex and sport without any pain.
My "self diagnose" was that additional blood pressure was causing this neck pain. Try to avoid anything that's related to high blood pressure in your head. Sex is definitely causing this -- We all know porn with actors with cherry red heads. Try to relax your muscles around the stomach when approaching your orgasm by deep breathing. The moment I contract these muscles I can feel a gentle pressure in my head. Relaxing them reverses this effect. If possible try to avoid sex for a few days. In my case, my sex life was recovered after 2 weeks.
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So pleased to read your article and that you have resumed a normal sexand sport life. Unfortunately I was one of the unlucky few for whom a SAH was the result. Not only that: the CT scan didn't happen until after I'd been in the main hospital of a foreign country a few days. Unable to speak the language to the hotel doctor, who gave painkillers, it was not until after I'd become paralysed on one side that I was rushed to hospital. Again with no language in common, my husband had trouble getting the visiting specialists to understand that it was my head that was hurting and beg them to please look inside my head. That was when a CT scan identified the subarachnoid haemorrhage. However, we were uninsured (our misunderstanding) and had to wait for a medical evacuation to be arranged.
Strangely I'd never suffered headaches during or just before orgasms before in my life. Nor was I in any way aware of the nature of brain haemorrhages. 13 years later I still haven't found another person who has also had this happen to them. In the early months after my stroke I would dearly have loved to have found someone else, especially a woman. I'd be only too happy to communicate with someone fearful of resuming a sexual life after such a happening.
Many thanks for passing on advice to others that could save lives
Wildpats, Tasmania [:X]
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Hello world! Wow, what a shock to be 51 and have this weird headache. Left above ear temple area, MAJOR scary, but passes when I stop my attempt at orgasm.
Started about 2 weeks ago. I figured I needed to not drink so much maybe? But then with my gentlemen friend Friday night it happened again. YES, I breath, and like many of you here it happens just right before orgasm, and I have to "STOP", I personally think it could be stress, as the very first time it happened was 2 years ago with a man that I wasn't really wanting to be with (very telling don't you think!) Then again 2 weeks ago by myself. It scared the crap out of me, thinking "Oh My GOD" if they find me dead and vibrators in my nightstand what will they think! I've been doing in home parties for ladies selling products to enhance personal relationships for 4 years. And to date I've never even heard of such headaches. So, today it happened again, I did a Google and here I am!
Now the question is, what to do about it? Anyone have any herbal or lifestyle suggestions? I'd be most grateful. I'm 51 single mom, self employed and don't have time to die or not have some orgasmic release! Appreciate all the advice.
And I LOVE the men are the same as women inside out... amazing what we can all learn every day.
Blessings to all.
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I had a thunderclap headache a few weeks ago. Just as many described here
it felt like vice grip around my skull and ended up at the bottom back of my skull, it started at orgasm and lasted a minute or so after. I went to the doctor a few days later and they did a CAT Scan and a exam, everything came backnormal. I haven't had a TC headache since, but I sometimes awake with a stiff neck and wonder if it was from that expereince.Ill also get a tiny headsche behind my nose and eyes (very slight headache. But I would get a stiff neck before the TC headache because of the pillows and the way I sleep. Now Im just paranoid-I think. I'm debating on whether I should have the spinal tap done, fearing maybe the CAT scan missed something.
Im glad I found this forum so I can compare experiences.
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I also experience these headaches when I have an orgasm. The pain so severe that when I feel the warning sign of it coming on every time I try I am forced to stop. Basically, from a lot of research and talking with other people who have the same problem, the only cure is to stop having sex, stop masturbating, stop having orgasms altogether, for a week or long, it varies. This can be VERY difficult, I know, but it seems to work for everyone who has these problems.
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http://healthgate.partners.org/browsing/browseContent.asp?fileName=14520.xml&title=Sexual%20Headaches:%20From%20Ecstasy%20to%20Agony
That website provides some good information.
Here is what I tried, this might not work for you:
If you are like me and cannot stop having sex for two to three weeks, then take two or three Excedrin Migraine about 40-60 minutes before intercourse. Then, although you will get shaky and perhaps even feel the need to vomit, you will NOT experience pain. I would still recommend, as I am, trying to avoid sex as much as you can, but for when you simply can't, and you feel the need, pop the pills and go at it. I hope this helps some of you, these headaches are pure AGONY, but hopefully through patience and the help of pain killers you can get through it. If not, and perhaps even if you can but it doesn't go away, SEE a doctor! This could be a sign of serious ailments, and if not their are still other options such as the shot previously mentioned or the medication mentioned in that article I linked above.
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Thanks but i need no help with headaches. There was just the one and my life is no longer fun because the bleeding from the burst anuerism has changed not only my sexual performance but every aspect of my physical, intellectual and emotional life. [:-'(] [:(]
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Found this site by google. I experienced my first thunderclap migraine this past weekend. The first one lasted about an hour and a half before receeding to a tolerable pain, but I suffered from minor headaches till the following day., the second one hit 2 days later, both during climax, I went to the hospital got a scan, and turned out everything was fine. I wanted to mention that after 12 hours of unbearable migraine pain in the back of my head and neck, not even morphine could dull the pain. The doctor who diagnosed me mentioned that cat scan pick up about 90-95% of what they are looking for, basically 1 out of 20 people who get scanned could still have a problem and not know it. He performed a procedure called a "Lumbar Puncture". What happens is they freeze an area of your back and take out spinal fluid and test for blood. I just thought I would share this with people, and maybe they could get the procedure done as a safety precaution. It only took a couple of minutes to perform and about 1-1&1/2 hours for results. Hope this helps.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!POSSIBLE SOLUTION PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hello everyone I am 24/M and just recently started working out a month ago at a local gym. I weigh 175 pounds and have a fairly average build.
Three days ago on doing HEAVY Squats where I lay on my back(a pulley system gym machine) and lift about 125 pounds, I found out that after the end of my set, the 2 lobes on each side on the back of my head started hurting like HELL, I got up and walked around and started taking deep breaths through the constant pain and drank some water. In about 3 minutes the MAJORITY OF PAIN went away and I finished the rest of my session of 15 mins more of strength training without any incident. However a lingering pain remained. On reaching home I goggled the symptoms and found MANY MANY MANY WEBSITES describing these headaches/pain affecting MANY MANY people regardless of age and gender.
My first thought was that since I OVER was exerting myself, my blood pressure must have gotten high through the weeks of intense physical training, but on testing my BP after going to my Doctor everything was normal. At the moment my doctor has told me to monitor my BP 3 times a day for a week. and check with him next week Tuesday.
On the 2nd day after I found this website. I tried to masturbate and see if everyones story checks out and yes on the verge of orgasm I had the EXACT PAIN that I felt after the workout on the heavy squat machine. I tried other methods to induce the headaches and found on doing Pushups gave me the SAME PAIN after about 15 reps. Also on Jogging for more then 3 mins resulted in the same PAIN (at the back 2 lobes of my head). Basically ANY sort of exertion in which my heard rate got higher then 130 bips/min.
SOLUTION THAT WORKED FOR ME (COULD be a temporary thing)
Now I visited a Chiropractor clinic that works out of my GYM. On further scanning my spinal cord with an instrument the Chiropractor found intense inflammation at the back of my neck area near the 1st, 2nd and 3rd vertebrate that are localized in between my skull and my neck. The Chiropractor told me that MANY people due lack of proper posture while sitting or sleeping miss-align their vertebrates(this happens over a LONG period of time) which result in a minuscule pinch of nerves that connects your brain to the rest of you body through the spinal chord. This setting will not affect anything when the blood flow is normal, but when the heart rate increases at times during physical exertion or near an instance of achieving an Orgasm, as the blood flow increases, we will feel the pinch of nerves. Even a minor and minuscule pinch could result in intense pain and depending on nerves that are being pinched. Also EVERY SINGLE person will feel pain in a different part of their brain.
After just a single day of realigning my neck area (a very simple procedure, takes a minute with the chiropractor). I felt almost NO pain during my cardio workout. And after the 2nd day of realignment I was BACK to my normal self. I tried Cardio, my regular strength training program and masturbation. I felt NO PAIN during any of these activities.
THIS WORKED FOR ME IT. I HOPE IT WORKS FOR ANONE AND EVERYONE IN THIS FORUM. Best of LUCK
P.S. I would still suggest going for an MRI,CAT,MRA etc scans as your doctors recommend. But if those come Clean by ALL means go to a Chiropractor!
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I'm sure you're onto something, Kush. From what I've been reading, orgasm headaches probably have several different causes - but the back and particularly neck tension theory certainly matches up with my experience.
I'm 46, bit overweight (15 stone = 210 lb), I had my first, appalling, orgasm headache about 8 months ago, a few weeks after coming out of hospital for an abdominal hernia repair op. At first, I put it down to - completely unscientific - 'it's too soon after the op to start sex (or, in this instance, masturbation) again.' But they continued - since then I've had maybe 10 or 12 orgasms and every time except twice, more or less the same intensity of headache. The first pain-free time was after about 2 or 3 months when I realised I'd been getting very tensed up 'trying to come', so I deliberately relaxed myself as much as I could, and spent a long time over it, not allowing myself to get too hyped up! I thought I'd cracked it - but no.
After a lot of thought, and web browsing, I had to admit to myself that my problem had actually begun to show up before the op - but then this was the 4th in a series of hernia repairs (previous ones failed, the latest is holding up touch wood) which have - although I've been slow to realise this - left my abdo muscles in a right old state. I'd already been getting lower back pain, this was added to about 2-3 years ago by upper back/shoulder/neck tension (though not, at that stage, headaches - I've never suffered, certainly no history of migraine, and my BP is normal), which I put down to too much PC use at work - which is true. All in all, the last 7-8 years have been a picture of gradually worsening back trouble largely hidden, I think, because until the last - successful - op I'd been spending a lot of time 'having a lie down' because the hernia was painful, or was 'giving me a bad back'.
Now that I'm up and about again, the back problems are really coming home to roost. My back and neck had got, I believe, really weak over the years and now I'm paying the price. Having said all that, I'm not ready to give up on sex completely. I may be 46 - and 3 kids can have a pretty serious effect on your sex life! - but GPs who say 'it's nothing to worry about' need yelling at, IMHO. Oh, nothing to worry about - just the end of your sex life in a blaze of head-mashing pain. Take some ibuprofen.
Onto possible solutions - I've taken up Pilates, cos I know my core strength is really depleted. I am utterly amazed at how inflexible my body has become - and an osteopath described my shoulders and neck as 'like a rock'. It's incredible, the amount of tension you can carry about before you become aware of it. It's no magic cure - I've only been at it about 6 weeks - but recently, I was desperate to have an orgasm - let's face it, it builds up - and decided to try masturbating after doing about 15 minutes of upper-body, shoulder and neck-focused Pilates exercises. I can hear my neck creaking and crunching as I do them. Well, it wasn't pain-free: but whereas previously the headache was 100% pain, like all your toothaches come at once, behind the eyes, in the roof of your mouth, this time it was maybe 30%. Sort of an ordinary, perfectly manageable headache. Yes, I could feel it approach as I approached orgasm (as before). But it didn't utterly ruin the experience, in fact it was the first orgasm I've enjoyed for about 6 months. Now if 6 weeks of exercise can do that...
So, Kush, I'm off to find myself a decent chiropractor I think - maybe look into head massage. And the Pilates continues; for anyone who hasn't tried it, it's really nice - no straining, slow, deliberate, focused, and safe because your body is always protected by positioning - you lie down a lot! For me, I'm convinced it's a neck tension/nerve issue - and, as Pilates teaches you, your entire spine and pelvis are one big system, you can't isolate just one part. I'll post again as soon as I've any news - please do the same, if there's anything we need it's hope!!
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I am wondering:
Has any of you ever experienced orgasmic headaches that did not come with a thunder clap.
It is this lack of thunder clap that made me believe that from all the cases (1, 2, 3) I seem to be recurrently suffering from type 4.
Actually a sex induced migraine, lasting for days, without the thunderclap.
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Anyway, if this too is a standard orgasmic headache. I concur with Oneeyedguy. Doing physical excercies prior to orgasm seriously reduces the symptoms. I noticed this too when I came back from power training some days back.
Also you could incorporate physical excercises into masturbation. by repeatedly going to the point of no return and then stopping to do something else.
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I'm 51, male, and just had my first one of these. I jumped on google, read a bunch of articles about it and found this site. The discussions here have been helpful. I had the explosive onset type just at orgasm. It lasted a few minutes, and found it excruciating for the first minute or two.
I was definitely not in a relaxed state. Every now and then I enjoy a particularly intense orgasm where my whole body is tensed and my breathing somewhat restrained. I'm not as athletic as I used to be, but I do play some pretty high intensity basketball, mostly with younger men, two or three times a week, and am a little surprised to get any kind of exertion-related headache. I'll get this checked out to rule out aneurysm, but at this point I'm guessing it was one of the exertion-related headaches. Life has been stressful the past several weeks, and for the past week I haven't slept more than four hours at a stretch. Coupled with the physical stress associated with the position and my breathing, I can just about guarantee my blood pressure was very high. However, nothing I haven't been doing semi-routinely for most of my life.
It makes a lot of sense now, but it still caught me quite by surprise. I will get it checked out tomorrow though.
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I had the misfortune to experience my first 'orgasm/thunderclap' headache 3 days ago while alone at home [:I]and for a few seconds i thought "this is it-i'm going to die with my rabbit in my hand!" [::)] It felt as though someone had smashed me at the base of my skull with a crowbar, then the pain spread to my temples and finally the top of my head. It passed within a couple of minutes and i carried on as normal. Perhaps i've just felt a bit spaced out over the weekend if anything, fully expecting a migraine to follow (as i suffer them) but no. It has really shook me up though.
I love masturbating [:X] and to think i may not be able to enjoy it again without that happening is scary!
Of course i 'googled' it immediately and decided to go see my GP today. I have a CT scan and an echo on my neck (Carotid artery) tomorrow, so will let you know what transpires. [:)]
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I went to the doctor, and he ruled out stroke, said it was the benign variety. I had no nausea, and it disappeared in a few minutes, which are key signatures of the benign variety. He checked a few other things like my eyes, but was confident it was not an aneurysm.
It's a strange physiological phenomena... I hope it doesn't happen again. It did help me decide to take my borderline-high blood pressure seriously, and start taking blood pressure drugs. I don't want to stroke out anytime soon!
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Going for an MRA early in January - my GP practice seems to have woken up and taken this a bit more seriously. I'm in a group practice so don't often see same person twice in a row. New GP - very keen - referred me to neurology to get the super-scary aneurysm / tumours / etc causes ruled out. I'll let you know how it went.
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Man, I just had one of these the other day so I've been Googling it to see what's out there. Mine came right at the moment of orgasm, and it felt like my head was going to explode. I was actually pressing on the side and back of my head because it felt like it was ready to burst. I can pretty confidently say that's the most pain I have ever felt in my entire life. It lasted for about 2 minutes and then the stabbing pains were gone and I was left with a dull, throbbing ache that went all throughout my skull and down the back of my neck. Went to the hospital the next day, they admitted me right away, and I opted for a spinal tap. It came back negative but I'm still dealing with a low ache in my head. It started to go away the other night, actually, but I played some video games and it came back! How much does that suck? I'm going to my family doctor for a follow-up and hopefully a CT scan just to be 100% sure there isn't anything brewing up there... It's interesting to see posts from others who experience the same thing, though. It's pretty scary stuff.
Edited to add: I guess I'll throw some personal info out there for those keeping score. Male, 28 years old. No sinus problems or history of headaches or anything similar.
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Reading through completely on this after experiencing a terribly severe version, it would appear that the tension of holding your breath, raising blood pressure and previous injury on neck or posture at the time would appear to be the main culprit age doesn't seem relevant as I'm 67 and they have only happened in the last couple of years however there are various reports of youngsters. It is a terrible frightening experience, the worst being that your partner doesn't realise how totally unbearable and frightening it is.
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I respectfully disagree.
What is being described is a time when the neck is under pressure anyway.
At this time, the added pressure of the sex experience causes a joint to be under such physical stress that the body goes into "defence mode" ... and when it is in such a mode, it will tighten up to prevent injury through further movement.
Such a defence mode has three stages ... one is that things loosen immediately and all you have to do is deal with the effects of the sudden muscle response ...
The second is the three day rule - that is the body keeps itself locked up for 60 - 72 hours to allow things to recover. The third stage is "permanent mode" which implies the joint is not released and the body has to learn to adapt to cope with the slight loss of function.
Sex and the orgasm is only the TRIGGER point.
The issue is that the body is already in a posture which supplies stress to the neck, and this sets it over the edge.
After you deal with the crisis - you have to deal with the underlying issue.
Try this - a long term, simple idea.
I have purchased a double sized tennis ball. They are designed as a pet toy and are cheap to buy. Alternatively a rolled up towel will do as well.
Lie down on you back. Place tennis ball or rolled up towel under the neck.
Notice that the neck is now fully supported on this.
Relax as much as you can, knowing that the neck is fully supported.
Now massage down the sides of the neck ... GENTLY and concentrate on relaxing.
Stop for a few moments, and still with your neck supported, gently move the head and the neck from side to side ... slow, gentle and very small movements.
again twist the head slightly to one shoulder, then the other. Then relax again for a few minutes, then remove the ball/towel and relax for another minute.
Do this two to three times a week - it takes months to work as you are not treating the joint, you are training the brain that it is OK to relax and move the muscles of the neck.
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Not sure if this is relevant, but it may be worth reading and following up on.
Scientists have found that men are more likely than women to be telling the truth if they say: "Not tonight darling, I've got a headache".
A team of German researchers has begun to investigate the phenomenon of sexual headaches - a condition known as Orgasmic Cephalgia.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/2367201.stm
We found that the vast majority of patients suffered from an explosive and very severe headache starting suddenly around the orgasm
Dr Achim Frese
They have discovered that it is three times more likely to strike men.
The headaches usually come on suddenly around the point of orgasm, and can be very severe.
The researchers believe the condition affects around one in a 100 people at least once during a lifetime, but some people are afflicted on a regular basis.
Although the precise causes are not yet understood, it is thought that the condition may be linked to the increased blood flow and dilation of blood vessels that occur during sex.
The German team is carrying out research aimed at solving the mystery.
They stress that people do not develop the condition as a result of particular partners or sexual habits. Neither is it linked to any form of brain damage or disease.
It is most common among young people, and is most likely to strike for the first time between the ages of 20 and 25.
Researchers Dr Achim Frese and Dr Stefan Evers, from the University of Munster, examined patients who had complained of sexual headaches.
Severe pain
Dr Frese, who presented preliminary results from the study at a meeting of the European Federation of Neurological Societies in Vienna, said: "We found that the vast majority of patients suffered from an explosive and very severe headache starting suddenly around the orgasm.
"The others suffered from a dull headache with the pain increasing more gradually before the orgasm."
In most cases the headaches appeared during intercourse with a regular partner, or while masturbating.
Dr Frese said; "About half of the patients had realised that they could avoid some of the headache attacks by intensifying the sexual excitement more gradually."
Some patients were prescribed preventative treatment such as beta-blockers - drugs given to migraine sufferers - or the pain killer indomethacin.
Typically, sexual headaches appeared in bouts of a few weeks duration and resolved themselves spontaneously. Most patients had only one bout while others had two or three.
See also:
27 Jul 99 | Health
Migraine wrecks sex for millions
04 Sep 02 | Health
Family doctors get headache tips
19 Mar 02 | Health
The secret of successful sex
Internet links:
Sexual headache
European Federation of Neurological Societies
University of Munster
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Hi all,
Here is my little story. 35, male, and happy I am not alone though I wish none of us would have that.
I have suffered a major headache somewhere around dec 27. The pain was overbearing. It was located in the back of the head. I suffered a few hours before falling asleep. When I woke up, I was a bit better, with a lesser headache.
12 hours later, I suffered a second thunderclap. Same thing, it went away when falling asleep, but it was more severe.
2 days later, dec 31, a suffered the 3rd one. My wife took me to the hospital. They quickly put me in bed. They gave me some morphine like pills (dilaudil).
They took a scan of my head. It was getting dangerous, so they acted quickly. Nothing showed on the scan. They did a lumbar punction, took some liquid from my spine. There was blood in it, so that could mean my head was filling with blood.
They sent me by ambulance to the Neurologic institute. There, they rescanned me, did an angiogram (they inserted liquid to color my head, from my groin to my brain, very unpleasant). It appears there are no damage to my brain. They let me go as the pain lessened with the pills.
Four days later (jan 4) I am not feeling any better. Normal headache. I have strain in my neck. They have no idea what to do to help me.
So I went to see a chiropractician. Where usual medecine fails, maybe an alternative can help. He cracked my bones, telling me my jaw was misplaced (how could he have known? I suffered a hit on my jaw playing hockey 4 weeks ago), and that was unbalancing my occiput (a bone of some sort in my neck).
My condition was getting a bit better, but every little effort brings back the headache... like going to the bathroom... sitting on the can is now a frightening experience, where I must control my breath.
This is ruining my life for 2 weeks now, I monitor my blood pressure, cause I feel it is related. I see the chiro every 3 days, am going to see an osteopath next tuesday. Hope they find what is wrong with me, I cannot live a normal life with the fear the thunderclap coming back to torment me. The pain is always located in the back of my head, just above the neck.
Last night, had a nightmare, guess what.... I woke up with a thunderclap. Now I'm afraid to go to sleep.
Am taking amitryptiline, which is supposed to help, but only in a few weeks will I see some changes.
I will let you know if anything works. Sorry if it's a bit gibberish, I am experiencing confusion lately.
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I might give you an update. After several weeks of pain, the TC (thunderclaps) have lessened. The chiropractor and osteopath have done a good job replacing vertebraes and muscles that were misplaced or weakened. My jaw, as it turned out, was unbalanced, missing two teeth in the left and one too many on the right side. Added to the fact that i chew on the left side (I'm right handed) the strain on the left side of my head is greater than on the right side.
Now I chew on the right side, eventually i'll try to balance that. I'll try to get the one tooth too many on the right taken out, and I'll fill one hole in the left side of my mouth to balance everything.
I am taking walks daily now, and concentrate on sitting up rigth. I have also changed pillows, the chiropractor says a smaller pillow would help.
I am still taking amitryptyline to prevent TC.
I still have headaches daily, but no TC.
I will post something in the future to keep everyone informed.
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Update: since my last post I've been back to my GP several times, he at least seems to be taking it a bit more seriously - he referred me to the neurology dept of my local hospital. I have had some pretty bad times at this particular place, so I tried to opt for a different hospital, but the appointment ended up at the local one anyway.
The doctor I saw there was absolutely awful; I don't think I've ever had a worse consultation, and I've had a few, with a recurrent hernia problem and other stuff. He listened to me for perhaps 20 seconds, and started telling me that I didn't have a problem, that sex headaches weren't a problem anyway, that they don't last. When I asked how he knew they didn't last, he said he'd seen 'a lot of these cases' and he never saw anybody come back, so they must be OK. I thought, yeah mate, they wouldn't come back to YOU. He said there was nothing he could do, had I tried paracetamol? I'm not making this up, I wish I was. I asked him to try to understand how this felt to me - i.e. all sexual activity at an abrupt end. He just repeated that it was nothing for me to worry about, and it would go away. I really wanted to believe him, I can tell you. None of this was said with any concern, any sympathy, it was just, you think you're ill, but I'm telling you you're not.
In the end, I thought, all I want out of this guy is a scan to rule out tumours, aneurysms, AVMs. He told me there'd be nothing, but I insisted and he eventually agreed to a scan.
Had the scan earlier this month, it turned out to be a CT scan rather than MRA, not too sure how much difference that makes. Got results 2 days ago, doc was right - no abnormalities showed up which is a big relief, so I'm now left with the question of what to do. I'm more than ever convinced it's all rooted in the neck/base of skull region. I've been skint since Christmas so haven't been to osteopath (£40 a go). Neck and shoulders tight as anything, I can hear them creaking and crunching. Only tried sex once since last post, it was disastrous, huge headache well before approaching orgasm. Despite trying not to exert myself too much, I ended up getting quite physical - and that's what brought the headache on, ie NOT orgasm because I didn't really approach it. So my heart was beating really strongly and I was really turned on, erection, everything - but the effort I was putting in brought the roof down - so it's true, I think at least in my case, about sex headaches being a variant of exertion headaches.
I can't help thinking that, although various types of headache are discussed on medical websites - sexual, exertional, cervicogenic - it's all one syndrome in reality. I think I've got shoulder and neck problems brought on by poor posture and too much computer use, that have either caused disc problems at the top of my spine and/or tightened up the neck muscles a lot, and it's compressing a nerve, or somehow giving it less than the usual amount of space. During exertion, the dilation of blood vessels in that area is the final straw, squeezing the nerve and causing the pain. This is kind of what Mark I D is saying, I think - and I tend to agree. I don't really know, I'm guessing and would so much like to see somebody who actually a) sympathizes and b) knows what they're on about.
I've got no proof, and I want my osteopath to see the CT scans - the hospital are being incredibly unhelpful about that - to check this out, I dunno if they can find anything though. At the end of the day, only exercise and osteo offer any relief - and I have to pay for both. Pilates and osteopathy were costing me £80 a month before Xmas, so much for the NHS. I've been referred to NHS physiotherapy and they don't lay a finger on you, just check your range of movement and give you a mild ticking off about poor posture.
I'm beginning to think I need to get right away from any computer for a couple of years, but my job - like so many these days - is dependent on PC use. I try like mad to get my posture right, but it doesn't seem to help, I guess once you're getting a lot of pain it'll take more than that to stop it.
So - I'm rattling with ibuprofen, cos if I don't take em, I get a low-level headache all day long most days, and I can't concentrate. It's back to the osteopath as soon as I can afford it, it's back to my GP to persuade him to refer me on the NHS, but the GP's attitude to osteopathy is really, really bad - they just look at you down their nose, and pretend not to know what it is. My GP actually said - when I mentioned osteo - oh, are they the ones who try and reset your vertebrae? I said no, that's chiropractors - but he was misunderstanding on purpose, I reckon. When I told my osteopath, he said he wasn't in the least surprised - most GPs seem to think osteopathy has the same level of medical efficacy as dancing naked in the light of the full moon. It really hacks me off, next time I go to my GP I'm very likely to say, well what are you 'conventional' doctors doing for me? Osteopathy SO isn't 'alternative' - and what if it was? It works - that's why I pay.
I'm nervous about chiro, having read nightmares of people getting carotid artery damage and strokes. But I reckon that's my next step. I have to admit, though, that I'm not doing the Pilates exercises regularly, cos I get disheartened by the whole deal. My wife's convinced it'll just go away, but I can't share her optimism. So after reading the other posts on here - it SO helps to read what others are doing - I reckon exercise is the right road to go down, maybe the only road. I'm going to get as much massage as possible to really try and loosen up my shoulders and neck, which are just so tight right now, really get disciplined on the Pilates, and just do what I can, because I'm not prepared to see sex slip away from me.
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I too have had these headaches.
My first was at the point of ejaculation.It was as awful as described by others with the feeling of my brain trying to exit via the base of my skull.The dull throb or aftershock lasted for 30 minutes after.My next episode came in the gym whilst doing warmup exercises.So this was NOT during a moment of intense hightenened breathing or hightened heart rate.I did not continue with my work out but stopped before anything bad happened.I had a further headache 3 weeks later during sex again this time i went to the doctor who sent me to the hospital.I had a scan and a lumbar puncture which both came back clear.The resident neurologist took interest and finally came back with the thunderclap theory.
A change of lifestyle was what it took to stop these episodes.No more gym a different girlfriend and generally taking life at a different pace.
On a note i did have smaller headaches whilst at secondary school after running long distance races.
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Update: been back to osteopath, he's done ultrasound & acupuncture on my neck - some improvement in general headacheyness. Been doing my own exercises more: especially head rotations, side-to-side stuff etc, all helping to ease my neck & shoulders.
BUT - no improvement in the crucial area. Tried masturbating, was hoping for improvement because my neck and shoulders were feeling better - but no. Same old big headache, and I waited for it to slowly wear off, which usually takes anywhere between 10 minutes and several hours. I tried massaging area just in front of my ears - result! It immediately began to ease the pain, and after just 1 min the pain had practically gone.
OK, it's not a cure - but it's surely a big signpost to where the problem is. I've been checking out stuff on the trigeminal nerve (cos that innervates the areas where I get pain) and it has a big ganglion in exactly that area. And I've been wondering whether this isn't a TMJ problem - temporo-mandibular joint. In other words, jaw misplaced. I had a whack on the head maybe 2-3 years ago and I was convinced then that it had altered my bite.
More when I find it out. Could it be specs?
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oh you lot are amazing!!!! thankyou all so much for what you write..i have just got back together with someone after 10 very traumatic weeks apart,and EVERY time i have had an orgasm (5 times in 2 meetings) this pain has been unbearable.it is like someone putting your head in a vice and turning it...about 30 seconds before climax,i feel the pain start,and the trouble is,a) i want the orgasm,b) i don't want to frighten the boyfriend,so i carry on...i then climax but am holding my head and can't do anything else for ages...4 hours after the last time this has happened,and i am now sitting writing here,with just a dull throb in my head,but the pain at the time is excruciating..now i wonder how much is due to the anticipation..ie before we split i never had this,how much could be psychological..and potentially is something underlying?like most others on here,first time i thought my head was going to explode...thankyou to you all for your sensible words..and eve hanks to the unsensible ones that made me smile!i'm not so scared now,but i am going to get this checked out.for the stats,am 46,overweight and in love lol!love hurts right?! x
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Hi Guys - I too have just had my first experience of an encruciating headache just prior to and during orgasm. This happened last night and was quite scarry, I felt like my head was about to explode. I must say that I will feel a bit foolish going straight to my GP. I may try being a bit more relaxed during my next sexual activity. I am a 49 male and have never had any history of migranes/headaches, I am not overweight and I am quite fit.
Do any of you who have suffered over the last few months have any improvements or great cures that you can share. I am worried that this may not be simple to cure. I don't want to be afraid to have sex!
Paul
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After a year of absolute misery with this I think I might be coming out of it. In the last month, I've had about 5 orgasms, 4 of which have been pain-free, 1 of which was maybe 20% painful compared to the 100% headcrushers. I wish I could say with full confidence it was down to something really specific - I've been trying to do regular Pilates, I've been seeing an osteopath re my painful, tensed-up neck, he's been giving me acupuncture as well as massage, ultrasound. I have had advice and support from others on this forum, for which so many thanks, it helps when you know others are coping and some things do seem to work. But if I'm honest I think it has just gone away 'by itself'. My neck's not been great lately, but this has still happened. It's not completely the same as it was before; I can sense something rumbling 'in the background' when I come, a sort of faint echo of the pre-headachey sensation. But they don't appear, and I am learning to relax and enjoy orgasms again. The first time, I just lay there waiting for it to explode. When it hadn't happened after about a minute, I was like, what the hell is happening? I put it down to a fluke. But no fluke. It might come back, I guess; I'm just trying to enjoy things while I can.
So don't lose hope. Don't stop trying, every so often - otherwise you'll never know. If you've been checked out and the docs are satisfied it's benign sexual headache, then you aren't risking your health as far as I can see. What else can I tell you? They went away after a really bad 2-week bout of flu. I lost 3/4 stone - maybe that helps? But I felt dreadful during the flu, my neck was killing me, I got really dehydrated, couldn't keep a thing down, had to go into hospital at one stage. Came out, drained. Two weeks later, the clouds have started to lift. If anything changes, I'll be back on here, but for now - don't give in to feeling hopeless. Just say to yourself, I'm changing my approach to sex. Cuddle, get aroused - you can't help it - but don't push it. Exercise, try to feel healthier. And every so often, try to come, as gently and relaxed as you can.
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Hello all,
Glad I found you guys. I've had this problem since age 16 (now 41) Here's the commonalities in my case.
1 - Happens every summer when the weather gets warm, never during the winter (I live in MI, USA)
2 - I have smoked marijuana the entire tim
3 - Orgasm at least once a day
4 - I'm non athletic and slightly overweight
I've been to the doctor numerous times and none have ever helped me, one doctor left the room to google it. I've just learned to live with it. I know when it first happens that it will be 2-3 weeks before it goes away. Someone mentioned taking Exedrin Migraine a couple hours prior, I tried it and it may have helped a bit. Breathing is definately the key. I tend to hold my breath and tense up a lot. Controlling that reduces the pain by about 60% for me. If anyone, ANYONE has found a successful remedy for this PLEASE let us know.
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Had my 1st experience last week....just before orgasm the base of my skull felt like a vise crushing it. I rarely get headaches so was concerned. Took 2 advil after it subsided 15min later. Still had a dull headache. 2 days later could feel the same pain building when started masturbating so stopped. 2 days later I still have a dull headache. No real pain its just there. If it persists in a few more days will go in to get a scan just to make sure. Im 41, very fit/active, no neck pain, history of low blood pressure. Will focus on breathing 2 c if that makes any difference. Thanks for all your postings.
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Edit: I too am having the sinus drainage/pleghm problem...and it showed up right before the recurrence of the headaches
I'm 20 years old, male, and on the heavier end of the still athletically capable scale...I had my first thunderclap headache last year, during the summer, and continued to have them for a few months. Needless to say, their timing in my sex life had put some strain on my new wife and I. But in my case, they also occur when I do push ups, which is markedly close to the missionary position so I had thought there to be a correlation, which I'm not so sure about now, as masturbation causes them too. They went away during the winter, which I hadn't even thought about attributing to the season. And then the Army shipped me to Korea, before my scheduled MRI. I hadn't thought about the headaches much during this winter, seeing as how I've been without sexual contact, but yesterday, as the summer started to get back in full swing, i got a headache during my pushups that was so severe I passed out. The military doctors here are useless, and haven't been asking the right questions when I talked to them, but after a few minutes online I found a possible name for my problem at the very least "Coital Cephalgia"
here is just what wikipedia has had to say about it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coital_cephalalgia
If anyone else has any information regarding this problem....PLEASE post
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I have just found this website, I am a 21 year old male. I started having these headaches last year they lasted about 4 months and happened every time I had sex or masturbated. Then just as quickly as they came they were gone again. Now almost a year later they started up 2 nights ago. I have been to the doctor but am going to a different one in the next week. I don't have any sinus problems or allergies at all. I have low blood pressure but that is in hand and my p/b is usually normal. I did find that sometimes taking Advil before sex helps, at least a little bit.
Alexander
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First One happened last night. Girlfriend is a nurse, im a firefighter. We both thought i was having an anyeurism. Started to subside so we calmed down a bit. Woke up this morning with the same dull ache at the base of skull, moving to my peripherals and right behind my eyes. Found this to be the best explanation. Not going to sit here and say im not devastated. But i guess i have it too. coital cephalalgia. look it up. It might sound familiar. Have an awesome day. OH YEAH...im only 22... This sh1t better not last forever
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Hello All,
I had this headache today for the first time and it was sudden, right at the "Big O". it was all the back of my head and neck, heart beat was very high (I could feel it) (my heart beat is usually 95-100). I have experience the very same headaches when I work a lot under high temperature or under the sun (like gardening) it usually starts gradually but this time it was suddenlly, but it was the same pattern and intensity as when I dont take my medicine inmediately when it starts. Also I kind of have the same headache in the middle of the night when I used my pillow in certain way that makes some kind of pressure on my neck on the back of my head. My guess is there might be some kind of blockage at the area of the neck of where the head starts and when there is some kind of pressure makes it worse. Does anyone have any news about this? also I am close to the visit of "Aunt flow" Any of you were close to it when you had this episode? I am just trying to find any common factors to put something together so that when I go to the Doc I have something to say that I am not along [:-[]
Thahk you All.
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He-ya ho.
Alright.
I saw this thread randomly after searching for something completely different on google.
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WOW! This headache happened to me just last night. This was about the third time this has happened in a years time. But last night I thought my head was going to explode. The pain went from the top of my head and ran across the top to the back of the neck. Extreme pain I had never felt before. I thought I was having an aneurysm. I then began to cry because the pain was so bad, which probably made it worse. We had to stop before the orgasm ever happened. [:(!] Right after I took two Excedrin and the pain subsided but went to dull pain behind my eyes and in my neck for many hours. I woke up without the headache thank goodness, but the thought of it returning during sex is scary. Not sure if I should see a doctor or not. I have had sinus problems, not sure if thats a factor as other have had too. As for the blood pressure, I am willing to bet it was sky high during this headache!
P.S. To those of you wondering in other emails....Sex is better after 40. Amazingly indescribable. [;)] You younger folks will just have to find out for yourselves when you get here. I would hate to have to stop now!
Debra
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I'm new here - I have been reading about these orgasm headaches for 1 1/2 hours - made my headache subside [:o]
I'm going to share something personal - but it is relevant, that's why I share it. I'm a 39 year old female, single, and had probably the most fantastic sex ever about 4 days ago - with myself, of all things. I thought I was on the plateau of being in a constant orgasmic state for a good 30 minutes - or so it felt at the time. I had never experienced anything like it - and in all my orgasms through the years, I've gotten to know my body enough to know when it's going to be a little "plff...", a moderate "oh yeah" or a big wowzie...
This one, let's just say, felt like I was going to the point of no return... only I never got there, because that's when this "thunderclap headache" you are all describing happened. I tried to ignore it because I felt so close, but the overpowering headache was too much and I had to stop. It felt like all those things mentioned - like an aneurysm, or like my head was going to pop off my body. I had a mild headache the day after.
I thought nothing of it the next night, though, and remembered the great time I had, so I tried again, to have it repeat, nearly identically. Sigh. The next day, another mild headache all day long.
I took a day off (ha) and tonight I just touched myself no more than 2 minutes and got another unbelievable headache. This was not anywhere near the stimulation that had brought on the other headaches.
So now that I've read everyone else's experiences and recommendations, here is what I can say about me and my experience.... I am overweight and was recently in Hong Kong. I got some Chinese medicine that's supposed to help increase metabolism by opening the arteries and blood vessels in the body while you are digesting food (you take them after you eat). I don't know the name of the herb or combination of herbs, but I've been losing weight in a way that is gradual and has no side effects. I don't feel anything when I take the pills. I wonder now if these pills are partly related to this experience? I say that because, when the headaches happen, I can feel my heart beating hard and pulses in my head that really feel like blood pumping in to my brain. The pills are supposed to help with lessening hardening of the arteries or clearing debris that is trying to set into artery walls (particularly the fat deposits - or I suppose it's called astherosis, spelling?). Since I'm overweight I wanted something to help increase my metabolism (since I know that is a problem) and wanted to make sure I'm not doing myself in with the artery thing.
In my personal history of orgasm experiences, sometimes when I'm trying to orgasm, I will be trying so hard that I notice I'm so tense that I can't "let go" - and if I try to "make it happen" I seem to frustrate the process. Sometimes I've had experiences where I will orgasm in those moments - but they are of the "pfff" NADA variety, hardly worth it, so I've learned to do this "apple grabbing game" while I'm trying to make myself relax.
It goes like this. I picture myself reaching into a paper bag. And I'm trying to get the "apple" that is on the bottom of the bag, below all the other apples on top of it. Before I start reaching, I am completely tense, and as I start reaching for bottom of the bag, going through all the apples, my body slowly relaxes, little by little, until I don't feel any tension anywhere. The point at which I can grab the apple at the bottom, of course, is the point of climax.
I find the more I make myself relax... if I can hold the orgasm back until I feel no tension anywhere (I pay really close attention to my feet, toes, legs, thighs, pelvic area, especially), then I end up having a lovely, flowering orgasm of the "medium variety" - lovely, satisfying, but not intense, necessarily.
So I say all this because I noticed that when I got this headache this week for first time, I was so tense that I almost couldn't let go of the tension. I was trying the "apple grabbing game" technique, but it wasn't working because I was trying to orgasm in a new way and new position than normal. This created the tension - yet I felt I was on the precipice of a new experience - had I really had the orgasm, it might have been body - blowing
(I won't say mind-blowing because IT WAS MIND-BLOWING, literally!)
Another factor - I had used, for the first time, this sensual oil that is supposed to heat up when you stimulate the area you apply it to. I put this oil around the clitoris area, and it really heightened the entire experience. I could feel everything. After this headache, I wondered if that oil might have caused a nerve to heat up a bit much and send a signal to the brain. Like an internal temperature gauge blowing. That's kinda what it felt like.
Anyway, jeez.... I think I gotta take a break from sex now. So... I plan to go to the Dr. anyway and get the MRI just to be safe. I'm going to take my pills and see what they say about them, if there might be any possible side effects to them I wasn't aware of. I'm very shy to talk about this because I'm in a foreign country and it's embarrassing to do that here, not to mention the language barrier. Sigh. But I suppose better safe than sorry.
Oh my God, these headaches feel absolutely horrible and scary. Tonight I really thought I was going to throw up after 2 minutes. I made my way to the medicine cabinet, downed 2 pills for headaches, turned on the air conditioner and sat under it, took my shirt off because I was so incredibly hot. (The weather where I am is not excessively hot). I turned on the computer and started reading about this, get my mind on other things, and now I feel normal again (aside from a mild headache).
I read somewhere, in a sex book for couples with sex problems, to focus on enjoying touching each other, but not putting so much focus on orgasm - or making each other "come". This is coming to mind now - though I'm with myself, maybe I need to do that ... focus more on enjoying my body instead of trying so hard to make myself come. But in my experience, I've never come by relaxing the whole time during the process.
Maybe this goes to show that that old saying that there really can be too much of a good thing?
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I forgot to ask, the point of telling you my story of how I orgasm is this - women, have you ever been able to make yourself orgasm without tensing at all? How did you do it? With me, it seems to always start with tensing and me becoming more and more relaxed. Because of these headaches, I'm realizing part of this might be I need to learn how to not tense anymore when I'm in the process of orgasm, but I don't even know if that is possible?
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Can someone refresh my memory, what's an orgasm? (https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fthink005.gif&hash=463963d9a4ed374dbed80fc259a285d4) (http://www.freesmileys.org)
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I reread my previous post, and wow, I was horny [:o] I guess after reading 6 pages about orgasms, it got to me....
I wanted to get back on here, even though this thread doesn't look as active anymore to let people know something important, which is more important, your money or your life? I'm serious.
In my case, things haven't turned out favorably. I had lots of blood tests run and an MRI. My blood tests were great, normal levels for everything, low cholesterol, but my MRI showed a middle cerebral artery stenonis - meaning, atherosclerosis in the middle artery in the brain, the one that goes smack down the middle. I found this out 3 days ago. I'm about 80 lbs overweight, and the dr. looked me square in the face and said, "you need to lose weight as soon as possible, safely." He said it very, very seriously. I got the impression it was "do or die." He basically said I'm at risk for a stroke.
I will give you more history on my symptoms, in case anyone else is wondering, or can use the information. But that week I was having the orgasms and experiencing the headaches, one night it was so bad, I went to the bathroom because I felt like I was going to vomit. Everything was spinning, my vision was blurry - I just remember bracing myself against the wall. I remember being in there about 40 minutes, just praying for the headache to go away, it literally felt like my head was going to pop off my body. When I went back in the livingroom, I noticed 3-4 drops of blood on the floor (not menstrual blood). I had no idea where that came from? I didn't hurt anywhere.
That's when I got on the internet, found this thread, and FOLLOWED THE ADVICE TO GET IT CHECKED. I know how it feels to not have insurance. I thank God I have insurance because I may have not gone to get it, for the same reason. But, get yourself checked to make sure there is no problem because it could mean your life!
Anyway, so I laid off on the masturbating for the time being, and started eating really well and exercising every night. But, while exercising, I would feel these headaches coming on, so I'd just back off on the exercising and stop before they got bad. I remember one morning being at the grocery store and these people tried to butt in line ahead of me. I got upset and told them to wait their turn; I could feel the blood rise to my head and my head started pounding. I remember deciding right then and there, "Don't get upset over this." I breathed, and calmed down, and the pounding subsided.
This week was when I found out what my MRI said. I'm not eating a very restricted diet similar to a mediterranean diet (with online research, this is a good diet for this). Per the advice of my doctor, no strenuous exercise, he recommended walking, so I'm walking about 30-60 minutes a night, moderately, to start. Also, he gave me BP medicine, medicine for my blood to help it pass through better, and ibuprophen.
I thought all these tests would come back negative - I've always prided myself on having good health despite an overeating problem (as I've been overweight for 15 years, and love french fries and pasta and etc)... my family has excellent genes - only my grandfather had a stroke, and it was when he was well into his late 70s. Also, my blood pressure is in the normal range! But I'm taking the medicine because I assume the dr. knows what he is doing. I may have that condition where, when I get upset, it skyrockets. Maybe I've had that condition all alone.
If someone is seriously considering NOT getting themselves checked out, or while you are thinking about it, I highly recommend immediately taking divine care of yourself, check your BP when you are upset and when you are calm, and think carefully about whether or not your money or your life is more important.
It's been hard coming to terms with this, but I'm feeling better everyday. I feel soooooo lucky the dr's caught it in time and they are able to help me. I understand the medicine I'm taking will help immensely with cutting my risks for a problem.
Also THANK YOU to the person who was posting on here about having these symptoms then ending up in a wheelchair. Sorry I forgot your name - I had browsed through the thread to find you but couldn't. So here is my thank you. Hearing your story helped me take this seriously and get help.
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p.s. One mistake above, I said I was not eating a restricted diet, I meant, I am eating a restricted diet now.
The other thing I forgot to say - I've been reading about strokes and was surprised to learn that they can happen to babies, healthy young 20 year olds, as well as middle aged and old. Some people can inherit a problem and not even know it. For example, that 3 year old obviously didn't have a stroke because of bad eating habits, he was hardly here long enough. In my case, I don't know if it's my bad diet, hereditary, or both... my point being, if you read my post, and you are young and/or healthy, don't assume you are not at risk for something serious going on. Better to know you are ok than risk your life, wouldn't you think?
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I feel sorry for all of you suffering from this... I suffered from it too, if only for a few days, and I can see how it is no easy thing to just deal with.
I went to my doctor and she perscribed me Cyclobenzaorine, to ease the tension in my neck and relax my muscles and its worked wonders. I have no more headaches or pain...
These headaches came about for me because of my poor posture, sitting at the computer for lengthy amounts of time and not stretching. I think being more active and limber could help in many peoples cases and trying not to let anxiety make you tense up during the day.
I hope this post helps...
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Four days ago. It was the most godawful headache I have ever had in my life. All the same thoughts and fears. Aneurysm? Stroke? Dying? Felt very drowsy after that, till the next day.
The first thing I found on the net was this forum. God bless every one who gave details on their experience. All the info will help us understand this problem. Doctors don't seem to know much about it. Maybe people are shy about discussing the situation in which it happens?
And again had it a day later, this one was even worse.
The severe pain came on suddenly, starting from the base of the left side of the back of the skull, travelled rapidly upwards and reached the top of the back of the head, and in about 10 to 15 seconds spread down to the base of the right side of the back of the skull and also around the sides towards the front of the head. The pain on the right side was bad but not as intense as on the left side, and the throbbing pain spreading around the head was still less intense though it was also painful.
Had to discontinue sex, couldn't go on, tried to calm down by taking several deep breaths. The pain took very much longer to subside than it took to appear, and in about 30 minutes, downgraded to a lingering headache centred on the back of the head and mild fever for the rest of the day and the next. Couldn't concentrate, restless, very drowsy, constant mild nausea. Took a 6-hour nap, woke up still feeling drowsy. Next day, after a night's sleep, still drowsy and lethargic, feeling just slightly better, still with the mild fever, lingering mild headache, and feeling achy all over.
Did some research on the net. I am no doctor but I think I found what may be the possible cause.
This syndrome appears to be related to an existing infection or sepsis going on elsewhere in the body.
One poster said his chiropractor told him he had a "neck infection". This guy probably knows what he's talking about.
The question to ask is: Do I have or recently had an injury or infection in the nose (sinus), jaw, mouth (gum, teeth), ear, throat, neck (larynx) or lungs (bronchi)? Those are the key areas but there could be an infection somewhere else.
I suspect, in most cases, the answer will be 'yes'.
In my case, it is an abscess I had last week and still have in my jawbone, possibly due to the decay of the original tooth stub in one of my crowns. The abscess is in the left upper jaw bone in the fold between the gum and lip, just under the corner of the left nostril. Right next to the front left sinus. Don't think I have a sinus infection but did have a low fever and constant headache most of last week, been sneezing a lot lately and generally feeling very much under the weather.
Infections of this sort, including sinus, throat and lung infections are very often caused by the common bacteria, Staphylococcus Aureus.
"Over 30 different types of Staphylococci can infect humans, but most infections are caused by Staphylococcus aureus. Staphylococci can be found normally in the nose and on the skin (and less commonly in other locations) of 20%-30% of healthy adults. In the majority of cases, the bacteria do not cause disease. However, damage to the skin or other injury may allow the bacteria to overcome the natural protective mechanisms of the body, leading to infection."
- http://www.medicinenet.com/staph_infection/article.htm (http://www.medicinenet.com/staph_infection/article.htm)
The rest of the article is very informative.
So what is the possible connection between an infection in or near the head and coital cephalgia?
Bacterial toxins.
Most bacterial or Staph infections are localised, causing sepsis, redness, swelling, pain and pus at the site of infection. The bacterial activity produces by-products which are toxic to organic tissue, thus causing the symptoms. The bacteria and toxins can infiltrate the bloodstream to cause blood poisoning, a serious life-threatening condition. Or they can spread to and affect other parts of the body also via the bloodstream. You can also get Staph infection through contact with infected persons or their personal items, especially if your immunity is compromised.
So the hypothesis is that, due to a localised infection in, around or near the neck, when the blood pressure increases and/or blood vessels dilate during certain physical activities, the bacterial toxins are swept downstream by the increased blood flow, first into the immediate surrounding circulatory system, which is when the concentration of toxins are at its highest, and then throughout the body.
That the syndrome appears and disappears apparently spontaneously also points to bacterial infection being the probable cause.
Doctors commonly prescribe antibiotics for all sorts of conditions, even for illnesses which are of viral origin, on which antibiotics actually have no effect.
It is possible that the coital cephalgia clears up because the use of antibiotics for some other reason resolved the sepsis which caused the coital cephalgia.
E.g. For years, millions of people suffered chronic gastric problems and ulcers because the cause was unknown, so there was no effective treatment for it, until it was found accidentally that the culprit was a bacteria, Helicobacter Pylori. Patients who took antibiotics for other conditions reported that their gastritis also cleared up.
What would be a possible treatment for coital cephalgia? Antibiotics.
If it can be ascertained that there is a bacterial infection ongoing somewhere in, around or near the head, then a medically-supervised course of antibiotics can be prescribed. A blood culture can also determine the presence of Staph. Also, abscesses may need to be surgically drained and cleaned out.
Sudden onset of a severe headache can also indicate a stroke. So the first time one gets this type of headache, an immediate medical checkup is important. Especially if there are also symptoms such as numbness or weakness in some part of the body, dizziness, blurred vision, slurred speech, nausea, breathing difficulties.
This is what I suggest, if it happens for the first time:
Go for a medical checkup a.s.a.p. to rule out a possible stroke, or other serious diseases.
Also ask for a blood culture to be done to check for Staph infection.
If "there's nothing wrong, everything seems to be normal", then ask for a course of antibiotics. Especially if the Staph test is positive.
Sometimes an active infection can go unnoticed or undetected.
And do finish the antibiotic course properly, according to instructions.
Apart from the antibiotics, there are other things one can do to help the healing; and inform your doctor.
• Lay off sex until complete recovery - probably takes about 2 to 3 weeks.
• Get more rest or extra sleep.
• Drink plenty of liquids daily to flush out the toxins.
• Eat more natural foods and avoid processed or refined foods.
• Take a multi-vitamin and mineral supplement daily, with meals. Should contain at least 1000mg Vit C and 15mg Zinc; additional cod liver oil also helps. Continue for 1 month, better if taken indefinitely to maintain immunity and good health.
• Take first 1 tsp of Echinacea extract, then 20 drops extract 3 times a day, continue for 1 week.
• Take 20,000 units garlic oil (capsules) 2 times a day OR 3000 units every 3 hours, continue for 10 days.
• One day after the antibiotic course is finished, start taking yoghurt daily for 2 to 4 weeks, or take a good acidophilus supplement capsule for the same period of time.
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So glad to have found these posts, by far the most useful thing I have found on the internet about this. I've read through them all and just thought I would add my own experience because it contains something that I have not read in anybody else's account.
After very little sex in the past 5 years, and none for over a year, I recently became involved with a new partner. Although only 44 I had become aware in the past few years that my erection was not all that it once was, and being quite nervous abut this I hurriedly acquired some viagra from the internet. I am 99% certain that it is the real thing and not a copy/something else entirely.
I used it 4 times, in low (25mg) doses, and from the first use I was aware of a headache on the side and back of my head. Not a bad one, maybe 3/10 on my subjective pain scale. I was not overly bothered about this, having looked at the side effects and followed a few forums, headache is a common side effect.
The 4th time i used it however, I became aware of the full on pain building that other sufferers have described. It built so strongly that I had to cease before orgasm, and at this point had to confess all to my partner, who, to her credit, was very understanding.
Assuming it was all viagra based I stopped using it forthwith. The headaches persisted however, though on all but one occasion, where I again had to cease prior to orgasm, they were manageable. When I masturbated they were maybe 2-3 on my pain scale, and during intercourse 4-5.
My partner was away for a couple of weeks and when she returned we had intercourse again. This would be a month since taking the viagra. The full on pain built just before orgasm but this time I went through with it. Big mistake. 11 out of 10 on my pain scale.
I was beside myself, thought that something was really very seriously wrong, and for around 2 hours was close to calling for an ambulance. This was about 5 in the afternoon. Only the fact that I had had something similar before and not died stopped me.
I did not sleep that night because I could not lie horizontally without increasing the blood pressure in my head, and in the morning, the pain having subsided to about a 7 I went straight to my GP, thinking that I needed to discuss this.
He seemed pretty concerned, particularly as my reflexes were poor in my right leg, and I was sent straight to hospital. A worrying few hours ensued, but the CT scan and lumbar puncture drew a negative and I was sent home.
So here I am, 3 days on from the initial incident, relieved that I am not about to die, but the pain is still a 5.
I am reasonably fit, maybe 10kg overweight, blood pressure fine, but have migraines with vomiting, not aura, about once every 2 months, and have poor posture and neck/shoulder stiffness due to the usual, constant laptop computer use. Noting others comments, I also have a right sinus that permanently drains into my throat and causes sleep apnea
Neither GP nor consultant appeared particularly interested in the viagra connection, but I thought I would report it here in case it interests others.
I am, of course, stressed to hell about all this. I think the chiropracter route suggested by others is something I might try.
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I am so glad that I found this feed. I recently had a problem like this. I was masterbating the other day and as I started to get excited, I got a stabbing pain in my head above my right ear. I stopped as I thought I was having a stroke or something and the stabbing calmed but the throbbing continued and felt like it was spreading over the whole right side of my head. It was the absolute worst headache I have ever had. Popped some advil and it calmed but didn't actually go away for a couple days. I tried it again since I didn't get to finish the first time. It was about 4 days later. Same thing happened except it was behind my ear this time. I continued on since I knew it wasn't going to kill me this time. I wondered would it go away after the climax. It didn't, in fact it got worse and it was blinding. Popped some advil again and this time it calmed much more quickly and stayed gone. I'm curious as to if it will do the same with actual intercourse. I'm fairly sexually active and have never had this happen before. I have recently changed medication from Paxil to Effoxor XR and I wonder if that has anything to do with it all.
Anyone else on anti depressants that have this happening? Or is it just one of those things?
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Hi all, Cannot believe this site is here, however, am so pleased it is. Have had two of these headaches now and wanted to find out any info that may explain them, hence good old "google". I am a happily married 52 year old female & have recently experience this head pain during intercourse with my husband. The first time on the weekend I literally thought my head was going to explode right off my shoulders. The pain was excruciating. Started as I was working up to climaxing and exploded in my head when orgasm was reached. I was on top and thought that maybe was overexerting myself, so several days later tried different technique and masterbated whilst lying on my back. Same thing, same amount of pain. It was after that I became really concerned and decided I had better check it out. The local GP put me onto HRT 9 months ago because I was beginning to suffer symptoms of menopause. Perimenopausal she called it. Did not do any blood tests to see if oestrogen levels had dropped, & I was still getting regular periods. When I asked about tests to confirm menopause was told that she was treating the "symptoms" and could guarantee that this was what was wrong with me. I have recently been suffering from reflux and was put onto Nexium 40gm for that, so am wondering if either of the meds might have something to do with it. To be very honest I am too scared to let myself get to the stage of orgasm now as I really don't want to experience the head pain and am a little nervous about heading down to the family GP as it is a rather sensitive issue and as much as I can confide this info anonymously to you lot, it is a bit different speaking directly to the doctor. Remember that women of my age don't have sex let alone orgasm!!!??? :o) This is what I think my children think anyway.
As far as I know I am healthy, other than being told by my dietitian that I need to lose about 10kg. Walk five days or workout for 40 to 45 mins in gym. Never smoked but enjoy a glass of wine most evenings before dinner. I was with my dad in hospital for 4 days before he finally passed away after he had a massive brain hemorrhage due to a secondary tumor found in the brain and can tell you I never want to go down that path.
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ah great, eventually allowed to read page 6 after a 24 hour cliffhanger of superhighway denial! have experienced 3 such headaches in the past 6 weeks, fortunately seem to be getting off much lighter than a lot of others here as they only start to build about 30 seconds before climax, once reached it is accompanied by an excruciating blast of pain which leaves me feeling asif my brain just blew the upper right quadrant of my skull right off, the pain then gradually dissipates within about 5 minutes. The whole time the pain concentrates in the same spot between ear and back of the eyeball and doesnt affect the neck or lower skull area at all. The position of choice each time has been upright although not always the same. Needless to say the urge to let go has waned somewhat...my man here thinks his luck is in with all the extra treats coming his way recently [:P]
Am interested in this theory that a bacterial infection could be the root, and for sure I have posture problems...2 slipped discs in the past year and a hefty tumble to boot!
Went to the doctor today, not my own...foreign land and all...because I had an unexplained mother of all rashes combined with weird facial pain that had no bruising no congestion and no obvious source. I suffer from many allergies and always they display the same symptoms, itch runny nose then congestion plus irritated eyes and itcy throat ..then ,dependent on the source, swollen oral tissue and hives on the face. This rash came along with none of these...not even the facial hives. There was no accompanying fever or headache just an immensely swollen hot rash that moved from one part of the body to another. I had taken an antihistamine naturally..it had no effect..the rash worsened over the next 12 hours. However the gp was determined it was an allergy. He said it was a sun allergy, he had seen much after the warm weekend. He wasnt interested in the fact that I hadnt left the house in 4 days let alone sat in the sun. Told me to go home and take another 2 antihistamines.
Oh, also he disregarded that fact that 6 weeks ago I returned from a 4 month stint in central america and mexico. Naturally I was not inclined to any longer discuss my orgasm headaches with him and the possibility that I may have picked up some kind of bacterial infection whilst travelling that is triggering them.
Not sure what quite to do next.
Extra pointers..am a fairly healthy 37yrold with a great partner. About 10kilos overweight, currently zinc deficient and have undergone a fair amount of upheaval in the last 18months, have considered that excess stress and a desire for release maybe pushing my need to orgasm too far, making me try just too damn hard for it.
Will watch this space. Man its great to not be the only one, eh :)
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Headaches associated with orgasm are fairly common. The medical diagnosis is coital cephalgia (headache). My doctor prescribed 10MG of amitriptyline which did the trick.
Of interest:
http://www.womenshealth.org/a/sex_headaches_coital_cephalgia.htm
http://www.drdaveanddee.com/headache.html
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sex-headaches/DS00645
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This happen to me as well. I had my second headache yesterday and it was worst this time than before. The weird thing is it only happens when I'm having sex "doggy style or standing up". I notice while doing my thing, my neck starts hurting, getting stiff(I'm not talking about my penis lol) and then when I release my head starts throbbing and aching so bad like a migrane...I had to clutch my head for like 10mins, I couldn't open my eyes. I was thinking I had a aneurysm or something. It was hurting for like hours and now my neck is soar. I always had some sort of neck problems in the past, but nothing like this. It's time to break down and go see a physical therapist or a doctor. I'm only 28 and not willing to give up my sex life for this + t.m.i its my wife's favorite position lol.
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Have you seen the most viewed thread on this forum? Post Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS) (http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.4875)
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This is my first post. I found this forum while doing an internet search on this very topic.
This very thing has been happening to me for the last month! It hits right before orgasm and it quite literally feels like I am being stabbed in the head! My blood pressure is normal-high and I have never had this kind of problem before. I am hoping it goes away as quickly as it came because, like cruizin said, it really puts a damper on the sex drive.
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<font face="Impact"></font id="Impact">In reguards to:
<i>can anyone who hqas experienced this try to describe your headache in a bit more detail. Especially WHERE in your head the pain seemed to be centered?</i>
Mine starts on the left front part of my head, and shoots all the way back to the base of my neck. It will last anywhere from a few minutes to hours on end, and sometimes my eyes swell up.
And yes, I am female.
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I posted in Feb. about the headaches and I will say that since that short period that I was having the headaches, it did actually stop. I never went to the doctor about it but it did stop. I'm happy about that.
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I am a 45 year old male. I think I found the solution and cure to orgasm headaches.
I started to first develop these during intense sexual experiences. When something new happens and you look for the reasons, usually it has something to do with what else has changed in your life. In my case the onset of this condition may have been caused by: weight loss (I have recently dropped 4kg (8.8 pounds)), anxiety and stress (working on a tough project).
My amateur view is that whilst these circumstances had an impact, the root cause of these headaches is a lack of oxygen in the brain, combined with a pressure build up in the lead-up to the orgasm.
Solution: During the sex act (either with a partner or by yourself) start deliberate, deep and regular breathing. Tell your partner before so that she (or he - not that there is anything wrong with that) does not freak out. This basically stopped these headaches.
This breathing is counter-intuitive at first. My tendency used to be to breathe less and build up pressure, perhaps because that leads to intense and explosive orgasms. I found however that the breathing technique prolongs the sex act and also leads to more controlled and longer orgasms. Rather than sharp and explosive, they are long, very pleasant and satisfying "releases". Your partner might appreciate that you don't have the urge to "bang" hard when you climax (unless she enjoys it in which case it may take some getting used to).
Hope this helps.
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I'm guessing people will still be following this thread as it is - I can confirm as someone who has been experiencing this for just a week - such an alarming and seemingly common event.
I've been through most of the questions and searches in a short space of time that have been mentioned. I experienced the extreme head pain on the point of orgasm through masturbation, not long after getting off a longish flight. So naturally, I was thinking of blood pressure and suitably scared. The dull headache went on for most of the day, but more out of curiosity (and nature's helpfulness that means we forget quite quickly the actual experience of pain) I repeated the experience both the next day, and the next. Both times, having slightly less intense but still magnificently painful attacks, less significant in intensity yes, but certainly the second time, leaving me with a perpetual dull head that was debilitating.
You might ask why I would be so persistent when something had been so painful, but like others on here, I am in my early 40's, find myself with more sexual freedom, have learnt to experiment on my own and am relatively happy doing so. I have used a hand massager recently which provides external stimulation only, so all my orgasms are clitoral - and I'm wondering if there's a connection here... Again, like others, I feel like I'm only just at the beginning of my sexual discovery and often at orgasm think - although they're great - there is a lot of tension which doesn't completely get released. The potential of this being in some way connected to my experience seems quite high - the second and third time I experienced this pain, I stopped myself from climaxing. The pain in intensity was less, but the effects afterwards of dullness and acheyness following increased.
It's important I think reading through different people's posts, to identify if there is a connection with exertion. Mine are not. I did 3 sessions of moderate exercise during the week I was experiencing this and no pain.
It's vital to get checked out. I saw my GP, he was suitably concerned, said that even though it was a known sexually related phenomena, it also masked the symptoms of a brain bleed, so sent me for a CT scan. This was not particularly pleasant, mainly due to the UK health system which means masses of administration, being admitted to hospital as a routine, then the medic saw me to say my scan was clear. Asked me if it was so that my symptoms were activated on climax. When I said yes, he said well the obvious thing was just to avoid that then. I agreed, and said that's fine on a temporary basis but I'd persist to find out what caused it, and he said 'good luck'! Suggesting that once these things start they rarely go away. Well I'm not accepting that. But at least I am 95% certain that I have no alarming brain activity, have had my blood pressure checked etc. so I am free to experiment - if I have a good 24 hours of not doing anything afterwards to play with!
I have a history of postural difficulties for which I see a chiropractor. These vary, mine is excellent and come from an Australian practice - worth looking out for as their training seems to be different. He had seen me the day before I went away, so I went to him, didn't tell him immediately what had happened and asked him to check my posture. It was radically different. My neck had jutted forward and significantly to the left. (The head pain attack had begun at the base of my neck and spread up to the left, similar to lots of people on here). So I am now seeing him a bit more regularly to see if there is anything that can be resolved there.
I then went to see a friend who is a masseur. She reported severe knots in my upper back, right shoulder, left side of neck. I know she wasn't exaggerating, everything she touched in that region hurt like hell. It felt like every nerve ending around the base of my skull was a bruise and I became aware of how tense my shoulders were, like much worse than normal. So I'm trying to see here for another couple of times this week.
With the freedom of knowing I'm not about to die if I try, and seeing as it's Sunday and I can lounge in bed for a bit, I thought I would experiment with my hand massager. I put it on a lower setting and it was lovely, seemed like no problem. I watched my breathing cos I'm interested in that theory and am aware that my breathing is often too shallow and I'm in a rush maybe to get to the 'top'. So I slowed everything down. The pain began as i felt my clitoris really begin to swell and the first shudders work their way up my spine. But I breathed through it, told myself I was going to be okay. It spoilt it certainly, but I orgasmed and my head continued to pound unbelievably for about 5 minutes (I got off lightly so to speak). Interestingly though I was able to move about after about another 10, took myself off to get a couple of paracetamol (I have tried not to take them as I have taken so many this week, but thought 2 would be okay in return for a semi-satisfactory orgasm). All in all this is a drastic improvement and gives me a little hope for the future.
One last connection/thread to something that has been said. About 1 week before this occurred I had had a cold. This is unusual for me and it appeared after the first of my longish flights. I had it for a couple of days only, but continued with nose bleeds through the week (this is not alarming in itself, I am a nosebleed sufferer, but still, always left nostril this time). Although I no longer have a cold, following each head attack I have been extremely nasal, just watery build up and an intensity on the bridge of my nose and in my left eye. There is a connection with the type of pain and what I remember from a long time ago as being sinus infection headache.
I am fascinated by the idea mentioned in a recent post of a connection between infection and this phenomena. I am thinking of investigating that further, along with continuing massage, chiropractic treatment and maybe more relaxation and breathing. Certainly the latter may help me in the long run with sexual enjoyment anyway, so when I'm feeling positive, I think it will all work out great. But this is a horribly alarming thing, scary, painful to the extreme and seems to hit everyone where it hurts, whether in long term, new or no relationships. How much undervalue does it place on us when a medical professional says 'it's not as if it has a major effect on your life', honest, that's what the medic said. I think everyone on here would disagree? But even if they respond in that way, the feeling you have when you know it's not a life threatening thing is absolutely crucial to how you go on to dealing with it so I just think to myself it's because he has no idea how it feels...
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Has anyone ever experienced a "thunderclap" headache right at the time of orgasm? I've had this happen a couple of times, and it happens almost spontaneously.
It can happen if the partner's husband walks in the door at the crucial moment and thumps you round the head.
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Well, I last posted in April 2008 and I've had a year or so of relative freedom from this appalling thing. I say 'relative' because there's been a sort of ongoing 'near-headache' buzz or tension a lot of the time and, yes, a few occasions when the headaches proper returned - but usually just one-offs. Now, since August this year (2009) I've been back in the pits. All orgasms - and there haven't been very many - have been accompanied by bad headaches, and frequently by abdominal pain - aches, cramping - as well.
The 'good period' ended in August with a bang: I ended up going to hospital in an ambulance after a particularly bad episode, both the headache and the abdo pain were maxed out, I was literally on my knees, I was convinced something had gone pop, either in my head or belly, or both. They gave me painkillers and hooked me up to an ECG, nothing showed up on it and when the pills had kicked in they kicked me out.
What have I done about it since then? Not a hell of a lot. I'm a lot poorer than a year or two ago, so the Pilates classes and the osteopath I was going to are out of the window now - and have been for a while, i.e. through most of the headache-free period. So all my previous ideas about a link with exercise and muscle stiffness seem a bit lame now; I kind of hate to say this, because we're all looking for solutions here, but I was having headache-free orgasms while my neck and shoulders were in no better state than they ever were, in fact I would say I was more worried about them during that period than I was about the orgasm headache problem.
I'm trying to find a receptive GP at the moment, and get back to the neurologist I saw a couple of years ago. The abdominal thing worries me; maybe the surgeons really have messed up something muscular down there (I've had 4 abdo ops - mainly hernia repairs) and it's having an effect on circulation or something during orgasm - or, more accurately, in the immediate run-up to orgasm. The thing is, it's practically impossible to take all tension out of orgasm. You can try to be as relaxed as anything, think sensual thoughts, but there always comes a moment when the sexual excitement really has to kick in - you can feel yourself tense up to a certain extent, it's an integral part of the pleasure, a necessary precursor. Maybe it's me, but I've always orgasmed that way, doesn't everyone?
I'm going to experiment with both hydration - I find I am frequently dehydrated but oddly lack a thirst reaction - and oxygenation as per zoec's post.
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Zoec, I think you're really onto something. There have been a few posts on this thread that have mentioned breathing as a factor, but until recently I've not seen it as a significant factor in my own headaches. You've made me think again, and what I've been reading lately definitely backs you up - AND it is having good results. Wish I could buy you a lot of beers.
I've been trying to nail down what actually causes the pain of a headache - any headache, not just coital. And, as I'm sure we all know, you plunge into a mass of information on all kinds of head pain & migraine, it's enough to cause one. I wanted to isolate one particular issue: if sex headaches are a form of vascular headache - i.e. related to blood flow - is it vasodilation (blood vessels expanding) or vasoconstriction (blood vessels contracting) that causes the pain? Both are often mentioned on headache sites, and it's not easy to generalise, as many of the body's systems seem to involve feedback loops of various kinds, where one thing happening will set off a reaction to oppose it, which might overreact or underreact, etc. - and things aren't always the same for the brain as for the rest of the body. But, on the whole, it seemed to be the dilation of cerebral arteries that most people think causes the pain at the end of the chain of events, so I was looking for things that cause vasodilation. One of the simplest is CO2 - carbon dioxide, which we have a lot of, dissolved in our blood, as the main waste product of body cells, eventually exhaled from the lungs and replaced with oxygen.
Generally, then, if CO2 relaxes artery walls, and you're not breathing enough for some reason, your blood CO2 is higher, and your arteries are more relaxed. If you hyperventilate (overbreathe), blood CO2 content is lowered, arteries tighten - in the brain, this can eventually lead to hypoxia (not enough oxygen), which is why you feel dizzy, and may faint. The effect is strong enough to outweigh the effect of the extra oxygen in the blood from the overbreathing.
I've read that anaesthetists use the fact that lower levels of CO2 in the blood cause cerebral vasoconstriction - i.e. narrowed brain arteries - during brain surgery: they slightly hyperventilate the patient to decrease brain volume and blood flow, so the surgery isn't hampered by excessive bleeding. It's also used with brain injuries generally, to reduce intracranial pressure.
Could it be that, during sex or masturbation, if we're tensing up, deliberately inducing tension, including by unnoticed, intermittent breath-holding maybe, we're inadvertently putting our brain arteries into a more relaxed, floppy-walled state than normal? So when the big blood pressure spike arrives at orgasm - or seconds before it - the amount by which they expand might be greater - and it's the expansion, most headache experts seem to agree, that causes the pain.
Breathing deeply - I don't mean going mad and hyperventilating to the point of blackout! - might therefore help prevent this. I know this is pretty simplistic; trawling round the subject on the net shows that the various bodily mechanisms and hormonal events around orgasm are quite complex. But it seems to work!
It also helps explain why, whenever I orgasm through sex - even if it's sex that finishes with masturbation - I never get the really bad headaches: they vary between moderate and none at all. I reckon it's because, during sexual activity, I breathe more. I'm generally more physically active during sex (i.e. more than just lying on my back!) and as far as I can tell, I don't do as much of the tensing-up, low-breathing thing. Even if I end up masturbating myself to orgasm at the end, it doesn't take anywhere near as long as solo masturbation because I'm already well aroused, so the tensing-up is either shorter or I just don't do it; the stimulation is coming in other ways. In fact, I often let myself breathe quite hard because I've noticed it helps turn my partner on - and vice versa; it's sexy to see and hear the effect you're having on someone.
I suspect that, when masturbating, I haven't noticed my tendency to under-breathe, even during a 'normal' orgasm (i.e. no headache), possibly because I'm breathing hard afterwards, to compensate, as I wind down. And I'm asthmatic, I don't suppose that helps. And when I get a bad headache, well, noticing anything except the pain goes out the window.
Now, this is going to be a personal thing: generally speaking, I over-tense during masturbation but not so much during sex. Someone else might tense during sex, or it might be position-related, or it might be a compensation for a position or technique that isn't 'working', i.e. isn't stimulating enough. I don't want to be rude or crude, but ever had a really rubbish handjob? Ever had to use your imagination - and physically tense up - a lot to sort of bring YOURSELF off, to make up for the lack of effective stimulation from your partner?
In other words, maybe we need to discover our own personal patterns of tension and breathing during sex and masturbation. It's amazingly easy to be totally unaware of what we're doing, we're often following established 'pathways' to arousal and orgasm.
Anyway, I've been trying deep breathing during arousal; out of 4 'experiments' - only 1 of which was actual sex - I've had mixed results: no headache on 1 occasion, moderate (2 out of 5 on my personal pain score) on 2 occasions, including sex, and a 3 out of 5. But on all these occasions, the onset of the headache has been delayed for around 5 seconds, and it's a lot less sudden, i.e. the pain, when it comes, doesn't crash in, it sort of ramps up. Now that is very welcome to me! It means I can actually enjoy the orgasm, even if I know some level of headache is coming soon. The prospect of pleasure has done a lot to lift the gloom and lack of interest in sex - which has sometimes seemed impenetrable, as I'm sure you will appreciate.
So, follow zoec and try to breathe more! It's kind of weird if you're not used to it. And I've noticed it sometimes seems to affect my erection a little bit during masturbation - but I just have to combat that with better imagination.
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Hi. I'm 18 and a girl. =) This just happened to me for the first time around 2pm yestarday.
It was one of those that are sudden and happen the second the orgasm starts. My entire head was pounding and I had to put pressure on my temples just to get to the bed. (lol) I immediatly went to sleep and I slept for about 12 hours. I woke up about 2 hours ago and the pain receeded to a dull roar, but it's still there, in the back of my head, on the left side. It wraps from the middle of my head down around the bottom to my jaw.
I've been looking up all kinds of things on the internet, trying to figure out what's wrong with me. (That's how I found this site.) I keep getting mixed messages. Some say that it's nothing serious and others say I should go get an MRI. I can't afford to go to the doctor and I'm leaving for Basic Training for the ARMY next month. If there is something wrong with me then, I can't go and basically my entire life plan has to change. Does anybody have any advise other than go to the doctor?
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I have also experienced this. It was so bad that I went to the clinic, they sent me directly to the hospital to ensure that I did not have a bleed in my brain or an aneurysm. The suggestion that seemed to help solve the problem is deep breathing exercises and try not to tense up the shoulder and neck muscles during orgasm. Also keeping the bedroom (or whatever room you happen to be using) on the cooler side and taking a two week or so break from orgasms and taking a couple of Ibuprofen about an hour before sex may help to prevent this from happening. My doctor also gave me migraine meds to take immediately afterward to prevent the resulting migraine.
Good luck and happy headache! :)
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Headache is really major problem,your views can be very helpful.Thanks.
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Masturbation makes you feel headache. Masturbate also makes your brain become dull. I suggest you to drink 2 cups of green tea after masturbate. Green tea will remove the headache. The headache caused by masturbation is different from the usual headache that you got when you have fever. After masturbate (with semen coming out) the headache felt inside the skull. If there is climax ejaculation with climax semen is coming out from your sexual organ, you will get headache. If little semen or no semen is coming out, you will get no headache. I found that green tea to cure the headache by coincidence. I have suffered from masturbation headache more than a decade. Here is my story how I meet the green tea. One day I went to other country as a tourist and stayed in a 5 star hotel. It was the first time I stayed in a 5 star hotel. In the hotel I found green tea. I am not familiar with its taste. After going home from holiday I bought the same green tea. I masturbate as usual many times in a week and I drank the tea. After drinking I found that my headache diminished with one cup and vanish after the second cup. I was a bit surprised. First I thought it was coincidence but every time I drink the green tea after masturbate I found that my headache diminished or prevented before it obviously felt.
Here I give you the link about the green tea that I usually drink. It is OSK Japanese green tea. I recommend you to drink high quality Japanese green tea like this one because I am not sure about other low grade green tea. I masturbate thousands times from my childhood and I have suffered from headache more than 10 year before I found green tea. Thank to god who makes me meet the green tea by coincidence.
Believe my story. Try the green tea if you feel headache, tiredness, dreamless sleep, dehydration-like fatigue (actually it is not dehydration but you might feel like dehydrated after masturbate for a long period of time e.g. after months or years, even if you drink many cups of plain water won’t cure). Green tea helps the above problems but it does not cure erectile dysfunction.
Tips for preparing the OSK Japanese green tea to maximize its benefits.
(1) Boil the tap water
(2) Put the tea bag inside the cup (a cup which is medium or big size)
(3) Pour the hot water into the cup. It is better that the hot water hit tea bag while you pour it.
(4) Use a spoon. Stir it left to right or right to left. Left to right and back to left is counted as one time. After that from left again move to right and move back to left is counted as 2 times. Stir at least 160 times or more or 200 times until it is deep green.
(5) Drink it while it is still hot or warm. Finish it while it is still warm. After masturbate I don’t recommend you to drink it if it is already cool.
(6) Make the second cup and prepare it as instructed above and drink it while it is still hot or warm.
My email is heinz4084@gmail.com
The link below is not my blog. It shows the pictures of the OSK Japanese green tea
http://myyummycruise.blogspot.com/2007/07/japanese-green-tea.html
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Hi all, 31 male here. Experienced this headache for the first time about 4 days ago. The first time it happened I was very concerned as I thought I was having an aneurysm. This is a serious problem for me as my dad passed away suddenly from either an aneurysm or heart attack (we didn't do an autopsy, but doctor said it looked more like an aneurysm) when I was 17. Have a family history of high blood pressure, yet mine is relatively normal (on the higher side of normal, but normal none the less).
I've restrained from masturbation and haven't really done any major physical activities. Today I tried masturbating again and thought everything was fine, but the pain was soon there again. After finding this site and reading through the pages and pages and pages of posts I've started to see a common link between neck/jaw/back injuries. About a month ago I went to the dentist after waking up with intense pain in my jaw and my jaw actually misaligning itself (dunno how it happened and the doc was perplexed). After some antibiotics and a few days later my jaw was back to normal.
A couple weeks ago, I was working and happened to throw my back out. This is normal and usually occurs once a year. After a few days I'm back to normal. After having done the whole "Wii Fit" thing, I learned that I actually have really poor posture. It should also be worth noting that the oak pollen has been extremely bad this year and while I don't have any "noticeable" symptoms, I still could be suffering from allergies.
I've been wanting to get a scan done but I honestly just don't have the money for it right now (i do contractual labor and have no insurance). Though I have a feeling it is something along the lines of neck/jaw issues. Just thought I would share my experience and thank the other users for sharing theirs. While I'm still concerned, I'm not freaking out AS much as I've had some jaw/neck/back issues recently (not to mention lots of stress in my life lately). Going to go about seeing a chiropractor and getting some posture improving shoes and see if this helps, all the while saving up for a scan.
Will try and repost any updates!
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I have been experiencing headaes exactly as you describe--now 4 times. Thunderclap lasts about an hour or two followed by migraine lasting 5-6 days. CT scan clear. What have you done for this?
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Hello All. I've read through most of these links, and I thought I'd share a few things. I am currently in this "thunderclap" state. As soon as I get fairly close to an ejaculation (I'm a 48 year old male), KABOOM!! The pressure and throbbing at the back of my lower head, at the top of the spine, is very close to unbearable. worst headache I've ever had, by far. Painful!! Worst time for this, too, as, well, you know how great an orgasm is! Man, I feel at times that this is the Big Guys way of stopping sexual encounters. Seriously it makes the thought of sex scary. And it happens upon getting close, you do not have to actually "fire your gun", so to say.
This is the third time in my life that I have had this cephalorgasmic(coital) cephalalgia. The good news is, for me, it only lasts about one week. Then things all return to normal, and I can enjoy sex again. It will go away for most of you!! It had been around 6 years since my last episode. Lasted one week, then had 6 years of pain-free orgasms. I'm on day three now, and tried to "enlarge" myself, ...... big mistake.
I am very glad to read about the breathing part, as I do hold my breath when nearing climax, and that is precisely when the pain begins. And yes, I do fall into the injury category. On my 40th birthday, I had two bicycle wrecks, and in my late 20's had been thrown from a Jeep, landing on my head and making my neck sore for quite a while. Can't wait for this thing to go away!!
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Back again with some updates. As of day 9, decided to see if this problem was still present, after abstaining for the past week, and ........it still resulted in a migraine. Though not quite as intense, but very bad still. Intense pain did subside after a ten minutes. Waited 4 more days, and BINGO! I experienced absolutely no headache!!!!!!!! So this lasted for a full two weeks, hopefully gone for good.
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So to be clear, possible causes for the benign thunderclap pain (clear CT, lumbar, MRI, MRA):
High blood pressure
Sinus/tooth/ear bacterial infection
Hormonal imbalance
Anti-depressant interaction
Overweight/diabetes
Stress/tension
Pinched nerves connecting brain to spinal cord
Did I list them all? Trying to eliminate obvious ones.
My first attack was simultaneous with orgasm at elevated altitude. Second was three days later, one hour after receiving a flu shot and 30 min after taking Relpax (no sex or exertion). I am living in mortal terror of the next one....still suffering from lingering pain three days later.
Thank you to all serious posters for your info, especially oneeyedguy and the other suggestion about bacterial toxins. I have low blood pressure, no history of migraines, but chronic sinus infections. Please help!
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I posted some time back about bacterial infection or inflammation in the head causing this problem. Almost 2 years ago, wow, time flies!
I am pretty sure my theory is correct. But I think the focus should be on inflammation rather than on an infection, although an infection can also be a possible cause.
I have not tried using antibiotics to clear up infections/inflammation in the head. But I don't have the problem any more. After starting to get these headaches, I stopped having sex for a long time, until recently, when I found that I didn't get them during sex.
I used to have a longstanding large abscess in my upper jaw behind my teeth which I had for several years. I also used to have several sebaceous cysts on my back, one of which was about 3cm wide and 1cm high (huge!), and which would regularly get inflamed, and I had had these cysts for several years, during the same period of time I had the jaw abscess.
Since earlier this year, I have started on a mostly organic food regimen, or rather, a regimen of avoiding as much GMO foods as possible. Unfortunately, it is practically impossible to absolutely avoid GMO foods.
The abscess in my jaw cleared up completely. And to think I had been suffering with inflammation, pain, swelling, pus oozing and bad breath for so many years! Now, all gone. The large abscess on my back burst and, after draining its contents, healed nicely, without any sebum filling it up again, which is what would always happen to my sebaceous cysts no matter how often I squeeze out the fat.
Occasionally now, my old jaw abscess would swell up for a few days. That is usually whenever I have eaten out and had probably taken some GMO food unintentionally. And, every time, after several days of cooking at home and eating in, the abscess goes down to zero. My abscess has become a gauge of sorts, swelling up the next day whenever I happen to take any GMO food.
So, my cure, I am sure, was going on the non-GMO foods regimen.
There have been no proper studies on the long-term effects of GMO foods on human health. Whereas, only the short-term effects on laboratory animals of consumption of GMO foods have been observed, and most of these effects are not nice at all, some downright nasty, but these results have reportedly either been altered or suppressed. The US FDA has approved and sanctioned masses of GMO foods and GMO food derivatives, allowing them to be introduced into the food chain. GMOs, both the crops and their derivatives and the foods they are made into, are exported throughout the world and can be found in every country. We are eating large amounts of such foods every single day.
Going on a non-GMO diet is very, very hard. Almost everything in the supermarket, including some fresh produce, contain GMOs.
Ever since the 1990s, over 80% of our foods contain GMOs. Also, ever since then, there has been a persistent epidemic of all sorts of chronic health problems.
There are many stories of personal experiences, which you can find on the Internet, of the effects of consumption of GMO foods. Here is just one victim's story: http://aspartame.ca/page_a9br1.html. The main website has a lot of info on Aspartame and GMOs. I have had other bad health problems too, which stopped after I stopped taking another GM food, but I won't go into detail here.
What could be the possible connection between consumption of GMO foods and coital cephalgia? Inflammation.
It is believed that GMO foods sets up an allergic reaction in the body of a constant inflammation state at the cellular level. Since this abnormal inflammation is so pervasive, the body probably cannot deal with it efficiently, or perhaps cannot use substances which it does not recognise. The liver and kidneys are either unable to process these substances, or they cannot cope with the inflammation. Instead, these substances accumulate in the body and/or cause a reaction, creating all kinds of chronic health problems, such as pockets of inflammation. If you have inflammation in the head, then you may get the coital cephalgia.
Nano-particles, e.g., have been found to accumulate in the liver and kidneys in large amounts, indicating that these waste processing organs had attempted to process the nano-particles but were unsuccessful. And, yes, we are already also ingesting/absorbing nano-particles through mass-produced consumer products. Many sunscreens and cosmetics contain them.
What you can try: Avoid GMO foods. If you can avoid the Big 4 GMOs, you will be able to cut out about 90% of these foods from your diet. The Big 4 are Corn, Soy, Canola and Cottonseed. Alert: each of these or their derivatives can be disguised as other names in ingredient lists, with their source almost always never stated.
For starters, cut out Aspartame. No Diet Coke/Pepsi/sodas, or any kind of diet drink or diet food, or anything that says low-sugar or sugar-free or sugarless (e.g., almost all breath mints contain Aspartame and/or Acesulflame). No artificial sweeteners of any kind (Equal, Nutrasweet, Splenda, Sucralose, Sweet N Low, etc). Aspartame can cause diabetes. Try laying off Aspartame and all artificial sugars (another one is saccharin) for a few days and see if you still get the headaches.
No spreads, such as jams or peanut butter (make your own). No soft drinks or cordials or sweet drinks of any kind (talking about manufactured drinks). No foods containing high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, golden syrup, liquid sugar, fruit sugar, fructose, glucose, sucrose, dextrose, maltose, maltodextrin, maltitol, sorbitol, xylitol, and many more sweeteners (they change/disguise the names all the time). No foods made from or containing phenylalanine (many candies and even vitamins contain this). No ascorbic acid, a Vitamin C manufactured from starch. Almost all of these are made from GM corn. In fact, no foods made from or containing any form of corn or corn derivatives. Another name used on labels for corn is maize.
No reconstituted or filled milk or 'fortified' milk. No foods made from or containing soy oil or vegetable oil or containing soy derivatives, such as lecithin. No foods containing vegetable or soy or hydrolysed protein, among other names.
No margarine or soft butter or dairy spread. No non-dairy creamer in any form (made from Canola oil). No Canola oil or any food made from or containing it.
No Cottonseed oil or any food made from or containing it.
No MSG or any foods containing it.
If in doubt about the source of some of the ingredients on packages, the safest is to not buy the product.
Consume foods which are as close as possible to its whole form or as found in nature.
Good luck!
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Hi all,
I just had my first thunderclap headache with orgasm, and definately see from this blog that there are overlapping antecedents to the migraine to what I experienced. What we need to consider are medications we are taking, other symptoms present prior to migraine, and understand that migraines are often, if not typically a result of sudden vascular dilation. Here is my experience:
- I have had a mild sinus headache and symptoms of a cold for 2 days, and have been taking OTC sinus medication.
- I am also on an SSRI antidepressant that is known to increase difficulty of achieving orgasm in men and women (not ED, but difficulty climaxing). Thus, I have had to "work harder" than usual to achieve orgasm regardless of the circumstance
- I had 3 cups of coffee this morning (caffeine is a vaso-constrictor that may want to consider as a factor that could enhance the vasodilation that occurs during orgasm
- This morning, my wife and I were in a rush but started making love. It was taking awhile to climax... I had to work exceptionally (mentally and physically) to climax
- I experienced a massive headache immediately before and during orgasm
- I ate 2 aspirin, used cold compress, then took hot shower to open sinuses. 1 hour later, I still have a mild headache and some nausea
From my experience and from your postings some of the common themes are: sinus issues, rushing/working harder than usual to climax
Other factors to consider: caffeine consumption prior to sex; OTC sinus medication ingredients; SSRI antidepressant medication
hope this helps
When
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Update on my headaches since last post (Nov 2009). At that time I was concentrating on breathing techniques, and they have definitely helped, though the 'success rate' - i.e. relatively headache-free orgasms - has been patchy. I've been frustrated at the lack of consistency of any of my 'counter-measures'.
Then I read this: http://casereports.bmj.com/content/2010/bcr.10.2009.2359.abstract
This is just a summary of a full medical report that you'd have to pay about £30 for, and I haven't. But the basic story seems clear: a guy who suffered from orgasm headaches for years on end cured them by making love to his wife while she was pregnant, thereby exposing himself to the considerable amounts of progesterone women produce during that period (8-10 times higher than normal cycle). His doctor prescribed progestogen medication to continue after the birth.
I had already done some reading on the role of hormones, without coming to any hard conclusions (I'm pretty scientifically literate I think, but some of this stuff is full-on). There's quite a lot of material on the web about the link between oestrogen and headaches, e.g. http://premenstrualmigraineprevent.com/
And there's a fair amount on 'oestrogen syndrome', a condition where the balance of progesterone and oestrogen in both men and women (both sexes have both hormones) is upset by the presence of xenoestrogens and phytoestrogens, i.e. potentially harmful chemical and plant-based compounds that have oestrogen-like effects, such as insecticides and herbicides used in agriculture, PCBs, preservatives, plasticizers, parabens, detergents. Both men and women can end up overloaded with oestrogens. Women are the obvious candidates for major falls in hormone levels, during menopause, but men's levels of progesterone - which is necessary for the production of testosterone - fall in middle age too. Not as drastically, but it is implicated in prostate enlargement among other things. One solution offered is natural progesterone cream.
Well, cut a long story short, I decided to try it. I ended up here - http://www.progesterone.co.uk/menandprogeserone.htm - which makes for interesting reading, and I've been using it for about 2 months now, and I haven't had a bad headache with orgasm since then. I'm not claiming a cure, nowhere near. The feeling of tension and 'near-headache' I've been having more or less constantly lately is still there. I still feel I need serious ongoing massage to neck and shoulders (can't afford it though, in London you're talking £40 a session for any serious masage), and once or twice I've had a minor intensification of this dull buzz after orgasm. But no headbusters or anything near.
2 months isn't long - I've had a period of natural remission that was longer than that, and in any case we're not talking very many orgasms in total, maybe 1 every 5/6 days, say 10-12 (God, did I ever think I'd be posting my orgasm frequency on the web?!) - but I'm cautiously optimistic.
I'm in no way recommending the use of the cream - that's a personal decision for everyone, in a way it's practically HRT for men; I'm just relating my experiences. There are several websites promoting progesterone cream for men; many of them seem genuine to me. There seems to be a general opinion that yam extract isn't as good as the 'natural' progesterone creams but on the other hand all these products seem to be plant-based (I guess the only truly natural progesterone is produced in the body) which is why I've used inverted commas.
There's no denying that this isn't accepted mainstream medical treatment but in my opinion it's not utter quackery either. I think the effects of hormones on our health in general, especially male health, are poorly understood, certainly by most men. We usually attribute 'hormonal' behaviours and symptoms to the opposite sex, but I've often had a sneaking suspicion that men aren't as constant in this respect as we'd like to think - and if the environmental oestrogens are as powerful as some say, then it's perhaps no surprise that more and more men are exhibiting symptoms of an excess of feminizing hormones - fat retention, 'manboobs' (gynecomastia) - and headaches. I don't imagine xenoestrogens cause orgasm headaches all by themselves, but I think headaches/migraines may result from a build-up of factors which, when they 'overflow', lead to illness.
One more thing: since reading about oestrogens, and various chemicals that mimic oestrogen, I've been thinking about what I use. And I have to admit that both baby oil and Vaseline have played a big part in my sex life - well, my solo sex life, certainly. I've used them as lubricants and because they just felt sexy! But maybe rubbing these substances into my cock several times a week hasn't exactly helped? I've certainly stopped now.
Does the progesterone really work? Are these creams just placebos? I don't know. But I've noticed a marked shortening of my temper, increased feelings of anger and competitiveness since using the cream - I've had to be a bit careful not to snap at people! If it is getting into my system - and the websites agree that via the skin is by far the best way (oral ingestion would lead to most of the dose being filtered out by the liver) - then an increase in testosterone would be expected. I've had no other signs, no increase in libido - but then that's a very fraught area since the headaches began.
Anyway, I'm still breathing! And now, rubbing in the cream once a day. I hope it works, I'm not ready to surrender sex and the whole erotic side of life just yet. I'll try to update sooner than 11 months' time...
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Some of you may want to look for the POIS (post orgasm illness syndrome) thread
in the "new theories" section on this forum.
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First, don't give up. Many of these headaches simply go away in time. And even if they don't, there are various ways to deal with them.
Talk to your doctor and discuss your family history. Often, you'll find that a history of migraine may give you a clue about the cause.
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Re blinding, searing headaches alongside arousal/orgasm. I know I won't care much when I'm dead, but what an embarrassing sort of mess for someone to find when they come home from work.(Stroking out, batteries dead, me too) Can't help but wonder what the relationship is within the vascular system that leaves me feeling as though someone has taken my brain out of its safe casing and tossed it into a flaming wok. Getting so that the 15 second orgasm is not worth the three hour headache.
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I started getting these about 4 years ago. I curl up in a ball and hold my head. Freaked my girl out the first time it happened. I thought my head was exploded. I only get them after drinking a little too much the night before. Kind of during the hangover headache. I feel it start to build as I get ready to ejaculate. if I feel it coming on. I stop and just have a dull ache.
Im glad I found this page to know other have had it also. I dont get them less I had been drinking. I was wondering if anyone else here have the same circumstances?
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I just found this on Wikipedia, what a blessing!
Coital cephalalgia
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First of all I want to thank all of you for your insight on this most concerning topic.
I did not realize reading through the first four of five pages that the majority of you were women? Suffice it to say that revelation actually turned me on. However, in light of my very new headache issue I'm not nearly as thrilled about that as I would have been a week ago. lol
I am a healthy, fit and sexually active 44 year old male. About a week ago, for the very first time, I suffered the dreaded "back of the head" headache during masturbation. It happened just before ejaculation and was as severe as any headache I have EVER experienced. Frankly, it scared the hell out of me. Next day, the very same story. I have not seen a DR. as has been advised by some of you as of yet. I may very well do so if this continues on for very long. I also have not told my wife about this episode. She is not as sexual as I am so I am hoping to "cure" the problem before intercourse will take place. I can satisfy her other ways and avoid intercourse for the time being.
Again, you guys have described my problems to a tee here and I FEEL MUCH BETTER about it now than I did this morning.. It has really consumed my thoughts the last few days.
I believe the term Coital Cephalagia is how it is mostly described throughout the internet?. I hope it goes away on its own as many of you have said it may... I will keep you updated. Thanks to all for sharing as I know how personal this is.
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Update since last November: I've been continuing with the progesterone cream but if I'm honest I'm using it only about once or twice a week. I'm still doing the deep breathing leading up to orgasm. Two new things: I'm now getting proper massages - and finding out just how inflexible and unfit I've become this last ten years or so! - and I'm deliberately leaving it longer between orgasms. This seems to help quite a bit.
I've read a lot around this subject - I'm guessing we all have - and there's a fair bit of stuff out there talking about the enervating effects of ejaculation. I must admit, I've largely ignored it, mainly because it's not what I want to hear. These bloody headaches are ruining my orgasms, the last thing I want to read about is how orgasms are somehow 'bad' for you anyway. But spacing things out does appear to work. I'm talking sort of 2-3 week gaps here, whereas previously it was 2-3 days. Still a far cry from teenage years, when it was 2-3 hours some days... But, not to put too fine a point on it, spacing 'em out means a better experience all round: better erection, more arousal, more satisfying orgasm - and, crucially, less head pain.
It might all be down to the effects of the massage on my appalling posture (forward head posture, upper crossed syndrome, whatever, I'm so round-shouldered it's untrue & this makes my neck ache) - or the progesterone - but I don't think so. Oddly, what seems to work best is to aim for a longer, more drawn-out experience during sex, not worrying particularly about erection coming and going, concentrating on my partner much more gives a really satisfying 'return', i.e. turning her on turns me on. And during masturbation, the opposite: aim for a short experience. Get aroused quickly, bring it to a quick conclusion, sort of not giving the headache much chance to build. And you can't do that if you're doing it too often. It can end up being 'hard work' - and that's maybe a big part of the problem? I dunno - it's a bit paradoxical, but I'm just reporting what works at the moment.
Overall, I'm having more good orgasms than bad, roughly 2 to 1. By 'good' I don't mean always pain-free, but some of them definitely are absolutely pain-free. Others are still accompanied by the general background 'buzz' of borderline headache, which sometimes intensifies a bit at orgasm - or, more usually, thanks to the breathing, some seconds afterwards. And then there are the proper headaches - still delayed, mostly - which make me think I'm making no progress whatever. But I am; it's patchy and frustrating and sometimes seems to follow a pattern and sometimes not, but I am enjoying sexual activity more often than not.
So I'm carrying on with the massage - and plenty of exercise - with a bit of optimism. Best of luck to everyone; never give up.
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Do you even know what causes your headaches? Sure it may appear when having sex, but like all of us, headaches are caused by blood rushing to the head.
Out of curiosity, are you using Viagra?
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What I am saying, is just because you have a headache during sex does not necesserily mean that the sex is causing your pain. Viagra loosens blood flow, so after sex, just after the orgasm, the blood is racing through your body at a much higher rate than usual. Not to mention, blood clots, or even cancer can lead to headaches. Please don't specify your problem to such a simplistic form of catagorizing.
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Gosh, I though I was some kind of freak getting so much pain in my head when I orgasm! Good to know I'm not the only one (and you can't really talk about it or expain to your client why you'd rather chop you head off than keep it on!)
Thundercap has happened to me about 5 times now during climaxing and immediately before - I've tried relaxing my neck and shoulders and not tense up, but when the thundercap comes on there's nothing I can do to stop it.
Last one I had was a full 7 days ago and the headache just wont stop - I cant keep taking strong painkillers at night just to be able to sleep, and am struggling to do my work etc., etc.
The pain seems worst on the left side of my neck to the cap of my scull and benind my left ear and left shoulder, L'm wincing at every hearbeat as the pain pulsates.
Gosh I sound like a real whinger - but am at my wits end! Please don't send me to the doctor - he'll give me asprin or something equally useless!
By the way I'm a woman, 51. It seems mostly men suffer and many around my age. I haven't read much about it going on for this long though.
Help & advice on this prolonged problem will be much appreciated.
Thanks all xx M
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I am a 59 year old female who just experienced a Thunderclap Headache during orgasm 3 days ago. I was stunned. It's never happened before. It FREAKED ME OUT! It's happened twice since and I kept wondering if it was a precursor to a stroke. I have been googling all morning and just found this link. I'm astonished at how many people experience this. Like everyone else, it's just prior to climax. The first time was during sex. Then twice after during masturbation. Frustration does not BEGIN to cover my feeling about this. Last night was the worst because it ended up being so severe, it felt like someone was shoving knives into my eyes! The pain kept up for a while and I had to take an Alieve to get it to calm down. Anybody have any suggestions for how to make this better, what causes it, etc.? Thanks!
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I am a 59 year old female who just experienced a Thunderclap Headache during orgasm 3 days ago. I was stunned. It's never happened before. It FREAKED ME OUT! It's happened twice since and I kept wondering if it was a precursor to a stroke. I have been googling all morning and just found this link. I'm astonished at how many people experience this. Like everyone else, it's just prior to climax. The first time was during sex. Then twice after during masturbation. Frustration does not BEGIN to cover my feeling about this. Last night was the worst because it ended up being so severe, it felt like someone was shoving knives into my eyes! The pain kept up for a while and I had to take an Alieve to get it to calm down. Anybody have any suggestions for how to make this better, what causes it, etc.? Thanks!
Read this and listen to me
My wife died just under three weeks ago from an orgasm that was so intense she had a brain aneurysm and died....
This is serious business and I want you to go get an MRI immediately. This is not something to play with.. I wish we had a warning sign, but I am left alone to ponder as a 47 year old woman shouldnt died
David
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Some developments - and hope? - to let you know about. Here's a brief summary of how I got here:
• April 2007: First orgasm headache aged 46, male, 6ft, 15st/240lb, after abdominal op. Took up Pilates for neck/shoulder tension, also started to see osteopath
• Dec 2007: 1st post on this board
• Feb 2008: CT scan to rule out aneurysms, malformations etc: negative. Acupuncture, which helped my eyesight but not the headaches
• Apr 2008: after bad flu, headaches begin to fade even tho neck still not good. WTF?! Saw nice neurologist who said keep an orgasm diary.
• Jun 2009: they're back, with a bang —> hospital with a massive one + abdo cramps. Have given up all osteo etc - can't afford it. Start paying attention to breathing, as per Zoec's advice. Oxygen constricts brain arteries, CO2 dilates them, so if dilation=pain, oxygen is good? Seems to work!
• Nov 2010: Breathing strategy having only patchy success; I spotted a case report in the BMJ - http://casereports.bmj.com/content/2010/bcr.10.2009.2359.abstract - about a guy whose sex headaches go away whenever his wife gets pregnant, so his doc gives him a progestogen pill & it works in between pregnancies. I start using progesterone cream - it seems to work, but we've been here before...
• June 2011: Spacing orgasms by weeks, having more 'OK' ones than bad ones but neither cream nor breathing is a magic cure, the headaches still seem random - and there's a constant 'buzz' of borderline headache. GP has prescribed Sumatriptan, dreadful: felt like I was having a heart attack. Referred to neurologist No.2, he prescribed calcium channel blockers, diltiazem - why? They were rubbish, made headaches worse. They relax arteries, so why would they help?
Right, up to date. I'm afraid physically I feel I'm back to square one, just had another massive head-and-stomach job like June 09, had to call ambulance, it was so crippling. And once again, hours in A&E until pain eases off a bit, then home. Back to GP, back to neurologist, hoping for nice No.1, maybe it'll be No.3?
Trying to review my approach to coping with this bloody condition, it seems to me that, just as I think something's working, it stops working. I'll leave myself alone for 3 weeks, follow all my guidelines, breathe properly etc, and whammo, I get the big ache. The BMJ report I found on the web still seems the best hope, so instead of just reading the summary, I bought the full text, it makes very interesting reading. It turns out the guy in question was getting the Type 3 sexual headache, ie the ones that build up after orgasm, in his case about 20 minutes afterwards, and pounding for 3 days! Not the explosive-at-orgasm-then-gradually-fading Type 2s that most of us on this board suffer from. Still, his headache relief matches up with typical female progesterone (P4) production during pregnancy, ie from 8 weeks after conception until delivery - so it seems it's definitely the P4 that's helping. The article, oddly enough, is a bit inconclusive on the actual mechanics - it seems clear to me that he is getting exposed to his wife's P4 via sexual intercourse - how else? The article says:
'Close cohabitation and absorption of progesterone through touch and smell could be the beneficial mechanism. Progesterone could also be absorbed per urethra during coitus, but this would not explain the beneficial affects of the compound after non-coital sexual activity.'
Hm, touch and smell? Anyway, in between two pregnancies, he persuades his doc to prescribe him P4 pills after trying 8% progesterone cream rubbed into the top lip and nostrils - which doesn't work - and another drug, the dopamine agonist bromocriptine, which also fails. The actual drug he gets is norethisterone, used in contraceptive pills. He takes one (5mg) about 30 mins before sex, and gets 95% relief from pain. Sometimes he waits, and takes 10mg a few minutes after sex, ie in the 20-minute window before the headache starts, and gets 100% relief!
The guy's symptoms were more than just the headache - which was a pounding sensation felt across his whole head, with no nausea or vomiting - he also suffered, amongst other things,
• Photophobia
• Increased muscle tension and irritability
• Anxiety and impaired cognitive functioning
• Difficulty concentrating
• Nightmares
• Fatigue, especially in the mornings
All of which look a lot like the Post-Orgasmic Illness Syndrome (POIS) discussed elsewhere on this site. There is clearly a lot of overlap between the two conditions. He took the oral norethisterone for about 9-10 months, seemed to tolerate it well, didn't seem to suffer side-effects and had relief from his other symptoms as well as the headaches. They tested his progesterone levels during his wife's second pregnancy - ie while he wasn't taking the pills - but didn't find them raised above the normal range for a male.
I'm still working out the implications of this, but one thing seems clear: the cream doesn't necessarily work, at least not for everyone. But the finger of causation - or at least, a finger - is still pointed squarely at the body's endocrine functions. Of all the complex, interreacting hormones, norepinephrine (noradrenaline) seems to stick out as capable of provoking headaches - eg in this case report - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2148749/ - (link to full text PDF available) when norepinephrine mixed with dental local anaesthetic causes a series of sudden, intense headaches. Norepinephrine certainly spikes at orgasm, but not everyone gets the headaches. There's clearly something else going on. Either we get way more norepinephrine than most, or something else potentiates it, eg a blood pressure spike, or the pre-existing state of our cerebral arteries.
You'll have noticed a lot of sites, such as herballove.com, drlin.net, cure-erectile-dysfunction.org, actionlove.com, talking about hormones and neurotransmitters in terms of 'burnout', usually as the alleged result of 'sexual exhaustion' or 'over-masturbation'. I'm not sure I take their claims at face value, given that a) they appear to claim that practically every hormone we've got is 'destroyed', 'disabled', out of whack in some way, b) they all end up selling you a nutrition potion and c) I simply don't believe I have ever been sexually exhausted, certainly I've never masturbated to the alarming levels described in some of their case studies! But I am quite stressed out, have had really bad sleep because of shift work, feel a lot of anger and depression at times - not just over orgasm headaches. So I don't dismiss their claims entirely; they may be onto something.
And I'm off to my GP asap, to get referred back to a neurologist. And I'll ask, why have I never yet, in 4 years, been prescribed either of the two drugs most often quoted as effective in sexual headache - propanolol and indomethacin? And can I have a trial of oral norethisterone, please? I suppose I could always go to my local Family Planning Clinic and ask to be put on the progesterone-only Pill...
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Yes, I had this happen once or twice, and it really hurt but went away in about 5 minutes. Although I didnt worry about it at the time, it can sometimes be caused by serious things according to the Mayo clinic, such as basal artery dissection.
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I joined this forum like many others because i have been having these headaches. I am 18, Male, physically fit, and have no signs of high blood pressure. my fist headache of this type happened about a month ago. it started happening more and more and now it's every time I have sex or masturbate. I NEVER had a problem with this before and to know that every time I try and have sex this will happen.. well it F*@<ing sucks!
Writing this I have a headache from masturbating. my doctor gave me this med called indomethacin. I tried it tonight and It makes me impotent and it doesn't help with the pain. The pain is a headache that lasts anywhere from an hour to a 24hrs. It begins and ends at the back of my head at the top of my neck.
I know that people think it could be vascular and i'm starting to think that is the problem.
LISTEN UP because I'm about to tell you something that hasn't been said on this thread yet... A bit more than a moth ago I started donating plasma. A BIT MORE THAN A MONTH AGO I started having this problem!!!!!! It makes sense RIGHT?! I donate on mondays and wednesdays. this would do something to the blood pressure! I'm no expert on this but to me, this makes sense!
I'm going to stop donating plasma for a month and see if this will solve my problem. I will write back every week and let you guys know how it's going
(2hrs later)side note: The plasma center where I go to donate tells it's people to stay very hydrated before and after donating to avoid headaches. I do not drink water like I should. one more reason to stop donating. I really want the money for gas but at the cost of not being able to have sex... Screw donating!
I'm going to get a cat-scan asap to see If there is bleeding
Some glimmer of hope for my sex life!
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I was reading a few articles on the internet and most say these headaches are nothing to worry about but some with the pain down the bottom of your head and neck can be a possible problem. I'm going to attempt to attach a link but i'm new here. So bare with me lol. I have other headaches so when I had a horrid one last week just prior to orgasm it only scared me but my bf also. I suffer what the believe are migraines but also have intracranial hypertension. Basically it's an increased cerebral spinal fluid production which puts too much pressure on the brain and spinal cord yada yada.
http://http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/sex-headaches/DS00645
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i thought i would add my experience to the collection... I am 21 years old, male, i remember getting a handful of orgasm headaches about 3 years ago and they mysteriously vanished after a week or two. Last week i was running, i was pushing myself harder than usual and all of a sudden got a throbbing headache in the center of my head that felt like it was pulsating from the center of my head out to the sides. It seems to be in rythmn with my heart beat. it lasted for about an hour and slowly disapated. The next night, after i had ran the day before, i experience that same headache at the moment of orgasm and it lasted for about an hour as well. I don't typically get head aches, and I wasn't exerting myself like when i was running, i was rather relaxed, i was receiving some enjoyable oral sex until it ended in a throbbing head ache. So im convinced that its the very act of orgasm that has given me the headaches, because its happened the last three times even when i had very low levels of physical activity.
am i a rare case being so young and experiencing this? and i also saw that this is something typically experienced by females? any thoughts there? could i have injured blood vessels in my brain when i was running? i have been experiencing minor head aches hear and there, outside of the sexaches, ever since i ran. I have rarely experienced headaches before this.
they are very uncomfortable but they are not as painful as i remember when i had them three years ago. So this makes me feel like they will probably go away but i have no idea if this is something i should take more seriously.
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You may not like this: I'm beginning to think orgasm headaches might have something to do with a heart defect. A very common heart defect; ever heard of patent foramen ovale, or PFO? I'm guessing not; I hadn't come across it until I started looking for possible causes of my sex headaches. Well, it's a 'hole in the heart', but not the most serious type. Apparently, 1 in 4 people have a PFO! But they don't all have orgasm headaches... Please bear with me on this, bit of medical stuff first.
You can look this up in detail - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0002102/ or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrial_septal_defect - but basically the foramen ovale is a channel in the heart between the two upper chambers - the right atrium and the left atrium. Why is this hole needed? Well, before birth, oxygenated blood from the mother via the umbilical cord flows towards the baby's heart along veins, which enter the right atrium of the heart. It doesn't then take the normal route via the right ventricle and the lungs, because before birth your lungs are full of fluid, so the pressure in that whole 'loop' to the lungs and back to the left side of the heart (and then out to the body), is too high. So there's a hole with a sort of cat-flap of tissue - the foramen ovale - that lets it flow straight through.
When you're born, you cry and your lungs start working. The pressure in the loop drops and blood now flows via the lungs, picking up oxygen, back to the left side of your heart. The cat-flap closes and, over the next few weeks, seals up. Well, it does for 3 out of 4 of us. In the others, the flap remains open - or at least openable. This is what's meant by 'patent', so: patent foramen ovale.
It sounds serious but, for most people, it isn't. In healthy people, the blood pressure in the left atrium is generally higher then the right, so the flap stays closed. People who have dangerous, life-threatening 'holes in the heart', 'blue babies' etc, are usually suffering from much more serious defects. So what makes a PFO ever open up? Well, anything that changes the pressures. Serious lung disease can cause pulmonary hypertension, i.e. high blood pressure in the 'loop' via the lungs. this will raise pressure in the right atrium. Alternatively, anything that raises pressure in the left atrium - e.g. plain old high blood pressure - can cause blood to flow from left to right. If this keeps on happening, the right side of the heart gets overloaded with extra blood and this can cause pulmonary hypertension. When this gets high enough for the pressure on the right side to be higher than the left, the flow of blood (known as a 'shunt') reverses and you're back to a R-to-L shunt situation.
OK, enough anatomy. What problems are caused by this? Well, you've got de-oxygenated blood crossing over and getting pumped round the body. In chronic cases, this causes cyanosis (blueness), fainting, kidney problems, heart failure. But what if the high pressure is temporary? It's well known that increasing the internal pressure of the chest cavity (known as a Valsalva manoeuvre) can cause this, and in fact it's part of the diagnostic procedure for detecting a PFO. The patient is asked to exhale against a closed glottis, i.e. holding their breath. Then tiny bubbles are injected into their bloodstream and an echocardiogram looks for the bubbles passing through from one side of the heart to the other.
Temporary Valsalva manoeuvres include straining during defecation, coughing, sneezing, clearing your ears during a flight, even laughing or just bending over. And - sometimes - having an orgasm. There are lots of references in this forum to tensing, straining, involuntary breath-holding during sex and masturbation. What if some of us are 'opening up the cat-flap' during sexual activity? Heart-rate is already increased, blood pressure is already up. If this sounds far-fetched, read this - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migraine_surgery - on the possible link between PFO and migraine headaches. Many people have had their PFOs closed by insertion of an 'occluder' via a catheter, and reported reduced or banished migraines - but the picture isn't that clear; others have had the procedure without success, some have even reported worse migraines. Anyway, here's a quote:
In certain scenarios, such as when a person sneezes, the pressure in the left atrium decreases and the flap over the still-present foramen ovale opens temporarily. When this happens, blood is able to bypass the lungs and therefore the filtration process in the pulmonary system. There are at least 4 theories as to how this defect leads to migraines.
Toxic circulation:
Early speculation regarding this link centered on the idea that, because blood bypasses the detoxification process in the lungs and reenters the circulatory system uncleaned, this "toxic blood" may contain various substances that then trigger migraines. There is speculation that one of these substances is 5-HT, more commonly known as serotonin.
Micro-emboli:
There is speculation that microemboli that develop in the venous system pass through the PFO and are able to reach the central nervous system. The paradoxical embolism then reaches the cortex, triggering cortical spreading depression, a phenomenon that leads to migraines.
Genetic linkage:
One study has found a genetic linkage between migraines and PFOs. It was found that PFOs have an autosomal dominant pattern of inheritance, and that migraine with aura appears to be coinherited in some families.
Atrial natriuretic peptides:
It has been shown that the changes in interarterial pressure that occur with a PFO cause an increase in atrial natriuretic peptide (ANP), and that the ANP concentration in migraineurs with aura is lower than the concentration in control subjects. A study has shown that when the cortical spreading depression phenomenon was induced in mice, ANP was expressed in the brain. As well, ANP levels are elevated in patients with a PFO. All together, this suggests a possible correlation between ANP concentration and migraine with aura.
One further thought: during the build-up to orgasm and immediately afterwards, the body produces a lot of hormones and neurotransmitters. They must be secreted into veins; how else can a blood-borne chemical from a particular gland reach the bodily circulation except via veins to the right side of the heart, then via the lungs, then out to the whole body via the left side of the heart? Is it possible that some of these substances bypass the lungs via a PFO in the period leading up to and immediately following orgasm, especially when a Valsalva-type event is taking place? And is it possible that their concentration is thereby increased? - after all, the lungs are recognised as one of the sites where breakdown of such chemicals occurs. My prime suspect is still norepinephrine; it's known to spike around orgasm and it's known to cause severe headaches and abdominal cramps - my symptoms exactly. And heart palpitations; while it's normal for one's heart to beat more strongly during sexual activity, I've noticed mine thudding away really heavily during very headachey orgasms.
And maybe that's why propanolol sometimes works for orgasm headaches - it's a beta-blocker, it blocks the action of norepinephrine and epinephrine. I'm sure the picture isn't quite that simple. Maybe we just have increased levels of some of these hormones, and the PFO thing is a red herring. But one of the things that's baffled me on this forum is that some of us are healthy young men and women. I can understand older, less fit people getting symptoms during an exertional activity like sex, but there are people on here who work out in gyms - maybe there's a clue there? And why is the occurrence of headaches so frustratingly random? - just when you think you've found something that works, it stops working. Maybe the opening of a PFO is a bit unpredictable; maybe it's related to exertion, breath-holding. But there's a lot to chew over, and I'm sorry none of it is particularly inspiring; who wants to suspect a heart defect on top of an embuggerance like sexual headaches? But we're naked scientists, right? Unwilling, maybe, but we've got to go where our research, experiences, or hunches, take us. I have a neurologist appointment 14 Feb; I'll report back.
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http://www.pfodoctor.org/pages/5/index.htm :
'How could a PFO trigger migraine? It is thought that certain vasoactive substances in the body (those that are active on blood vessels) that are normally taken up by the lungs, could pass unfiltered via a PFO to the blood destined for the brain, triggering a migraine in susceptible individuals. By closing the PFO, it is though that these vasoactive substances are prevented from reaching the blood vessels in the head, removing a major migraine trigger.'
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I suffer from ThunderClaps and I also have a moderate sized PFO that my doctor wont close despite my already suffering from hemiplegic migraines which appear identical to Transient Ischemic attacks as well as regular cluster headaches following a neck injury following a gang attack back when I was a teen but I had never been to the doctor about it.
I know from my GP that I have an increased risk of stroke anyway but the specialist refused to operate as he said the op also carries a risk of stroke despite the crossover transfer of a large quantity of air bubbles during a cardio echogram like oneyedguy mentions.
The Thunderclaps are painful and the pain is a bit like a severe electric shock to the head followed by a dull painful ache.
It comes out of nowhere at the exact second of ejaculation.
I do hold my breath at this time also which is a habit I guess.
I'm just throwing these into the mix really.
For me it's
PFO Hole in Heart
Right Bundle Branch Block
Neck Injury (Thecal Compression of spine)
History Of Migraine
Daily cluster headaches
and last but not falling apart least fibromyalgia
Other than that I feel errr ok :D
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I would have to say I had a "Thunderclap" headache during climax. Actually 3 times now. I am a female age 46 and I was freaked out enough that I went to the ER. After a Cat scan that was negative, I was sent home with migraine meds. I was using a vibrator for the first time and the headache was immediately after climax and the most severe headache I had ever had. It made me grab my head in agony. It settled down to just a bad headache probably 30 seconds after it started. After the first Thunderclap it, it took 3 days for it to completely resolve. The second time it happened, it was also immediate and intense but not as bad as the first time. The third time, the pain was somewhere in between the first and second times.
This forum had been very educational. I am in the medical field and would also advise everyone to go get it checked out. The first time it happens, you could easily think it was triggered by climax but there are plenty of worse things it could be. Now that I have had a cat scan, I am assuming that it is a benign condition.
I too am overweight and have back issues like some of the others. I do not have hypertension and do not have a history of migraines. I do however have some sinus issues and unexplained headaches x about 35 years.
Hope this helps
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So, as just about everyone in here, I have begun to suffer from incredibly painful headaches upon orgasming. I'm a 19 year old male, 6'2" about 245lbs. A bit overweight but I'm in decently good shape and have been pretty active lately. My first time experiencing the headache of this magnitude was while I was doing jumping jacks while working out. The next day, I was with my girlfriend and when I orgasmed, I felt immense pain in my left temple just above my eye and then again today, I had the same issue. I have a family history of high blood-pressure and I'm fairly certain I contracted lyme disease this past fall but I'll be heading to the doctor's hopefully tomorrow to get a blood test for it. I was rather scared by this recent medical onset and am kind of relieved to find out that it's so common but less relieved to find out that there seems to be no solid cure or treatment for it. At 19 years old, I hope to have quite a bit more sexual activity in my life and with these massive headaches that are seemingly overwhelming and nearly untreatable, I don't know how enjoyable it's going to prove to be. Hopefully I can get it worked out and just get on with my life, it has never happened to me previously and I really don't like the idea of it becoming a long-term condition. I don't really have many sinus problems as some people mentioned though lately I have been kind of ill with a very low appetite and a poor sleep schedule. Wish me luck. You all have my best wishes.
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I think these headaches will eventually go away or become less in intensity. In my experience, a lot of my medical issues resolve themselves over time.
Hang in there!
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When I was 16, I had a ministroke after orgasm. I could not talk for about 4 hours, everything that came out of my mouth was mumble, and my right arm was numb. I went to the hospital & had many tests run, and it was confirmed I did have a ministroke on the left side of my brain.. doctors could not find a blood clot &I never told them it happened after orgasm because I was too embarrassed. I am 18 now and I am fine, no high blood pressure, no more strokes, but I am overweight. Does anyone know what could have caused this? I live in fear everyday it will happen again and I'm just looking for answers! It will be greatly appricated. Thanks!
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If you are on birth control, that could have caused a stroke. However, I would think the doctor's would of figured that one out.
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I'm a 42yr old female. I just experienced this for the first time! I was, ahem, having phone sex, and I had my phone resting on my cheek (I needed both my hands :I), I had my head turned to the side, and when I came, this unbelievably painful, sharp stabbing pain hit me on one side of my head, it was throbbing and unrelenting. It's still with me now an hour later, hopefully the painkillers I've taken will kick in soon. I haven't read all the items in this thread yet, just the first page, but will keep reading to find an answer. I'm thinking it's neck joint related?
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I'm 38 yrs old and last year I had my first encounter with these types of headaches. During the beginning of an orgasm I would get what felt like an ice pick being stabbed into my temple. I would immediately lose the orgasm and have to grab my head because I felt like my head would literally explode. The first one lasted for 3 days and no amount of pain meds even brought the pain down. I went to the doctor, concerned as anyone would be and we did blood work as well as a CAT scan. Everything came back negative. He prescribed me something for migraines and told me to take it an hour or two before any sexual activity. I did just that and still had them. I went back to him and he prescribed something else, that still didn't work.
My husband and I tried to work on it ourselves, where I relaxed and the first sign of it I was to stop him and calm back down. If I kept a clear head then I was able to go through an orgasm with minimal pain. After about a month they went away. And I was a happy woman.
Sadly last week they started coming back again. But this time they hit and it hurts but in about 5 minutes the pain goes away with no medication. I think in the long run relaxation does help. Clear your mind, don't 'reach' for the orgasm, just let it happen. Hopefully that will help some of you. I'm going to start working on those same exercises again to see if it helps this time.
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I thank you all for your posts I'm glad I'm not alone. Here is my story so far I hope you may be able to advise me what to do next.
I am a 41 year old male, a bit overweight and often anxious or stressed. I suffered my first thunderclap headache a week ago. It came on at orgasm within 2 seconds I was holding my head and I could not open my eyes. I panicked and went to A&E. They gave me a ct scan which came back clear, blood test came back clear, blood pressure, temperature, pulse and oxygen levels were all ok too. The hospital in Surrey Uk which I attended tried 3 times to give me a lumber puncture, but we're not successful. I went home still in pain but by the next day I went back as I was still in great agony. I agreeded to another lumber puncture test which was successful and the results came back clear on this also.
Now having been discharged from the hospital I have I think the side affects of the lumber puncture, a headache that only goes away when I lay down, pins and needles randomly anywhere on my body ( I think this could be nerves ), The pain in my head is behind eyes, bottom back of head and in the kneck.
I am scared to now have sex again and I like most enjoy sex.
I have been carrying lage weights on my arms in my job and have had pain in my chest, under shoulder blade but mainly in my neck for some time. I wonder if this has played its part.
Anyone who can relate to this or offer any advise I would be most grateful, I would not wish this on my worst enemy. Thanks for reading.
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In my experience, the pain was less and less each time. Now I don't have them at all. Hopefully, that will be the case for you too.
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I am a 22 year old female. I was having sex yesterday and I had an orgasm twice. The first time right before I climaxed I felt a huge pain in the back lower left portion of my skull, the headache lessened and I continued to have sex. I climaxed a second time and the pain from the headache didn't lessen or become worse (maybe I was more relaxed). I took some pain killers a few hours later and forgot about what happened. A few hours after that I began having stomach pains, like I was bloated which then turned into cramps like I was going to get my period. Once I got home I decided to masturbate to lessen the cramps, once I was about the climax the same exact pain in the exact spot happened.
Some others have mentioned issues about neck injuries and I am wondering if maybe this could be the root of the problem. A week and a half ago I was practicing a headstand in my yoga class and immediately felt like something was wrong in my neck. My neck was sore and stiff for a day or two then the pain went away. I did another headstand more recently and my neck felt stiff the next day. This is the only thing that is making sense to me since both incidents have happened very recently.
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I am a 50 year old male and just got out of hospital after 24 hours because of this,all they could do was monitor me and a scan plus medication,this is the 2nd time first about 4 years ago,dont know if it will happen again but its scary.
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I am a 51 year old female, and I had the most frightening pain in my head two nights ago, which began very suddenly and severely, at the base of my head and spread throughout my head and settling in my temples, right before orgasm. We stopped of course and I cried for a little while due to the pain which mostly subsided to a tolerable level fairly soon, and then I went onto the internet to search for what happened. I called my ob/gyn the following day, since I'm 5-6 weeks postop from a partial hysterectomy, and this was my first time resuming intercourse with my husband, was told since it was my first time experiencing this pain, it was probably not anything like a stroke, etc. but to try drinking more water beforehand (something to do with vasoconstriction and dialation.) She said if it occurred again, to see my regular doctor. She said it didn't have anything to do with my hormones (I am not yet menopausal and still have hormones - and I still have an ovary and a small part of my uterus.) After reading all the posts - I mean ALL the posts on this particular posting, tried a few things mentioned by other members on this forum, that I thought might be an issue for me. I decided to try a few things. we tried it again last night. I realized I had been experiencing a very sore and stiff neck this week after straining myself around the house. So my husband massaged my neck for me. I also realized that maybe I was getting too tense during lovemaking with the build up, and made a conscious effort to stay more relaxed and paid attention to keeping my muscles more relaxed. I worked on my breathing, making sure to breathe deep and regular. I also made sure my head and neck were in a comfortable and supported position. A few times when I began feeling my head become more achy or tense (a residue of a tight and achy feeling was left from the episode the night before) I massaged that place on my head. We were successful and I didn't have another one of these horrible headaches! I also plan to see my osteopath which does back adjustments and see if he can check my vertebrae - I'm sure I put my neck out this week. I was very happy. There were many helpful posts that helped me come up with the ideas to try these things. Good luck everyone.
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Hello,
The first time this happened to me I got up and staggered out of the room holding my thunderclapping head in my hands. My girlfriend thought I was having a stroke and was going to call 911. The headache went away fairly quickly though and I did not associate it with sex right then. It did not take too long to associate it with orgasm though. I avoided having sex, then started to lookup home remedies. My last home remedy was to snort the capsacicin nasal spray.. quite an eye opener!!. That really did not work either, but I had hoped. I read through this discussion board several times looking for people to come up for an answer. The one thing I did notice is that there were a lot of people who talked about the issue and then I never saw another post from them. This will probably (hopefully) be the case with me. It took a while but the thunderclaps and sometimes the 2 day headaches finally ended. I found that if I abstained from sex for over a week that the pain was less intense, so thats what I started doing, and just dealt with it. For me the thunderclaps finally stopped. I took about 3 months, but now I'm about 3 months without it. It was so odd and painful. Why did it ever happen? After it stopped, I kept bracing for it to happen everytime I had sex, then one time I just forgot that it was suppose to happen and that anxiety was gone. So my message to so many that find this site, is that for me at least, it did just go away. I feel very bad for anyone who has to go through it. My best advise is to just abstain the best you can and hope it passes for you as well. I read good things about capsaicin and had a capsaicin drink twice a day for about a month, but after the thunderclapping stopped I soon stopped the drinking it.
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I am glad I found this site! I'm a 31 yr old man and I experienced this headache about three weeks ago. I was having sex with my girlfriend and It got pretty intense! Right before I came I started feeling warm, i started to feel this strain in my head as if my head was going to burst and right before coming, I experieced a headache like non other. It was the worst headache I have ever had. I really thought I had just had an aneurysm. Even taking an advil, that headache didn't go away for about a day. From then on, every time I'm about to orgasm I feel that headache coming on. It's not as bad as the first, but it is still very painful. Now i have this pulsating pain in my head that off and on through out the day. Taking medicine relieves it, but it continues to come back. Will this ever go away!? My blood pressure has been pretty high since this started. could that be a factor?
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24/M here experienced this for the first time 5 days ago. In my past I have had very slight headaches associated with sexual activity but nothing like the pain brought on by these orgasm headaches, in fact I believe they were do more to physical excretion rather than vessels dilating as with the orgasm headache. so I will try to remember all the events leading up to today:
5 days ago I had an encounter with law enforcement where I was handcuffed while on the ground , the arresting officer had his knee on the back of my neck towards the upper part of my spine, of course this was uncomfortable but it gave no hint towards the possibility of this orgasm headache. so a few days later im at home with my girlfriend and we are messing around and as we are engaging in intercourse (roughly about 5 min in or so) I start to feel a throbbing pain in my head, I try to disregard which works for say maybe 10 seconds or so while it builds up and then at that point it feels like something blew up inside my head causing the worst pain I have ever felt (next to a kidney stone). This pain brought me to my knees and was so strong my stomach wanted to make me vomit and my abdominal muscles were contracting as if to suggest I was going to vomit. After about 1 min of this it never faded or went away and at that point I and my girlfriend are worried this may be something the hospital would need to look at, but not having insurance I go and take 2 excedrin which after 20 minutes or so kicks in all the while still having the throbbing headache. it starts to dissipate and I cannot sleep for another hour or so do to the pain which seems to beat with my heart and bloodflow. To be honest at this point in time I feel helpless and afraid, why is this happening to me? I cant afford to have a MRI (in the states any imaging serves will run you about 10k where you might get a discount but who can afford a 5,000 scan that as many have said yielded no results?). I would like to mention I may have not been breathing properly and am guilty of intentionality building pressure to increase orgasm and this has never been a problem for me but I understand that I can no longer do that.
The next day im googling around and read everything in this thread and although comforting it seems as with all human medical issues everyone is effected differently and the causes seem to be different for everyone, but is there not a study somewhere where someone is sexually aroused while taking an MRI or scan? I believe this would indicate the problem and it seems everyone who experiences this problem goes to the doc who gives them pain meds (likely clouding the results of the scan) and find nothing. frustrating. so back to my experience, i explain to the girlfriend what I have learned about these headaches and suggest we wait a couple days and try again. so a couple of days later before leaving the house of an appointment I ask the girlfriend for a quick handjob to see if it might have something to do with over exerting myself or the breathing not being consistent. so this time im laying on my back breathing properly and it seems to be going good I have about 5 min of pleasure and as the orgasm gets close I dont feel anything until I came at which point it was again a horrendous headache that left me unable to enjoy my orgasm, and ontop of that i had to leave for a business meeting. so the breathing helps but doesn't stop, physical activity has nothing to do with it ( I ride a bike every day for transportation , I have a car but enjoy the exercise). at this point im worried will this ever go away? will my relationship last though this? am i going to die because of some brain function relating to orgasm? this sounds far fetched but another user here claims his spouse died from this condition and although im sceptical after feeling this pain and trying to plow through it I felt as though a vessel had exploded in my head and the pain I felt was like the vessel was a water hose turned on full blast and the hose was whipping around in my skull shooting pain all over my head.
the next day we go on a 20 mile bike ride and end up messing around when we get home later in the night , I say i will go until I feel the pain building up so after about 10-15 min I start to feel it building up and have to stop. talk about unsatisfying for the both of us.
The fallowing morning I decide I will have to try to experiment and try masturbating to see what works and what doesn't. after about 3 or 4 min of masturbating i start to feel it build up and stop. I didn't eat breakfast and took 2 excedrin and waited about 30-40 min and tried again, this time breathing deeply and having the excedrin to help. While masturbating i started to feel the pain but it was very dull and i was breathing deeply so the 02 levels were likely high. My hands and arms started to shake which i attribute to the 02 being high and my body telling me it was in pain but I couldn't feel it as much. I finished and it felt like a fraction of pain I usually feel and lasted about 1 min or so before going back to normal.
update: After drinking 2 beers we messed around and I took it very slow and got to the point to where it would start to build up and then backed off for awhile, i did this about 3 or 4 times before finally giving in at which point i felt no orgasm pain. everything seemed to be fine until about 4:30 AM when i woke up with a throbbing headache. possible the beer prolonged this event?
A little about me:
Im athletic
very balanced diet
have been working in the medial field so have some knowledge about how the body works
history:
about a year ago I was working out really hard and caused a headache, not comparable to the orgasm headaches
throughout my younger life I would feel a stabbing feeling in my brain for about 1 to 4 seconds, this would occur about once every 6 mo and was never sever enough to see a doc about.
I have stopped smoking weed, however this has no withdraw symptoms. (not by choice)
I haven't been drinking as much because ive been taking meds every time I get these and dont want to kill my liver (this could have something to do with the withdraws but doubtful)
my blood pressure is normal but in the higher normal.
I have tried:
breathing; helps but doesn't stop it
not exerting myself; helps with the building up pain , but causes the sudden orgasm pain
masturbating; which leads to the building up pain, unless I take meds
hopefully this helps someone as I have read through trying to find help for myself.
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PLEASE READ I'M GETTING SCARED !!!!
I am a 18 yr old female.
I've recently been experiencing horrible pains in my temples right before I orgasm.
It has happened 3 times now, the first time it hit really hard but went away in about 15 seconds. The second time it was a bit stronger and lasted longer. But this third time, was the worst ! Oh and the first 2 times it was only in my left temple. Anyway, this last time stated in both temples and worked itself around the front of my forehead and down the sides of my head around the back of my neck. The pain was unbearable ! I've lived with migraines about 2 or 3 times a week since I was 10, so I'm usually pretty use to any head pain, but this was the worst pain I've ever experienced !!!
The lasted almost an hour.
I've been reading some of these post, and I'm really starting to get scared.
I will add that it doesn't happen when my husband and I have sex, only when we use both of my vibrators. (one in and one out) But it doesn't seem to happen when I use one by myself.
I do have 2 injured disc in my back and scoliosis if that helps anyone with anything. The only time the doctors have found high blood pressure is when I have a bad migraine.
I don't know what else to say, if any questions PLEASE ASK !
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It was my Occiput…..
So I had all the same symptoms and thought I was about to die the first time the headache rushed over me. My wife and I tried different “ ways” and every time that rushing headache would return, it did not matter if I just laid there still I would get that headache.
So this is quick test to see if it’s your Occiput that is causing the problem. Sit down back straight with your left hand take your pulse on your right wrist. Do you feel your pulse? Now hold your breath and lean your head back then to the right (Far back Right). Did you pulse disappear? Did it drop off? Now do the same with your left hand pulse and lean your head to the back left. Did your pulse disappear? If you did lose your pulse then it’s your Occiput and that’s a very easy fix. I went to a “Quality” did I say Quality Chiropractor who knows the whole body and was trained in how to adjust the Occiput. Not some new age whack job but a Chiropractor that cracks you. The Occiput is the bone that connects the spine to your head and your arteries go in to the Occiput then in to the brain. When the Occiput is tilted you lose blood flow to your head and BAM you get a massive headache when the tissue starts to swell in your upper neck during sex. I went the chiropractor 5 times every other day and he fixed my headaches. I felt a difference after the 3 visit and by the 5th it was completely fixed.
Hope this helps
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... I went the chiropractor 5 times every other day ...
Did chiropractor have to visit another chiropractor to correct the curvature in their spine caused by sitting on the very thick wallet in the back pocket of their trousers ?
http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=40792.msg366016#msg366016
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Has anyone ever experienced a "thunderclap" headache right at the time of orgasm? afterwards as well.
It's called a f****** headache.
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Has anyone heard of this being associated with an energetic problem. Orgasm is a massive release of energy and if the energy center at the top of the head is blocked then it cannot pass. The fact that the headache occurs precisely at the time of orgasm makes me think this could be the cause. I have experienced this twice and it was excruciatingly painful, lasting for a day or two.
I was wondering if anyone with energy work experience had some input on the subject.
On a side note....FuzzyUK bumped this thread right about the time this just happened to me lol.
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I recently experienced this kind of headache. I'm 48M, with no history of headaches. The first time it occurred just at the moment of orgasm. I thought I was having an aneurism or a stroke or both, it was so severe. A deep, throbbing pain through my entire head, not localized to left/right or front/rear. The headache didn't build up from low to medium to strong, it was just suddenly there 100%. And then for about 36 hours I had symptoms similar to a hangover -- dull, persistent headache that worsened if I moved around, occasional nausea.
The next time it occurred a few moments, perhaps 90 seconds before I would have reached orgasm. Same thing -- no warning, no buildup of pain, just suddenly an overwhelming throbbing headache through my entire head. And then two days of hangover-like symptoms, much worse during the first 24 hours but still bad up to 48 hours.
I have borderline high blood pressure -- my numbers are right at the upper edge of "normal" blood pressure. No previous headache issues of any kind. I haven't seen a doctor yet, I have an appointment next week so I'll see what he says.
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Hi
Glad I found this site. It's reassuring to see so many other people have experienced this. I recently mentioned it in passing to my Doctor and next thing I know I've got an appointment for a scan soon (which is bloody scary). Anyone else on here had a CT scan for this? Looking through other posts it seems more of a precaution than anything. All my symptoms are like everyone's been saying, starts at the back of the head just before orgasm and bursts through the sides. Gone when I wake up in the morning.
Gee
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I have only just started getting these. OMG, the worst head pain ever. I have epilepsy and am worried something like this will trigger a seizure. I've read on a few replies here about breathing methods, not tilting your head back ( very hard NOT to do during orgasm ). I will have a break for a few days 😡 and see how I go. It was excruciating and I don't want to EVER feel it again.
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A while back I got what you guys refer to as a thunder cap headache or migraine .
I am worried as I am only 16!! Year old male . It happen just as I was reaching the climax, and bam the pounding and throbbing made me stop strait away and turned me of . I was really disey and was sensitive to the light. The pain lessened a little bit but lasted about 2 to 3 days .i haven't told my parents as you probly know because I am inbarised , so that's why I came and ask for you guys help??
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Over the last couple of days I have begun to experience these really bad headaches when I reach an orgasm. The first was yesterday when my partner was using a vibrator on me. I started to feel tense on my shoulders first, gradually moving up to my neck and then the most painful headache I have ever experienced, so intense and it came on so quickly that I thought it was something far more serious. After taking painkillers, it lasted about 2-3 hours. I have recently been poorly with a cough/cold virus that is going around and am not yet fully recovered, so thought it may be something to do with the fact that my head has been feeling blocked up for a while. I was hoping it was going to be a one off so have gone back this afternoon without my partner and used my vibrator and sadly the same thing happened again. Has anyone found out why it just suddenly starts like this? Would appreciate any advice please
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I have been experiencing this type of headache for the past three days, and I am really glad I ran across this thread via Google. Like some of you I was diagnosed with an ear/throat infection earlier this week and I am currently on antibiotics. I wonder if that doesn't have something to do with it. I am maybe 30lbs overweight but have been working out regularly for the past month, blood pressure is great, 33 year old female. I have two very young children at home so I must say these headaches have frightened me horribly. I am married with only one partner, my husband, and I haven't told him about the headaches yet. We don't have insurance and there is absolutely no money for a doctor. I really hope that as the infection clears the headaches do too!
Again, thank-you to ALL who have posted here over the years as it does give me comfort to know that this is not that uncommon.
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Has anyone heard from Oneeyedguy since last January? I see that his email address is not listed in his profile, and am very interested to hear of his progress, theoretical or otherwise.
I thank those who have shared their stories, and I intend to share mine shortly. Special thanks to the aforementioned gentleman; please return.
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Hi All, thanks for your posts, I'm glad I ran across this. I'm a 41 yo male and this happened to me for the first time three days ago and its happened everyday since. I freaked out thinking I was having a stroke or aneurysm too. What a relief to hear so many stories. Will still get checked out but at least I'm not running to the nearest ER now at 330am. What a weird thing, I was with someone the other day and bang, the second I climaxed it was the worst headache I ever had. Like someone previously said, 0 to 100 from one second to the next. It starts at the neck on the left side and shoots right to the left temple only. Today I could feel a vein pounding on the left side of my forehead with my finger. Better now but it's still intense. Tried breathing as soon as it happened this time and it seems to have helped a bit. No comorbid infections that I know of. This sucks if its going to be the new normal. Thanks again for the stories. Be well.
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I too was struck with this last week. Happened twice. After that I would stop as soon as I felt it starting to happen. After stopping and starting a couple times I was able to have an orgasm without pain but not like the old ones I was used to do to fear. I went to my Chiropractor and had him do my normal adjustments and then asked if he knew how to do a occipital adjust and he said and did it. I waited a couple days and had him do it again and then went and got a massage. I've now had the best 2 days of sex I've had in a long time. When I had my orgasm this morning I just laid down on top of wife and started laughing it was so nice. Also wanted to know if I could masterbate pain free and just got done with a nice alone time session pain free. I'm going to keep up with the adjustments once a week and a once a week massage since I enjoy them both. I did go to my doctor before the chiropractor and he thought it was just a pinched nerve but said he would order an MRI if I wanted one and I said yes. But I got obamacared by my insurance company who says their reviewing this to see if they'll cover it so that's when I went to the chiropractor. Now I don't think I'll get the MRI anyway. Hope this helps someone.
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Hey just thought I'd share my two cents on here. I'm a seventeen male, and about a week ago, maybe a tad more, I experienced this horrible horrible head pain that built up as I neared orgasm and then just exploded well when I exploded lol. Anyway, the initial pain evaporated into a steady throb that lasted a couple of days, while I iniitially didn't associate the pain and orgasm, thinking it was just a coincidence. Evidently a few days later I go at it again and wouldn't you know, I'm dying at orgasm. So I do my due diligence and search the web for others suffering from the same problem and I found this site among others. I tried some of the above techniques posted over a few days, abstaining from any sex or masturbation while hoping this would cure the problem. Something that I did find and I'd like to mention before I post what seems to have cured me is that I could work through the pain if I started and stopped, and there wouldn't be such a large explosion of pain, but that wasn't going to cut it. Now, on to the cure. I ran across an article last night about someone associating the pain we've all been experiencing with dehydration. Now for me I'm not always diligent about getting water, and for circumstances I won't go into I wasn't doing the greatest of jobs of staying hydrated leading up to my first experience with this head trauma. Needless to say I tried drinking the recommended amount of daily water (16floz minimum, 32 if you can manage), both last night and this morning, and later today I tried masturbating again and wouldn't you know it, no head pain! Anyway I haven't tried it again but if you are like me and haven't been doing as well in drinking water everyday try giving it a shot and seeing if that fixes the problem for you like it seems to have fixed it for me. Of course it could've been the abstinence but it can't hurt to try. Good luck and I'll try to post an update after a few days pass to see if these headaches come back.
Edited for a little update:
Two more masturbation sessions completely headache free! I'm happy to report that water really seems to have done the trick. I've been keeping up with daily consumptions of 16 or more floz, and I've seen a complete disappearance in the incredibly painful "sex headaches". So take it from me if you're going through the same thing I have: try drinking some water!
Good luck all!
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Did you have chicken pox when you were a kid? Okay, did you get the resurgence of it, known as "shingles". In my case, twice? You get some zits or red blotches on your face, maybe red oozing sores on one side of your body? Morning headaches, every damn morning? You have Herpes Zoster, look it up.
Go to any Med Clinic and get a bottomless supply of Acyclovir tablets, 200mG to 800mG (12 cents each). Take about 1.5 grams of those every day for 3 weeks and then hump your brains out! Use a rubber of course.
You're welcome.
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The problem does seem to be associated with spinal disc compression. Hence drinking plenty of water may help - discs become dehydrated and compressed during the day, and additional muscular tension during orgasm can promote a painful neural feedback if a disc is pressing on a nerve root. The balance system that keeps us walking upright depends on some subtle connexions between the sacrum and occiput, so autonomic contraction of pelvic muscles may well promote a tension headache if a cervical disc is misaligned or dehydrated..
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Hey all,
I'm a 50 yr old woman - just wanted to share my experience with these. The first time it happened was so effing scary - I rarely get headaches so I thought I was having an aneurysm !! Just to be on safe side, I shared experience with my doc's office and he had me come up that afternoon for a CT scan to rule out anything serious. It was a tad embarrassing standing there with the male tech going over my paperwork. I look down under diagnosis and it says "orgasmic headache" - the guy just kinda smirked at me. Good news was the CT scan was clear and it was one of these thunderclap headaches. They are very sudden, throb all over and hurt!! For me, the worst of it subsides within 30 seconds or so but sometimes a slight headache lingers. The few that I had were a few years ago (doctor told me to take a couple of Advil before sex - it seemed to help). I eventually stopped the Advil and they never occurred again - until today! I am just grateful to know it's nothing worrisome. As someone had said before, I think breathing might have something to do with it! Who knows. My best friend said right away how lucky I was to be having mind-blowing sex with my husband after so many years . haha. Try the Advil - it helped me :) :)
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I am a 51 year old female, and I had the most frightening pain in my head two nights ago, which began very suddenly and severely, at the base of my head and spread throughout my head and settling in my temples, right before orgasm. We stopped of course and I cried for a little while due to the pain which mostly subsided to a tolerable level fairly soon, and then I went onto the internet to search for what happened. I called my ob/gyn the following day, since I'm 5-6 weeks postop from a partial hysterectomy, and this was my first time resuming intercourse with my husband...
I should visit this forum more often, but it's a double-edged sword, as well as getting hope and new ideas you're also concentrating on what is a painful problem, both physically and psychologically. Mimosa, your post from last year suddenly struck me - '5-6 weeks post-op'. Something tells me your procedure was keyhole surgery, am I right?
I'm convinced there's a link between keyhole surgery, where they pump CO2 into you, literally to make space so they can see what they're doing, and the heart problem I was banging on about in my latest posts. The CO2 technique is called pneumoperitoneum. It increases pressure both in your abdomen and your chest cavity.
Brief recap: Over 1 in 4 of us have a PFO = Patent Foramen Ovale. The FO is the hole in your heart between left and right atria that, when you were in the womb, allowed oxygenated blood from your mother to travel via the umbilical cord, up your main vein to the right side of your heart and then cross over to the left side, which is the side that pumps it round the body. This is necessary in unborn babies because your lungs aren't working yet, the pressure in those blood vessels is too high so blood can't flow round them & wouldn't pick up any oxygen anyway! When you're born, lungs start working, pressure decreases, blood starts flowing from right heart around lungs, picks up oxygen, back to left heart. Pressure is now higher on left side, this makes the FO close up and, in 3/4 of people, by your 1st birthday it's permanently closed. In the other 1/4, the FO is 'patent' - i.e. it's still openable, like a cat-flap, if enough pressure is put on it. Normally, left-side pressure is greater than right-side, so the cat-flap stays shut. But if anything happens to alter the pressures...
Now, my guess is that there's not a sharp division between the 1/4 with a PFO and the 3/4 without. The process of closure is going to be complete in some people, absent in others, and somewhere in between for some guys. The closure process has happened, but it's weaker than it should be. Now read these quotes from medical websites:
Here's what one paper http://m.ceaccp.oxfordjournals.org/content/11/5/177.full (http://m.ceaccp.oxfordjournals.org/content/11/5/177.full) says about the use of laparoscopic surgical techniques - 'keyhole surgery' - which include pneumoperitoneum:
'Generally accepted contraindications include ... patients with known right-to-left cardiac shunts or patent foramen ovale.'
Here's another:
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hBb_MOHScVEC&pg=PA144&lpg=PA144&dq=PFO+pneumoperitoneum&source=bl&ots=AqWsQ1opB1&sig=SAxTWJMg4s4OOKyB-edWZeLoKrk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=W5F3Uu-_FILB0QWhtoDoAg&ved=0CDoQ6AEwBA (http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=hBb_MOHScVEC&pg=PA144&lpg=PA144&dq=PFO+pneumoperitoneum&source=bl&ots=AqWsQ1opB1&sig=SAxTWJMg4s4OOKyB-edWZeLoKrk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=W5F3Uu-_FILB0QWhtoDoAg&ved=0CDoQ6AEwBA)
'As a result of the pneumoperitoneum during laparoscopic procedures central venous pressure exceeds pulmonary wedge pressure, leading to temporary reversal of intracardiac pressure gradients between the atria. In consequence, the risk of intraoperative cardiac right-to-left shunting with consecutive systemic embolisation is increased, because a PFO, although normally closed, may open during this reversal of pressure gradients.'
OK, pulmonary wedge pressure = a way of measuring the pressure in the left atrium, which is the chamber of your heart that receives oxygenated blood from the lungs. And the 'embolisation' they're talking about is one way for blood clots in your veins to get into your arteries and travel to your brain or other organs; this paper was primarily about strokes. Basically, what this adds up to is, pressure in right side of heart exceeds pressure on left side, for as long as they're inflating your abdomen with CO2: several hours depending on the operation. This is common knowledge to anaesthetists, which is why they don't recommend keyhole surgery for people with known heart defects like PFOs.
So it seems pretty plausible to me that one way for orgasm headaches to suddenly start happening in the middle of your life is this:
* You have, unknown to you or anyone else, a borderline PFO
* You have a keyhole operation, they blow you up with CO2 for several hours and the pressures in your heart are reversed
* This opens up the PFO, you're now not borderline, your FO is definitely P, as it were.
* Next time you do anything that reverses the pressures (known medically as a Valsalva manoeuvre) - heavy coughing, sneezing, vomiting, straining during defecation, having an orgasm - the PFO opens readily, whereas before the operation it was a bit stronger and stayed closed.
* The crossover of venous blood directly into the arterial system, bypassing the filter of the lungs, causes severe headache, possibly because of high concentrations of hormones - e,g, norepinephrine - present during the build-up to orgasm.
Of course, the trigger for the weakening of the FO might not be keyhole surgery, it might be exercise - which might explain why there's a mixture of relatively fit, young people on this forum, along with relatively unfit, middle-aged folk like myself. Or constipation, or coughing, or anything that reverses the pressures enough, for long enough.
Since my last post I've had mixed fortunes - several periods of remission followed by 'back to square one', all unrelated to anything I can identify, it's depressingly random but the remissions are good, I try to take full advantage of them, even if orgasms themselves are a risk for re-occurrence! I'm pretty convinced that the sequence I've described above is what happened to me. I've no idea if a PFO is capable of healing in an adult, if I refrain from anything that could 'open the cat-flap' for long enough. More research needed, and a friendly doctor. Maybe we need to set up a proper self-help group, or a campaign for research? I've no idea how to do that.
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Wow.. gotta love google. I am completely intrigued by this (and oddly enough, thankful I'm not the only one experiencing this.)
About 2 months ago, I took it upon myself to enjoy the new showerhead we just installed and I think it was a record orgasm .. maybe a minute/minute and a half before the intensity grew .. the headache in my temples blew me away.. I thought it might have been because of the sudden intensity/speed of reaction/etc. This particular headache lasted about 2 days.. dull, not as sharp around the temples and by the eyes, but still there. After a few days, I thought I'd try it again (geez...why??) and same reaction.. after having that orgasm and feeling like my brain was going to explode or I was going to pass out from the pain, I decided I was done with the shower for awhile.. ;D
A few days after that, I was with hubby and as I was getting close to orgasm I could feel the dull headache feeling starting to come back but nothing over the top painful as what had happened in the shower, so I thought it just might just be the "quick to orgasm" intensity of the shower.. but no... after weeks of nothing but a dull pain here and there, I am now at the point where it has happened the last 4 times hubby and I have been together. Even taking headache medicine prior doesn't help. The sharp pain subsides hours after, but the dull headache remains for up to 3 days (that's the longest thus far)!!
This is becoming an annoying situation that is truly making me have second thoughts on having sex.. something I really, really enjoy and would do daily if I could.. how in the world do I get rid of this? Is this just something I'm going to have to live with? So sad. :-'(
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Hey just thought I'd share my two cents on here. I'm a seventeen male, and about a week ago, maybe a tad more, I experienced this horrible horrible head pain that built up as I neared orgasm and then just exploded well when I exploded lol. Anyway, the initial pain evaporated into a steady throb that lasted a couple of days, while I iniitially didn't associate the pain and orgasm, thinking it was just a coincidence. Evidently a few days later I go at it again and wouldn't you know, I'm dying at orgasm. So I do my due diligence and search the web for others suffering from the same problem and I found this site among others. I tried some of the above techniques posted over a few days, abstaining from any sex or masturbation while hoping this would cure the problem. Something that I did find and I'd like to mention before I post what seems to have cured me is that I could work through the pain if I started and stopped, and there wouldn't be such a large explosion of pain, but that wasn't going to cut it. Now, on to the cure. I ran across an article last night about someone associating the pain we've all been experiencing with dehydration. Now for me I'm not always diligent about getting water, and for circumstances I won't go into I wasn't doing the greatest of jobs of staying hydrated leading up to my first experience with this head trauma. Needless to say I tried drinking the recommended amount of daily water (16floz minimum, 32 if you can manage), both last night and this morning, and later today I tried masturbating again and wouldn't you know it, no head pain! Anyway I haven't tried it again but if you are like me and haven't been doing as well in drinking water everyday try giving it a shot and seeing if that fixes the problem for you like it seems to have fixed it for me. Of course it could've been the abstinence but it can't hurt to try. Good luck and I'll try to post an update after a few days pass to see if these headaches come back.
Edited for a little update:
Two more masturbation sessions completely headache free! I'm happy to report that water really seems to have done the trick. I've been keeping up with daily consumptions of 16 or more floz, and I've seen a complete disappearance in the incredibly painful "sex headaches". So take it from me if you're going through the same thing I have: try drinking some water!
Good luck all!
OMG! I am going to try this starting today *facepalm*.. why didn't I think of this?!?! Thank you SOOOO much! ♥
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Hi folks,
I'm so glad to have stumbled on this site whilst researching my headaches. They are definitely Thunderclap headaches and the pain only occurs before orgasm. I had never experienced this before (I'm a 37 year old guy). Since being officially single 9 months ago I've went to the gym less and less. I haven't put on excessive weight but I know my fitness levels must be embarrassing. Anyway, I'd given a lot of thought to what caused this. A couple of weeks ago I was with a girl and without being overtly graphic, she squeezed her legs unbelievably tightly against my head and later when I neared orgasm the most tremendous pain rushed up from the base of my skull, went round my head and like everyone else shocked me with its intensity. I could barely move for ages and it slowed to a dull throb but didn't leave.
Fast forward a few weeks and it happens pretty much any time I masturbate. I haven't been to the doctor yet but without misdiagnosing myself I'm pretty convinced my sexual encounter caused this. Coupled with the fact my job is spent sitting in front of a pc and I wouldn't be surprised if something is out of alignment with my neck/shoulders/head region.
I intend going to the chiropracter first. If he can diagnose anything I'll know my gut feeling was right and will follow any advice they give me. If not, then I'll go to the doctors.
Thanks for so many people writing about what can be an embarrassing topic to raise. It's comforting to know other people have faced this and overcame it, although its such a grey area I can see why it's hard to diagnose!
I'll post an update when after the chiropracter but needless to say, I'm going to do gentle exercise again, drink plenty of water and try to keep my breathing relaxed. I'm in Scotland so I'm off to avoid beer and head up a hill with my telescope to watch the aurora borealis.
Good luck to anyone else who is suffering too :)
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Oh and read comments by Kush on p5. His advice seems to resonate with what I think may work. I would also maybe add if I have a few beers then the pain isn't so bad so it could well be that at the moment towards orgasm the nerve is affected by something being out of synch.
Cheers
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Hey all, 23/m here, I had my first terrible "thunderclap" headache around a week and a half ago but unlike most people on here mine first happened while working out. I heard a pop and had excruciating pain right on the bottom right side of my skull, the pain only lasted a few minutes and then went away so I didn't think much of it. The next day during sex right before climax it happened again but this time much worse and it lasted a couple hours.
Now anytime I'm nearing climax or try and workout this happens, I'm just wondering if anyone else on here also gets these thunderclap headaches while working out as well?
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Man oh man the one good thing about this thread is I'm not alone. I'm a 44yr old male, married 25 yrs to the same wonderful lady. This past Monday we had the afternoon off together to spend some time alone. Well bam I had a thunderclap right at the time of orgasm. Whoa was that a scary experience. I've never had any headaches so I didn't know how to handle it. Oh my lord it was terrible. Once I semi recovered from it I jumped on the Internet to see how much time I had left. Damn this is scary. My headache resided some and with the help of ibuprofen I made it till today and broke down went to the ER. All that showed up on the cat scan was sinusitis. Oh we haven't tried sex again since I'm to scared. Doc give me some antibiotics and pain meds but now what. He did say if it happens again come in immediately don't wait. If there might have been a small bleeder they wasn't able to pick it up it had been to long. My blood pressure was not high. I'm going to take the antibiotics and man I hope thats what the problem is. Has any one been cured of this other than by time ? Thanks for reading and letting me know I'm not alone. I've not had any issues with other physical exertion and headaches yet.
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I use to have them, bloody awful until I found out I had High Blood pressure. I started meds and now completely disappeared never had one since. :) Get you BP checked guys and gals as this could be your cause.
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I also have them....
I'm a 24 M, the first time I experienced that I was 18. This lasted 2 weeks, and stopped.
Now I have a huge comeback, I can't do sex with my hand or with my GF, this is the worst pulsating headaches I never had of MY ENTIRE LIFE. This will do 2 weeks I have this now... Yesterday was my worst experience ever.
I tryed:
- 2x 500 mg paracetamol --> Did nothing
- 3x 200 mg ibuprophen --> Did nothing
Tonight I'll try
2x 250mg Naproxen.
If this doesn't work, I'll go see a doctor and ask him if he could prescribe me some Indometacin. This is a powerfull pain reliever.
The pain come gradually before I orgasm, no warning, in 10 seconds it go from no pain to intolerable pain, 9 on 10.
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2x 220mg naproxen worked to fix temporarly thoses tunderclap headaches.
Just take them with food 2 hours before you plan sex.
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Good day to you all,
Thank you for all the posts and information on this forum - it makes me a little easier to know I am not alone with this issue.
I am a 58 year old male with no major health issues.
The reason I am posting is that I have only experienced this at high altitude.
My wife and I live at sea level and once a year for two weeks we travel to ski fields in Colorado where the altitude is around 10,000 feet.
Last year was the first time I experienced this and I put it down to exertion.
This year it happened again and once again I thought of exertion as the cause, however this morning I was very slow and with no straining at all the same symptom occurred - at the moment of orgasm a blinding sharp headache that is quite debilitating.
I am thinking this is oxygen related for me and I will be abstaining for the rest of our stay. I will test my theory on our return home.
Thanks
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likely dehydration causing the muscles in your head to cramp after you clench them too hard, drink more water.
keep in mind your brain tissue has almost no pain sensing nerves, so unless you have meningitis or severe brain inflammation, your headaches are almost always externally/muscle based, neck strain can also radiate into the head(if you whiplash too hard during orgasm)
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Yes agree - that dehydration and exertion leading to muscle cramps could contribute, however the last time was slow and little effort was expended.
I live normally in a very warm and humid climate - so hydration is always carefully monitored.
I do understand your comments re the brain having no pain receptors and appreciate that the pain may be in the muscle tissue may be where the pain is centered - its just strange that for me the symptoms have only occurred at high altitude.
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Further to my post ... we have returned to sea level and we have enganged in sex twice with no headaches ... I would conclude that in my case altitude/lack of oxygen must be a contributing factor.
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this one WORKED: eat a few enzymes daily (or often) like KIMCHI, SHRIMP PASTE, SQUID, and the like. this will retain the needed tryptophan in the gut which are needed in high amount after ejaculation, to induce sleep. you'd know it's working when you always feel sleepy. try it. the effect is immediate. back of neck pain subsides effectively. don't eat too much in one serving, which might cause skin itching/allergies................ good luck!
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Hey all, I am new to this site... I came across this site doing a search about sexual headaches on Google. I have never had any migraines or horrific headaches until the last couple weeks of having sex. A couple weeks ago my gf and I were having sex and before "release" I get a wicked uncontrollable migraine/headache. Where it starts in my neck area and goes up all over my head, specifically frontal lobes. It lasts quite a while too. I got an MRI (brain scan) and MRA and everything came back clean as well as a CT scan... Blood work was normal too.. It's so irritating because i have tried intercourse and sex with my gf and regardless right before orgasm , BAM! Thunderclap headache.... Has anyone experienced this? If so, what do you do... I've been reading it goes away after a while... I had it once in like 2009. Thought nothing of it... Now years later, it's back... And I've read people can have them once and then years later it can strike again...lucky me, right? Said no one ever... I also have TMJ I believe, where , my jaw pops on the right side... I'm seeing s dentist tomorrow about it and a neurologist on Thursday... But maybe TMJ is putting pressure on my Head? The interesting thing is that the right side of my Jaw is where the jaw cracks, pops... But it's the left side that is giving me the starting issue during the sexual headache... It's the left side my head, and eye that throbs... It's been about a few weeks and my gf and I had sex a few times, each time having s migraine outta no where... She even "did her thing" while I lied there, and the thunderclap still came on.... I am 31/M and sorry if this is not in the right forum/thread... I figured "this can't be true" would be a good spot for it lol. Oh and I was just prescribed a medicine I took tonight, which helped prevent th thunderclap quite a bit... (Wanted to try with the med) still got the headache but it was subjected to only one area, left of my jaw under my ear... So it was nice it wasn't all over... The medicine is like, barbiturate with Tylenol and something else .. It's BAC which stood for something. I think it's similar to the medicine ketoric. (Misspelled) I've been hearing a lot about propranolol. So maybe that's next..
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hi.
Maybe this is caused by too much caffeine. Tryptophan coming from the gut cannot pass into the brain. so maybe eat kimchi, which is a food full of enzymes to make the gut healthy and retain the tryptophan needed to induce sleep.
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I had a thunderclap headache a few weeks ago. Just as many described here
it felt like vice grip around my skull and ended up at the bottom back of my skull, it started at orgasm and lasted a minute or so after. I went to the doctor a few days later and they did a CAT Scan and a exam, everything came backnormal. I haven't had a TC headache since, but I sometimes awake with a stiff neck and wonder if it was from that expereince.Ill also get a tiny headsche behind my nose and eyes (very slight headache. But I would get a stiff neck before the TC headache because of the pillows and the way I sleep. Now Im just paranoid-I think. I'm debating on whether I should have the spinal tap done, fearing maybe the CAT scan missed something.
Im glad I found this forum so I can compare experiences.
I also experience severe headache, particularly at the lower back side of the head and neck. It usually begins with sexual excitement and then it peaks at ejaculation. I had taken many drugs like beta-blockers and sometimes anti-migraine drugs. But I didn't find them that effective. It was the physiotherapy treatment that I had taken from Physiomed in Toronto put a stop to it. Do you experience the headache accompanied by vomiting, nausea or any other symptoms? Then it should be investigated.
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I just experienced this and it scared the bejesus out of me. im a 26 year old male. long story short, i was rubbing one out on my couch in a kind of awkward position. i passed out drunk on my couch the night before and woke up with a stiff neck. anyways, im laying on my back with my head positioned up, putting some pressure on the back of my neck, and the very second i blew my load, i felt an extreme pain shoot through the back of my neck and it went right to the back of my skull. it was one of the worst pains i had ever felt. on a scale of one to 10, it was a 10. luckily it only lasted for about 10 seconds, but it felt like my head was going to explode. i 100% thought that i had a vein just explode in my head, and i was thinking that i might possibly die for a few seconds. i freaked out, i was covered in sperm, and i didn't want to have my parents find me dead on the couch with my penis in my hands, and spunk all over my chest, so i quick ran to the bathroom with the panic of atleast trying to die in a non embarrassing way, ya know? it slowly went away after about 20 or 30 seconds, but it left me with a small headache. i took some advil, it went away, but when i was running on the tredmill today, my head started to hurt about 2 or 3 minutes in....So, does anyone know what i should do? should i rest for a few days? im concerned that i might have given myself some brain damage or something.
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I cannot BELIEVE this thread is still active 12 years later....
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Hi there, so glad to have found this forum. I first experienced an orgasmic headache about 10 years ago and put it down to dehydration. I had been drinking beer in the sun on holiday and had too much. I was ill for a few days with dehydration type symptoms. 10 years on and last week I had a headache during orgasm, next day nothing and then the next morning, whilst masturbating I experienced a thunderclap headache. Wow, like being banged in the head with an iron. Like everyone else I thought my head was going to explode and that I had had an aneurism. I went to casualty which was a bit of a waste of time but the next day saw a consultant. He happens to be Clinical Lead at one of the top hospitals in the UK. He said that this should pass within the next few weeks but wanted to do an MRI scan to rule out an aneurism. What was very interesting was that he said that my upper back was very tight and I needed to lose 10 kilos. I'm not overweight but I don't have a washboard stomach either. He is right though in that I normally do get very tight in my upper back shoulders and normally relieve this by getting massages at least once a month. I asked if I should abstain from sex for a few weeks and he said no, but I think he said that because he didn't want to create issues around sex for myself and my wife. He seemed very confidant that it would go away in a few weeks and would be unlikely to reoccur. I do have a big demanding job, but I have never felt that stressed by it. I am though re-evaluating my lifestyle but am really keen to know whether others have had stress in their shoulders, upper back and whether there is a correlation between that and a coital thunderclap. I see there are references to chiropractic resolutions on this forum. To all of you out there who have experienced it, wow!! We know it. Am determined though not to feel sorry for myself. It would be really good to see some feedback from people who have had it and who have seen it pass or stay: I suppose that most people who sawit pass may not revisit this forum again, so no doubt any responses may not be statistically indicative.
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Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences. Glad I'm not alone but would rather we'd all have gotten to skip over this part of our journeys.
I'm a male in my late 20s with high blood-pressure and from reading the posts it seems those are great ways to attract this thing. While they do run in the family, I do not have a big history with headaches. I do have arrhythmia, common with high BP, which I treat with Metoprolol Tartrate.
I really can't describe the pain, surprise and fear much better than previous posts... it was soo alien. I felt a slight twinge high in my back a couple of times as "the needle approached red" but shrugged them as muscle cramps. It began at orgasm and matched its intensity through to the end. It started at the back-right base of my neck, arced over the right of my crown before sort-of exploding just shy of my right temple. Nearly passed out. I could tell then it was not a muscle and, like many others here, the thought was immediately there, "I'm experiencing an aneurysm... this is my legacy..."
Sorry, not trying to make light of your or yours' pain but this was 5 days ago and the throbbing still seems like it's around 50-60% of the worst and it's troubling (especially considering that it seems to be a blood-vessel). Excedrin Extra Strength does dull it a bit. Even though the throbbing was still present, my partner and I had painless orgasms the day before last but had to cut this morning's attempt short.
Now that I'm reading this it actually seems kinda reckless to "engage in" before the pain had even subsided, but will visit my doctor nonetheless. Will post again if I've had any revelations or to report that I've experienced my final climax and will be asking for detailed descriptions of yours ;)
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OK, so it's been 10 days since I had a thunderclap and I am staying off sex for another 10 days. Looking at other posts there appears to be a very strong correlation between thunderclaps and (i) dehydration and (ii) tight and tense muscles in the neck and shoulders. I have had 2 one hour long massages and am due to have another one tomorrow. My neurologist (a top guy) says that marijuana is not a cause and does no harm (although it might cause other health issues etc). I have cut down alcohol (because of the calories) and am drinking lots of water. I had a migraine after the thunderclap, which reappeared a week later and was the day after I had a **** (orgasming without having any headaches): hence why I am staying clear of sex/wanking for another 10 days. My wife has been wonderful, which is always helpful. It would still be great to hear from people who previously posted years ago to discover whether it returned and what changes they made to their lifestyle if any.
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Thanks for the update, Adam, and I agree. Really seems like it could become chronic.
Also, should have mentioned that we were drinking heavy the first time (don't make choose between booze and sex!) and I've also had muscle tension for the past month just under where it started in my neck.
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Hey wiseax, I wasn't saying that it really seems it could become chronic, I was saying the opposite! That it should just go away shortly. That's what the top Neurologist told me and that's what other forums have advised. I'm not having sex or beating off for 3 weeks, so one week to go. I went to an osteopath who was great. Am having sessions with him, reducing booze to lose wait and drinking lots of water. I have poor posture which the osteopath is fixing. Also having massages.
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Adam, ok I see what you were saying now. I was just thinking that after having one we could be more easily prone to having more and it would be interesting if previous posters could confirm/deny this. He's no neurologist but my physician agreed this could be the case as long as bad habits like drinking, smoking and, at least in my case, anything that increases blood pressure aren't kept in check... I feel silly for not realizing this sooner. Guess I was just hoping I wouldn't have to change my lifestyle.
My migrane is still rocking me even after abstaining from all sexual activity since last Sunday so I've cut alcohol entirely as of yesterday. I have a fairly bad tendency to abuse it and alcoholism runs deep in my family. Probably safe to say I have an addiction... not looking forward to the coming weeks. Not ready to toss smoking (I've only been smoking tobacco) just yet but time will tell if I'll have to. Blue-balls and sobriety are plenty enough to deal with for now and I'll need something to take the edge off anyways.
Good luck with the abstinence, posture, and head, Adam. I should really look into my posture, too (he said, doubled over his phone).
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As well as cutting down on alcohol, to about 3 units, 4 times a week, I'm also taking magnesium daily. I still vape weed though 4 times a week. Whilst some articles refer to marijuana as a potential cause, none of them are actual studies, and appear to just refer to it as a possible generic source. I think this could be self perpetuating, and until someone can point to an academic study or test the jury is still out
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So it's been 3.5 weeks since I had a thunderclap. I have now jacked off 3 times since then, latest today. All without any crap which is good news.. I did have a migraine after the first 2 but not the third although it wasn't immediately thereafter (several hours later) so the migraine may not have been related, although I don't normally get migraines. I have been drinking a lot of water, seeking an osteopath and masseuse, playing tennis, doing pilates, and cutting down booze to half a bottle of wine a night for 5 nights and taking magnesium. The booze reduction is primarily calorie driven for me. I have to say I do think this is all to do with th neck and shoulders and having the right posture. I spend so much of my working time lazily hunched over a computer. I got something from the osteopath keeps body moving which is what it crucial so I'm told. So targeting muscle tension and posture and hydrating.
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seeing an osteopath and masseuse not seeking. obviously. How you doing WiseAx?
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Sounds like the changes are making a difference, Adam. Glad to hear it. Interesting how the causes of our thunderclaps seem rooted in different areas. Although back pain undoubtedly contributed to the problem, the intensity of my headache (and that feeling of an impending thunderclap) clearly rises and falls with my blood pressure while it seems that you're seeing marked improvement after focusing on posture and reducing muscle tension.
Once I cut out the booze my headache started to dull after 5-6 days and now (13 days) it's nearly gone. One orgasm since my last post and no thunderclap but my head didn't appreciate it much and throbbed for a couple hours after. Aiming to lower my blood pressure some more and kick the headache altogether before re-resuming sexual activity. I'm cautiously optimistic but wouldn't be surprised if symptoms were gone by the end of the week.
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I think it is blood pressure related, causing a rush of blood to the head, but I just wonder whether poor posture and straining the back and neck muscles causes something to happen in the arteries and to much blood goes to the head?? Have you tried magnesium? Are you drinking tons of water and focusing on steady breathing and not holding your breath? So have you cut out booze completely? How are you dealing with that? For me my best day happened about 22 days after my thunderclap and since then has been good. Thinking of having sex tonight but I might chicken out.....!!!
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My neurologist sent me to see a neurophysio who thinks that the reason this happens is due to being overweight and having poor posture. I haven’t had a thunderclap again and have been able to shoot my load without getting a headache but I do think it brings on a very slight migraine later in the day. She is using quite hard acupressure on a muscle either side of the neck. She presses down and a headache comes on and she keeps pressing until it disappears. Reckons this will prevent the migraines from reoccurring. I’ve increased my boozing but still drinking a lot less just to lose weight. Will post back again.
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How you doing WiseAx? Any improvement your side? How fit are you? Do you have poor posture?
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I said that I had been having acupressure which is not quite correct. The neuro physio has been "mobilising" my sternocleidomastoid muscles and as of last week started acupuncture there. During mobilisation she would be able to bring on a migraine by pressing down on certain areas and she would keep pressing until the migraine disappeared. I have not had a thunderclap for 2 months now, although I was getting a mild migraine after ejaculation, that would come on several hours later. This has now stopped. I am though prone to getting a migraine now from computer screens but find that if I take breaks I can avoid this. So, so far so good. Pretty much back to normal. For now!
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I'm having the same issue.
I never in my life had a migraine until a few days ago.
So recently I stopped drinking 2L of pepsi max a day. It's been about 10 - 12 days now.
I replaced it with black tea instead. So my consumption of caffeine has reduced from ~240mg to ~60mg.
A few days ago i light up a cigarette which I haven't done in about 2 years, I was always a social smoker, maybe 2-3 packets a year kind of thing.
I didn't feel too good afterwards, I figured my body isn't used to it. So I light up another one the day after, and immediately after that cigarette I had a dull and heavy feeling headache. That night I masturbated and I could feel the headache intensifying as I got closer to climax, thinking that it wouldn't be too bad as I've had something similar happen before, I was wrong.
As I ejaculated it was a huge thunderclap headache that made me hunch over immediately in pain. The worst part was as I experienced a second wave as I shot out twice (TMI? oops).
I thought I was having a stroke or something damaging to the brain. My whole head felt like it was tightening, and the back of my head had substantially more pain that the rest of my head.. I took ibuprofen with codeine and had to lie down for a couple of hours.
The next day I managed to have a regular orgasm, however the day after that I can feel the same onset of pain in the head when I was getting close to climax, I was 90% sure I would get the thunderclap sensation again as the head tensions got really strong.
I'm thinking it's a combination of a heavy reduction in caffeine, the two cigarettes I had, and the fact that I'm in front of the computer about 12 hours a day. I think I might be getting a bit of eye strain..
I see people talking about dehydration, but I drink LOTS of fluid every day so that's definitely not an issue (for me at least).
Like many of you who have posted, I am slightly overweight @ 88kg (193lbs) @ 183cm/6ft - although doubtful this is causation more than correlation.
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I have to say that it's been over 3 months now and I haven't had a reoccurrence of a thunderclap. My advice for anyone who has one is to see a neurologist and get a scan, lay off ejaculation for around 3 weeks (if you possibly can) get acupuncture on your neck by someone who knows what they are doing and get back and shoulder massages and see an osteopath. What I do find now is that I am more sensitive to getting a migraine from computer screens and so I have had to reduce my screen time significantly and take breaks from the screen every 30 minutes to avoid one coming on. I'm going to get a screen plastic film filter to see if that helps. Although I significantly reduced the amount of booze I consumed I'm back to previous levels when I party, but am still drinking less otherwise (but probably more than most!). And I'm still drinking loads of water. Good luck all. Do please also post your own feedback. There are so many people who have posted here but no one seems to return, which hopefully is good news
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Hi peeps, I'm a male in his 20's, made this account specialy to reply in here to help you.
I'm in good shape, didn't experienced any health problems before and suddenly I got in the hospital for quit some time due to experiencing what now appears to be thunderclap headaches.
They investigated me for a week (top neurologist), did a lot of scans, they even went with a camera inside my brain. It appears I have Reversible cerebral vasoconstriction syndrome, thunderclap is caused by this syndrom. Good news: it's "Reversible".
Smoked Marihuana , smoked tobacco, drank a lot of alcohol (binge drinking) during weekends, with from time to time (really not often) other things. I turrned my lifestyle around and decided to quit it all together, realizing you only have one body and health, which I want to last for a wile :) . This was the best thing that happened to me, it really turned my life upside down, you always think your invinsible till you experience something traumatic like this.
Doctor prescribed me pills which contain something that's normally used for heart deseases, it lowers your blood pressure and opens your vains, it's called Isoptine. I'm 1m80 and weigh about 68 kilograms, after some testing 2 pills of 5 mg (total of 10mg) which I take in at 08:00 - 12:00 - 16:00 helped. Started with 4 pills of 5 miligram but this was a bit heavy for me. The pharmacist basicly makes these pills out of another medicin so you need to look what suits you best. After 3 months the vains in your brain which are narrowed become normal again like nothing happened.
Hope I helped someone by taking the time to post this :)
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Hi, I am 25/M and I experienced my first thunderclap headache this week. I am fairly overweight weighing 220 lbs/183cm. It started when I finished my first ever reps of barbell squats ever in my life. There was a tremendous amount of pain in my occipital area for about 5 minutes and then it died down slowly over the day. Went home popped a paracetamol and went to bed. The next time I did a few reps of kettle bell squats and then BOOM, it happened again but this time only in the right side of my occipital area. I went to a physiotherapist who took an X-Ray of my spine and concluded that there was nothing to worry about. After all this mess, I had sex with my girlfriend and as soon I reached my orgasm my head literally exploded. Having read all the previous forum posts so far, it looks like some kind of pressure on the nervous system on top of my spine and below the head. Have scheduled an appointment with a neurologist this week and hoping for the best.
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I thought that I would send an update to my earlier posts as so few people have come back to update their posts which I hope is a positive sign. I had a thunderclap in March 2018 and whilst I was in a migraine zone for a number of weeks after that, I laid off ejaculation and the problem went away. I didn't reduce vaping of marijuana but I did reduce my alcohol in take for a bit which led to some weight loss! Fast forward to December 2018 and whilst I didn't have a thunderclap I did start to get a headache during sex: this was after I had been to 4 late night parties in a row where I had literally been out until 3am each night, drinking heavily and vaping very strong weed. I laid off ejaculation for a few days and there has been no return of symptoms. I still party, drink a fair amount and vape a lot of weed. But I have also lost more weight (I wasn't fat, but I wasn't slim either) and I continue to have a massage on a weekly basis, and see an osteopath and neurophysio who both do their think to relax a tight back. So so far so good! I hope this post gives hope to people!
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Grateful to have found this forum. I'm a 41 gay male and experienced my first "thunderclap" headache during vacation, about 10 days ago. It's summer now, and my partner and I were vacationing with his family at the beach. The weather was humid. I had gone out for a bike ride, which I don't usually do, but it wasn't especially strenuous. I came back to our room and we had sex. In the 5-10 seconds right before orgasm, I began to feel an unusual pulsing sensation in the back of my neck leading up to the backside of my skull, which, as I came, erupted into the most painful pounding headache I had ever experienced. It was distressing, for sure. The headache dulled and passed after about 20 or 30 minutes. The same results have accompanied almost every attempt at orgasm since. I've had a few successful sessions, but not without an extremely deliberate focus on breathing and working overtime to keep my head and shoulders relaxed - not a very "free" way to enjoy yourself. I also managed to give myself the worst headache yet, trying the "focus method", which then lasted for more than 24 hours. I tested my blood pressure during this time, and it was higher than it usually is, approaching hypertension...but has since settled back to normal as the headache finally dissipated. I researched sex headaches and read about them being one-time things for some people, and sometimes recurring for up to a year (no, thank you!). I also read that they could be indicative of more serious issues. And now I've found this forum, which has helped put my experiences in perspective after freaking myself out about those "more serious issues."
After the first thunderclap incident, I have also been having problems sleeping - hypnogogic jerks! Every time I start to fall asleep, I involuntarily jerk myself awake. I have managed to get some sleep and seem to be functioning fine otherwise, but the combination of the sleep jerks and the thunderclaps with the elevated blood pressure have been a lot to take over vacation... I am back from vacation now, feeling relieved to be home, and am seeing my doctor tomorrow. This forum has helped a lot to set my mind at ease and has got me thinking about other possible causes and solutions. I am hopeful about propanolol as a possible medical fix, but am also interested to read the posts here focused on dehydration and enzymes, which both sound like good things for me to explore (I drink a fair amount and have a long history of stomach issues). Also, acupuncture, which is something I've always wanted to try and really does seem like it could help with all of this. I will continue to experiment and post back here as my doctor and I hopefully find a solution that works for me and the circumstances I've described above. Thanks to all who have posted and shared their experiences. It really does help to feel not so alone with something like this.
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Hi Mixertee,
For me I found that it was best to lay of any kind of sex for a few weeks as during the first few weeks headaches were liable to reoccur. It's been a year and a half now and apart from one migraine episode I've been clear. I do though have a weekly massage, and monthly visit to the osteopath. I do wonder whether you were dehydrated....
All the best,
Adam
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Just thought I would post an update. I am pleased to say that I have not had a thunderclap or thunderclap type headache for a couple of years now. I did though recently start to develop cough headaches instead! These have now gone away and I put this down to having a course of deep tissue massage, which made me realise how stiff and tight my back was. Cough and sex headaches seem to be related and I think they are both connected to having very tight back muscles. I would therefore highly recommend deep tissue massage as a potential cure.
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Hi all, first-time poster here because I (43M) recently had my first "thunderclap headache during orgasm" and this thread seemed to be the most active discussion online about it. I'm posting to encourage people who experience to go to the doctor/ER IMMEDIATELY. Based on initially reading this thread after it happened to me, I thought I could ignore it and it would be OK, but it turns out I could have been really not OK.
Last month, at the moment of climax, I experienced a really strange headache, not a "thunderclap" necessarily but an instant-onset weird headache that felt like the top half of my brain was on fire. Lasted about 30 minutes and then totally went away.
A few days later, the next time I climaxed, I felt a much stronger instant headache at the moment of climax. It was like being hit in the head with a hammer, localized to the bottom left part of my brain but soon spread to a full-head headache with a stabbing pain in that one bottom left part. That headache did not go away and was by far the worst headache I've ever had. (I don't think I've ever had a migraine.)
The next day the headache continued from the moment I woke up. I just took ibuprofen but it was by far the worst headache I've had, and ibuprofen wasn't doing much. I was very sensitive to sound and light which made the headache much worse. It also got worse if I laid down.
The following day, I saw a doctor who said it could be a benign sexual headache, but there are other things it could be - potentially rupturing blood vessel, stroke, etc. He referred me to a CT scan and said if that didn't show anything, just drink fluids and take it easy. The (non-contrast) CT scan came back clear.
A couple days later, I went to my regular GP for a second opinion and he told me to go to the hospital ER to be safe. This was now 5 days after the thunderclap headache and I still had the splitting headache 24/7 and also now had occasional strange neck pains.
The hospital staff took my symptoms as potentially very serious and I was given triage priority. They performed a spinal tap, a contrast CT, and a follow-up MRI, and confirmed that I had experienced what is called a "vertebral artery dissection". Basically one of the four main arteries to the brain got a tear in one of its inner walls, leaking blood to the outer walls. They put me on anti-coagulant meds and better pain medications and they kept me there for a few days.
The doctors explained to me that while the majority of these incidents are basically benign and will heal themselves without intervention, the same symptoms can be several things, some of which are potentially fatal. The MRI specifically was to rule out a "subarachnoid hemorrhage" or whether I had some mini-strokes in the incident, either of which can be very serious. The anti-coagulants are to prevent a clot turning into a stroke, which apparently can occur after an artery dissection.
My prognosis is that it will be fully healed in a few months, and in the interim, the doctors said no diet or behaviour changes are necessary other than avoiding very strenuous exercise. I've been going celibate just to be safe but I think I'll try not doing that this weekend if I can convince my GF it won't kill me. It's now been a bit over a month and the headaches are still here but maybe 5% of what they were in that first week.
So I'm just here for future people like me, and my advice is - get it checked out ASAP. The vast majority of cases seem to be benign and resolve themselves, but in a small number of cases, it can be extremely serious. I wish I had gone in as soon as it happened, but I'm glad I didn't ignore it. I recommend being better safe than sorry if you have a thunderclap headache for any reason.
Hope this helps some souls in the future who experience these symptoms!