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Title: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: Pseudoscience-is-malarkey on 24/04/2021 04:47:40
Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire? In the U.S. we spend an uncountable amount of money on facilities that house sex offenders released from prison that cannot get a community's consent to live among them. If the desire for sex is eliminated from someone, then what do we/they have to worry about?
I believe in human rights strongly, and therefore can't support castration to be universally mandated, but I would support it for offenders that want to try to live normally. I don't know.
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: evan_au on 24/04/2021 10:18:31
Part of what makes someone a sex offender often includes a focus on self-gratification, the desire to dominate and control other people, and a lack of empathy.

So even if you reduce the impetus of self-gratification, you will still have the other traits hanging around...
- That's why parole often includes conditions like regularly reporting to police, seeing a counsellor, and/or wearing a tracking bracelet.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/09/180926110841.htm
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: Bored chemist on 24/04/2021 11:36:54
Anecdotal evidence based on vicars' legs suggests that it doesn't work on pets, so there's no reason to suppose it would work on humans.
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: charles1948 on 24/04/2021 20:05:58
Anecdotal evidence based on vicars' legs suggests that it doesn't work on pets, so there's no reason to suppose it would work on humans.

We'll never achieve peace and order and discipline while there is human sexual desire. Only when sex is thrown away, will real scientific civilisation become possible.
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: Kryptid on 24/04/2021 22:05:30
Anecdotal evidence based on vicars' legs suggests that it doesn't work on pets, so there's no reason to suppose it would work on humans.

We'll never achieve peace and order and discipline while there is human sexual desire. Only when sex is thrown away, will real scientific civilisation become possible.

How do you figure?
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: evan_au on 25/04/2021 04:08:58
Quote from: charles1948
We'll never achieve peace and order and discipline while there is human sexual desire.
It is true that when gonads are activated, the brain takes a back seat...
- I see in a number of species (eg elephants, whales) that the major social groups are women & children. Males are just too disruptive to have around all the time.
- But humans don't have that luxury. Our children are so helpless for so long that it takes all people (and all skills) in a village to raise a child.
- So we have to work to control excess passions and work together...
- Law and religion try to facilitate that, but rather unsuccessfully, I would have to say
- The "Me Too" movement has raised the level of public discussion of a problem that has been ignored for too long.

I am not quite so pessimistic as Oscar Wilde, who said:
Quote from: Oscar Wilde
Between men and women there is no friendship possible. There is passion, enmity, worship, love, but no friendship.
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: Petrochemicals on 27/04/2021 22:23:22
Anecdotal evidence based on vicars' legs suggests that it doesn't work on pets, so there's no reason to suppose it would work on humans.

We'll never achieve peace and order and discipline while there is human sexual desire. Only when sex is thrown away, will real scientific civilisation become possible.
That is the root of much in religion. We are not fornicating animals, but higher intelligences. The fixation on what is a biological reproductive neceßity is contrary to the conscious awareness and soul of humans.  But the hormones get the better of people.
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: charles1948 on 29/04/2021 19:29:41
Isn't this the essential problem of the male human body:

At the top end, there's a brain.  Whereas at the bottom end, there's a pair of testicles.

The conflict between brain and testicles, results in irrational phenomena such as the First and Second World Wars.  And the preparations being carried out for a Third World War, conducted with nuclear weapons.

The brain says "No - it's madness - everyone will get killed!"   
But the testes say: "Just kill the men, and ejaculate sperm into their women".

How will it end up?
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: Kryptid on 29/04/2021 21:32:31
But the testes say: "Just kill the men, and ejaculate sperm into their women".

You think that is what caused the world wars?
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: charles1948 on 29/04/2021 22:07:32
But the testes say: "Just kill the men, and ejaculate sperm into their women".

You think that is what caused the world wars?

Obviously there were superficial causes to both World Wars. But the ultimate cause was the testes.

If every man in 1914 and 1939 had had their testes surgically removed at birth, neither war would have happened, and we'd be living in a peaceful, modern scientific world.  Not barbarically obsessed with starting wars.

As proof of this, note that no women, who of course blessedly aren't afflicted by testes, have ever started wars throughout history.

Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: Kryptid on 29/04/2021 22:11:32
Obviously there were superficial causes to both World Wars. But the ultimate cause was the testes.

If every man in 1914 and 1939 had had their testes surgically removed at birth, neither war would have happened, and we'd be living in a peaceful, modern scientific world.  Not barbarically obsessed with starting wars.

Citation needed.

As proof of this, note that no women, who of course blessedly aren't afflicted by testes, have ever started wars throughout history.

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Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: charles1948 on 29/04/2021 22:51:02
Don't click on any link supplied by Kryptid. I clicked on one, and couldn't get off it . In the end I had to switch off and re-start.
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: Kryptid on 29/04/2021 22:58:34
Don't click on any link supplied by Kryptid. I clicked on one, and couldn't get off it . In the end I had to switch off and re-start.

Odd. Might have been a virus in one of the ads. I have ad-blocker, so I wouldn't have noticed.

I've removed it, just to be safe.
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: evan_au on 30/04/2021 11:00:12
Quote from: charles1948
If every man in 1914 and 1939 had had their testes surgically removed at birth, neither war would have happened, and we'd be living in a peaceful, modern scientific world.
If you did that, the world's population would be considerably lower than it is now.
- perhaps leaving a few tribes to fight each other...
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: charles1948 on 02/05/2021 19:46:26
Quote from: charles1948
If every man in 1914 and 1939 had had their testes surgically removed at birth, neither war would have happened, and we'd be living in a peaceful, modern scientific world.
If you did that, the world's population would be considerably lower than it is now.
- perhaps leaving a few tribes to fight each other...

Evan, I'm sick and tired of what I hear on the news all the time.   It's always about people fighting each other.

I wish we could just get on with Science.



Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: evan_au on 02/05/2021 23:32:14
Quote from: Charles1948
If every man in 1914 and 1939 had had their testes surgically removed...
(the news) is always about people fighting each other. I wish we could just get on with Science.
Did you think that your proposed genocide wouldn't start a fight?
Title: Re: Does castration (physical or chemically induced) eliminate sexual desire?
Post by: Bored chemist on 02/05/2021 23:42:19
It's always about people fighting each other.
Really?
I thought it was about us  fighting off a plague by cooperation..