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On the Lighter Side => New Theories => Topic started by: opportunity on 23/03/2018 10:04:26
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I know I am going to be shot down left right and centre for suggesting this question, as it almost hearkens on biblical proportions, yet, "if the next quantum leap of theory revolves around a technological discovery that revolves around a science that challenges the a-priori definitions of space and time we're use to, and believe me we're doing all we can, if the next step is the end for "old/contemporary" science and in with the new, then what are the problems there for "old-science" given the new technological step that would "hypothetically" (and this is just a question, not a statement of fact yet) warrant a new approach to energy generation and propulsion systems?"
For instance, would "old-science" hold back the findings to gradually implement the new findings, the "new science", into their research work? Or, go into a meltdown? This is a "worst case scenario" question for anyone not expecting a new a-priori for the red-shift, the CMBR, and FTL, and associated model of time and space. But if there was one, promoting a technology of energy and propulsion current science can't explain with their models, would there be restrictions in play, and if so what?
For instance, what agency is responsible for outlining the future of scientific progress? Then, do they have projections and protocols in play for "major" steps forward?
It must be noted that the last time we went through a renaissance of science was during the last two world wars in which context it was all hands on deck without worrying about a "general" global scientific community.
What if this new science gave us the breathing space we don't have with contemporary science, with Earth? Does it become a game of what "works best"? Or, is it something more fundamental?
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Ok, what if I said the following:
What will happen to humanity if we discover a TOE, a theory of everything, and thus presumably a way to link gravity with EM (electromagnetism) "according to" the big bang and thus a universe full of stars we can presumably explore?
Star Trek? Seriously?
The "way" we have handled the CMBR, red shift effect, big bang, and supposed FTL is "not very imaginative".....its pitchfork logic.....and its asking us to spend billions on things we can't prove, can't get to, can't actualy demonstrate.....its asking our best minds to focus on, dare I say it, what will always amount to "apparaitions". The stars are out of reach, periord, unless FTL is real. Period.
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What will happen to humanity if we discover a TOE, a theory of everything, and thus presumably a way to link gravity with EM (electromagnetism) "according to" the big bang and thus a universe full of stars we can presumably explore?
That depends a lot on the details of the working theory. There's certainly no guarantee that it will let us control gravity, warp space or move faster than light.
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So looking for alien life that can presumably do that, do FTL, makes us feel a little useless with our own TOE?
You know, let's go star trek, and ask the "galactic federation" <I know> "who has the best TOE"? Is it based on technological advancement? That's so dumb though.
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So looking for alien life that can presumably do that, do FTL, makes us feel a little useless with our own TOE?
You know, let's go star trek, and ask the "galactic federation" <I know> "who has the best TOE"? Is it based on technological advancement? That's so dumb though.
Who said anything about looking for aliens with superluminal technology? Sublight aliens would be a nice discovery too.
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Science will continue to follow where the evidence leads.
Individual scientists may get upset about it, but science will keep going just fine.
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So looking for alien life that can presumably do that, do FTL, makes us feel a little useless with our own TOE?
You know, let's go star trek, and ask the "galactic federation" <I know> "who has the best TOE"? Is it based on technological advancement? That's so dumb though.
Who said anything about looking for aliens with superluminal technology? Sublight aliens would be a nice discovery too.
That's only possible from within this solar system. Do the math. Seriously, scientists, good scientists, have done that math.
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Science will continue to follow where the evidence leads.
Individual scientists may get upset about it, but science will keep going just fine.
I agree. Knowing how all this stuff works poses more questions than answers when it comes to the matter of "handling" that power with fellow humans.
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That's only possible from within this solar system. Do the math. Seriously, scientists, good scientists, have done that math.
What's only possible from within this Solar System? Finding aliens? Why would we have to be within this Solar System to find aliens?
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That's only possible from within this solar system. Do the math. Seriously, scientists, good scientists, have done that math.
What's only possible from within this Solar System? Finding aliens? Why would we have to be within this Solar System to find aliens?
It's like you're asking why Swiss cheese has holes and why holes are in Swiss cheese.
Have you done the math?
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It's like you're asking why Swiss cheese has holes and why holes are in Swiss cheese.
Have you done the math?
The math for what? As in the other thread, I'm having trouble understanding what you mean.
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It's like you're asking why Swiss cheese has holes and why holes are in Swiss cheese.
Have you done the math?
The math for what? As in the other thread, I'm having trouble understanding what you mean.
I have to agree, I’m also having difficulty with these, presumed, ‘deep insights’. Also, in the context of the earlier discussion:
That's only possible from within this solar system. Do the math. Seriously, scientists, good scientists, have done that math.
What's only possible from within this Solar System? Finding aliens? Why would we have to be within this Solar System to find aliens?
The response: “It's like you're asking why Swiss cheese has holes and why holes are in Swiss cheese.“ is a response that would do the Box proud.
Look out Box, you’ve got competition here.
On the other hand there may be some deep meaning here that we are missing, i await enlightenment.