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How do microwaves behave?

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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #120 on: 09/12/2021 12:35:28 »
Did you look at the spatial distribution of the "transmitted" radiation?
You might get something like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airy_disk
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #121 on: 10/12/2021 04:15:02 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 09/12/2021 12:35:28
Did you look at the spatial distribution of the "transmitted" radiation?
You might get something like this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airy_disk

I'm not sure if it's related, because I only measured the central position of the microwave beam.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #122 on: 16/12/2021 15:06:38 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 09/12/2021 11:35:42
Meanwhile, I've repeated the investigation on blocking mechanism of microwave using aluminum sheet 0.1 mm thick with various width from 7 to 70 mm, corresponding to around 0.25 to 2.5 wavelengths.
Here is the video. To reduce the filesize, I made the video smaller.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #123 on: 17/12/2021 12:17:28 »
Just when I finished the recording, an idea occurred to me to repeat the same experiment, but the width of the sheet is oriented longitudinally. Would you like to make a guess what the result will be?
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #124 on: 01/01/2022 03:42:03 »
Here it is. If you only want to see the final result, just skip to 5:15.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #125 on: 02/01/2022 13:31:19 »
Here is the follow up of previous experiment. The longitudinal metal sheet now acts like the tail of a quarter wavelength metal strip which blocks the microwave transversally. You can also skip to 5:05 if you want to save your time and just want to know the final results.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #126 on: 03/01/2022 01:17:30 »
The last experimental results remind me of power transfer and impedance matching. I'll try to verify this hypothesis in the next experiment using wider strip facing  the receiver.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #127 on: 04/01/2022 12:16:02 »
I also have recorded the experiment but the metal sheet is placed in front of the transmitter. I decided to split the video to make the results easier to follow, also to reduce the length of the video so the editing and uploading can be done faster.

Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 02/01/2022 13:31:19
Here is the follow up of previous experiment. The longitudinal metal sheet now acts like the tail of a quarter wavelength metal strip which blocks the microwave transversally. You can also skip to 5:05 if you want to save your time and just want to know the final results.
Spoiler: show

The result is notably different than previous experiment. I think it's due to the metal sheet interacts with the horn antenna of the transmitter. The case is different when the metal sheet is right in front of the receiver
« Last Edit: 12/01/2022 08:32:34 by hamdani yusuf »
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #128 on: 12/01/2022 08:34:50 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 04/01/2022 12:16:02
I also have recorded the experiment but the metal sheet is placed in front of the transmitter. I decided to split the video to make the results easier to follow, also to reduce the length of the video so the editing and uploading can be done faster.
Here is the video.
You can see the summary at 4:10 time stamp.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #129 on: 24/01/2022 06:05:59 »
In these videos, the width of metal strip facing the receiver or transmitter is a half wavelength.


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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #130 on: 02/02/2022 09:13:31 »
Here's another video demonstrating longitudinal blocking by L-Shaped 3/4 wavelength metal sheet on receiver side.

You can skip to 3:45 to see the result.

It's interesting that the trend is significantly different compared to when it's done from transmitter side. I'm editing the video, and it'll be uploaded as soon as it's done. Stay tuned.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #131 on: 07/02/2022 03:59:54 »
Here's another video demonstrating longitudinal blocking by L-Shaped 3/4 wavelength metal sheet on transmitter side.

These seemingly boring experiments are meant to show that longitudinally oriented conductor which has no effect on propagation of light can have some effects if it's connected to a transversally oriented conductor. I have a plan to replicate this kind of experiments, but with those conductors disconnected. I guess we will still see some effects, although not as big as when they are connected.
The experiments also show that depicting light propagation as a stream of point-like particle is an over-simplification.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #132 on: 07/02/2022 08:48:34 »
I've finished recording an experiment with double aluminum sheet, which is made of a folded sheet with a layer of plastic duct tape between the front and rear sheet to prevent direct electrical conduction. I hope to finish the editing soon so I can share it with you.

There are many ideas crossing my mind already to improve our understanding on how light behaves, especially in microwave frequency. But there's one that makes me interested to do as soon as possible. I think that polarization, especially the circular/elliptical type, is one behavior of light which is less understood, or even misunderstood by lay persons.
After many sessions of brainstorming, I made a decision to build an interferometer to demonstrate this behavior, which hopefully can help to understand it better. Based on its shape, I think I can rightly call it much greater than interferometer. It has some resemblance with the second diagram below. It will let me split the incoming microwave into vertically and horizontally polarized wave with different trajectory, and gives me control to adjust their path lengths independently.


http://www.industrial-electronics.com/laser_9.html

With horizontally oriented metal grids replacing the beam splitters, and reflectors replacing the corner cube, I expect to get an elliptically polarized microwave in the receiver when the transmitter is rotated by 45 degree. The distance between the polarizers and the reflectors will determine the orientation as well as the polarization state of received microwave. I should be able to produce +/- 45° linearly polarized microwave, elliptically or circularly polarized microwave, either in clockwise or counterclockwise direction, by simply adjusting the distance between the polarizers and the reflectors. Let me know what you think of this idea.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #133 on: 10/02/2022 08:27:13 »
Meanwhile, here's another experiment demonstrating blocking of microwave transmission by double layer metal sheet.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #134 on: 17/02/2022 07:42:19 »
While preparing the much greater than interferometer, I inadvertently found interesting effects with a linear polarizer when placed between transmitter and receiver in longitudinal orientation.
I hope I can upload the video soon to share it with you.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #135 on: 01/03/2022 09:09:44 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 17/02/2022 07:42:19
While preparing the much greater than interferometer, I inadvertently found interesting effects with a linear polarizer when placed between transmitter and receiver in longitudinal orientation.
I hope I can upload the video soon to share it with you.
Here it is

Investigation on Microwave Transceiver 69: Longitudinal Polarizer
Demonstration of the effect of linear polarizer when oriented longitudinally.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #136 on: 01/03/2022 09:15:19 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 07/02/2022 08:48:34
Based on its shape, I think I can rightly call it much greater than interferometer.

Investigation on Microwave Transceiver 70 : Construction of Much Greater Than Interferometer
Design and construction of a type of interferometer to investigate deeper on polarization and phase changing
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #137 on: 06/03/2022 16:12:40 »
When editing the experiment with double reflector, I got an idea that diagonally polarized microwave can produce interesting results. I hope to share the new video with you soon. Stay tuned.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #138 on: 09/03/2022 06:49:07 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 06/03/2022 16:12:40
When editing the experiment with double reflector, I got an idea that diagonally polarized microwave can produce interesting results. I hope to share the new video with you soon. Stay tuned.
Here it is. I hope you enjoy it.
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Re: How do microwaves behave?
« Reply #139 on: 18/03/2022 08:42:05 »
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 01/03/2022 09:15:19
Quote from: hamdani yusuf on 07/02/2022 08:48:34
Based on its shape, I think I can rightly call it much greater than interferometer.

Investigation on Microwave Transceiver 70 : Construction of Much Greater Than Interferometer
Design and construction of a type of interferometer to investigate deeper on polarization and phase changing

It turns out that the design is similar to my plan of an experiment using single photon.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=68595.msg646801#msg646801
 
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