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Of course, by using spin time energy and creating a spatial space-time vortex, the layers of space-time become compressed and gain density.

In Reply #88 I address what is known as the Proton Spin Crisis (or puzzle) and some recent theory. Then in Replies #90 and #91 I speculate heavily about a concept I call the “persistence of spin” of a wave-particle. This is going to come up again down the road but I don’t have anything new to add until I finish this series of posts on the speculated cause of quantum gravity in the ISU.

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Of course, by using spin time energy and creating a spatial space-time vortex, the layers of space-time become compressed and gain density.

In Reply #88 I address what is known as the Proton Spin Crisis (or puzzle) and some recent theory. Then in Replies #90 and #91 I speculate heavily about a concept I call the “persistence of spin” of a wave-particle. This is going to come up again down the road but I don’t have anything new to add until I finish this series of posts on the speculated cause of quantum gravity in the ISU.

Maybe you could think about adding photon spin momentum somewhere .

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

Maybe you could think about adding photon spin momentum somewhere .

If you wish. Is 2019 soon enough? Or you could start a thread, with some links to known science, and we could speculate from there.

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Maybe you could think about adding photon spin momentum somewhere .

If you wish. Is 2019 soon enough? Or you could start a thread, with some links to known science, and we could speculate from there.

Well 2019 is not that long away, I have lots of things going on , maybe it can wait.  I might end up starting a thread lol.

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Reply #344


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Continuing he force of quantum gravity in the ISU …



34) Within the particle space, meaningful gravitational waves are continually converging across the entire space. The convergences each form a momentary high energy density spot or hint of mass, and the sum of energy in all of the spots at any instant equals the mass of the wave-particle. That sum, divided by the number of spots at that instant, establishes the energy value of the average quantum increment within the particle space.

Note: Each convergence, at any given moment during the determination of the value of the quantum, can contain a slightly different amount of energy because there is a time delay between the inflow period of the spot formation and the completion of the convergence peak. During that time delay, the wave convergence incorporates multiple wave fronts from different directions, which contribute to the energy peak. Upon reaching the quantum of energy, the peak moment is followed by the emission of the third wave, which is quantum, and which converts the hint of mass at the moment of the peak value, into a third wave which distributes the accumulated wave energy spherically, to continue the process of quantum action within the particle space; wave energy, to hint of mass, to wave energy is the sequence of events that is continually occurring throughout the entire particle space.

35) The third wave formation can be depicted as two (or more) quantum waves converging at a point of intersection, and causing a growing overlap space to form around that the point of intersection, which then emerges and expands spherically as the third wave when a when a quantum of energy is accumulated in the overlap space, as depicted in the following image from a previous thought experiment:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/gallery/43933_27_07_17_3_48_14.jpeg



36) The point of completion of the energy accumulation, as the energy in the overlap space reaches the peak value of a quantum of energy, can be calculated using the ISU quantum equation (the same equation used to determine the point at the macro level when two or more converging parent big bang arenas reach critical capacity, just before the collapse/bang):





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The force of quantum gravity in the ISU to be continued …

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Reply #344
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34) Within the particle space, meaningful gravitational waves are continually converging across the entire space. The convergences each form a momentary high energy density spot or hint of mass, and the sum of energy in all of the spots at any instant equals the mass of the wave-particle. That sum, divided by the number of spots at that instant, establishes the energy value of the average quantum increment within the particle space.

Note: Each convergence, at any given moment during the determination of the value of the quantum, can contain a slightly different amount of energy because there is a time delay between the inflow period of the spot formation and the completion of the convergence peak. During that time delay, the wave convergence incorporates multiple wave fronts from different directions, which contribute to the energy peak. Upon reaching the quantum of energy, the peak moment is followed by the emission of the third wave, which is quantum, and which converts the hint of mass at the moment of the peak value, into a third wave which distributes the accumulated wave energy spherically, to continue the process of quantum action within the particle space; wave energy, to hint of mass, to wave energy is the sequence of events that is continually occurring throughout the entire particle space.

35) The third wave formation can be depicted as two (or more) quantum waves converging at a point of intersection, and causing a growing overlap space to form around that the point of intersection, which then emerges and expands spherically as the third wave when a when a quantum of energy is accumulated in the overlap space, as depicted in the following image from a previous thought experiment:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/gallery/43933_27_07_17_3_48_14.jpeg



36) The point of completion of the energy accumulation, as the energy in the overlap space reaches the peak value of a quantum of energy, can be calculated using the ISU quantum equation (the same equation used to determine the point at the macro level when two or more converging parent big bang arenas reach critical capacity, just before the collapse/bang):





https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/gallery/43933_25_07_17_11_46_46.jpeg







The force of quantum gravity in the ISU to be continued …

I know you have not edited yet, but I wanted to say wow, your second diagram showed ''class', was beyond my knowledge.   
However I am glad you put the first diagram in, that was much easier to understand and quite ''beautiful''.
I have a question on your model, do the parent arenas rotate around each other ?

added- Additionally have you considered the overlay arena may manifest parent arenas internally ?

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I know you have not edited yet, but I wanted to say wow, your second diagram showed ''class', was beyond my knowledge.

I have begun to pick up a little LaTex code over the years, but this is really the only equation that I have written for the ISU, and a few years ago someone helped me put it into LaTex code. It is the ISU sphere-sphere overlap quantum equation, and as the description says, it works with the process of quantum action, at both the macro and micro levels.

The equation is simple, and if you know the verbal description, I think you can get it. The diagram, showing the sphere-sphere intersection has two spheres and each sphere has a cap.

So VcapR/VR is the volume of cap R divided by the volume of sphere R. That gives you the ratio of the volume of cap R to the volume sphere R (think of it as the percentage of sphere R that is included in cap R). Follow that same approach for each of the four parts of the left side of the equation, by using the corresponding part of the right side of the equation for the formulas, and if you assign values to each element in the diagram, you end up with four percentages. Add the four percentages together to get the sum, and compare that sum to 100%. When it reaches 100%, you have accumulated one quantum of energy in the overlap space, and that marks the point that the third wave has a quantum of energy emitted spherically from the overlap space.

   
However I am glad you put the first diagram in, that was much easier to understand and quite ''beautiful''.

Why, thank you.

I have a question on your model, do the parent arenas rotate around each other ?

I have tended to avoid writing about my contemplation on the subject, until now. You may remember when we were chatting on your “Wave Particle” thread that we got into a discussion of the possible lattice structure of the layout and action of big bang arenas at the macro level, making up the big bang arena landscape of the greater universe. I don’t envision that the expanding arenas would have much relative motion because the action is more related to expansion and overlap with adjacent arenas.

At the micro level of action, we are talking about the tiny hints of mass that form at the convergences of gravitation wave energy fronts that are active within and around the particle space. Those convergences represent the directional sources of wave energy from the gravitational wave energy density profile of space, so they don’t represent the motion of wave-particles, they are the consequence of wave fronts that are about to intersect. 

added- Additionally have you considered the overlay arena may manifest parent arenas internally ?

Yes, but not in the same time frame as you are looking at them in the diagrams. After the third wave is emitted and expands spherically, it will become a parent wave (or arena depending on if you are talking about the micro or macro levels of action). Once the parent third wave converges with another parent third wave, a “child” arena forms within their overlap space.

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The equation is simple, and if you know the verbal description,

I will read the post over again tomorrow when I have a fresh head on to try and lean your math.  I have however considered your model adding some complexity, I found a video to show what I mean .

I think your ISU could turn out something special .  The video shows us possible formations of the ISU don't you agree?

added - 0.50s in looks a good formation to consider with the overlap arenas.


added - 0.40s in , this visualizes the overlap expansion.

P.s I think your model could be more complex than you think after watching the second video .

Anyway goodnight

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

I think your ISU could turn out something special .  The video shows us possible formations of the ISU don't you agree?

added - 0.50s in looks a good formation to consider with the overlap arenas.

added - 0.40s in , this visualizes the overlap expansion.

P.s I think your model could be more complex than you think after watching the second video .

Anyway goodnight

Thank you for the efforts to show a visualization of the ISU. I have been visualizing it for years, and have shown you this image of a depiction of a multiple arena patch of the landscape of the greater universe a few times:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/gallery/43933_06_08_17_6_06_27.jpeg


It isn't a very good drawing, but I thought that if I added the arena boundaries it might help people envision the big bang arena landscape across the greater universe, and I came up with this:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/gallery/43933_03_07_18_1_33_57.jpeg


Maybe I'll try to improve the image as time goes on.

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I think your ISU could turn out something special .  The video shows us possible formations of the ISU don't you agree?

added - 0.50s in looks a good formation to consider with the overlap arenas.

added - 0.40s in , this visualizes the overlap expansion.

P.s I think your model could be more complex than you think after watching the second video .

Anyway goodnight

Thank you for the efforts to show a visualization of the ISU. I have been visualizing it for years, and have shown you this image of a depiction of a multiple arena patch of the landscape of the greater universe a few times:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/gallery/43933_06_08_17_6_06_27.jpeg


It isn't a very good drawing, but I thought that if I added the arena boundaries it might help people envision the big bang arena landscape across the greater universe, and I came up with this:
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/gallery/43933_03_07_18_1_33_57.jpeg


Maybe I'll try to improve the image as time goes on.

It is hard to envision , I will attempt it on CGI , may take a few days  to get it right though.   I will then upload it for you to view .  You are also missing your field density lines on your drawings, where the density stops the fields totally merging. 


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It is hard to envision , I will attempt it on CGI , may take a few days  to get it right though.   I will then upload it for you to view .  You are also missing your field density lines on your drawings, where the density stops the fields totally merging. 

It will be interesting to see what you do on CGI.

In regard to the missing field density lines on the drawings … sometimes I put numerical values on drawings to show the relative densities of the various spheres and sphere-sphere overlaps, but those numbers are subjective and relative. I may use numbers from 1 to 10 in some cases, or from 100 to 1000, etc., depending on the relative densities involved. They represent my thinking of the differences in density levels from place to place on a particular drawing, but unless you know what the numbers mean, they tend to complicate the image.

Further, there is a force in the ISU, that like gravity, always exists, and it is called energy density equalization. It is what causes the expansion when a hot dense ball of wave energy that is emitted from a big crunch when it collapse/bangs into the much lower energy density of the surrounding space. The high density space (space that is occupied by higher gravitational wave energy density) always encroaches on the low density space, and as a result, the volume occupied by the higher density increases while the volume occupied by the lower density decreases. However, the high density space trends toward lower density as the encroachment plays out, and theoretically there will be an equalization of the density across the two converging spaces. I’m sure you have noticed that I mention energy density equalization often.

The field lines that you envision would be another way to designate the local density, but I always envision the relationship between the two major forces, gravity and density equalization, because they drive constant change. Any designation of local density is temporary, subjective, and relative to the surrounding densities in the density profile, so I would find adding your idea of field lines to be difficult, though I am always aware of the forces that cause the local densities to be what they are. However, thank you for suggesting that I show some designation of the relative densities on the drawing.

Note: I put a lot of significance on the feature of the ISU model that I call the gravitational wave energy density profile of space:
1) The profile consists of nothing but gravitational waves traversing space.
2) Each gravitational wave originates as a spherical third wave emitted by the convergence of two or more “parent” waves.
3) The gravitational wave fronts carry energy across space.
4) Every point in space has a net energy density value caused by the local presence of gravitational wave fronts that are carrying energy past that point from all directions.
5) The net value of the energy density at each point is continually changing because there is a constant inflow of wave fronts to and through each point from the gravitational wave energy density profile.
6) Everything that occupies space is therefore composed of gravitational wave energy of some density value.
7) There are thresholds and limits related to energy density that govern the way those gravitational waves get organized to establish the presence of the things that we observe in space.
8 ) Every object in space has formed there from wave energy after a big bang event initiates the formation of a new big bang arena, and will be negated into its constituent wave energy when it gets captured in a new local big crunch.
9) Entropy is defeated, meaning that the progress of how useful energy gets used up is continually advancing (entropy increases) until the cold dead matter of old, aging and maturing arenas gets renewed into low entropy when a big crunch reaches critical capacity and collapse/bangs, releasing a huge ball of hot dense wave energy.
10) The ISU model features the processes of big bang arena action at the macro level, and quantum action at the micro level, that together orchestrate the continual change from matter to energy and back to matter across the big bang arena landscape of the greater universe.

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I may use numbers from 1 to 10 in some cases, or from 100 to 1000, etc., depending on the relative densities involved. They represent my thinking of the differences in density levels from place to place on a particular drawing, but unless you know what the numbers mean, they tend to complicate the image.

I will just comment on this first why I continue to think, the numbers represent the inverse square law ?

I’m sure you have noticed that I mention energy density equalization often.

I would call it enthalpic equilibrium , but yes I understood what you mean.

I’m sure you have noticed that I mention energy density equalization often.

You may want to consider representing this with colours, purple being denser than red for example. Sort of coloured bands representing different layers of the arenas from a central point outwards.  Example : A blue layer can ''support'' a blue layer because the field density at point x of each arena  is equal in density.

My only comments at this time.

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I have done this so far , explaining micro bang,  Grandparent arena action .

Defining : Mono-pole dissipate. 

  and     n being unknown/any dimension .  A and B being respectively opposite assigned poles.

What I believe to be the fundamental energy that powers the Universe.

A + B simultaneously manifesting at any given point of the grandparent arena causing a manifestation of a  parent arena and  big crunch ??

Which would be the next video before we go into parent arenas over lapping , causing child arenas.

Just to add, this dissipating energy , could be looked upon as being a cosmic background microwave radiation.

I see you have

1) Grandparent arena
2) Parent arena
3) Convergence Child arena
4) Internally of convergence arena, baby arenas

Does that summon up your theory with each arena explained?

Well I got little sleep  and thought I would add this for you, you may or may not want to add some of this in your model to cover a few areas more intricate.


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This in essence explaining the inflow implosion of energy that was created in the prior video I posted,   explaining further more the big crunch and big bang .
I have drawn the inflow wave energy as wave energy fields just to visualize the process easier.  I call the inflow wave energy  'particle' , the dissipate mono-pole particles , these particles having 0 dimensions and being opposite in assigned pole.

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Any way, if I could I would give you


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I think your theory is brilliant and I love the way you use the different arenas.  That is an honest opinion, I am not sucking up to you . 

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Sorry the simulation did not turn out as good as I wanted, the software is free and was playing up.  However we can observe the density change in the child arena convergence.

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Sorry the simulation did not turn out as good as I wanted, the software is free and was playing up.  However we can observe the density change in the child arena convergence.

I like the way that the blue and red spheres resemble mature big bang arenas filled with galactic structure. I see you got the red sphere (arena) to show expansion as the galactic content appears to have separation momentum through space, thus increasing the volume of space it occupies, as generally observed in our Hubble view.

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Sorry the simulation did not turn out as good as I wanted, the software is free and was playing up.  However we can observe the density change in the child arena convergence.

I like the way that the blue and red spheres resemble mature big bang arenas filled with galactic structure. I see you got the red sphere (arena) to show expansion as the galactic content appears to have separation momentum through space, thus increasing the volume of space it occupies, as generally observed in our Hubble view.

Thanks , you read that well and explained  it back well.

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Thanks , you read that well and explained  it back well.

There are some other instructive elements to your video, even though only one of the arenas is inflating. For example, the closing gap between the expanding arena wave fronts puts them in close enough proximity for there to be a measurable gravitational effect between them, which is the scenario that I suggest would cause a cold spot to be observable. The idea is that the mutual gravitational attraction between the converging arenas will cause an outward displacement of the galaxies in each parent arena, causing that space to appear less dense and cooler as a result.

Also, as the two arenas intersect, the point of intersection becomes the center of gravity of the overlapping of the two parent arenas. The overlap space grows as the two arenas continue to converge, and the lens shaped overlap forms. That lens shaped overlap makes up the two vertical caps that I show in the diagram, and that are two of the volumes that come into play in the ISU quantum equation.

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the ISU quantum equation.

I recognize the bottom line of your equation as the volume of a sphere, I am still considering the top line. 

Does it firstly say 1 third times pi ?

[Bogie_smiles (OP)]

the ISU quantum equation.

I recognize the bottom line of your equation as the volume of a sphere, I am still considering the top line. 

The top line,
That part of the equation identifies the various volumes (pieces) that make up the two converging quantum spherical waves.
https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/gallery/43933_25_07_17_11_46_46.jpeg

There are the two Vertical Caps, and there are the two parent spheres, i.e., four pieces that make up the two spheres. Each element of the left side of the equation has a counterpart on the right side that gives the formula to calculate the volume of the piece.

Does it firstly say 1 third times pi ?

Yes.