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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #340 on: 11/12/2021 00:53:23 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/12/2021 23:03:05
If a macroscopic stone oscillates, do you think that the particles or atoms of that stone oscillate in the same way?
The question is meaningless.
If you don't recognise that, you should go and learn some science
If you do recognise it, you should stop trolling.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #341 on: 11/12/2021 01:42:52 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/12/2021 00:53:23
Quote from: Kartazion on 10/12/2021 23:03:05
If a macroscopic stone oscillates, do you think that the particles or atoms of that stone oscillate in the same way?
The question is meaningless.
If you don't recognise that, you should go and learn some science
If you do recognise it, you should stop trolling.
A rock can always be observed with its momentum and position. Whereas its quantum particle it is given by probability distributions if the observation takes place. Because without this observation of quantum coherence the particle is in a chaotic state of ubiquity*. Of course the particle to be studied can also be in the form of a wave packet.

In fact until you observe it, then the particle is not there, because: "I like to think the moon is there even if I am not looking at it." Albert Einstein
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #342 on: 11/12/2021 13:00:56 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/12/2021 01:42:52
A rock can always be observed with its momentum and position.
No, it can't- due to the uncertainty principle.

Why do you keep posting stuff that's plainly wrong?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #343 on: 11/12/2021 13:01:59 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/12/2021 01:42:52
In fact until you observe it, then the particle is not there, because: "I like to think the moon is there even if I am not looking at it." Albert Einstein
Whether or not a particle is there is not a consequence of something Einstein said.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #344 on: 11/12/2021 13:39:27 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/12/2021 13:00:56
No, it can't- due to the uncertainty principle.

Why do you keep posting stuff that's plainly wrong?
Yes we can. You are wrong. The uncertainty principle is insignificant for macrocopic objects. To hear you say that it would be impossible for the rock when it is only true for the quantum particle.                           

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Whether or not a particle is there is not a consequence of something Einstein said.
I'd rather listen to Einstein than you. And Young's slit experiment makes it clear. So?

Your poor answer has no consequences for me.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #345 on: 11/12/2021 15:04:21 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/12/2021 13:39:27
The uncertainty principle is insignificant
It is small, but not zero.
Which is why you are wrong.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #346 on: 11/12/2021 15:05:09 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/12/2021 13:39:27
I'd rather listen to Einstein
The trouble is that you listen, but do not understand.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #347 on: 11/12/2021 15:28:29 »
Quote from: Bored chemist on 11/12/2021 13:01:59
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/12/2021 01:42:52
In fact until you observe it, then the particle is not there, because: "I like to think the moon is there even if I am not looking at it." Albert Einstein
Whether or not a particle is there is not a consequence of something Einstein said.
It annoys me when you say nonsense.

Observation Affects Reality.|

When you observe something in the world—a tree, a bird or anything else—you know that regardless of where and when you observe the object, it will always remain the same. However, what if I told you that the time and manner you looked at a particular bird would affect its appearance? It sounds quite absurd, but absurdity is normal when it comes to the bizarre laws of the quantum realm. The laws of quantum mechanics work very differently than the physics of the regular-sized world. ... Now, the most absurd thing about this phenomena is that it can only occur when no one is observing it. Once an observer begins to watch the particles going through the opening, the obtained image changes dramatically: if a particle can be seen going through one opening, it is clear that it did not go through another opening. In other words, when under observation, electrons are more or less being forced to behave like particles instead of waves. source: https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/observer-effect-quantum-mechanics.html

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Quote from: Kartazion on 11/12/2021 13:39:27
I'd rather listen to Einstein
The trouble is that you listen, but do not understand.

 "Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Albert Einstein

@Bored chemist If I understand correctly, I can imagine that I'm better than your knowledge.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #348 on: 11/12/2021 19:46:39 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/12/2021 15:28:29
If I understand correctly,
You don't.
That's the problem.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #349 on: 11/12/2021 19:48:15 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/12/2021 15:28:29
Observation Affects Reality.|
Yes it does. But that isn't the point.
Someone allegedly saying something about an observation does not affect reality- particularly when the person who said it has been dead for years.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #350 on: 11/12/2021 20:00:59 »
Anyway...

The critical gravitational field strength to cause the avalanche electron-positron pair production by not the electric (Schwinger effect) but the gravitational field because of the Bloch oscillations and Zener transition between the Dirac sea states with the holes seen as positrons and the free electron states corresponds in field strength to the gravitational field at the Black Hole Schwarzschild radius sphere corresponding to the Unruh-Hawking temperature of the Hawking radiation of the half of the electron rest mass energy.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #351 on: 11/12/2021 20:40:22 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/12/2021 20:00:59
Anyway...

The critical gravitational field strength to cause the avalanche electron-positron pair production by not the electric (Schwinger effect) but the gravitational field because of the Bloch oscillations and Zener transition between the Dirac sea states with the holes seen as positrons and the free electron states corresponds in field strength to the gravitational field at the Black Hole Schwarzschild radius sphere corresponding to the Unruh-Hawking temperature of the Hawking radiation of the half of the electron rest mass energy.
Do you know what any of that actually means?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #352 on: 11/12/2021 22:22:26 »
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Do you know what any of that actually means?
Any of that actually means that I'm right.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/354680417_Schwinger_effect_in_the_gravitational_field

Because: the static electric field in the semiconductor model shows that the real path of the particle / antiparticle pair corresponds to the quantum vacuum fluctuation through the Dirac sea towards the gravitational field of the black hole.




During the oscillation of the charm quark / antiquark (D meson) between matter and antimatter, the particle is converted into a flow of energy. There are the quantum fluctuations of the vacuum, by this famous conversion of mass-energy equivalence.

Schwinger effect is an electron-positron couple created from the vacuum by an intense electric field.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #353 on: 12/12/2021 14:29:59 »
Your graph is meaningless.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #354 on: 12/12/2021 14:53:37 »
Quote from: Origin on 12/12/2021 14:29:59
Your graph is meaningless.
At least he's consistent.
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #355 on: 11/01/2022 10:30:00 »
Hi, and best for 2022.


The oscillation simulation would boil down to this one * in JavaScript code between matter and antimatter.

*https://github.com/Kartazion/anharmonic-oscillator

If you are on one side, let to say the matter on the living side of the schrödinger's cat, then you could never see the antimatter on its dead side.

Particles & antiparticles have even been seen to exist as a weird mixture of both states at the same time, thanks to the quantum quirk of superposition (illustrated most famously through the thought experiment of Schrödinger’s cat.) That means that these particles actually oscillate between being matter and antimatter. https://newatlas.com/physics/charm-meson-particle-matter-antimatter/
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #356 on: 11/01/2022 13:01:40 »
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/01/2022 10:30:00
If you are on one side, let to say the matter on the living side of the schrödinger's cat, then you could never see the antimatter on its dead side.
I thought you might have given up this nonsense and tried to learn some physics, I guess not....
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #357 on: 11/01/2022 13:35:26 »
Quote from: Origin on 11/01/2022 13:01:40
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If you are on one side, let to say the matter on the living side of the schrödinger's cat, then you could never see the antimatter on its dead side.
I thought you might have given up this nonsense and tried to learn some physics, I guess not....
Do you think that there is no connection between matter and antimatter with the Schrodinger's Cat experiment?
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Re: Unification of Quantum Mechanics and Gravitational Oscillator
« Reply #358 on: 11/01/2022 14:47:06 »
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Do you think that there is no connection between matter and antimatter with the Schrodinger's Cat experiment?
That is correct there is no connection.  You realize there is no actual experiment with a cat, right?  Do you also realize that a cat is not a quantum object so it is only alive or dead? 
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« Reply #359 on: 11/01/2022 23:04:25 »
Quote from: Origin on 11/01/2022 14:47:06
Quote from: Kartazion on 11/01/2022 13:35:26
Do you think that there is no connection between matter and antimatter with the Schrodinger's Cat experiment?
That is correct there is no connection.  You realize there is no actual experiment with a cat, right?  Do you also realize that a cat is not a quantum object so it is only alive or dead?
Yes thanks. Schrödinger's cat is a thought experiment that illustrates a paradox of quantum superposition.

If the particle is on A (alive), then it cannot be on B. But at very high frequencies the particle has almost a 50% chance of being on A and B at the same time hence the superposition. If you had to chosen at random one position between two, then you would either have the particle or no particle hence the cat experience.

How does it work? --> https://github.com/Kartazion/anharmonic-oscillator/blob/main/README.md

In Prediction ; The superposition of quantum states is at least straddling matter and antimatter before being several points only superimposed in the matter part.

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