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Are Electrons Points?

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Re: Are Electrons Points?
« Reply #20 on: 03/01/2022 10:16:45 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 03/01/2022 10:06:27
It is too small also for the classical-electron-as-sphere-model.
That is why people say things like this
Quote from: Origin on 30/12/2021 12:54:00
That would be true if an electron was a classical object but it isn't it is a quantum object. 
Why do you refuse to listen?
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Re: Are Electrons Points?
« Reply #21 on: 03/01/2022 12:43:10 »
To do the classical μ = ai calculation you need to consider it something that makes a current loop (i.e. a rotating sphere with charge on the equator).
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Re: Are Electrons Points?
« Reply #22 on: 03/01/2022 14:36:59 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 03/01/2022 12:43:10
To do the classical μ = ai calculation

Electrons aren't classical objects. They are quantum.
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Re: Are Electrons Points?
« Reply #23 on: 03/01/2022 17:38:28 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 03/01/2022 12:43:10
To do the classical μ = ai calculation you need to consider it something that makes a current loop (i.e. a rotating sphere with charge on the equator).
So, nothing like an electron then.
We already knew that.
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Re: Are Electrons Points?
« Reply #24 on: 10/01/2022 15:32:18 »
My model for particles can explain why there are neutrinos! 8)
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Re: Are Electrons Points?
« Reply #25 on: 10/01/2022 16:04:36 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 10/01/2022 15:32:18
My model for particles can explain why there are neutrinos!
No it can't!
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Re: Are Electrons Points?
« Reply #26 on: 10/01/2022 16:35:39 »
Quote from: Origin on 10/01/2022 16:04:36
No it can't!

I assure you: it can. The paper is still to be published.

I can also explain why there are three generations of particles with the same properties except for the mass.
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Re: Are Electrons Points?
« Reply #27 on: 10/01/2022 19:30:57 »
Quote from: talanum1 on 10/01/2022 16:35:39
I assure you: it can.
Your model does not work.
We already know that.
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Re: Are Electrons Points?
« Reply #28 on: 10/01/2022 21:36:35 »
Quote from: talanum1
three generations of particles with the same properties except for the mass.
That's funny, because there is a property called the gyromagnetic ratio, which is 2 for the electron, muon and tau particles.
- But there are subtle effects which means that it is slightly more than 2
- And how much more than 2 is different for the electron, muon and tau

There is some debate about the results of the g-2 experiment; what does your theory predict about the results?

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muon_g-2#Theory_of_magnetic_moments
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Re: Are Electrons Points?
« Reply #29 on: 11/01/2022 08:36:11 »
Quote from: evan_au on 10/01/2022 21:36:35
what does your theory predict about the results?

Nothing: its a classical theory. You have to add quantum effects by multiplying the magnetic moment with the g-factor.

There is however the possibility of doing the calculation because you know where the charges are located and what size they are.
« Last Edit: 11/01/2022 09:26:44 by talanum1 »
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