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Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 09/02/2007 09:27:22
I know this will involve a lot of work, but would it be possible to have a section dedicated to the kitchen science experiments?

I have an 8 year old daughter who is very keen on science experiments and running out of things for her to do, and most stuff on the web revolves around volcanoes......

Paul
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: rosy on 09/02/2007 12:58:13
Dave (daveshorts) is working on a major revamp of the website. As part of that there will be a kitchen science section.. so yes, every chance I think.
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: chris on 09/02/2007 14:32:44
Hi Paul

Rosy is spot on. There will be a dedicated section of the new site (due out next month), containing all the kitchen sciences we ever done.

Chris
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 10/02/2007 05:15:51
That's excellent, Chris. I can't wait...
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: daveshorts on 10/02/2007 17:19:34
All the ones we have ever done will probably take longer than the rest of the site, but there will certainly be lots there when the new site goes live.
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: Karen W. on 10/02/2007 17:24:15
It should be really cool.. Maybe some things geared toward my preschoolers too. YAYYYYYYYY! They love science.... and doing things that they can visually see helps them learn and remember how things work... I love it too, as I am the least scientific minded person around, so I will greatly benifit from this myself!
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 10/02/2007 19:21:30
All the ones we have ever done will probably take longer than the rest of the site, but there will certainly be lots there when the new site goes live.

I thought it would, but is one of my favourite parts of the show. Well when i get the correct answer, im not too keen on it when i'm wrong :-)
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 10/02/2007 19:24:15
It should be really cool.. Maybe some things geared toward my preschoolers too. YAYYYYYYYY! They love science...

Well, you must be a good teacher Karen. I went to a good school and science was presented in such a boring way, experiments without much emphasis on the explinations for the result. Science and Mathermatics should be the most enjoyable of all lessons.
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: neilep on 10/02/2007 20:48:10
Hurry up Dave ....you are sooooo lazy !!

We want this new site NOW !!!
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: Karen W. on 10/02/2007 21:02:54
Yes we do Sir!!! YAYYYYYY!

Paul you are right.. Hands on is a great way to learn! It is a lot of fun!
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: rosy on 10/02/2007 22:54:08
Oi! Back off guys! I want to see my bloke occasionally without the eldritch (sp??) glow of the laptop screen reflecting off his face... it doens't happen often enough as it is ;P

[Edited because I can't spell..]
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: neilep on 10/02/2007 23:44:16
Oi! Back off guys! I want to see my bloke occasionally without the eldritch (sp??) glow of the laptop screen reflecting off his face... it doens't happen often enough as it is ;P

[Edited because I can't spell..]

Surely the delinquent proletariat miscreant has oodles of time ?.....

Rosy...he has to prioritise accordingly !!......Site first !!..LOL


*me thinks La Rosy doth wish an almighty cow-pat to full upon my head*
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: Karen W. on 11/02/2007 00:21:30
Yes Rosy, Me thinks he should have a cow PAT< (PIE) americanism LOL

I'll see to it right away!!! LOL He is due for some PIE LUFF ANYWAYS......LOL LOL

  [size=06pt]( running to look for cover from incoming Cow Pie LUFF!)[/size]
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: neilep on 11/02/2007 02:02:16
 [;)]
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: Karen W. on 11/02/2007 02:09:58
NANNY NANNY NANNY GOAT!!! LOL [:P] [:P] [:P] [:P] [:P] [:P] [:P] [:P] [:P] [;D] [;D] [;D] OK OK OK already, I'll shut me trap before you have to cut the thread back to it's original integrity!!! [:o] [:o]LOL
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 11/02/2007 09:30:30
should we start a new poll, about how much quality time daveshorts should spend with his lovelly wife as opposed to his legion of fans?
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: rosy on 11/02/2007 13:00:02
If he's got a wife he hasn't told me!!
Maybe I should have asked :S

But yeah, i think the new site should be ready pretty soon.
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 11/02/2007 15:49:10
If he's got a wife he hasn't told me!!
Maybe I should have asked :S

leaves the discussion very quietly, firmly closing the door behind him....
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: chris on 11/02/2007 22:33:01
The suggested poll exists and is open for voting here:

http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6527.new#new
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: Karen W. on 12/02/2007 09:11:23
 LOL  That was the best poll I have had the pleasure of voting in... YAYYYYY for love... GO ROSY!! I truely hope you know how much we all appreciate you and Dave for all you do here on the site... It is my first , well I think its a tie second home... Thank you.. and Dave I love playing with that dog gone diagram tool LOL!!! Thanks bunches... I am thinking of it as the hands on experimentation of a diagram tool... THat Qualifies for science eh?? LOL
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 21/02/2007 22:13:49
KITCHEN SCIENCE - Why sodium street lights make things look orange
on the 18th of february 2007.

For those of you who did this kitchen science experiment; Try repeating the experiment with a cd or dvd, try it under all colours of street lights and even neon sign displays. oh, go on...

Paul
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: daveshorts on 22/02/2007 10:56:38
That is a really nice idea.
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 22/02/2007 11:50:40
Thanks, Dave.

I should have mentioned that it should be a blank disc, and not one that has data on it.

Paul
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: daveshorts on 22/02/2007 13:19:55
Does this make a significant difference?
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 22/02/2007 13:26:41
I have only tried it with a blank disc, and my thinking is that the blank CD or DVD is smooth as opposed to the one that has data written on it which has all of those peeks and troths.

Then again you could use a blank and a non-blank disc and compare the two results

Paul
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 23/02/2007 01:33:14
I have now tried it with both blank and written discs, and there is no difference.

Paul
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: Karen W. on 28/03/2007 07:09:54
I just nooked a unwritten music cd and set timer for 5 seconds and watched a brillant teal blue green sparkle show which was quite lovely. It would have been nice if the sparks were higher then 1 inch up off the CD, but they were lovely anyway. It left a circular pattern on me CD that resembled a brick wall on both sides. almost reminds me of old antique paint that is crackled ! What causes this to spark like that is there some small amount of metal on a CD or what?
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 28/03/2007 09:58:22
karen,

whilst you wait for an answer, why not post it as an experiment here: http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6730.0
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: Karen W. on 28/03/2007 10:27:46
Something else I noticed, It smelled slightly not during but when I opened the door for about 15 minutes or so. Just a slight smell, not strong! Is that odor safe or can that be something you shouldn't breath?
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 30/03/2007 11:48:58
I just nooked a unwritten music cd and set timer for 5 seconds and watched a brillant teal blue green sparkle show which was quite lovely. It would have been nice if the sparks were higher then 1 inch up off the CD, but they were lovely anyway. It left a circular pattern on me CD that resembled a brick wall on both sides. almost reminds me of old antique paint that is crackled ! What causes this to spark like that is there some small amount of metal on a CD or what?

Karen, was in an regular cd or a re-writable one? you could try doing it again with another disc of the same type and see if the pattern burned into the disc is the same.

as for the smell when you opened the door. best not to breath too much of it in, just leave the microwave to vent for 15 minutes afterward.
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: daveshorts on 30/03/2007 12:39:59
Either type of disk has a thin layer of aluminium in the middle of it. In a conventional CD the data is stored by making pits in this which alter how the light reflects, and in a rewritable one it is done with a layer of a dye above this.

When you put a CD in the microwave, the microwaves induce very large currents to flow in this aluminium layer, the currents are so high that it starts to heat up and change shape. This tends to make it crack up, when a crack forms suddenly the currents often will jump the gap through the insulator/air as a spark. Once a crack forms the currents will tend to go in different routes heating up different bits of aluminium and causing them to crack. This goes on until the pieces of aluminium are too small to build up large currents so it stops cracking, and just gets hot.
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: Karen W. on 30/03/2007 17:02:54
Pa
I just nooked a unwritten music cd and set timer for 5 seconds and watched a brillant teal blue green sparkle show which was quite lovely. It would have been nice if the sparks were higher then 1 inch up off the CD, but they were lovely anyway. It left a circular pattern on me CD that resembled a brick wall on both sides. almost reminds me of old antique paint that is crackled ! What causes this to spark like that is there some small amount of metal on a CD or what?

Karen, was in an regular cd or a re-writable one? you could try doing it again with another disc of the same type and see if the pattern burned into the disc is the same.

as for the smell when you opened the door. best not to breath too much of it in, just leave the microwave to vent for 15 minutes afterward.

Paul it was a regular Staples brand CD-R recordable. 80 minutes 700 MB, 52X, 1x - 52x compatable! I did two of them to see if the pattern was the same. Yes indeed it was ! Same pattern both cds, back and front, They will make charming coasters for a wedding...centerpeice LOL maybe a small Goldyfish bowl on top!! LOL!

Yes, the smell was mild but stunk and I opened my kitchen window and let it air out! wasn't too bad!
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 31/03/2007 04:40:57
nice, i asked the question purely so you could repeat the experiment and see what you got the second time. You would have got a similar pattern. i find it good to do things twice and compare the results, plus you now have two coasters and not one all alone and sad.

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi154.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fs262%2Fpf0604%2Fmicrowavecd.jpg&hash=193fc1609e385b5920499af8c5ad2afa)
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: Karen W. on 31/03/2007 05:03:30
Yes I do belive that is the pattern on my pair of new coasters! LOL Yours looks more colorful then mine!
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 11/04/2007 20:03:49
Dave, have you not thought of "doing a chris" and publishing you own book?
kitchen science, by dave ansall (is that the right spelling)

think of all the lovely shoes rosy could buy with the money!
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: daveshorts on 25/04/2007 10:28:36
We will see - although if it made enough money for Rosy to buy all the shoes she wants to buy, it would only have to sell about 2 copies - all the shoes she needs would probably need a couple of hundred.
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 26/04/2007 16:27:28
 [;D]
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: daveshorts on 26/04/2007 17:30:24
( this is in response that all the shoes she does own are falling apart, and we have to keep going to her parents house in order to root out others which still have soles attached )
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: rosy on 26/04/2007 17:32:27
It's not true! None of the shoes I own are falling apart... I threw away the ones that were. Well, most of them, anyway...
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: paul.fr on 26/04/2007 19:10:54
Why do girls think shoes are falling apart, when they have only been worn twice? Looks like you may have to write a second book, Dave.
Title: Kitchen Science
Post by: rosy on 26/04/2007 21:13:36
We-ell, whilst one of the pairs of shoes I threw away at the weekend were only 6 months old, I wore them for work every day for 4 months... and the others were almost 10 years old, were my school shoes for two years and were the old-but-tough shoes I wore when I didn't want to damage my other shoes ever since. Tho' the latter were infact probably officially boys shoes.

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