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Life Sciences => Plant Sciences, Zoology & Evolution => Topic started by: neilep on 28/09/2010 16:33:42

Title: Why The Thin Waist In These Turtles Don ?
Post by: neilep on 28/09/2010 16:33:42
Dearest Testudine-ologists (ie DON_1)

As a sheepy i of course have a lovely waist.....models and celebreties from all over the world email me, phone me...even bed me to get my secret to my palatable waistline..... and can ewe blame them ?...I mean look at me ....I'm gorgeous !!!


But take a look at Gerald and Heather here...


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Gerald & Heather Here *Le thin waist*


Being delivered next Tuesday for some TLC and fattening up !!


..they seem to have taken my advice too far !...or is there something not quite right with these two ?


What's Wrong With These Turtles Waistlines ?..Is it normal ?


I think not !!

...Can it be fixed ?

Hugs & shmishes


mwah mwah mwah !



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Title: Why The Thin Waist In These Turtles Don ?
Post by: Don_1 on 28/09/2010 21:44:46
That's awful, those poor turtles.

Its hard to tell what species they are, but I think the one on the left is a North American Red Ear Slider.

The deformity has been caused by a long period of constriction and the culprit was probably one of these:
(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F0%2F09%2FSix_pack_rings.JPG%2F220px-Six_pack_rings.JPG&hash=6252a74d324904904f2206fcebf5bcbb)

Carelessly discarded litter can cause many problems for wildlife and this is a good example of the consequences.

Here is a similar case with the plastic six pack ring still in position:

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fconservationreport.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F04%2Fmae-west-turtle-plastic-ring.jpg%3Fw%3D375%26amp%3Bh%3D278&hash=53a2bc616fb3fe0d08a1c20988854966)
Picture from  The Conservation Report (http://conservationreport.com/about/)

Take a look at this Snapping Turtle also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-1lF-sRc3M&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-1lF-sRc3M&feature=player_embedded)

Unfortunately, this cannot be put right. These turtles will remain like this for life.
Title: Why The Thin Waist In These Turtles Don ?
Post by: tommya300 on 29/09/2010 05:00:21
sure wish I could maintain a waist line for life.
Mine works the other way around... Bulge
Title: Why The Thin Waist In These Turtles Don ?
Post by: neilep on 29/09/2010 05:35:42
That's awful, those poor turtles.

Its hard to tell what species they are, but I think the one on the left is a North American Red Ear Slider.

The deformity has been caused by a long period of constriction and the culprit was probably one of these:
(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F0%2F09%2FSix_pack_rings.JPG%2F220px-Six_pack_rings.JPG&hash=6252a74d324904904f2206fcebf5bcbb)

Carelessly discarded litter can cause many problems for wildlife and this is a good example of the consequences.

Here is a similar case with the plastic six pack ring still in position:

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fconservationreport.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F04%2Fmae-west-turtle-plastic-ring.jpg%3Fw%3D375%26amp%3Bh%3D278&hash=53a2bc616fb3fe0d08a1c20988854966)
Picture from  The Conservation Report (http://conservationreport.com/about/)

Take a look at this Snapping Turtle also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-1lF-sRc3M&feature=player_embedded (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-1lF-sRc3M&feature=player_embedded)

Unfortunately, this cannot be put right. These turtles will remain like this for life.


Thanks Don....ewe know...I had a sneaking suspicion it was due to something like that but the photograph came with no explanation.

Do you think they carry on a normal life else are their vital  internal organs in that area that deleteriously constricted too ?....in other words is it better when they are like this to be cruel to be kind ? if ewe understand my meaning !
Title: Why The Thin Waist In These Turtles Don ?
Post by: tommya300 on 29/09/2010 06:53:11
wish I could hve held a permanent waist line...
Instead it is the Battle of the Bulge.
Title: Why The Thin Waist In These Turtles Don ?
Post by: Don_1 on 29/09/2010 11:47:42
In testudines, the abdominal region is in the lower part of the shell and the thoracic in the upper domed region of the shell. They do not have a diaphragm. These growth constrictions therefore cause damage to the entire system, restricting breathing, circulation and digestion.

The mere fact that a few are found must mean there would be other animals which suffer in this way, but vital organs damaged by the constriction cause an early demise.

We cannot know the level of their suffering and discomfort, but I think it safe to assume that it must be great. They are, I think, bound to meet with an early demise. Since shell deformity does not correct itself, it can only be assumed that the problems worsen as the animal grows. The heavier the animal gets, the more stress will be put on the backbone and the weakened shell. I would not like to see an animal suffer in such a way. I would prefer to administer a painless, quick end.
Title: Why The Thin Waist In These Turtles Don ?
Post by: Don_1 on 29/09/2010 13:33:06
Here's another turtle suffering from the same human carelessness or neglect (whichever you you want to call it).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln7_m8Msrgc&feature=player_embedded#! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln7_m8Msrgc&feature=player_embedded#!)