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Re: Big Bang Theory - How the BBT really works?
« Reply #1820 on: 23/09/2021 23:09:15 »
Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
In a real science world, theory D works perfectly without any change.
In the real world it is impossible because it breaks the  conservation laws.
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Re: Big Bang Theory - How the BBT really works?
« Reply #1821 on: 24/09/2021 00:03:12 »
Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
Well, I still think that the BBT is nonsense and that Plank Epoch is just imagination.

So then you're lying to us when you say that Theory D uses the Planck epoch. I don't have to say anything more then. At this point, I could probably just lock the thread because you just admitted that you are being ridiculous on purpose.

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
However, as you don't let me work with the real energy as VE

I'm not the one who is stopping you from using it. It's that you have no plausible mechanism that allows you to use it.

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
then I had been forced to use your BBT wagon in order to get that requested first BH.

I don't have a BBT wagon.

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
As long as our scientists claim that the BBT is correct, then I can use that Planck epoch idea.

Not if you don't explain how it happened. Otherwise, you are breaking your own rules on purpose and thus intentionally contradicting yourself. I would consider that spam. Spam is against our rules here.

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
Based on the BBT the universe started as a Planck point.

No, it didn't.

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
So, "my" universe can start as a finite universe at the infinite time ago and end today with infinite Universe.

So you're changing your mind yet again. Did the Universe start off as infinite or finite?

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
Sorry, you didn't offer any real data to prove that the energy at the Planck epoch is infinite.

It's only infinite if the Universe starts out with an infinite size (which you seem to have changed your mind about).

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
Therefore, if you wish to keep your BBT alive

I don't. Just how many times have I repeated that the Big Bang theory is in the garbage?

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
Correct.

So you just admitted that you aren't doing science. This is a science website. I'll add that to the list of reasons why I can lock this thread.

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
I have to use your rule about the space expansion,

I have no such rule.

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
So, it isn't about science any more.

Then this thread has run out its usefulness (if it ever had any to begin with). On all of these grounds, I am considering locking this thread. You are admitting to being ridiculous on purpose, which makes you a troll. If you don't cut that out, then I will lock the thread. You have one post to comply.
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Re: Big Bang Theory - How the BBT really works?
« Reply #1822 on: 24/09/2021 04:44:06 »
Quote from: Kryptid on 24/09/2021 00:03:12
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Quote from: Dave Lev on Yesterday at 20:20:34
As long as our scientists claim that the BBT is correct, then I can use that Planck epoch idea.
Not if you don't explain how it happened. Otherwise, you are breaking your own rules on purpose and thus intentionally contradicting yourself. I would consider that spam. Spam is against our rules here.
Do you claim that the BBT is incorrect?
When I'm using Newton gravity formula, do I need to explain how it happened?
You have clearly told me that I can use the BBT as much as I wish.
I don't need to prove that BBT is correct and how it got its energy. This isn't my task.
As long as our scientists claim that this theory is correct and it is the Ultimate theory for the Universe - I can use it.
Quote from: Kryptid on 24/09/2021 00:03:12
I repeated that the Big Bang theory is in the garbage?
You can set it in the garbage, but I still can use it as much as I wish without breaking any law.
How can you call it spam while I'm using the BBT theory
Quote from: Kryptid on 24/09/2021 00:03:12
So then you're lying to us when you say that Theory D uses the Planck epoch.
No, I do not lie.
I can use any way to prove the starting point for theory D including the BBT.
If I believe in the BBT or not - is just my personal issue.
No one have control on my personal feeling about this theory.
We are not living in North Korea.
No one can force me to believe in the BBT before I can use any segment in that theory.
Therefore, I can use the BBT as long as the science community does not claim that it is a spam.
« Last Edit: 24/09/2021 04:53:09 by Dave Lev »
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Re: Big Bang Theory - How the BBT really works?
« Reply #1823 on: 24/09/2021 06:50:33 »
Quote from: Dave Lev on 24/09/2021 04:44:06
No, I do not lie.

Well, since you said this...

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
Well, I still think that the BBT is nonsense and that Plank Epoch is just imagination.

... then that means you are lying if you are claiming that the Planck epoch can be used for Theory D. You cannot simultaneously think something is "just imagination" and also that it "proves the starting point for Theory D". Either you believe it is correct or you don't. You admitted that you don't believe that it is correct and that the only reason that you are "using" it is an attempt to "appease" us.

Quote from: Dave Lev on 24/09/2021 04:44:06
f I believe in the BBT or not - is just my personal issue.
No one have control on my personal feeling about this theory.
We are not living in North Korea.
No one can force me to believe in the BBT before I can use any segment in that theory.

Whether or not you believe in the Big Bang theory isn't the problem. The problem is that you are trolling us by claiming Theory D uses the Planck epoch when, in fact, it doesn't (and here is the quote where you prove it doesn't):

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
In a real science world, theory D works perfectly without any change.

Quote from: Dave Lev on 24/09/2021 04:44:06
Therefore, I can use the BBT as long as the science community does not claim that it is a spam.

It's the way you are using it that is spam. You very clearly stated that you have intentionally abandoned science in this discussion:

Quote from: Dave Lev on 23/09/2021 20:20:34
Correct.
As you reject real science, I had been forced to use your own imagination science.

And since you failed to heed my warning about continuing to add spam to this thread with intentional nonsense, I'm locking it now. Feel free to go complain to the other moderators about this if you want to, but I know at least one of them already wanted to lock this thread in the past. If you start another thread about this same subject, I'll lock that one too and give you a suspension for trying to bypass the lock. You have been warned.
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