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Technology / Re: Does cold weather damage the batteries used in an EV?
« on: Yesterday at 05:21:15 »
I ran across this comment from Blair Korchinski on Qora, comparing petrol and electric cars in the Canadian cold... (he obviously likes EVs)
https://www.quora.com/If-electric-cars-are-not-good-in-extreme-cold-then-why-do-people-keep-buying-Teslas-in-Canada
Q: If electric cars are not good in extreme cold, then why do people keep buying Teslas in Canada?
A: As the owner of two gasoline-powered pick-ups and the driver of a diesel at work, questions like this always make me laugh.
In the cold an EV (Electric Vehicle) loses 40% of its capacity. In the best conditions, the very best ICE vehicle reaches 40% efficiency [loses 60%].
When it?s cold here in Canada we plug in our ICE vehicles so they will start. Double block heaters, like in my 2004 Chevrolet Silverado, suck about as much electricity as the average commute uses in an EV.
Gas mileage goes way down in the winter in ICE vehicles. Most of us warm up our cars for 10?15 minutes twice a day. The engines don?t run as efficiently, so even warmed up fuel mileage suffers. Then there are problems with fuel lines freezing, cars not starting. Then there?s extra wear and tear caused by thick oil not lubricating properly until the oil warms up. Catalytic converters don?t get hot enough to do their jobs, so we pollute even more.
Diesels, well diesels suck in the cold. The fuel doesn?t atomize properly, the batteries get so weak they won?t run the glow plugs or engine heater, and in the bad cold, the fuel gels up. DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) tanks freeze solid and the little heater in there can?t keep up, so you get emissions alarms. The heaters don?t put out enough heat, you have to leave them idling for extended periods. Stop for fuel and the damned pumps freeze up so it takes forever to fill the tanks.
Go to an area where there are lots of diesels when it?s -30 ?C and you can smell the half-burnt diesel in the air. That?s how inefficient they become in the cold.
All of that is just an average winter day for guys like me. We?re so used to it, we barely think about it as we stand out there in the cold with our booster cables.
So the question shouldn?t be why we buy EVs, but why we don?t buy more of them. The modern technology makes way more sense here than ICE vehicles do.
https://www.quora.com/If-electric-cars-are-not-good-in-extreme-cold-then-why-do-people-keep-buying-Teslas-in-Canada
Q: If electric cars are not good in extreme cold, then why do people keep buying Teslas in Canada?
A: As the owner of two gasoline-powered pick-ups and the driver of a diesel at work, questions like this always make me laugh.
In the cold an EV (Electric Vehicle) loses 40% of its capacity. In the best conditions, the very best ICE vehicle reaches 40% efficiency [loses 60%].
When it?s cold here in Canada we plug in our ICE vehicles so they will start. Double block heaters, like in my 2004 Chevrolet Silverado, suck about as much electricity as the average commute uses in an EV.
Gas mileage goes way down in the winter in ICE vehicles. Most of us warm up our cars for 10?15 minutes twice a day. The engines don?t run as efficiently, so even warmed up fuel mileage suffers. Then there are problems with fuel lines freezing, cars not starting. Then there?s extra wear and tear caused by thick oil not lubricating properly until the oil warms up. Catalytic converters don?t get hot enough to do their jobs, so we pollute even more.
Diesels, well diesels suck in the cold. The fuel doesn?t atomize properly, the batteries get so weak they won?t run the glow plugs or engine heater, and in the bad cold, the fuel gels up. DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) tanks freeze solid and the little heater in there can?t keep up, so you get emissions alarms. The heaters don?t put out enough heat, you have to leave them idling for extended periods. Stop for fuel and the damned pumps freeze up so it takes forever to fill the tanks.
Go to an area where there are lots of diesels when it?s -30 ?C and you can smell the half-burnt diesel in the air. That?s how inefficient they become in the cold.
All of that is just an average winter day for guys like me. We?re so used to it, we barely think about it as we stand out there in the cold with our booster cables.
So the question shouldn?t be why we buy EVs, but why we don?t buy more of them. The modern technology makes way more sense here than ICE vehicles do.