Post by: neilep on 27/08/2007 21:14:28
This is Heather:
cow_400.jpg (65.8 kB . 352x264 - viewed 3844 times)Nice isn't she ?....notice how cow shape and non steak-like she is looking.
She's showing a bit of tongue because she's just found out that today she becomes Minced Beef !!
How long would Heather live if left to live a full cow life ?
I can't remember the last time I saw a feral/wild cow !!
Post by: DoctorBeaver on 27/08/2007 22:47:45
Post by: neilep on 27/08/2007 22:58:13
Post by: WylieE on 28/08/2007 00:02:23
I know dairy cows can produce milk for about 12 years.
This site says cows can live about 22 years.
http://sonic.net/~petdoc/lifespan.htm
Carp- 100 years- gives a whole new meaning to carpe diem!
Colleen
Post by: neilep on 28/08/2007 00:30:10
Hey Neil,
I know dairy cows can produce milk for about 12 years.
This site says cows can live about 22 years.
http://sonic.net/~petdoc/lifespan.htm
Carp- 100 years- gives a whole new meaning to carpe diem!
Colleen
Hi Colleen...YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!
Where have ewe been ?
Anyway..I am so glad to see you back here today !!
THANK YOU for the excellent info and the wonderful reference !!
Carpe diem indeed !!
hugs the Wylie
Post by: JimBob on 28/08/2007 22:04:23
I think I would pass on Heather meatballs. She is a nice girl (bird). Besides it is illegal.
Post by: Karen W. on 28/08/2007 22:25:28
Post by: paul.fr on 29/08/2007 22:08:37
Hey Neil,
I know dairy cows can produce milk for about 12 years.
This site says cows can live about 22 years.
are you serious? pull the udder one, Colleen...........sorry, but i had to before the beaver beat me to it.
Post by: JimBob on 30/08/2007 04:00:40
"How Long Would Heather Live If Not Turned Into Meatballs?"
I think I would pass on Heather meatballs. She is a nice girl (bird). Besides it is illegal.
Karen, you missed another one.
Post by: Karen W. on 30/08/2007 04:17:53
Post by: Karen W. on 30/08/2007 13:41:54
Post by: JimBob on 01/09/2007 01:19:54
Post by: neilep on 01/09/2007 01:54:01
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Post by: Karen W. on 05/09/2007 20:54:00
Post by: Karen W. on 05/09/2007 20:54:53
Cannibalization of Heather the girl (chick, bird, etc) I can draw a diagram and flow chart if needed.
Carry On Me thinks me needs diagram and flow chat! LOL
Post by: Karen W. on 05/09/2007 20:56:49
Heather...as she is today !
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Those look scrumptious... Me loves spagetti and meatballs! YUMMMY
Poor little Girlie!
Post by: WylieE on 06/09/2007 07:29:16
I guess the ladies would have no beef with that. With so much at steak its probably rare that they ruminate on it much anyway.
Hey, if you've herd too much, don't have a cow! Besides, Paul started it, I just had to steer it in the right direction. Ok, I'll quit and let y'all mooove on to greener pastures.
Colleen
Sorry Y'all, I had to milk it for what I could
Really, I'm just grazing the surface of the cow puns.
Post by: Karen W. on 06/09/2007 08:22:53
Post by: paul.fr on 06/09/2007 13:46:01
if you've herd too much, don't have a cow! Besides, Paul started it
well burger me, i always get the blame. Just because i ruffled a few feathers, but that's ok, i have a thick hide, and will not get in to a leather over it.
Ofcourse, there are the health scares associated with meat. But i would need some per-suede-ing about those.
errr, that's it. Colleen used all the good ones.
Post by: neilep on 06/09/2007 14:52:17
Post by: Karen W. on 08/11/2007 11:43:33
Post by: Karen W. on 08/11/2007 11:44:14
Dear Bovine Beefburger Eaters,
This is Heather:
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Nice isn't she ?....notice how cow shape and non steak-like she is looking.
She's showing a bit of tongue because she's just found out that today she becomes Minced Beef !!
How long would Heather live if left to live a full cow life ?
I can't remember the last time I saw a feral/wild cow !!
This is the greatest picture!
Post by: SquarishTriangle on 12/11/2007 14:02:45
But potentially yes, Heather could reach 20 or so.
Old age comes with its own problems (as you may have noticed)...tumours, neurodegenative problems, decreased reproductive ability, decreased lactation (for both calf and production), the list goes on...
Dairy cattle aren't actually excluded from meat production. About 60 percent of dairy cattle end up (in some form) on our dinner plates.
Hmm...only eating the bulls seems peculiar. Doesn't that mean the beef industry is only operating up to a maximum 50 percent efficiency?
Post by: Karen W. on 12/11/2007 17:52:46
Post by: SquarishTriangle on 13/11/2007 01:37:28
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“Does the ‘quality’ of cow and bull beef from dairy cattle really matter since cows and bulls are made into ground beef?” The answer is simple – YES! Quality matters because not all cow beef is manufactured into ground beef. Yes, approximately 56% of a cow or bull carcass is utilized as trimmings and some of those trimmings will be used to produce ground beef. However, 44 % of each cow and bull carcass, according to the 1999 National Market Cow and Bull Beef Quality Audit (NMCBBQA-1999; Roeber et al., 2000a), will be utilized as whole muscle cuts and/or 100% visual lean product to provide steaks and roasts.
Roeber DL. Meat quality and dairy veterinary practice. Proceedings of the Minnesota Dairy Health Conference. College of Veterinary Medicine. University of Minnesota. May 2003.
Here we generally castrate the male dairy calves and grow them up into bull beef...and then slaughter them.
I suppose they would probably package the colostrum up and sell that as well, if they weren't letting the calves have it. What do you do with your rescued calves (...after they grow up) Karen? I assume you have a big paddock for them. Hand-reared male dairy calves are the most aggressive once they start to grow up a bit...I'll put my hand up for learning that the hard way. lol :)
Post by: Karen W. on 13/11/2007 09:51:12
Yes I have a couple acres for animals but they really need a lot more space... Those calves are so adorable!..
Post by: Karen W. on 13/11/2007 09:59:31
We have taken in a few because I have a really soft heart, but it takes lots more then a human mama to help them. We have failed in each attempt even with the vets intervention to try and save the calves.. They just needed more time with mom... One calf just seemed to thrive then would suddenly lapse back and be come weak.. we lost them all by about 3 weeks one at almost six, but to a larger predator we suspected a mountain lion cause he drug the little guy off and all we found were remnants... it was way sad!
Yes I have a couple acres for animals but they really need a lot more space... Those calves are so adorable!..
One I wanted to raise for beef but after my brotherin law butchered Sherman I just could not do it!
After that I was just we were just on a mission to raise them as pets... LOL.. they are really cool animals.. I have never been around real aggressive bulls although I have seen them.. our experience with my daughter working on the dairy , we were exposed to heffers and cows mostly.. She did however do lots of artificial insemination so we rarely seen a bull. They take them at 1 day old for slaughter.. unless you try to save one... The vet said our biggest problem was getting the calves enough collestrum filled milk to provide them with antibodies they needed to survive! And it was not possible each time to get enough.. even with the fortified special milk from the vet we failed it was very depressing and sad!
Post by: SquarishTriangle on 13/11/2007 10:11:32
Post by: Karen W. on 14/11/2007 00:34:12
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on 21/12/2018 06:56:04
Carp- 100 years- gives a whole new meaning to carpe diem!What is "carpe diem"?
Post by: Ophiolite on 25/12/2018 02:26:10
Seize the day.Carp- 100 years- gives a whole new meaning to carpe diem!What is "carpe diem"?
Note: since, before your post, this thread was last active in 2007 we appear to have an example of (very well) aged beef.
Post by: evan_au on 25/12/2018 19:55:38
Quote from: Monox D. I-Fly
What is "carpe diem"?It is a Latin phrase from the poet Horace around 23BC.
- A modern translation might be "YOLO".
- I first became aware of the phrase from the film "Dead Poet's Society" (1989), starring Robin Williams
- It was also used by the US poet Walt Whitman (who seems relatively unknown outside North America...)
See: https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/text/carpe-diem-poems-making-most-time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_diem
Post by: alancalverd on 25/12/2018 22:52:47
Post by: Monox D. I-Fly on 04/01/2019 01:47:11
So, in other words, "live your day to its fullest"?Quote from: Monox D. I-FlyWhat is "carpe diem"?It is a Latin phrase from the poet Horace around 23BC.
- A modern translation might be "YOLO".
- I first became aware of the phrase from the film "Dead Poet's Society" (1989), starring Robin Williams
- It was also used by the US poet Walt Whitman (who seems relatively unknown outside North America...)
See: https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/text/carpe-diem-poems-making-most-time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carpe_diem