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just like to say, after i thought i was cured from pois, i was, but only for a few ejaculations. The fourth time I did it i got immediate aches and pains, the following morning was unbearable... headache, depression, very very irritable, and my whole body ached all over. It felt worse than before, but probably only because i hadn't experienced it in a while.
Quote from: goingcrazy on 22/02/2009 04:14:23just like to say, after i thought i was cured from pois, i was, but only for a few ejaculations. The fourth time I did it i got immediate aches and pains, the following morning was unbearable... headache, depression, very very irritable, and my whole body ached all over. It felt worse than before, but probably only because i hadn't experienced it in a while.Sometimes I don't get symptoms after ejaculation. (very rare these days). And sometimes ejaculation actually alleviates my symptoms. I think Guthrie noticed this too.
yes, it's very weird, I guess it is just how your body handles it or... each ejaculation is different!?
Quote from: goingcrazy on 22/02/2009 04:27:35yes, it's very weird, I guess it is just how your body handles it or... each ejaculation is different!?Guthrie wrote a great post about it here: http://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/index.php?topic=6576.msg215420#msg215420
just like to say, after i thought i was cured from pois, i was, but only for a few ejaculations. The fourth time I did it i got immediate aches and pains, the following morning was unbearable... headache, depression, anxiety, extreme dysphoria, very very irritable, and my whole body ached all over. It felt worse than before, but probably only because i hadn't experienced it in a while.
Quote from: CCconfucius on 22/02/2009 03:11:35test resultcortisol - 6.1 3 - 22.4estrogen - 55 40 - 115free testoronedhea 878 208 - 771prolactin 6.24 2.64- 13.13i still dont agree with test untill i take in full pois. I was just wondering does endocrinologist test these same chemicalsCC, you have every right to request that the endocrinologist test these exact same chemicals/hormones in-POIS.
test resultcortisol - 6.1 3 - 22.4estrogen - 55 40 - 115free testoronedhea 878 208 - 771prolactin 6.24 2.64- 13.13i still dont agree with test untill i take in full pois. I was just wondering does endocrinologist test these same chemicals
Quote from: goingcrazy on 22/02/2009 04:14:23just like to say, after i thought i was cured from pois, i was, but only for a few ejaculations. The fourth time I did it i got immediate aches and pains, the following morning was unbearable... headache, depression, anxiety, extreme dysphoria, very very irritable, and my whole body ached all over. It felt worse than before, but probably only because i hadn't experienced it in a while.MY experience with pois is when i ejaculate several the symptoms seem to be worse and it also takes longer to recover even after 2 day hyperness.
-It's difficult determine how much impact the thyriod medication has on the improvement as it's effect has been more gradual. But I can tell the impact of the effect from the PS as it feels like it wears off and when I take another it feels like it kicks back in.-I beleive the PS is made from soy (and from what I read PS is no longer made from brain because of scare from animal diseases like mad cow).
What is the latest news about fenugreek or relora? Anyone?
Day 2(NE yesterday morning):I felt ok yesterday but felt the effects at night, feel ok so far today but I can notice the mental shift. Recent noteworthy consumption: cooked garlic daily, choline & inositol supplementRecent exercise: moderateThis time I realize a common reaction to orgasm which I'm not sure I have mentioned before, deepening of my voice. Presumably this would be due to a testosterone increase. Could this be a clue to what is going on? Could POIS be a reaction to an abnormal jolt of testosterone at orgasm, and then it's decline in the system?
Quote from: demografx on 19/02/2009 17:33:59What is the latest news about fenugreek or relora? Anyone?I still use fenugreek, and am very pleased that it's still alleviating approximately 50% of my POIS symptoms. Recovery time has been improved from 4-5 days to 2-3 days, and the symptoms are pleasantly reduced.However, its not quite the wonderdrug that it was when I first took it. Unfortunately, I seem to quickly build up a tolerance to most kinds of drugs, and fenugreek is no exception.Still, I should be happy that I've found a useful tool against POIS! Glad to see the thread is still going strong
This is hilarious... I believe deepening of my voice occurs too, its almost like I'm a completely different person! I don't know if it actually "deepens" your voice, it might just be how bad pois feels that we don't feel like speaking normally.
Did you use raw garlic before?
Same weight Limejuice and eat like 2 pigs I don't remember if i have test my blood phosphorus.
test resultcortisol - 6.1 3 - 22.4estrogen - 55 40 - 115free testorone 19.9 dhea 878 208 - 771prolactin 6.24 2.64- 13.13i still dont agree with test untill i take in full pois. I was just wondering does endocrinologist test these same chemicals
Interesting study :Garlic Supplementation Increases Testicular Testosterone and Decreases Plasma Corticosterone in Rats Fed a High Protein Diet http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/131/8/2150