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Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 12/04/2007 15:04:44: Hi,

I'm Neil..nice to meet ewe.

So I'm driving down the A1081 (From South Mimms Roundabout to Barnet.. [;D]) and notice the field on my right is filled with this stuff !

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv286%2Fneilneil%2Fnpb_0039_screen.jpg&hash=a48ba3c32481141ccc8cab9f064485d3)

Rapeseed !..one thing I did notice was that there were ' waves ' moving across portions of the field.

Why is this ?...surely in a steady breeze or wind the plants should just bend continuously one way !!..not act like a pendulum !!

It's the same with trees and plants in my garden...I can feel the that it's a steady breeze but the plants clearly move back and forth ..

me don't get it !...but I want to get it !!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 12/04/2007 15:10:47: Wow Neil, I can see why you're famous for starting threads [:P]

I thought that this "Pendulum" movement was quite obvious. Obviously, like the fact, what goes up, must come down.. What goes to the right, must go back left?

The winds are applying forces on the leaves, stems etc. Then the winds temporarily stop, as the wind doesn't always blow at the same speed, constantly. At this time, the stems/leaves reuse the energy which the wind gave to go back upright, and not at an angle, or sometimes more than upright, and like a pendulum, to the other side again.

Then the wind strikes again, and the stem moves due to the wind. I think this process carries on repeating again, and again, and again.

I hope that helps, although I'm not sure if the explanation is correct. Anyone feel free to help meh out, like George, who is an expert at this [:)]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 12/04/2007 15:14:28: HUmmm that is interesting, I know what you mean i have seen that when the wind was blowing to, but I never thought about why it was blowing more then one direction!..good question.. I need to pay more attention to what it feels like when I notice that. I have also seen the same things happen to the clothes and sheets on my clothesline also as they hung in the wind. usually the wind was slightly more then just a slight breeze on those days with the laundry! It was pretty windy!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 12/04/2007 15:16:25: Wow You may be right because that sort of makes sense! LOL
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 12/04/2007 15:25:38: Quote from: Seany on 12/04/2007 15:10:47
Wow Neil, I can see why you're famous for starting threads [:P]

I thought that this "Pendulum" movement was quite obvious. Obviously, like the fact, what goes up, must come down.. What goes to the right, must go back left?

The winds are applying forces on the leaves, stems etc. Then the winds temporarily stop, as the wind doesn't always blow at the same speed, constantly. At this time, the stems/leaves reuse the energy which the wind gave to go back upright, and not at an angle, or sometimes more than upright, and like a pendulum, to the other side again.

Then the wind strikes again, and the stem moves due to the wind. I think this process carries on repeating again, and again, and again.

I hope that helps, although I'm not sure if the explanation is correct. Anyone feel free to help meh out, like George, who is an expert at this [:)]

THANKS SEANY,

I have stood in the middle of one of these fields (yes me has)..and watched as the plants move back and forth but all the while the breeze upon my face has been constant !..

Though..your explanation seems very reasonable !!..wow..what a bright lad !!..*paths the seany on the head*..

It will be nice to get a definitive answer though...

hmmmmmmm.....I am beginning to wonder if it's due to inconsistencies in the plants themselves in conjunction with what you have said !!..ie: they are not uniform in shape and size...
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 12/04/2007 15:26:22: Quote from: Karen W. on 12/04/2007 15:16:25
Wow You may be right because that sort of makes sense! LOL

Lol, I'm not sure about making sense for the plant one.. But for the washing line, it makes more sense in that perspective. Anyway, if the wind stops blowing in the clothes in the washing line thing, then gravity acts on it, so it must come straight down anyway, but doesn't give the "pendulum" movement. Just a straight down movement. But I think the energy is "rebounding" and using it to come bouncing back like a pendulum again.
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 12/04/2007 15:27:27: Quote from: neilep on 12/04/2007 15:25:38
hmmmmmmm.....I am beginning to wonder if it's due to inconsistencies in the plants themselves in conjunction with what you have said !!..ie: they are not uniform in shape and size...

Hmm.. What affect would the inconsistences have?
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 12/04/2007 15:27:35: Quote from: Karen W. on 12/04/2007 15:14:28
HUmmm that is interesting, I know what you mean i have seen that when the wind was blowing to, but I never thought about why it was blowing mor then one direction!..good question.. I need to pay more attention to what it feels like when I notice that. I have also seen the same thhings happen to the clothes and sheets on my clothesline also as the y hung in the wwind. usually the wind was slightl more then just a slight breeze on those days with the laundry!It was prety windy!

THANKS KARENY....lets hope a ' wind-across-fields' expert answers.
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 12/04/2007 15:29:14: Quote from: Seany on 12/04/2007 15:27:27
Quote from: neilep on 12/04/2007 15:25:38
hmmmmmmm.....I am beginning to wonder if it's due to inconsistencies in the plants themselves in conjunction with what you have said !!..ie: they are not uniform in shape and size...

Hmm.. What affect would the inconsistences have?

In that because they are not all the same size and shape that there will be cracks are gaps in the plants that serve to ' relax ' the pressure that the wind has acting upon them
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 12/04/2007 16:28:20: Quote from: neilep on 12/04/2007 15:27:35
Quote from: Karen W. on 12/04/2007 15:14:28
HUmmm that is interesting, I know what you mean i have seen that when the wind was blowing to, but I never thought about why it was blowing mor then one direction!..good question.. I need to pay more attention to what it feels like when I notice that. I have also seen the same thhings happen to the clothes and sheets on my clothesline also as the y hung in the wwind. usually the wind was slightl more then just a slight breeze on those days with the laundry!It was prety windy!

THANKS KARENY....lets hope a ' wind-across-fields' expert answers.

Hope so Neily.. It was a very good question!!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 12/04/2007 16:32:34: Well, both of you being a "Too much free time level member".. You would just think of those good and annoying questions which are merely impossible to answer wouldnt you?

After all, all the famous people like Socrates, thought of these weird and unsolvable questions because they had nothing better to do! [:0]

Haha, hope you get some good answers Neil! [:D]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 12/04/2007 16:40:22: OH i don't think they are impossible to answer but may take some thiking at least on my Part LOL..

BTW Neil What is that rapeseed I have never seen it before? Does it have a pleasant smell. or a dandyliony stinky plant kind of smell???LOL
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 12/04/2007 16:49:51: HEE HEE HEE.. MAkes me want to lie down in it and make tunnels and look for little crawly creatures..Hee hee.whittle bugs etc.. Brings back feelings of being about 7 years old and I packed my suitcase and ran away down the road cause my mom was gone and just my step dad was there..I had this tiny little white suitcase and I put my pajamas and a bunch of chocolate chips and some peanut butter and jelly sandwhiches in it and snuck out the back door, suitcase coat on and my baby doll in the other hand with her blankie! I ran down the road and around the corner and entered a field fuull of wild mustard pink white and yellow very tall and thick with that tall wavy wheat like grass mixed in.. I remember laying there for all day .upset.. Then around 10:00 in the evening I saw my moms car headlights.. I waited to make sure it was her, then I ran back down the road and snuck in the back door and hid my suitcase, but left it full for thew next time!!! I remember looking at all the little crawlies that day and loving the freedom I felt lying in that tall grass with all the wild mustard and crawlie bugs and caterpillars! LOL
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 12/04/2007 17:07:50: Lol, Karen.. Make a crop circle in it, and I'll take some pictures and visit ya! [:D]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 13/04/2007 05:00:59: LOL.. I would love to see it again, but they plowed it under and built on it.. Now it is someones garden area and house and big huge garage etc, etc, etc! LOL That would have been fun..LOL I loved crawling through the big tall grass and rolling in it was greater fun yet.. I would love to fall down in a big area of grass and roll around in it till I was lost forever! LOL
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 14/04/2007 01:28:35: Yes.. I can see the resemblance between you and Neil [;D]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 14/04/2007 03:29:15: Quote from: Seany on 14/04/2007 01:28:35
Yes.. I can see the resemblance between you and Neil [;D]

LOL..OOOH So you think we look like each other ...LOL interesting thats not fair who told you my hair was thining!!! LOL I have more then Neil!! LOL.. SO THERE!!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 14/04/2007 23:01:08: LOL! I have never seen a picture of Neil, so who knows! [;D]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 14/04/2007 23:14:23: LOL...You would have to dig deep in the archives... LOL
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 14/04/2007 23:16:32: Hmmmmmmmmm.. Any link? [;D]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 14/04/2007 23:49:34: Quote from: Karen W. on 14/04/2007 03:29:15
Quote from: Seany on 14/04/2007 01:28:35
Yes.. I can see the resemblance between you and Neil [;D]

LOL..OOOH So you think we look like each other ...LOL interesting thats not fair who told you my hair was thining!!! LOL I have more then Neil!! LOL.. SO THERE!!

My boobs are bigger and Karens got a hairier chest !!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 14/04/2007 23:50:54: I drove past the fields again today....I almost stopped and took a photo but I was in a line of traffic...they look fantastic !!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 14/04/2007 23:51:28: x) Next thing you know, Karen has got a sausage and two brussel sprouts. ! [::)]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 00:15:07: Quote from: neilep on 14/04/2007 23:49:34
Quote from: Karen W. on 14/04/2007 03:29:15
Quote from: Seany on 14/04/2007 01:28:35
Yes.. I can see the resemblance between you and Neil [;D]

LOL..OOOH So you think we look like each other ...LOL interesting thats not fair who told you my hair was thining!!! LOL I have more then Neil!! LOL.. SO THERE!!

My boobs are bigger and Karens got a hairier chest !!

NO fair Neily! You swore you would never tell all my secrets!!! LOL well Then I guess I have nothing to hide anymore!! Here see for yourself...

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb73%2Fkarenw44%2Fimagesgorillaluff.jpg&hash=1bee878455e90c5c48e9c59fdbc96962)

NOW, shall I tell you about me old friend LOL... LOL!!!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 00:16:45: Quote from: neilep on 14/04/2007 23:50:54
I drove past the fields again today....I almost stopped and took a photo but I was in a line of traffic...they look fantastic !!

I really would like to see that! I bet it was really beautiful...
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 00:19:12: Now I have no dignity left at all you have seen the real me !!

( Hangs head in shame and leaves forum.. to go back to the jungle where she belongs..) LOL
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 15/04/2007 01:17:36: Haha lol. [;D]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 01:32:47: Well How did you like me hairy chest and me big jolly belly!! LOL
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 15/04/2007 01:38:21: Intriguing [;D]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 02:30:10: Good boy!! LOL
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 15/04/2007 02:53:38: Quote from: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 00:15:07
Quote from: neilep on 14/04/2007 23:49:34
Quote from: Karen W. on 14/04/2007 03:29:15
Quote from: Seany on 14/04/2007 01:28:35
Yes.. I can see the resemblance between you and Neil [;D]

LOL..OOOH So you think we look like each other ...LOL interesting thats not fair who told you my hair was thining!!! LOL I have more then Neil!! LOL.. SO THERE!!

My boobs are bigger and Karens got a hairier chest !!

NO fair Neily you swore you would never tell all my secrets!!! LOL well THen I guess I have nothing to hide anymore!! Here see for yourself...

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb73%2Fkarenw44%2Fimagesgorillaluff.jpg&hash=1bee878455e90c5c48e9c59fdbc96962)

NOw shall I tell you about me old friend LOL LOL!!!

LOL...Kareny !!!!.....I think ewe look luffly !!..I certainly would not want to argue with ewe Kareny mam,,LOL
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 15/04/2007 02:56:08: Quote from: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 00:16:45
Quote from: neilep on 14/04/2007 23:50:54
I drove past the fields again today....I almost stopped and took a photo but I was in a line of traffic...they look fantastic !!

I really would like to see that! I bet it was really beautiful...

I shall be driving past there again on Monday !!..hmmm..it'll be early evening though...the light will not be so bright...but..if I can stop..I will........ and take some piccys !!. but it does look very much like the piccy at the front of the thread.....though the sky is well not as blue !!!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 03:12:58: Quote from: neilep on 15/04/2007 02:53:38
Quote from: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 00:15:07
Quote from: neilep on 14/04/2007 23:49:34
Quote from: Karen W. on 14/04/2007 03:29:15
Quote from: Seany on 14/04/2007 01:28:35
Yes.. I can see the resemblance between you and Neil [;D]

LOL..OOOH So you think we look like each other ...LOL interesting thats not fair who told you my hair was thining!!! LOL I have more then Neil!! LOL.. SO THERE!!

My boobs are bigger and Karens got a hairier chest !!

NO fair Neily you swore you would never tell all my secrets!!! LOL well THen I guess I have nothing to hide anymore!! Here see for yourself...

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi17.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb73%2Fkarenw44%2Fimagesgorillaluff.jpg&hash=1bee878455e90c5c48e9c59fdbc96962)

NOw shall I tell you about me old friend LOL LOL!!!

LOL...Kareny !!!!.....I think ewe look luffly !!..I certainly would not want to argue with ewe Kareny mam,,LOL

LOL LOL LOL!! You might not fair too well in an arguement I am pretty darn..stubborn which isn't all bad...Hugs..
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 03:14:57: Quote from: neilep on 15/04/2007 02:56:08
Quote from: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 00:16:45
Quote from: neilep on 14/04/2007 23:50:54
I drove past the fields again today....I almost stopped and took a photo but I was in a line of traffic...they look fantastic !!

I really would like to see that! I bet it was really beautiful...

I shall be driving past there again on Monday !!..hmmm..it'll be early evening though...the light will not be so bright...but..if I can stop..I will........ and take some piccys !!. but it does look very much like the piccy at the front of the thread.....though the sky is well not as blue !!!

I bet it is beautiful.. I would like to see it!!! Thanks Neily..
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 03:16:28: Hey is it close by or on your way into London..
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 15/04/2007 03:50:46: Quote from: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 03:16:28
Hey is it close by or on your way into London..

It's on the way out of London...only a couple of miles away.
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 05:12:19: Quote from: neilep on 15/04/2007 03:50:46
Quote from: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 03:16:28
Hey is it close by or on your way into London..

It's on the way out of London...only a couple of miles away.

OH... on the way out eh??? Where are you off to on Monday...LOL I hope you have fun on your appointment ..LOL I would like to see if you get the pictures..LOL I bet it would be nice to roll in.. Hey smell it and tell me if it smells OK..or if it is stinky? LOL would it be pretty in a bouquet?
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 15/04/2007 11:46:06: Hmm.. At early evening, meh thinks it will be still quite blue!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 15/04/2007 14:43:38: Quote from: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 05:12:19
Quote from: neilep on 15/04/2007 03:50:46
Quote from: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 03:16:28
Hey is it close by or on your way into London..

It's on the way out of London...only a couple of miles away.

OH... on the way out eh??? Where are you off to on Monday...LOL I hope you have fun on your appointment ..LOL I would like to see if you get the pictures..LOL I bet it would be nice to roll in.. Hey smell it and tell me if it smells OK..or if it is stinky? LOL would it be pretty in a bouquet?

yes , yes you did ask me about the aroma....well, when it's blooming.it does have quite a characteristic smell....it's almost quite bitter !!...so.I would say there's very litte chance of seeing "Eau De Rapeseed" in the shops any time soon !!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 15/04/2007 14:44:37: Quote from: Seany on 15/04/2007 11:46:06
Hmm.. At early evening, meh thinks it will be still quite blue!

yep, it should be Ok..the only thing is.......... I'm gonna be amongst rush hour traffic...I doubt I'll be able to stop and take a piccy !! *le sigh*
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 15/04/2007 23:42:21: TOO BAD SIR.. Don't take chances .. you could get hurt sir!!!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 16/04/2007 02:14:41: Hmm.. Just pull that lever or handbrake or whatever. Casually open your door and walk out. Take a few pictures - by this time, there woud be lots of honking. Casually again, as if nothing happened, go back into the car and drive off. [;D]

Easy as that huh?
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 16/04/2007 03:05:53: LOL Don' you dare encourage him! LOL....
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 16/04/2007 03:06:50: Yes... Knowing Neil, he'd probably do it [;)]

Tomaeto - Tomarto

Potaeto - Potarto
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 16/04/2007 05:10:20: Tomaeto Tomarto??
potaeto- potarto??
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 23/04/2007 23:04:31: Quote from: Seany on 16/04/2007 03:06:50
Yes... Knowing Neil, he'd probably do it [;)]

Tomaeto - Tomarto

Potaeto - Potarto

Well I did it !!

here are some piccys WHILST I was driving !!...and it was night...YES..MY FLASH is that powerful !!

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv185%2Fneilep%2Frapesseed.jpg&hash=ff80ae5d77a895d98554cc222a7b2f57)

(https://www.thenakedscientists.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv185%2Fneilep%2Frapeseed2.jpg&hash=d74dd0d864056d56ad3abfce20256dc3)
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 23/04/2007 23:56:00: Great pictures Neil. [;)]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 24/04/2007 00:22:17: Quote from: Seany on 23/04/2007 23:56:00
Great pictures Neil. [;)]

Not easy to do on the A1081 and the M25 !!...and NOT recommeneded !!*

*note: this site does not condone the taking of piccys whilst driving on a public highway...it's not clever and is bad and wrong
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 24/04/2007 00:50:24: Note: You were using one hand to take the picture, thus, only one hand on the wheel. I have the right to take the pictures as evidence and take you to the police, with a fine for you. [;)]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 24/04/2007 00:58:55: Quote from: Seany on 24/04/2007 00:50:24
Note: You were using one hand to take the picture, thus, only one hand on the wheel. I have the right to take the pictures as evidence and take you to the police, with a fine for you. [;)]

it's a fair cop guvna...You got me bang to rights !!..I'll come quietly !!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Seany on 24/04/2007 01:09:01: Heehee.. Caught ya red-handed mate! [;)]
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 24/04/2007 03:01:24: Neily I am impressed!!! Nice shot whilst driving... very nice indeed!! That is quite a lovely yellow field!

How fast were you driving when you did that "Drive by shooting?" LOL Hugs.. Thanks for the piccy's Neily!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: neilep on 24/04/2007 14:32:06: Quote from: Karen W. on 24/04/2007 03:01:24
Neily I am impressed!!! Nice shot whilst driving... very nice indeed!! That is quite a lovely yellow field!

How fast were you driving when you did that "Drive by shooting?" LOL Hugs.. Thanks for the piccy's Neily!

I was doing abut 180 mph !!
Title: Fluctuating Waves in tall Grassses and Trees ....why's that then ?
Post by: Karen W. on 24/04/2007 16:18:36: LOL.. Well I bet you were a just blurr in the road!! LOL No Chance of getting caught in that shooting! LOL