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Title: Is the Sun alive? Does It have consciousness?
Post by: AlexandrKushnirtshuk on 08/11/2021 04:27:42
Physically, the Sun is a material hot object, but can It be alive and conscious? See for yourself. Two animations of the SDO (Solar Dynamics Observatory) satellite photos, which I named "The Sun is yawning" (2016.07.13-20) and "The Sun is sleeping" (2016.11.20-28). This happened on the Sun at the end of the 24th solar cycle, before the beginning of the solar minimum. And at first the Sun yawned, and then fell asleep.

(https://c.radikal.ru/c10/2111/6c/a914011c6303.gif) (https://a.radikal.ru/a03/2111/f3/77bd1a9db708.gif)

The 25th solar cycle began and the Sun woke up (2021.11.06).
The face is contented, probably got enough sleep.

(https://a.radikal.ru/a19/2111/a6/8a129bfc5b2f.gif)

Complete irradiation of the Earth by solar flares. A clear cross.

On October 28, a powerful short-time flare occurred in the southern (lower) region of the Sun. On November 2, a powerful bright long-time flare occurred in the northern (upper) region of the Sun. The outbreak on October 28 occurred at about 6 pm. The outbreak on November 2 occurred at about 6 am. Both flares occurred exactly vertically opposite the Earth. Both (lower and upper) were at the same distance from the center of the sun. Periodicity of flares - 12 hours - precise irradiation of the western and eastern hemispheres of the Earth. Thus, these two flares irradiated four hemispheres: northern, southern, western and eastern - they irradiated the Earth in a cross.

(https://a.radikal.ru/a12/2111/08/8b62a5387fa5.gif) (https://a.radikal.ru/a38/2111/49/46d0957e474f.gif)

(https://a.radikal.ru/a43/2111/fc/3ba73fa4566e.jpg)
Title: Re: Is the Sun alive? Does It have consciousness?
Post by: Kryptid on 08/11/2021 04:35:42
And this, ladies and gentlemen, is a perfect example of pareidolia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
Title: Re: Is the Sun alive? Does It have consciousness?
Post by: Bored chemist on 08/11/2021 08:56:52
Is the Sun alive? Does It have consciousness?
No.
Title: Re: Is the Sun alive? Does It have consciousness?
Post by: Origin on 08/11/2021 12:56:18
Two animations of the SDO (Solar Dynamics Observatory) satellite photos, which I named "The Sun is yawning" (2016.07.13-20) and "The Sun is sleeping" (2016.11.20-28).
This is a statement I call, "bat sh1t crazy".
Title: Re: Is the Sun alive? Does It have consciousness?
Post by: puppypower on 02/12/2021 15:50:07
If you look at the various definitions of life, such as;

 Life is the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death., the phenomena called fire checks all the boxes. Fire can metabolize, grow and even reproduce via sparks and radiational heating. It is connected to continual change from its birth to its death; forest fire. It is lowering free energy and increasing entropy just like life. Life is type of dynamics more than it is a type of thing.

Fire is not the conventional way we look at life, since we think in terms of protein, DNA and  water, but since fire does check all the boxes for most definitions of the state called life, then one may ask can fire, such as the nuclear fire of a star, evolve its unique state of life, to states that we might called fire's version of consciousness? It will not look like we expect it to look; ego centric, but it would be able to adapt and even resolve issues as it metabolizes and changes with time. it may be more instinctive looking; animal impulse, than willful and choice based; uses the laws or instincts of physics.

With organic life, the state called life; checks all the boxes, does not appear without water. Dehydrated cells are not alive even with all the organics in place. Water is what makes life possible. If we add the water back to dehydrated cells everything works and al things now coordinates for the state called life. No other solvent can replace water; it checks all the boxes.  Does water have a type of consciousness since it was key to the "natural selection process" at the nanoscale, that led to the organic chemical states associated with life.

Life would not appear if water was not mediating; natural selection at the nanoscale, and integrating everything within the cell. If we add it all up, it appears that fire and water are both alive, but since they cancel each other, they define two divergent directions for life. Water by canceling fire helps make the life of fire more manageable; metabolism.
Title: Re: Is the Sun alive? Does It have consciousness?
Post by: Origin on 02/12/2021 18:39:35
If you look at the various definitions of life, such as;

 Life is the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death., the phenomena called fire checks all the boxes. Fire can metabolize, grow and even reproduce via sparks and radiational heating. It is connected to continual change from its birth to its death; forest fire. It is lowering free energy and increasing entropy just like life. Life is type of dynamics more than it is a type of thing.

Fire is not the conventional way we look at life, since we think in terms of protein, DNA and  water, but since fire does check all the boxes for most definitions of the state called life, then one may ask can fire, such as the nuclear fire of a star, evolve its unique state of life, to states that we might called fire's version of consciousness? It will not look like we expect it to look; ego centric, but it would be able to adapt and even resolve issues as it metabolizes and changes with time. it may be more instinctive looking; animal impulse, than willful and choice based; uses the laws or instincts of physics.

With organic life, the state called life; checks all the boxes, does not appear without water. Dehydrated cells are not alive even with all the organics in place. Water is what makes life possible. If we add the water back to dehydrated cells everything works and al things now coordinates for the state called life. No other solvent can replace water; it checks all the boxes.  Does water have a type of consciousness since it was key to the "natural selection process" at the nanoscale, that led to the organic chemical states associated with life.

Life would not appear if water was not mediating; natural selection at the nanoscale, and integrating everything within the cell. If we add it all up, it appears that fire and water are both alive, but since they cancel each other, they define two divergent directions for life. Water by canceling fire helps make the life of fire more manageable; metabolism
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