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General Discussion & Feedback => Just Chat! => Topic started by: Boxcar on 17/07/2007 14:50:36
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Hey guys, I've joined this forum because I want to discuss the topic of age gaps in relationships, as in like, what's too far an age gap and the reason why that age gap gap is too far.
I'm posting on a science forum because I guessing that alot of the users are pretty intellegent and can offer alot to the discussion because I'm feeling kind of lost at the moment.
I started worring about it the other day when a friend of mine who's twenty five kissed another friend of mine who's like 16. When he was called on it though, his argument was something like "Well if I'm old enough to hang out with her, I'm old enough to kiss her". It doesn't feel that simple to me though. I wanted to talk to him about it but I thought I should give the topic some thought first. To me it kind of feels like because of the age gap, he hs kind of a sexual high ground you know, like more intimidating than attractive and maybe he was unknowingly using that to his advantage.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? If you think I'm making a mountain out of a molehill please say so [:)]
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Well I really don't think there is a problem with this, but hey this is me a 13 year old that would like college girls. HAHA. There is like a 2 month difference between me and my girlfriend, but that ain't much of a difference. LoL. Just as long as the really like each other that's fine I guess, but if they are marring some old fart for his money when he dies. That's not right.
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Hey guys, I've joined this forum because I want to discuss the topic of age gaps in relationships, as in like, what's too far an age gap and the reason why that age gap gap is too far.
I'm posting on a science forum because I guessing that alot of the users are pretty intelligent [:0] and can offer alot to the discussion because I'm feeling kind of lost at the moment.
I started worring about it the other day when a friend of mine who's twenty five kissed another friend of mine who's like 16.
“like” 16, or actually is 16? [;)] (pedantry….)
When he was called on it though, his argument was something like "Well if I'm old enough to hang out with her, I'm old enough to kiss her". It doesn't feel that simple to me though. I wanted to talk to him about it but I thought I should give the topic some thought first. To me it kind of feels like because of the age gap, he hs kind of a sexual high ground you know, like more intimidating than attractive and maybe he was unknowingly using that to his advantage.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this? If you think I'm making a mountain out of a molehill please say so [:)]
16 to 25 is quite a gap, at that age. It’s perhaps good to look at it in percent. 16 to 25 is a 56% age gap but is only 9 years. By the time they’re, say, 50 and 59, it’s hardly a gap at all! Perhaps your friend is a very mature 16 year old? Perhaps the 25 year old friend is not so mature? Perhaps they are mature, and know exactly what they’re doing? It’s very difficult to speculate at a distance, and without knowing the individuals involved.
However, I would say that it may be a flash in the pan, with a whole load of ego attached. I’d be flattered as hell, if I was 16 and I had the attention of a 25 babe! (Sorry, I’m assuming the guy is the younger? It doesn’t actually matter anyway…..). I think this also has an input. Younger girls of 16 can see a real attraction in older guys – income, freedom, apartment etc etc, and it’s their first taste of a world without parental influence. As long as they are sensible (protection being paramount) and the guy isn’t a creep (they’re both your friends, so they must be ok!) I really don’t see a problem. It’ll pass sooner or later. I think that at this age, there is an enormous difference in actual life ambitions, and the disparity will soon become evident.
As I said earlier, this disparity reduces with age (I’m younger than my wife, my brother in law is 13 years older than his girlfriend) but as the age is somewhat older, the relative gap is neither here nor there.
Just be there for both of them when it’s over, as it surely will be……
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BTW, welcome to the forum! You're very welcome to post (pretty much) whatever you like!
And you're right, we're all devastatingly inte... inttell...intlee...clever.
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i just typed something very long and then accidentally hit delete. sigh... ok where do you live? because in the u.s. that's illegal. well... if they take it any further than kissing. secondly, a lot of young girls go through an older guy phase. i dated a twenty seven year old when i was nineteen. a girl i work with is eighteen and just started seeing a twenty five year old... the thing is, i did it to annoy my parents, and i'm pretty sure the girl at work is too.
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but i understand your concern because, although i did the same thing as the girl at work, i'm pretty worried about her right now. lol. of course i'm a little older and kind of more sensible now.
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i just typed something very long and then accidentally hit delete. sigh... ok where do you live? because in the u.s. that's illegal. well... if they take it any further than kissing. secondly, a lot of young girls go through an older guy phase. i dated a twenty seven year old when i was nineteen. a girl i work with is eighteen and just started seeing a twenty five year old... the thing is, i did it to annoy my parents, and i'm pretty sure the girl at work is too.
How annoying!
In the UK the age of sexual consent is 16.
I think you're right - there's often a phase thing.....
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Howdy and welcome Boxcar [:)]
Totally agree with you there Denty.
Age is an odd one really, and you can't help who you are attracted to.
I remember there used to be a woman here at my work that I was attracted to, and she was also attracted to me. I was 20 at that point and she was 29........age never really came into it.......well, didn't think it did [;)]
But we went out on a date and it was fine, I was mature for my age so that worked for her............although I seem to slip back and fourth between mature and immature [:D] [;)]
My housemate, who I have known since I was 6, he has a younger sister who is 19 now, but even when she was 16 she was very mature for her age. It really just depends on the person I guess.
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ah... the age is eighteen over here.
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Age is 18! Otherwise you start getting into trouble with parents who could file assult charges on the adult! You end up with a 25 year old who goes to jail child molestation or some such charge. Lands himself on the Sex offender list for the rest of his life! Not good....
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Really if they are in the states its best wait till she is of age!
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I think there is a social stigma between the ages of people in a relationship. Then ofcourse it depends on who is olders, the male or the female.
When the female is older then this semms ok, and the lad is "lucky", when the male is older he is seen as some sort of predator who should know better.
Then again girls mature faster than boys, this is a tricky subject as your own and societies prejudices come in to play.
As for the age of consent in the States, this varies from state to state. here is a quick guide: http://www.coolnurse.com/consent.htm
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It is a tricky subject! I have dealt with it with my own family! It is hard to call!
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Aw cool, thanks for replying guys.
I'm not a bit worried about the legal implications of it. I'm like talking about like if anyone thinks what he did was a bit cuddled like.
"Younger girls of 16 can see a real attraction in older guys – income, freedom, apartment etc etc, and it’s their first taste of a world without parental influence."
Do you not think though, that it's stuff like that that kind of hinders the girl's judgement. Like in that way, I'm kind of getting the feeling that he's taking advantage of her, for want of a better word, naivity, if that even is a word.
Maybe I should lay down the situation in more detail. The dude (25) is a really witty guy, like always joking and taking the piss to the point where it's way hard ot tell when he's joking or not like. When he started coming on to the girl, she thought he was taking the piss like. The other night when a load of us (whheeyyyoohh) were at a festival yoke he started like putting his arms around her and kissing her forehead and stuff and again she thought he was joking and then he like kissed her
I don't think she's at all interested in a relationship with the guy but I think he definitely is.
I'm not so much worried about the girl though, as the guys descion like. As in was he in the wrong to go for a girl that age, morally now, never mind the law
"ok where do you live?"
Dublin, Ireland but that's all I'm giving away on that.;)
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perhaps he feels that he can't get a girl his own age.
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I couldn't care less about the legal age of consent, my personal opinion is that 25 is far too old for any 16 year old - male or female. I don't think that you should date anyone more than 2 years older than you from the age of 16 - 19. Anything before 16 should stay in the same age group.
If my 16 year old daughter OR son went out with a 25 year old #h*t would hit the fan and heads would roll!!!
The older a person gets, it becomes less of an issue. I wouldn't be thrilled if my 21 y.o. dated a 30 y.o., but I'd learn to live it, maybe. [:-\]
Personally, if I weren't married, 10 years older and maybe 5 years younger would probably be my limit.
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I couldn't care less about the legal age of consent, my personal opinion is that 25 is far too old for any 16 year old - male or female. I don't think that you should date anyone more than 2 years older than you from the age of 16 - 19. Anything before 16 should stay in the same age group.
If my 16 year old daughter OR son went out with a 25 year old #h*t would hit the fan and heads would roll!!!
The older a person gets, it becomes less of an issue. I wouldn't be thrilled if my 21 y.o. dated a 30 y.o., but I'd learn to live it, maybe. [:-\]
Personally, if I weren't married, 10 years older and maybe 5 years younger would probably be my limit.
10 years is probably my limit as well
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There are a number of issues here.
As a few people have mentioned, the more significant factor factor is percentage age difference, not linear age difference.
I don't think there is much you can do about people falling in love with people of a very different age group - sometimes you just have to let people make their mistakes, and just let them know that if things go wrong (and they sometimes go right, despite breaking all the rules) that you will be there to support them. Sometimes, as hard as it may seem, the only way to work out what is right and what is wrong is to try it. If you interfere too much, they are not going to learn anything for themselves, and will not thank you for it.
Nor is it as simple as assuming the older person is taking advantage of the younger person. Maybe the older person is just as vulnerable, in their own way (maybe they are going through an emotional turmoil that makes them need to reach out to someone, and the younger person just happened to be the person there). Vulnerability is not always something that is simply inversely proportional to age.
There are no rights and wrongs, and all others can really do is to provide a parachute if your friend needs to bail out, but otherwise don't interfere (but that is true of any relationship - even if they were the same age, there is no guarantee it is the right relationship for them).
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I agree with you George..
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, my personal opinion is that 25 is far too old for any 16 year old - male or female. I don't think that you should date anyone more than 2 years older than you from the age of 16 - 19. Anything before 16 should stay in the same age group.
Is that opinion based on a gut feeling or can you back it up?
That's where I'm having trouble
Interesting post another someone. I've kind of stopped worrying about this individual situation. Like in fairness it was just a kiss. I'm still a bit worried about the guy though.
Why did Karen W edit my last post?
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I edited your post as obscenities are not allowed in the forum.. you used the "F" word and it is my Job to edit it! The system did not.. I did! in its place you will find the word cuddled!! I did not say anything because you did not seem to do it out of blatant disrespect just an error..
Since you ask I will assume you did not know or read the forum rules and I suggest you go back and do that! We are a family site and try to keep the use of vulgar language down.. I know you understand that .. so that is why!
Please carry on.. We are glad for your participation in the forum and hope you find it a helpful place to seek answers to many questions!
Karen W.
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I couldn't care less about the legal age of consent, my personal opinion is that 25 is far too old for any 16 year old - male or female. I don't think that you should date anyone more than 2 years older than you from the age of 16 - 19. anything before 16 should stay in the same age group.
If my 16 year old daughter OR son went out with a 25 year old #h*t would hit the fan and heads would roll!!!
The older a person gets, it becomes less of an issue. I wouldn't be thrilled if my 21 y.o. dated a 30 y.o., but I'd learn to live it, maybe. [:-\]
Personally, if I weren't married, 10 years older and maybe 5 years younger would probably be my limit.
I always love your posts Carolyn, I completely agree with you, but 10 years older, then you would be 10 years younger than them. Surely it should go both ways?
Oh thought I should add that in china a 6-7 year age gap both higher and lower, is considered best but thats all to do with the animals etc.
I would say that some people have got together with big age gaps and lasted, others haven't.
Hey Boxcar it was only a kiss, he probably should have known better but thats life we all make silly mistakes from time to time.
And if all the girls his age weren't off with guys in there 30´s there would be no problem, would there. [:)]
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, my personal opinion is that 25 is far too old for any 16 year old - male or female. I don't think that you should date anyone more than 2 years older than you from the age of 16 - 19. Anything before 16 should stay in the same age group.
Is that opinion based on a gut feeling or can you back it up?
That's where I'm having trouble
Interesting post another someone. I've kind of stopped worrying about this individual situation. Like in fairness it was just a kiss. I'm still a bit worried about the guy though.
Why did Karen W edit my last post?
Hi Boxcar - my opinion is based on my personal experiences and those of my childhood friends. All of the girls in my group loved the idea of dating someone older, and some of us did. The majority of us that dated much older men got into situations that none of us were mentally equipped to handle. Some of us were fortunate and didn't get hurt, others weren't so fortunate.
I also had guy friends that dated older girls, most of them got their hearts broken.
Those are the rules in our house...you date in your own age group! And Nic, before your even ask....BECAUSE I'M THE MOM AND I SAY SO!!! [;D]
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, my personal opinion is that 25 is far too old for any 16 year old - male or female. I don't think that you should date anyone more than 2 years older than you from the age of 16 - 19. Anything before 16 should stay in the same age group.
Is that opinion based on a gut feeling or can you back it up?
That's where I'm having trouble
Interesting post another someone. I've kind of stopped worrying about this individual situation. Like in fairness it was just a kiss. I'm still a bit worried about the guy though.
Why did Karen W edit my last post?
Hi Boxcar - my opinion is based on my personal experiences and those of my childhood friends. All of the girls in my group loved the idea of dating someone older, and some of us did. The majority of us that dated much older men got into situations that none of us were mentally equipped to handle. Some of us were fortunate and didn't get hurt, others weren't so fortunate.
I also had guy friends that dated older girls, most of them got their hearts broken.
Those are the rules in our house...you date in your own age group! And Nic, before your even ask....BECAUSE I'M THE MOM AND I SAY SO!!! [;D]
Problem is though hun, you're gonna get hurt with any relationship that doesn't work, that's the way of it. God knows I've had my share [;)]
Although chatting to some of my mates, they live older women, due to experience I'm afraid [;)]
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I couldn't care less about the legal age of consent, my personal opinion is that 25 is far too old for any 16 year old - male or female. I don't think that you should date anyone more than 2 years older than you from the age of 16 - 19. anything before 16 should stay in the same age group.
If my 16 year old daughter OR son went out with a 25 year old #h*t would hit the fan and heads would roll!!!
The older a person gets, it becomes less of an issue. I wouldn't be thrilled if my 21 y.o. dated a 30 y.o., but I'd learn to live it, maybe. [:-\]
Personally, if I weren't married, 10 years older and maybe 5 years younger would probably be my limit.
I always love your posts Carolyn, I completely agree with you, but 10 years older, then you would be 10 years younger than them. Surely it should go both ways?
Hi Jolly - What a nice thing to say, I've enjoyed your posts as well. Forgive me for not responding, sometimes I'm just not very talkative.
It doesn't go both ways for me. I wouldn't have a problem dating someone 10 years older and probably would consider 15 years or more, but I couldn't see myself dating someone that much younger. Truthfully 5 years younger than me is probably too much. I know it's all mental, but I would feel like their mom. Yes, if I were single I would be more inclined to date/marry someone older, but ideally we would be within a few years of each other.
I am married to a younger man.......4 months younger. [;D]
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, my personal opinion is that 25 is far too old for any 16 year old - male or female. I don't think that you should date anyone more than 2 years older than you from the age of 16 - 19. Anything before 16 should stay in the same age group.
Is that opinion based on a gut feeling or can you back it up?
That's where I'm having trouble
Interesting post another someone. I've kind of stopped worrying about this individual situation. Like in fairness it was just a kiss. I'm still a bit worried about the guy though.
Why did Karen W edit my last post?
Hi Boxcar - my opinion is based on my personal experiences and those of my childhood friends. All of the girls in my group loved the idea of dating someone older, and some of us did. The majority of us that dated much older men got into situations that none of us were mentally equipped to handle. Some of us were fortunate and didn't get hurt, others weren't so fortunate.
I also had guy friends that dated older girls, most of them got their hearts broken.
Those are the rules in our house...you date in your own age group! And Nic, before your even ask....BECAUSE I'M THE MOM AND I SAY SO!!! [;D]
Problem is though hun, you're gonna get hurt with any relationship that doesn't work, that's the way of it. God knows I've had my share [;)]
Although chatting to some of my mates, they live older women, due to experience I'm afraid [;)]
You're so right Dan. But.....someone in 20's or 30's in MY OPINION is far better equipped to handle that hurt than someone in their teens.
I'm assuming your mates are in their 20's or 30's. Yes....well I said I wouldn't want to DATE someone younger....I didn't say........oops.....forgot my son's on this site too! [;D] [;)]
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It doesn't go both ways for me. I wouldn't have a problem dating someone 10 years older and probably would consider 15 years or more, but I couldn't see myself dating someone that much younger. Truthfully 5 years younger than me is probably too much. I know it's all mental, but I would feel like their mom. Yes, if I were single I would be more inclined to date/marry someone older, but ideally we would be within a few years of each other.
Mental age is by no means the same as chronological age, and I know at least one couple where the older woman is less mature than the younger man.
Then again, there are some women (and some men) who are quite happy with a relationship which is more maternal in nature - each couple have their own emotional needs, and their own way of addressing them.
I am by no means suggesting it should be right for you, but is it right to assume that what is wrong for you would be wrong for everybody else?
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All of the girls in my group loved the idea of dating someone older, and some of us did. The majority of us that dated much older men got into situations that none of us were mentally equipped to handle. Some of us were fortunate and didn't get hurt, others weren't so fortunate.
But is this not more about your dating an idea rather than a person - you 'loved the idea of dating someone older', rather than being in love with a person who just happened to be older. I would suggest that the two are not at all the same thing.
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But.....someone in 20's or 30's in MY OPINION is far better equipped to handle that hurt than someone in their teens.
Is anybody really equipped to get hurt until it has happened - is that not part of growing up?
It is probably a difficult issue for me to talk about, as I have spent most of my life avoiding situations where I might get hurt, but my observation of others is that very often relationships where one feels one gets hurt in the end, because the end of the relationship was a disappointment, nonetheless are valuable of themselves.
Some years ago, a couple of people I know, he 16 and she 31, he just starting out in life, and she going through a painful divorce; they fell in love and got married.
Some years later, they went through a painful and acrimonious divorce themselves; but looking at who they were and what they have become; he has grown up a lot, and probably more so because of the relationship, while she survived a difficult emotional period in her life, and seems herself to be more confident in herself than she was before she met the young man. Both were hurt by their relationship, but maybe also helped by it.
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In MY humble opinion ...the age gap in itself becomes meaningless the older the two become...(I am assuming normal emotional development here too)
At that tender age of sixteen she is probably just discovering the true nature of relationships and the discovery of enlightened emotions that accompany these new intimacies. (this is not to say that relationships in themselves are easy to understand...but his ability to deal with them is probably better than hers)
At sixteen I would say she is probably not as mature enough to cope with the potential turmoil to follow than a 25 year old man.
There are of course extremely well seasoned sixteen year olds (and very imature 25 year olds !!) but I would tread carefully and advise caution......be slow to act and pace yourselves well....he must lead this at a temperate rate.
She could be very hurt by this. Presumably they are in different stages of life.....him working ?..her at school ?........(sorry..have not read the entire thread........yet)
this could be a fling which will end as quickly as it started but he must think (or try to think) like a sixteen year old girl would....at 16...she is with little life experience and he must validate that.
Then there's the respective families to think about...and each others peers !
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I have met many people who have fallen in love and are at 20 years different and are in very loving caring relationships that have stayed married and continue to be very good together despite the age difference.. two of these couples are in reverse rolls females 20 years older, but they are very much in love and wonderful together despite what others think and say.. and believe me people say lots of bad stuff that is not OK.. it is no one else's business who they love when they are both consenting adults!!
Now I also know a couple who married with that big Gap who it hasn't worked so well.. They are still married but she is younger and she is bored and feels she has missed out as he is done with certain parts of his life and she is not!
It Truly depends on the two individuals to make or break a relationship..and weather they really truly love one another enough to get past all the hurdles.
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Karen Mam is correct !
Age becomes meaningless when true luff prevails.
*le sigh*
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Thanks Neily! [:)]
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*le gets sick*
Ha sorry. Yeah, I've decided not to call him on it after all. After reading Neilep's post I figured it's better for him to just learn from his own mistakes. I'd hate to lose his friendship over embarrasing him by bring it up also.
Just so yis know, the girl has waayy forgotton it and it'll probably only come up again in
ropey jokes at parties. Sure she fancied another dude all along
Thanks alot for all the replies. They definitely helped. I hope I'll still post here and maybe make a few friend and maybe even meet them on my travels and discuss politics and music and all that stuff.
Please do continue the general discussion though because it's a hot topic for some people I think
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You are more then welcome to continue posting your question was a good question and showed you cared about both of the people involved enough to think about your action and ponder the question.. You will do well for yourself..It has been nice meeting you!
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LOL....I understand totally the *le get sick*
....just don't be a stranger eh ?.......this is not one of those staid boring full of GrUp (Grown Up) data sites !!......it's a chilled out duvet of a site where we all get undercover and talk about stuff !!
*nope...I don't know what I just said either* [;)]
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I usually post on punk forums so this hospitality is so alien to me haha
What's your game freaks!?
[:D] Only havin a lol
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Nice to have a good Laugh.. Feel free to find some nice topics to get into.. and have fun!
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I usually post on punk forums so this hospitality is so alien to me haha
What's your game freaks!?
[:D] Only havin a lol
I used to like the Sex Pistols !...Stranglers !...
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we are certainly an eclectic bunch, too! we like everybody! *big cheesy grin*
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neilep
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I'm right there...inside your head !
How do you ge that many stars? LoL.
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neilep
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Posts: 11124
I'm right there...inside your head !
How do you ge that many stars? LoL.
This is a good question !
It's worth mentioining that I was once a moderator here and I suspect that now that I am not, that my stars are not supressed...which I imagine must be the case for the mods !...Can ewe imagine how many stars Karen would have if she was not a mod ?...
..This must mean that ewe too will enjoy multiple star luff the more posts you post !!
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY !!
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OH SO I have to quit moderating to get me stars back Eh???? LOL
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what does ewe mean? and luff?
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say it out loud ryan
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you (makes since sort of when your read it) and laugh? IDK its summer lol
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love
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You did not really ask that question did you?? LOL
I LUFF EWE! LOL
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I didn't get it. LoL Sorry
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HEE HEE HEE>> That is funny! No apoligizing.. LOL
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I apoligize a lot..Sorry LoL see there i go agagin
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I apoligize a lot..Sorry LoL see there i go agagin
What are you agagin on Ryan??? LOL LOL
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I have been trained to do the Heimlich maneuver but I will have to instruct you how to fall against a chair arm or such to dislodge what you are agagin on! LOL
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Haha Karen and IDK..I'm just sorry LoL.
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Haha Karen and IDK..I'm just sorry LoL.
HAve you got the giggles? LOL
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I did, but its a new day so I don't. Yet :P
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OK well that sounds interesting! There is hope yet then!
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HAHA its very intersting!!
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What caught your funny bone yesterday?
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I got my new guitar and I was happy! I worked for it for a long time..LoL
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It gave you the giggles.. LOL I love it!
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Yes it did! Just wait until I get my upright piano!!
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OK!
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I'd be jumping off the walls. And that's sort of hard to do that when Inrnet don't have boundaries. Or does it?
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what doesn't have bounderies?
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ugh today is not my day..internet
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sorry
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what are you sorry about Karen..you didn't do anything.
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That could be you guys...
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Boxcar..who could that be?
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I couldn't care less about the legal age of consent, my personal opinion is that 25 is far too old for any 16 year old - male or female. I don't think that you should date anyone more than 2 years older than you from the age of 16 - 19. anything before 16 should stay in the same age group.
If my 16 year old daughter OR son went out with a 25 year old #h*t would hit the fan and heads would roll!!!
The older a person gets, it becomes less of an issue. I wouldn't be thrilled if my 21 y.o. dated a 30 y.o., but I'd learn to live it, maybe. [:-\]
Personally, if I weren't married, 10 years older and maybe 5 years younger would probably be my limit.
I always love your posts Carolyn, I completely agree with you, but 10 years older, then you would be 10 years younger than them. Surely it should go both ways?
Hi Jolly - What a nice thing to say, I've enjoyed your posts as well. Forgive me for not responding, sometimes I'm just not very talkative.
It doesn't go both ways for me. I wouldn't have a problem dating someone 10 years older and probably would consider 15 years or more, but I couldn't see myself dating someone that much younger. Truthfully 5 years younger than me is probably too much. I know it's all mental, but I would feel like their mom. Yes, if I were single I would be more inclined to date/marry someone older, but ideally we would be within a few years of each other.
I am married to a younger man.......4 months younger. [;D]
Thank you to, I was thinking along the lines of when your in your 30´s or older 10 years either way is ok. I think 21 year old with a 30 year old for me is just inside the line of exceptable, only just! but then I kinda feel bad saying that, I know someone reading this will be outside it and not like the comment but then as some of the others suggested if you really love each other does it matter.
but that said it is I think, generally better to be with someone around your own age, but young guys have a problem here, because most of the girls there age, are off with boys/men a lot older! Actually I have found older women far more atractive than younger ones not always, I nearly got with a girl 13 years older than me recently.
Not sure why, its a combination of experience and more interesting conversation I think(not to say I dont love spending allday talking about snoop dog [:)] that ofcourse depends on the girl)- Another-some was talking about that before I think.
Aparently, I read in the paper that young chimps also like older females! and actually thinking about it most boys in school fancy a teacher at some point as the girls do to.
Sod it, in the end if your serious and you really love each other, does it matter?